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masterpuppet
13.03.10, 14:00
Suht koht. Vallandus sellest, et sain miskise biidi ja siis enam ei suutnud mängu teha. Lihtsalt ei suutnud. Kinni ka ei pannud. :) AGa õppetunnid on magusad.

Tigrano
14.03.10, 11:34
Sellest õpib palju, vähemalt peaks õppima. Endal tulid ka sellised swingid tegelt kasuks, sest siis hakkasin rohkem uurima ja puurima oma mängu.

Peaasi, et roll ei oleks ohus.

Cypher0
17.03.10, 10:11
Valus hiiter sul täna või jaa?

masterpuppet
17.03.10, 11:02
Kergelt virutas jah. 800 käega siis +4bi. :D

masterpuppet
17.03.10, 15:34
Alates nädala algusest. Hiiterid on alati toredad ning annavad palju jõudu edasiseks jamaks.

http://www.upload.ee/image/448425/uups.png

Mõned huvitavad käed ka. Seitsmed vist tootsid.

Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 595404 (http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/595404)
The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

Hero (SB): $106.15
BB: $23.85
UTG: $90.05
UTG+1: $53.65
MP1: $89.70
MP2: $38.10
CO: $71.20
BTN: $229.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 7 :club: 7 :diamond:
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.00) 2 :club: K :heart: 7 :spade: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero checks, MP1 bets $2.50, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $7, MP1 calls $4.50

Turn: ($18.00) 8 :heart: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $13.50, MP1 calls $13.50

River: ($45.00) 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $32, MP1 calls $32

Final Pot: $109.00
Hero shows 7 :club: 7 :diamond: (four of a kind, Sevens)
MP1 mucks A :club: K :diamond:
Hero wins $106.00
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #2

Olin temaga mõnusalt madistanud ja oli ikka julmalt agro mu vastu. Ei pannud teda nii hea käe peale, aga noh, õnne peab ka vahel olema ju.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 595405 (http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/595405)
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SB: $51.50
BB: $50.70
UTG: $8.90
UTG+1: $56.35
UTG+2: $60.75
Hero (MP1): $50.00
MP2: $68.10
CO: $52.10
BTN: $105.80

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP1 with J :heart: J :diamond:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($6.25) 9 :heart: 7 :heart: 9 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BTN raises to $12, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $25, BTN calls $13

Turn: ($56.25) 8 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $22.50 all in, BTN calls $22.50

River: ($101.25) 5 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $101.25
Hero shows J :heart: J :diamond: (a flush, Jack high)
BTN shows 9 :diamond: T :diamond: (three of a kind, Nines)
Hero wins $98.25
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #3

Taaskord oli tegemist üliagro donkiga, miskine 50/30 tüüpi tegelane oli.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 595406 (http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/595406)
The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

UTG: $65.15
UTG+1: $25.00
MP1: $55.05
MP2: $39.20
CO: $58.30
Hero (BTN): $50.15
SB: $76.70
BB: $94.95

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q :diamond: K :diamond:
5 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) K :heart: T :club: 9 :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($24.50) 7 :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $15, Hero calls $15

River: ($54.50) Q :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $49.70 all in, Hero calls $23.15 all in

Final Pot: $100.80
Hero shows Q :diamond: K :diamond: (two pair, Kings and Queens)
SB shows 9 :club: T :diamond: (two pair, Tens and Nines)
Hero wins $97.80
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #4

See ilmselt ajas cypheri natukene kurjaks. :)

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 595407 (http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/595407)
The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

UTG+1: $52.25
UTG+2: $50.75
MP1: $26.25
MP2: $47.25
Hero (CO): $73.00
BTN: $52.60
SB: $19.05
BB: $55.75
UTG: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 7 :diamond: 7 :spade:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($5.75) 7 :club: 7 :heart: 5 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $4.60, Hero calls $4.60, SB folds

Turn: ($14.95) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($34.95) 2 :club: (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $15, UTG+1 calls $15

Final Pot: $64.95
UTG+1 mucks Q :diamond: Q :spade:
Hero shows 7 :diamond: 7 :spade: (four of a kind, Sevens)
Hero wins $61.95
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #5

Agrotas nii, et väha polnud. Korduvalt minu vastu. Panin ta Ax peale ja lets flip.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - View hand 595408 (http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/595408)
The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

SB: $55.20
BB: $27.35
UTG: $96.40
UTG+1: $57.55
Hero (MP): $162.70
CO: $50.00
BTN: $87.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with 7 :club: 7 :heart:
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO raises to $5.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, CO raises to $50 all in, Hero calls $37.50

Flop: ($100.75) T :spade: 5 :spade: 5 :diamond:

Turn: ($100.75) 6 :diamond:

River: ($100.75) 7 :diamond:

Final Pot: $100.75
Hero shows 7 :club: 7 :heart: (a full house, Sevens full of Fives)
CO shows A :heart: J :diamond: (a pair of Fives)
Hero wins $97.75
(Rake: $3.00)

View all 5 hands (http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/595404-595408)

Hetkel vaadates käsi, jäi palju valuet võtmata paljudes kohtades nutsudega. Peab seda parandama veel ja viimast hakkama pigistama. Hiiterid ju kaua ei kesta.

Cypher0
17.03.10, 16:26
Hand #4

See ilmselt ajas cypheri natukene kurjaks. :)

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 595407 (http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/595407)
The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

UTG+1: $52.25
UTG+2: $50.75
MP1: $26.25
MP2: $47.25
Hero (CO): $73.00
BTN: $52.60
SB: $19.05
BB: $55.75
UTG: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 7 :diamond: 7 :spade:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($5.75) 7 :club: 7 :heart: 5 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $4.60, Hero calls $4.60, SB folds

Turn: ($14.95) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($34.95) 2 :club: (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $15, UTG+1 calls $15

Final Pot: $64.95
UTG+1 mucks Q :diamond: Q :spade:
Hero shows 7 :diamond: 7 :spade: (four of a kind, Sevens)
Hero wins $61.95
(Rake: $3.00)



See veel ei ajand kurjaks, aga karp jäi lahti küll siukse runni peale, sul oli mu HEMis mingi 300 käe peale 123 bb/100.:D Mingid full hausid ja nelikud iga teine käsi.:) Kurjaks ajas mind see swing, mis pärast seda kätt hakkas.:mad:

masterpuppet
20.03.10, 10:45
Hiiter jätkub. See nädal siis 4,5K kätt. +16BI ning 36bb/100 käele.

"Suurim pot" ka siis elus. Ei mäleta, kas NL100 shotides sain suuremaid. Aga NL50 kindlasti.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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CO: $12.25
BTN: $79.50
SB: $12.25
Hero (BB): $89.50
UTG: $50.00
UTG+1: $73.40
MP1: $20.55
MP2: $35.15

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 2 :spade: 2 :club:
5 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.00) 6 :spade: 2 :heart: 3 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $2, SB folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $4

Turn: ($15.00) K :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $11, BTN calls $11

River: ($37.00) A :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $28, BTN raises to $56, Hero raises to $71.50 all in, BTN calls $5.50 all in

Final Pot: $160.00
BTN mucks Q :diamond: 6 :heart:
Hero shows 2 :spade: 2 :club: (three of a kind, Twos)
Hero wins $157.00
(Rake: $3.00)

leits
20.03.10, 10:49
oled tubli :=)

masterpuppet
20.03.10, 11:08
Suur au.

masterpuppet
20.03.10, 11:35
Üks vahva käsi veel.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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BTN: $20.20
SB: $63.85
Hero (BB): $50.65
CO: $34.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 5 :heart: A :heart:
2 folds, SB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.00) 9 :heart: 8 :heart: A :diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $15, SB calls $10

Turn: ($32.00) 7 :diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $47.85 all in, Hero calls $34.65 all in

River: ($101.30) 7 :spade: (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $101.30
SB shows Q :club: K :spade: (a pair of Sevens)
Hero shows 5 :heart: A :heart: (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
Hero wins $99.30
(Rake: $2.00)

Supsti
20.03.10, 11:41
Balls of steel?:smile:

masterpuppet
20.03.10, 11:47
Pigem oli vastane the true fish. Ja ei ole veel kohanud sellist line fishi poolt value võtmisena. + veel equityt jagus.

Pahvak
20.03.10, 12:27
Ilus käsi mu arust. :)

Jennifer
20.03.10, 13:37
Nice read :D

masterpuppet
29.03.10, 22:25
Polnudki sellist asja veel HEM'ist välja trükkinud. Seal siis Full Tilti ja Starsi käed alates suve algusest. Sinna siis liita hulka turniirid, rakeback ja muudest tubadest saadud kasu, siis äkki kisub ksuagil 7-8k$ kanti. Olen rahul. Aga läheb paremaks. Kokku võttis see värk 599 tundi. :)

http://www.upload.ee/image/496866/marg_uneneagu.png

Owner85
29.03.10, 22:38
esimesed 100K olid kooliraha ja siis läks andmiseks or what?:D

vapsik
29.03.10, 22:39
Heater tuli külla obv.

masterpuppet
29.03.10, 22:41
Esimesed 100k mängisin nl10, siis sai siiber ja läksin Nl25. Edasine on ajalugu.

pikk28
30.03.10, 08:57
suht nice! pmst vahepeal siis 1k swong?

masterpuppet
30.03.10, 11:37
Ei olnud tegemist swongida. Tegin lihtsalt shoti NL100, mis välja ei tulnud ning sealt tuli ka kergelt rabe mäng NL50.

Või sa mõtlesid upsowngi? :D

masterpuppet
05.04.10, 09:23
http://www.upload.ee/image/508380/life_tilt.png

Natukene swingine. Räme tilt, ban4life. Faking rigged urkad. KÕik. Võtaks 4h bani ja lahkun siit urkast igavesti.

-andres-
05.04.10, 12:15
Lol, enne seda jooksid nagu noor jumal ju miski paar nädalat.

masterpuppet
05.04.10, 12:56
Lol, enne seda jooksid nagu noor jumal ju miski paar nädalat.

Pean sind veel väheke õpetama. Musi. :)

Iroonia noh!

-andres-
05.04.10, 12:57
Pean sind veel väheke õpetama. Musi. :)

Iroonia noh!

Suu suitsiidi teksi ma ei vaadanudki, ütlesin selle kohta, et oma EV joont publikule tilbendama riputad.

masterpuppet
05.04.10, 13:44
Kuri.

masterpuppet
15.04.10, 08:41
Mhh. Sai Nl50 tõsiselt siiber ning ka väikse tildipisiku ravimiseks otsustasin minna NL100, kuigi ettepandud 40BI ei olnud päris olemas veel. Tildi pärast läksin kõrgemale, sest mitte ei tildanud raha maha, vaid ei teinud lihtsalt enam A mängu. Kõrgem limiit paneks pingutama, mida ta põmst hetkel ka teinud on. Natuke annaks veel mängu üle norida, kuid olen kasumis ja hetkel ei kurda. Scaremoney natukene veel sees, kuid ehk peale 10k kätt juba harjunud. Käsi muidugi praegu übervähe ning eks peale 10k näeb, kas suudan NL100 püsima jääda. Ei viitsiks enam alla küll minna.

http://www.upload.ee/image/525001/NL100.png

Mõned huvitavad käed ka:

#1. Suurim pot elus.

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The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

BTN: $98.50
SB: $100.00
BB: $100.00
UTG: $83.70
Hero (UTG+1): $100.00
MP1: $55.00
MP2: $100.00
CO: $201.15

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with A :spade: A :club:
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, MP1 raises to $17.50, 5 folds, UTG raises to $83.70 all in, Hero calls $78.70, MP1 calls $37.50 all in

Flop: ($223.90) J :club: 8 :spade: 8 :diamond:

Turn: ($223.90) Q :spade:

River: ($223.90) 5 :diamond:

Final Pot: $223.90
UTG shows K :club: T :heart: (a pair of Eights)
Hero shows A :spade: A :club: (two pair, Aces and Eights)
MP1 shows K :spade: K :diamond: (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Hero wins $57.40
Hero wins $163.50
(Rake: $3.00)

#2. Ise slowsid rsk.

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The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

Hero (UTG): $100.00
UTG+1: $80.40
UTG+2: $48.00
MP1: $100.15
MP2: $132.30
CO: $103.25
BTN: $100.00
SB: $89.15
BB: $108.45

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with J :diamond: J :heart:
Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP2 calls $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($13.50) K :heart: 7 :spade: 4 :diamond: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $6, CO calls $6, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $17, MP2 folds, CO requests TIME, CO calls $11

Turn: ($53.50) 8 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($53.50) J :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $34, Hero raises to $79 all in, CO requests TIME, CO calls $45

Final Pot: $211.50
Hero shows J :diamond: J :heart: (three of a kind, Jacks)
CO mucks 7 :diamond: 7 :club:
Hero wins $208.50
(Rake: $3.00)


#3. 3beti call out of poition tüübi vastu, kes ülimalt kaitses oma BB on surm?

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The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

Hero (SB): $122.35
BB: $100.00
UTG: $101.50
UTG+1: $33.80
MP1: $100.00
MP2: $100.00
CO: $133.90
BTN: $205.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with T :diamond: Q :diamond:
6 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BB raises to $7.50, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15.00) T :club: 4 :club: 5 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($35.00) 9 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $19, BB requests TIME, BB calls $19

River: ($73.00) A :club: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $35, BB raises to $63.50 all in, Hero calls $28.50

Final Pot: $200.00
Hero shows T :diamond: Q :diamond: (a pair of Tens)
BB shows 7 :club: 7 :diamond: (a pair of Sevens)
Hero wins $197.00
(Rake: $3.00)

#4. Vahel kõhutunne ka

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

BTN: $134.05
SB: $50.70
BB: $27.50
UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $100.00
UTG+2: $100.00
Hero (MP1): $104.10
MP2: $121.90
CO: $87.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP1 with 9 :heart: 9 :club:
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.00) 7 :diamond: 7 :heart: 3 :heart: (2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $18, SB calls $9

Turn: ($45.00) Q :heart: (2 players)
SB bets $28.70 all in, Hero calls $28.70

River: ($102.40) 8 :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $102.40
SB shows 6 :diamond: A :heart: (a pair of Sevens)
Hero shows 9 :heart: 9 :club: (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
Hero wins $99.40
(Rake: $3.00)

#5. Liiga ülbeks ei kannata ka minna.


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The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

Hero (BB): $100.00
UTG: $99.20
UTG+1: $98.55
UTG+2: $83.20
MP1: $89.60
MP2: $89.50
CO: $143.70
BTN: $100.00
SB: $103.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with J :diamond: J :heart:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, 4 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $3, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($12.00) T :heart: 2 :club: 9 :heart: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+2 calls $7, SB folds

Turn: ($26.00) 3 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG+2 calls $15

River: ($56.00) 4 :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $25, UTG+2 calls $25

Final Pot: $106.00
Hero shows J :diamond: J :heart: (a pair of Jacks)
UTG+2 shows T :diamond: T :spade: (three of a kind, Tens)
UTG+2 wins $103.00
(Rake: $3.00)

masterpuppet
15.04.10, 08:45
Ja andke 3 käe kohta tagasisidet, endale tundub hetkel, et jubedamalt vist andnudki seda kätt mängida, kui mina seda tegin. River pigem check, et bluff esile kutsuda? Enam sealt vist A ei repi.

Ja kuidas üldse mängida SB-lt mehe vastu, kes BB pealt 100% 3bet, kui teda varastati ja tegi muud sada imevigurit?

vapsik
15.04.10, 13:54
Ma ise küll alles NL-25 mängija, aga OOP 3bettide callimine pole just väga hea mõte IMO. Fold nupp on ka tore asi ja 4bettida võib ju ka.

leits
15.04.10, 14:57
3 käsi kyll spew imo

masterpuppet
15.04.10, 17:51
Ma ise küll alles NL-25 mängija, aga OOP 3bettide callimine pole just väga hea mõte IMO. Fold nupp on ka tore asi ja 4bettida võib ju ka.

4bettida ei saanud, sest see villian oleks rahulikult ATC nuppe pannud. Ilmslet iizim oleks olnud foldida ja kaarti oodata. Aga seekord jobistasin mõnuga. Spewy obv.

masterpuppet
16.04.10, 14:14
J anii palju sellest NL100 hetkel. Obv oli vaja peale serveri resa laudu näppima minna. Uhh. Tahaks juba stabiilset runi.
http://www.upload.ee/image/526685/d.png

leits
16.04.10, 14:15
sitad lauad imo veel .... :D

Rage
16.04.10, 15:36
täpselt selline graafik nagu minu esimene NL100 shot.. kolinal 10BI alla ja tagasi NL50sse.. nüüd väga vaikselt ja rahulikult cruisin tagasi NL100 BRi poole..

masterpuppet
20.04.10, 10:38
NL100 shot jäi siis taas nukraks. Sai natukene halvemast jooksust ka mäng kaotatud ning taas ei tulnud miskit välja. Ehk järgmine kuu peale kevadpäevi uuesti. :)

http://www.upload.ee/image/532336/NL100.png


Ja siis nüüd hommikul taas väike sess NL50. FUCK YOU POKERGOD. :biggrin:

http://www.upload.ee/image/532337/NL50.png

andu_andu
20.04.10, 10:40
sa lifetime graphi viitsid panna enda oma plz ? Või siis saada andresele msnis vms .

edit: paar lehte tagasi olemas siinsamas. :D

Owner85
20.04.10, 12:33
Btw nägin sind eile herne poe juures mingi seltskonnaga sõitsin mööda sinust:)

masterpuppet
20.04.10, 21:02
Plaanisime seal botaanikaaia müüre ületada. :) Aga otsustasime ikka Zavoodi minna.

Owner85
21.04.10, 12:55
Plaanisime seal botaanikaaia müüre ületada. :) Aga otsustasime ikka Zavoodi minna.

IRW:biggrin:

masterpuppet
02.06.10, 23:21
Aitab jamas. Põhjus, miks nii ammu pole kirjutanud on ilsmelt see, et ei olnud enam hiitereid ette näidata. :D

Igatahes tegin juuniks otsus - kui mängin, siis max 8 lauda ning tile formaadis. Bumhuntin ning ei ürita regularidega mu**i mõõta. Ning kui järgmise kuu kasum on 1200$ (rakeback ei loe), siis ostan preemiaks korraliku jalgratta.

Eks üritan nüüd asja nagukene korralikumalt ka kajastada. Ja käsi postitada, mida pole väga ammu teinud.

andu_andu
02.06.10, 23:29
edu! Üks väheseid päevikuid, millel silma peal hoian.

masterpuppet
03.06.10, 01:30
Andu(de) rõõmuks siis ka esimsese kahe päeva graafik ning mõned huvitavad käed.

http://www.upload.ee/image/613610/juuni.png


Olin flopi foldimisele väga lähedal. Aga noh, vahel peab mulle ka tulema.

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The Official DeucesCracked.com (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_dc) Hand History Converter (http://www.thehandconverter.com)

BB: $43.30
UTG: $21.60
UTG+1: $10.85
MP1: $66.60
MP2: $56.25
Hero (CO): $50.00
BTN: $50.25
SB: $61.60

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with A :spade: A :heart:
4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $3.50, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $9, BB calls $5.50

Flop: ($18.25) J :club: K :diamond: 5 :club: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $13, BB raises to $34.30 all in, Hero calls $21.30

Turn: ($86.85) Q :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($86.85) A :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $86.85
BB shows K :club: K :heart: (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero shows A :spade: A :heart: (three of a kind, Aces)
Hero wins $83.85
(Rake: $3.00)

Väga huvitav mäng BE regulari poolt. Olin teda mitu korda järjest peedistanud just floatimisega. Oli special flopi betsize read ka, kuid nägi mind vist läbi. :cool:

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UTG: $27.10
MP: $63.00
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $69.75
SB: $63.85
BB: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 3 :club: 2 :club:
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 6 :spade: 9 :heart: 3 :diamond: (2 players)
CO bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.75) 5 :spade: (2 players)
CO bets $5, Hero raises to $12.50, CO calls $7.50

River: ($33.75) 6 :club: (2 players)
CO checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero checks

Final Pot: $33.75
CO mucks A :diamond: 4 :diamond:
Hero shows 3 :club: 2 :club: (two pair, Sixes and Threes)
Hero wins $32.10
(Rake: $1.65)


Huvitav käsi ühe parima regulari vastu NL50. Ilmselt olen tema silmis üsnagi weak ning annan tihti 2/3 tänaval alla. Seega ideaalis peaks riveri panus olema üsna strong+ vist olen mul ta kohta betsizingu riid.

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Hero (SB): $52.40
BB: $17.50
BTN: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with T :diamond: A :heart:
BTN raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $3

Flop: ($9.50) 6 :spade: 5 :heart: 6 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($9.50) T :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, BTN raises to $11, Hero calls $6.50

River: ($31.50) K :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $18.50, BTN folds

Final Pot: $31.50
Hero wins $30.50
(Rake: $1.00)

Ja jälle sama hea regulari vastu. Teeb mulle jälle huvitavalt väikse re-raise, kuid vastuhakkamine oleks olnud vist liiga spewyne ning mune ka polnud.

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UTG: $29.50
UTG+1: $16.00
MP1: $50.00
MP2: $47.70
CO: $48.25
BTN: $102.35
SB: $25.15
Hero (BB): $53.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K :club: J :heart:
5 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.25) 7 :club: 4 :spade: A :diamond: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $6, BTN raises to $12, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Final Pot: $22.25
BTN wins $21.15
(Rake: $1.10)

Kotkas1000
03.06.10, 07:02
Tohib küsida, kes see parim NL50 reg on?

pastilaa
03.06.10, 08:05
Tohib küsida, kes see parim NL50 reg on?

Full Tildis peaks Leits olema.

masterpuppet
03.06.10, 10:47
Mina loovamat mängijat hetkel NL50 näinud pole. Kindlasti on paremat winrate näitavad ka, kuid temaga satun alati mängima.

http://www.pokertableratings.com/fulltilt-player-search/lluckyqueen

low-flow
03.06.10, 13:53
Mul vähe käsi tema kohta, aga on igatahes mega agromaaniks märgitud. :P

Aga ma ma pakuks välja parimaks NL50 regiks GreatDanePoker
http://www.pokertableratings.com/fulltilt-player-search/greatdanepoker
Alati kui selle venna vastu mängin, on selline tunne, et ta teab mu kaarte. Kogu lauast sõidab konstantselt oma agro stiiliga üle. Bluffid kõik bluffib üle ja kui on käsi, siis kunagi välja ei maksa, isegi kui sama liini mängin, mida tegin bluffides. Totaalselt väldin teda, vb siis istuks samasse lauda, kui vasakule käele saaks gigavaala ja tema istub risti vastas pool lauda.

masterpuppet
03.06.10, 18:07
Mis kella ajal sa tavaliselt mängid? Ma pole teda veel omaarust kohanud.

Edit. 26 kätt ainult.

low-flow
03.06.10, 18:41
Harvem mängin päeval kella 13 ja 17 vahel kui märkan häid laudu ja mingi muu mõttetusega tegeleda ei viitsi. Aga iga õhtu põmst pärast kell 21 mängin tunnike-kaks kindlasti. Olen teda näinud pigem õhtustel aegadel, ta on USA-st.

masterpuppet
04.06.10, 23:32
Rattast 1/4 kaugusel. :D Hiiter või möh?

http://www.upload.ee/image/617269/pask.png

Igatahes täna sai koolis yks eksam tehtud ning peale seda terve päev raamatukogus järgmiseks õpitud ning õhtul oli vaja nyyd veel yks sess teha. Esimesed 100 kätt oli pea värske ning raha tuli ära. Ülejäänud 700 kätt piinlesin ja kinkisin raha ära, et ikka Ironday saaks tehtud. Piinapingi on see FTP v2lja mõelnud oma Ironmaniga.

-andres-
04.06.10, 23:53
Esimesed 100 kätt tuli kaarte ja ülejäänud 700 kätt pidi mõtlema?

masterpuppet
05.06.10, 11:33
Ei, siis võtsin kyll fishidelt raha, kuid andsid regidele kohe ära.

Owner85
05.06.10, 16:00
mis kellaajad ja päevad tildis kuldsed on,esmaspäev kolin ka sinna !

masterpuppet
05.06.10, 22:18
mis kellaajad ja päevad tildis kuldsed on,esmaspäev kolin ka sinna !

Vastasin Ownerile kyll MSN, kuid yldsuse huvides kordan yle.

Mina arvan, et parim aeg mängimiseks on hommikul ca 5-10. Siis on enamasti igas lauas vähemalt 2 fishi ning kui mõni regular veel on viitsinud lauda jääda, siis on ta enamasti "väsinud" ning pinget eriti ei paku.

Samas meeldib mulle ka päeviti mängida, sest siis pole yldse regulare, kuid on terve hunnik nn "halli massi" ning korraliku tableselectiga leiab ka maakera kuklapoolel elavad fishid yles.

Kuid yldiselt korraliku tableselectida leiab iga kell vähemalt 6 head lauda.

See siis kõik NL50 ja FTP kogemuse põhjal.

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Tänane sess oli jälle uimane nyhkimine. Eksamisessi ajal ikka suht raske aega leida, aga punktid nõuavad nyhkimist. Järgnev käsi päästis kasumi osas päeva. Kõik olid totaalsed fishid ja peale seda laud lagunes. :D

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UTG+1: $50.00
MP: $29.55
CO: $45.35
BTN: $47.45
SB: $27.20
BB: $47.55
Hero (UTG): $51.55

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with K :club: A :club:
Hero raises to $1.50, UTG+1 calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

Flop: ($7.50) 8 :club: 9 :diamond: 7 :club: (5 players)
SB bets $3, BB calls $3, Hero raises to $10.50, UTG+1 folds, MP calls $10.50, SB calls $7.50, BB raises to $46.05 all in, Hero raises to $50.05 all in, MP calls $17.55 all in, SB calls $15.20 all in

Turn: ($153.35) K :heart: (4 players - 4 are all in)

River: ($153.35) 4 :heart: (4 players - 4 are all in)

Final Pot: $153.35
MP shows J :club: 4 :club: (a pair of Fours)
SB shows A :spade: T :club: (Ace King high)
BB shows Q :club: 9 :club: (a pair of Nines)
Hero shows K :club: A :club: (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins $36.00
Hero wins $7.05
Hero wins $107.30
(Rake: $3.00)

g00000se
05.06.10, 22:29
Korralik laks :D

raunsz
05.06.10, 23:46
IRW täiesti! :) NH

leits
06.06.10, 00:09
12-4 on v2ga tummised lauad
e: viimane antud k2si v2hegi mõtlevate vastu on imho tegelt yliclose ja pigem -ev kui korraliku readi pole . antud flopis kui sust yle AI lykatakse jea head riidi ple, oleme suht kaugel, isegi oma fulsh drawst

masterpuppet
06.06.10, 09:38
Tean, et close. Kuid pot oli juba nii suur, et ma ei näinud seal eriti võimalust foldida. gigafishid olid ikkagi.

masterpuppet
06.06.10, 11:26
Laupäeva väevane aeg on nuts mängimiseks. Regulare pole ning kohtab igasuguseid.

Miss-limpisin ja laud läks iga tänavaga paremaks. Soluread, et tal on K ja ta callib mind.

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BB: $64.20
Hero (UTG): $50.00
UTG+1: $37.50
MP1: $62.75
MP2: $29.85
CO: $13.30
BTN: $135.00
SB: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 5 :club: 5 :spade:
Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($3.00) Q :spade: K :club: 5 :heart: (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG+1 calls $2.50, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, SB folds, BB folds

Turn: ($8.00) 5 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $5.50, UTG+1 calls $5.50

River: ($19.00) K :diamond: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $41.50 all in, UTG+1 calls $29 all in

Final Pot: $77.00
Hero shows 5 :club: 5 :spade: (four of a kind, Fives)
UTG+1 mucks K :heart: J :heart:
Hero wins $74.00
(Rake: $3.00)

masterpuppet
06.06.10, 11:34
Krt, pühapäev on ju hoopis. Aga anyway, vahet ei ole.

ROTT RUUDI
06.06.10, 16:41
Haha, ma kujutan ette kui pettunud ta showdownil oli :)
Aga jah nädalavahetus lendab nii käbe, et ei saa arugi kui uus nädal juba alanud.

masterpuppet
16.06.10, 07:52
Pretty sick month, eh hombre!

http://www.upload.ee/image/638256/eh__hombre.png

Olen proovinud eksamite kõrvalt iga päev ikka ironday ära teha. 16,5bb/100

Tigrano
16.06.10, 08:08
Paistab, et õppimine grindi ei sega :)

andu_andu
16.06.10, 11:55
Tüüpiline, et kui vähe aega on mängida, siis mängitakse väga head mängu. Endal ka niimoodi tihti.

masterpuppet
19.12.12, 07:30
Ahoi!

Degen gonna degen forever ehk pokkerist lahti ei saa.

Nõnna, alustan uuesti vaikselt päevikuga, et ajaloolised hetked saaksid ajalooannaaalidesse. Mis siis vahepeal toimunud on. 2011-2012 oli suhteliselt robotlikud slightly winning aastad ning seetõttu viskas 2012. a suvel siiralt üle ning quittisin omaarust 4ever, roll välja ning bustorisse.

Kuid 1. novembril saabus imeline päev, kus Full Tilt avanes ning sain sealt starsi 700 FPP. Muidu tuleb veel siinkohal märkida, et kunagi kolisin 2 nädalat enne Black Fridayd Starsi oma NL100 rolliga. Seega võite mind ka selgeltnägijaks kutsuda.

Aga igatahes, tekkis sügaval sees degenihääl, kes hakkas röökima, et teeme sellest 700 FPP palju-palju cashi. Ja nii see jälle hakkas. Tegin esmalt 70 FPP Sunday Stormi satikaid 10 man turbo satikaid, kus esimene härra sai ainult pileti. Nendega sai kokku aetud 22T$. Mille omakorda muutsin 0,50$ 45 mannidega ligikaudu 36$. Ja NL2 uks jalaga maha. Alguses üritasin veel 6maxiga lõbutseda, kuid FR on ikka südamelähedane.

Hetkel põmst 2 kuud möödas ning paugutan NL16 uksi. BR management on suht crazy ning proovin enam vähem koheselt järgmise limiidi uksi paugutada, kui enam vähem 15BI on olemas. Kõige raskem oli NL2 to NL5 üleminek. :D

Aga vaikselt hakkab tunnetus tagasi tulema ja loodetavasti olen uuks aastaks NL25, et saaks ikka uue aasta reload boonusega kohe paugutama hakkata. Nii, et Stars, olgu boonus olla.

Graafikuke ka. Joonekesi ei hakka panema, rikuvad ainult ilusat pilti. :D Aga õigele prole kohaselt jooksen üle EV.

http://www.upload.ee/image/2916626/algus.png

Statsid kah:

http://www.upload.ee/image/2916630/statsid.png

FreakyJason
19.12.12, 08:38
Tore tore GL! ;)

pastilaa
19.12.12, 12:26
issand kui ägedad olete! edu!

vapsik
19.12.12, 15:17
GLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Mr_Kenny
19.12.12, 15:22
Gee-ell!!

masterpuppet
20.12.12, 07:03
Kuna töö tõttu mängin suht ainult hommikul kella 6-9 vahel, siis on kiire edasiareng suht raskendatud, kuna hommikuti on ikka kole vähe NL16 laudu. Aga neid on vist koguaeg vähe. Vähemalt vanasti oli. Samuti on jube keeruline esimese hommikukohvi laksu pealt teha koguaeg ratsionaalset mängu. 8=)

Hommiku käsi kah:

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Hero (BB): $10.43
BTN: $5.82
SB: $9.66

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 6:diamond: 3:heart:
1 fold, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.20) 7:club: 4:diamond: 6:club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.20) 6:spade: (2 players)
SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.15

River: ($0.70) 3:diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $0.60, Hero raises to $10.08 all in, SB calls $8.71 all in

Final Pot: $19.32
Hero shows 6:diamond: 3:heart: (a full house, Sixes full of Threes)
SB shows 4:heart: 5:diamond: (a straight, Three to Seven)
Hero wins $18.45
(Rake: $0.87)

Majandaja
20.12.12, 10:02
NL16 laud hakkab märgatavalt lisanduma umbes 14-st ja see suureneb pidevalt. Hommikul on laudade valik tõesti väga nigel.

masterpuppet
21.12.12, 07:10
Imeliku korrelatsiooni avastasin täna. Kui teed väga halba mängu, siis jooksed julmalt üle EV. Aga nii, kui võtad ennnast kokku ning hakkad inimliku B+ mängu tegema, hakkad alla EV jooksma. Stars ON rigged. 8=)

Sample on muidugi pisuke, kuid see ei väära minu teadusliku hüpoteesi! :redface:

PS! Kõigile teistele teadusetegijatele võin oma algandmeid ja esimesi analüüse jagada! Koos murrame selle starsi RNG saladuse!

http://www.upload.ee/image/2921351/statsid.pngtrange.png

pikk28
22.12.12, 17:33
gogo, mastaplasta!

inward
22.12.12, 19:13
Tööpäevad standard 8h pikkused ? Härral on korralik tahtejõud, kui ennast enne tööd kell 6 üles ajab, et pokkerit mängida. Edu.

masterpuppet
27.12.12, 18:30
Tööpäevad on 8h, kuid ainult kolmapäevani. Seega nädala teisel poolel saab natukene kergemalt võtta. Kuid nagunii viimasel ajal unegraafik muutunud ning vara voodisse, vara ülesse.

Jõulude ajal viisakalt puhanud ning mänginud pole üldse. Seega vana aasta lõpuga NL25 veel ei jõua.

masterpuppet
30.12.12, 11:30
Võib aasta/kuu kokku võtta, sest rohkem nagunii ei mängi. Loodame, et uus aasta tuleb motivatsioonipuhanguga. Ainukene takistus hetkel pokkerimängimisel oleks full-time job, aga see on ka alles silmapiiril.

See aasta oli üks tilting madness, kus sai igasuguseid mänge, limiite ja tube katsetatud. Lõpuks tuleb aga ikka oma liistude juurde tagasi minna. :heart: FR@PS

Aga õige pro jookseb ikka üle EV ehk detsembrikuu. Kokku müstilised 65h, 26k kätt ning 10bb/100. Võib rahule jääda. Nüüd saab ainult üles liikuda.

http://www.upload.ee/image/2943606/detsember.png

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Aga aasta graafik ei olegi väga hull. Kartsin, et hullem, plussis ikkagi. Aga naljakas ikka. Graafik BB-des on lausa biitiv. Aga 2013 tuleb ikka parem. Kokku lausa isegi 6bb/100 üle 150k käe. Seega oleks pidanud lihtsalt rohkem mängima. :)

$

http://www.upload.ee/image/2943605/2012.png

Big Blindides

http://www.upload.ee/image/2943620/2012bb.png

:heart:

Owner85
30.12.12, 14:17
Kena,biitisid vanasti kenasti ja nüüd lased samamoodi edasi!!!

masterpuppet
01.01.13, 20:05
Nahkur, see agro-BR on ikka halva mängu korral suht frustreeriv. Peale lühikest -3BI sessi tuleb saba jalgevahel uuesti NL10 näppima minna. :/

Üks imelik käsi 32/2 fishi vastu. PF ei oskagi midagi kosta. Jube keeruline selliste passiivsete fishide vastu mängida. Lootsin KK kerget valuet saada ning pot väiksena hoida. Juhtus aga teisiti.

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MP1: $18.93
MP2: $6.24
CO: $16.32
Hero (BTN): $19.75
SB: $16.00
BB: $19.80
UTG: $16.00
UTG+1: $9.02
UTG+2: $2.67

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is BTN with A:diamond: K:spade:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.16, MP1 raises to $0.80, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.80, 2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $2.67 all in, MP1 calls $1.87, Hero calls $1.87

Flop: ($8.25) A:club: Q:club: 7:spade: (3 players - 1 is all in)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $2, MP1 calls $2

Turn: ($12.25) J:spade: (3 players - 1 is all in)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $3, MP1 calls $3

River: ($18.25) 8:heart: (3 players - 1 is all in)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $18.25
MP1 shows 8d As (two pair, Aces and Eights)
Hero mucks Ad Ks
UTG+2 mucks Tc Ah
MP1 wins $9.55
MP1 wins $7.88
(Rake: $0.82)

Owner85
01.01.13, 21:55
prf uhaks sisse juba

masterpuppet
04.01.13, 06:59
Nah, kus üldse ei suuda taluda neid swonge. Mindset kohe nässus ning peksan nuppe ja sajatan. Peaks vist natukene puhkama. Enam nii libedalt ei lähe. Peaks üle 2 a vist esimest korda mõne õppevideo vms ka vaatama ja värskeid mõtteid koguma.

Päeva käsi ka. Laua esimene käsi. Hea riid oli see, et tegemist kanaadalasega. :D

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BTN/SB: $8.00
Hero (BB): $13.97

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K:heart: K:diamond:
BTN/SB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN/SB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.80) 3:diamond: 2:spade: 5:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, BTN/SB raises to $7.60 all in, Hero calls $7.05

Turn: ($16.00) 9:club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($16.00) T:spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $16.00
BTN/SB shows Q:diamond: 5:spade: (a pair of Fives)
Hero shows K:heart: K:diamond: (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins $15.50
(Rake: $0.50)

:heart:

Ints
04.01.13, 12:41
millist brm kasutad praegu?

masterpuppet
06.01.13, 18:13
Hetkel lasin juba 15BI järgmisesse limiiti. Aga hetkel otsustasin natukene rahulikumalt võtta ning NL10 väikse põhja alla teha. Ei ole nii väga kiirest kusagile. Samuti teeb hetkel tilt viperusi ning mängin keskmiselt halvemini. Peaks midagi tarka välja mõtlema. Halvale mängijale omaselt jooksen ka alla EV, kuid seda vähe. Kuu on ka miinuses, veel.

#1 Nõrgim käsi võidab alati:

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Hero (CO): $10.10
BTN: $7.25
SB: $6.37
BB: $4.30
UTG: $10.47
MP: $10.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with K:heart: A:spade:
UTG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.30 all in, UTG calls $4.10, Hero raises to $10.10 all in, UTG calls $5.80

Flop: ($24.55) J:heart: 4:club: 2:spade: (3 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($24.55) 9:spade: (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($24.55) 4:heart: (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $24.55
Hero shows K:heart: A:spade: (a pair of Fours)
BB shows K:spade: Q:diamond: (a pair of Fours)
UTG shows J:spade: A:diamond: (two pair, Jacks and Fours)
UTG wins $11.08
UTG wins $12.37
(Rake: $1.10)


#2 Ultimate tilt tuli pealse seda kätt peale. Pean ennast ravima hakkama.

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Hero (BTN/SB): $15.01
BB: $5.69

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN/SB with Q:diamond: Q:heart:
Hero raises to $0.25, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.50) 2:club: 9:club: 4:heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BB raises to $1.60, Hero calls $1.25

Turn: ($3.70) K:heart: (2 players)
BB bets $3.84 all in, Hero calls $3.84

River: ($11.38) 9:heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $11.38
Hero shows Q:diamond: Q:heart: (two pair, Queens and Nines)
BB shows 9:spade: 8:diamond: (three of a kind, Nines)
BB wins $10.88
(Rake: $0.50)

3# Uskumatult huvitav käsi sellise halva regulari poolt.

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Hero (BTN/SB): $15.95
BB: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.19) Hero is BTN/SB with 5:spade: K:club:
Hero raises to $0.25, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.54) 3:spade: T:heart: 6:diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BB calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.24) 5:heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75

River: ($2.74) 4:heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

Final Pot: $6.74
Hero shows 5:spade: K:club: (a pair of Fives)
BB shows 2:diamond: 5:diamond: (a straight, Deuce to Six)
BB wins $6.44
(Rake: $0.30)

masterpuppet
07.01.13, 06:53
Esmaspäeva varahommikud on kõige kuldsem aeg mängimiseks. Fishide regide osakool on vahva. Sain lõpuks kuu nulli ka ja võib hakata edasi paugutama.

#1

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CO: $8.26
BTN: $9.04
SB: $10.05
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 9:diamond: 6:heart:
2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.30) 6:diamond: 9:club: 3:heart: (3 players)
SB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, BTN calls $0.45, SB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.65) K:club: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.15, BTN raises to $2.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $9.45 all in, BTN calls $5.99 all in

River: ($18.63) 8:heart: (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $18.63
BTN shows Q:club: T:diamond: (high card King)
Hero shows 9:diamond: 6:heart: (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
Hero wins $17.79
(Rake: $0.84)


#2

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BB: $7.65
Hero (CO): $15.53
BTN: $10.49
SB: $21.51

Pre Flop: ($0.23) Hero is CO with 4:spade: 4:heart:
Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.73) Q:spade: 4:club: T:spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1.90, Hero calls $1.40

Turn: ($4.53) 7:club: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

River: ($6.53) 5:spade: (2 players)
BB bets $4.43 all in, Hero calls $4.43

Final Pot: $15.39
BB shows 2:heart: K:diamond: (high card King)
Hero shows 4:spade: 4:heart: (three of a kind, Fours)
Hero wins $14.70
(Rake: $0.69)


#3

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Hero (BTN/SB): $10.00
BB: $7.15

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN/SB with K:heart: J:heart:
Hero raises to $0.25, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.40) K:diamond: 9:heart: 7:heart: (2 players)
BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.40, BB raises to $2.30, Hero raises to $9.30 all in, BB calls $4.15 all in

Turn: ($14.30) 5:club: (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($14.30) 4:diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $14.30
Hero shows K:heart: J:heart: (a pair of Kings)
BB shows 9:diamond: 6:diamond: (a pair of Nines)
Hero wins $13.80
(Rake: $0.50)

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#4 Kas riveri call on mõeldav? Mängija kohta mingeid riide polnud. Seni 30 käe peale 32/16 ning hide search oli peal. Samas isik Austraaliast. :)

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UTG: $36.41
UTG+1: $16.82
MP: $26.41
CO: $40.02
BTN: $26.03
SB: $25.68
Hero (BB): $16.65

Pre Flop: ($0.29) Hero is BB with J:club: K:heart:
2 folds, MP calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.39) 8:diamond: 4:diamond: J:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.89) K:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75

River: ($2.39) 5:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.15, MP raises to $9.70, Hero ???

Majandaja
07.01.13, 07:31
Miks sa teises käes turnil nii vähe betid?

Ints
07.01.13, 10:00
Mina ei calliks viimast, nad liigapalju slowtavad sealt igasuguste setide ja flushidega ja jätavad riverisse overbet shoved jms.

pastilaa
07.01.13, 11:19
viimane KJ käsi kohutav check preflop...

pikk28
07.01.13, 11:35
yeah

HerrJanks
07.01.13, 11:43
viimane KJ käsi kohutav check preflop...

täiesti nõus

raise it up 5-6bb'd, ante laud siis maybe veel enam 6 küll

masterpuppet
07.01.13, 18:39
Miks sa teises käes turnil nii vähe betid?

Tahtsin teda ärgitada tegema seda, mida ta ka tegi. Õnnestus.

KJo käega oleksin nõus plaaniga, et PF peab seda raisima. Kuna ma olen koguaeg OOP suckinud ning agressorina on mul seal suur raha väljavool, siis vähemalt alguses hoian madalamat profiili.

Eks kõvasti ole leake, mida lappida. Praegu üritan vähemalt midagigi võita. :)

p0l1
07.01.13, 22:23
Kui neid OOP olukordi ei harjuta, siis ei õpi ka midagi. NL10 on suurepärane koht ja viimane aeg algust teha sellega (mõistuse piires muidugi, edu ).

masterpuppet
09.01.13, 22:26
Heia, ikka mängin, natukene võidan. Vaatab, mis tulevik toob. Mõned käed tänasest.

#1 Villane oli real fish ning kõik mu betid callis insta. Arvasin, et on draw peal või väikse paariga. Riverisse panna väike bet, et ta calliks überhalva kaardiga või kukuks leveldama? Või micros dont think and put money in?

Ps. Ma ei tea, miks ma flopis ei tõstnud üle. Ju oli mingi "kaval" plaan.

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BTN: $10.00
SB: $16.71
BB: $3.85
UTG: $10.00
UTG+1: $1.50
Hero (UTG+2): $10.00
MP1: $9.01
MP2: $12.40
CO: $4.39

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+2 with K:club: K:spade:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) 7:heart: 6:diamond: 6:spade: (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.40) K:heart: (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.70, SB calls $1.70, BB folds

River: ($5.80) J:club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.90, SB calls $1.90

Final Pot: $9.60
SB mucks J:diamond: J:heart:
Hero shows K:club: K:spade: (a full house, Kings full of Sixes)
Hero wins $9.17
(Rake: $0.43)

#1.1 Sarnane olukord


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SB: $11.29
Hero (BB): $22.80
BTN: $26.86

Pre Flop: ($0.21) Hero is BB with Q:heart: A:spade:
BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.45, 1 fold, SB calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.06) 8:diamond: 3:club: T:spade: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.26) A:club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.65, SB calls $1.65

River: ($5.56) 4:club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.90, SB calls $1.90

Final Pot: $9.36
SB mucks 6:diamond: 6:heart:
Hero shows Q:heart: A:spade: (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins $8.94
(Rake: $0.42)



#2 River suht obv check j2rgi? Villane vaal.

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UTG: $10.00
CO: $4.68
Hero (BTN): $12.59
SB: $5.88
BB: $8.00

UTG posts a big blind ($0.10)

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is BTN with Q:spade: A:club:
UTG checks, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.65) 2:heart: J:spade: 4:spade: (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1, CO folds

Turn: ($3.65) Q:heart: (2 players)
UTG bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

River: ($5.85) 8:heart: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

Final Pot: $8.85
UTG shows 4:club: J:club: (two pair, Jacks and Fours)
Hero shows Q:spade: A:club: (a pair of Queens)
UTG wins $8.45
(Rake: $0.40)

Ints
09.01.13, 22:41
2 esimest kätt oleks ise samamoodi mängind, kuna saab nõrgemad käed callima ja teinekord lhevad hulluks seal.
Viimases käes ch jah.

viki
09.01.13, 23:50
Mulle meeldib kõrge mänguosalusprotsendiga härrade(prouade) vastu igal tänaval võimalikult suured betid teha.See on lihtsalt ulme,millega vahel maha callitakse.

masterpuppet
10.01.13, 12:37
Käed hakkasid vist vahepeal showdownile jõudma. Samas see hark lõpus on nagu liiga järsk.

http://www.upload.ee/image/2973076/s.png

vsiu100
10.01.13, 12:44
1. käsi beti river 3-3,2???

nikitheone
10.01.13, 13:20
1. käsi ,kui callib kõigega maha betiks suuremalt turni ja riveri
1.1 pre rohkem, turn rohkem
2. pre rohkem

pmst on võimatu käsi kommenteerida, kui infi pole. vaal pole piisav, vaalu on väga erinevaid

HerrJanks
10.01.13, 13:27
pohhui see red line, ainus asi mis loeb on money line - ta võib veel järsemalt kuristikku kukkuda ja võid suur võitija olla

qbj0hn
10.01.13, 17:32
Post #339,

Liiga vähe tahad raha saada, jube thin värk, ükskõik mis statsid vastasel ka poleks.

+1 HerrJanksile muidu.

Strawberry
10.01.13, 19:06
Ma olen täheldanud et microdes üldiselt ongi redline üsna raske ülesmäge liigutada.

#1 inimesed alahindavad kui suur rake on microdes, suur rake mõjutab väga oluliselt ka redline-i
#2 villainid callivad palju rohkem ja selliste vastu tulekski adjustida rõhudes rohkem value handidele ja vähem bluffidele (aka blue line)

Kergelt negatiivne redline microdes ei ole kindlasti halb

Murdock
10.01.13, 20:07
Tahaks näha mõne micromehe graphi kellel redline on 0$ lähedal.
On see üldse micros võimalik?

Ints
10.01.13, 22:29
see kuu esimesed 20k oli 0 ringis

reggie
10.01.13, 22:49
Päris hea tekst punase joone kohta.

The Red-Line Myth



These days having a graph with a break-even/positive red-line is the fashion. Ironically it could be losing you a lot of money.

The purpose of this post is not to bash players with a positive red-line; some very sick players have these type of graphs. The purpose is to demonstrate how some players are burning money to achieve it - and in some instances might not be playing as well as players with a falling red-line.

The Relation between Red and Blue


The first thing to understand is that it is virtually impossible to change your non-showdown winnings without affecting your showdown winnings. Any change you make to red will nearly always have an effect on blue.

Imagine you check behind in a thin river situation with the best hand. Those winnings will always go to the blue line. What if you bet though? Likely your opponent might fold and those winnings will now hit your red line instead of your blue line. You've increased your red line at the expense of your blue line.

What should influence your decision in whether to sacrifice your blue line in exchange for a better red line? The value of red and blue lines is exactly equivalent. $1 in the red line is worth exactly $1 in the blue line. Simply put, you want to choose the option that makes you the most money and not be influenced by whether that money will hit red or blue. If you had a choice between $1 increase to your red line, or a $1.50 increase to your blue line, the decision should be pretty straightforward.

We are going to consider 3 general scenarios where players are sacrificing a large chunk of blue line to achieve a smaller amount of red-line. In other words they are arbitrarily making plays that increase their red line to produce a "cool" graph, but not maximising their value in the long run. Afterwards we will consider 3 ways to improve red-line while sacrificing a smaller amount of blue-line.


3 ways of Losing EV by focusing on Red Line


1 - Bluffing with the best hand

Imagine you reach a river scenario OOP where you have double barrelled with a pair. For the sake of simplicity (and we will do this in all examples) let's assume our pair is good, our opponent has a busted draw, and he loves to bluff. (In reality you won't know this for certain but you can make your best estimates based on ranges and your hand reading ability).

There is $100 in the pot. Since we know we have the best hand and our opponent will fold his draw we can easily add $100 to our red-line by betting and taking down the pot. If we were to check however and let our opponent bluff, we are clearly going to make more money than this. Specifically we will make the average amount villain bets multiplied by the frequency he bets (since we know we are good) on top of the $100. Betting here will increase your red-line but is essentially burning money since check-calling will result in an even bigger net-gain to your blue line.

2 - Value betting too thin

Hopefully you are aware that in order for a value bet to be profitable you need to get called by worse >50% of the time. The amount of money already in the pot does not factor into value-bet calculations.

Let's imagine we are on the river in position and we know when we bet our opponent will show up with a worse hand only 40% of the time. Our value-bet is losing us money, we should check-back, adding to our blue-line. When we do bet and our opponent has a worse hand, those winnings sometimes go to the red-line instead of the blue-line. The play overall is losing money and is a bad one, but it also has the side effect of transferring some of our winnings to the red-line category.

3- Bluffing in bad spots

Bluffing against calling-stations or players with strong ranges is usually not going to pay off. When your bluff fails it is not going to be represented in your red-line (assuming you reach showdown), it's your blue-line that takes a big hit. The only time your red-line is affected is when your bluff works and your red line goes up. It doesn't mean the bluff was profitable, it just means that you are continually sacrificing both your overall winrate and your blue-line to improve your red line.

It pays to be passive (On occasion wink )


Often players go into games with the mantra that they want to be "aggressive", fire a lot of barrels, and really jump up their red-line. Against some players this strategy will work a charm. Against others - specifically players who either like to bluff too much, or call too much, it simply isn't the best strategy. Aggression is often good in poker, but in certain situations being passive is the correct option.

Vs certain players the way you maximise your earnings is by playing with a falling red-line. You can arbitrarily try to increase your red-line but likely you will be sacrificing EV by doing it. You are literally shelling out dollars just for the luxury of having a cooler looking graph. Sure, maybe other posters will salivate over it and make you feel awesome, but naturally what they don't see is all the situations where you had to play sub-optimally to achieve it.

Having said that, we don't want to be giving up red-line dollars unnecessarily, and if we do find an opportunity where we can sacrifice blue-line dollars for a larger amount of red-line dollars there is no reason why we wouldn't want to. Let's consider 3 simple ways of improving red-line.


3 ways to Improve your Red Line (and your winrate).


1) Steal wider

People often don't think of missing good steal attempts as a leak. After all, it's just a few bb. The size of a leak is not just measured in big-blinds though, it's specifically measured in big-blinds over a period of time. In other words the frequency with which a leak appears in your game has a direct impact on how big that leak is.

Often when thinking of big leaks players might describe a time when they occasionally stack off light with a baby flush on the river. In reality this happens so infrequently it'll actually be a pretty small leak. You often get chances to make light steals 2 or 3 times an orbit, so routinely missing these opportunities will cost you a ton of money in the long run. Steal wide vs tight blinds!

Of course, opening wider means that when you get called your range will be wider. You will lose at showdown more often. You are sacrificing blue-line in exchange for red-line. Your net gain in red-line will be more than your net-losses in blue line however.

2) 3bet bluff

Look for players with a high Ft3bet and 3bet bluff. It's extremely important to understand the maths behind bluffs - it is very basic and you should look into it even if you don't consider yourself a maths based player.

SB posts 0.5BB. Hero (BB) posts 1BB. SB raises to 3BB. Hero raises to 9BB. How often does this bluff need to work?

Use this formula - Amount invested / Total Pot (including hero's bet)
Hero raises 8. Total pot is 12. 8/12 = 0.666 or 66.66%

This means if your opponent folds more than 66% of the time you generate an instant profit by 3bet bluffing, even if you give up when called. As before, you are going to be getting to showdown with weaker on average; you are sacrificing blue-line for red-line. The same as before, your net gain in red-line will be more than your net-losses in blue line.

3) Check-raise bluff

This can apply to flop, turn or river. The maths is exactly the same as it is in 3bet bluffing. Establish what price you are getting on your bluff and with what frequency you need it to work. If your opponent is folding more often than this you are going to generate instant profit (and yes with a cost to your overall blue-line).

Burning Money to Look Cool


That's essentially what some players are doing by arbitrarily trying to achieve a better red-line. At the end of the day which is a better? Winning at 10bb/100 with falling red-line or winning at 7bb/100 with a positive red-line?

So think about what you are doing, and why. Never try to arbitrarily make certain stats rise or fall; think about the play that is going to net you the most EV in the long run.

virukunn
10.01.13, 22:57
Tahaks näha mõne micromehe graphi kellel redline on 0$ lähedal.
On see üldse micros võimalik?

Võimalik kindlasti aga selle arvelt kukub SD. Muidu +1 Strawberryle, eriti 2. poindile.

masterpuppet
12.01.13, 12:38
Sellised käed teevad alati nalja.

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Hero (BB): $10.00
BTN/SB: $9.52

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with J:club: J:spade:
BTN/SB raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN/SB raises to $9.52 all in, Hero calls $8.67

Flop: ($19.04) J:diamond: 7:diamond: 3:diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($19.04) T:spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($19.04) 7:spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $19.04
Hero shows J:club: J:spade: (a full house, Jacks full of Sevens)
BTN/SB shows 7:heart: 7:club: (four of a kind, Sevens)
BTN/SB wins $18.54
(Rake: $0.50)

masterpuppet
12.01.13, 12:45
Villane on huvitav regular 25/13 statsidega 500 käe kohta. Cbeti on raisenud 15% kordadel.
On ka üks huvitav read, kus callides mu resteali BU boardil A72ss pani mu standard 1/2 cbetile nupud.


Flop fine? Mida teeme turnis?

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SB: $16.00
BB: $24.71
Hero (UTG): $24.70
UTG+1: $6.41
MP: $18.98
CO: $2.56
BTN: $16.00

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is UTG with J:diamond: A:spade:
Hero raises to $0.48, 1 fold, MP calls $0.48, 4 folds

Flop: ($1.20) 6:heart: T:spade: T:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.72, MP raises to $2.08, Hero raises to $6, MP calls $3.92

Turn: ($13.20) K:club: (2 players)

HERO?

masterpuppet
12.01.13, 19:35
Games are dead..

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MP2: $18.72
CO: $11.41
BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $16.22
BB: $11.68
UTG: $24.32
UTG+1: $9.33
UTG+2: $25.00
MP1: $11.27

Pre Flop: ($0.33) Hero is SB with A:diamond: A:spade:
UTG raises to $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.65, BB calls $1.55, UTG calls $1.45, UTG+1 calls $1.45, MP2 calls $1.45

Flop: ($8.43) 5:heart: 3:club: 6:diamond: (5 players)
Hero bets $4, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $4

Turn: ($16.43) 9:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP2 calls $7

River: ($30.43) 6:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $3.55 all in, MP2 calls $3.55

Final Pot: $37.53
MP2 shows K:diamond: A:heart: (a pair of Sixes)
Hero shows A:diamond: A:spade: (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Hero wins $36.03
(Rake: $1.50)

masterpuppet
13.01.13, 10:50
The power of checking...

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Hero (BB): $10.00
BTN/SB: $8.04

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
BTN/SB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN/SB raises to $0.70, Hero raises to $2, BTN/SB calls $1.30

Flop: ($4.00) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: ($4.00) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN/SB calls $2

River: ($8.00) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6 all in, BTN/SB calls $4.04 all in

Final Pot: $16.08
Hero shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Nines)
BTN/SB shows Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
Hero wins $15.58
(Rake: $0.50)

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UTG: $9.27
UTG+1: $24.23
Hero (MP1): $26.50
MP2: $40.14
CO: $25.00
BTN: $9.94
SB: $11.54
BB: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.31) Hero is MP1 with Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.55, 1 fold, CO calls $0.55, 2 folds, BB raises to $2.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.55, CO calls $1.55

Flop: ($6.61) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, CO calls $3, BB folds

Turn: ($12.61) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7

River: ($26.61) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12.83 all in, Hero calls $12.83

Final Pot: $52.27
Hero shows Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
CO shows 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (two pair, Jacks and Fours)
Hero wins $50.82
(Rake: $1.45)

masterpuppet
14.01.13, 19:43
:heart:

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MP: $16.00
CO: $12.80
Hero (BTN): $16.87
SB: $8.04
BB: $14.39
UTG: $16.62
UTG+1: $16.00

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero is BTN with 9 :spade: K :spade:
2 folds, MP calls $0.16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.64, 2 folds, MP calls $0.48

Flop: ($1.52) 9 :club: 8 :heart: 8 :club: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1

Turn: ($3.52) 7 :diamond: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.30, MP calls $2.30

River: ($8.12) 9 :diamond: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $4.80, MP raises to $12.06 all in, Hero calls $7.26

Final Pot: $32.24
MP shows 2 :club: 2 :heart: (two pair, Nines and Eights)
Hero shows 9 :spade: K :spade: (a full house, Nines full of Eights)
Hero wins $30.79
(Rake: $1.45)

masterpuppet
16.01.13, 08:04
Kena hommikupoolik oli just. Kaart jooksis ning tundsin ennast laudades väga hästi. Tulid vanad ajad meelde. Roll 500$ ning hakkan vaikselt NL25 mõtteid mõlgutama.

Käsi kah. Kõik villased vaalad. Avaja oli eelnevalt 2-l eelmisel käel samuti avanud ning paistis agrom. Selline moove fine? Tundus kuidagi antud kontekstis mõistlik.

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SB: $63.10
BB: $24.42
UTG: $14.23
UTG+1: $10.70
UTG+2: $15.26
MP1: $25.00
MP2: $12.20
Hero (CO): $20.00
BTN: $24.81

Pre Flop: ($0.33) Hero is CO with K:heart: A:diamond:
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.30, MP2 raises to $1, Hero raises to $19.98 all in, 6 folds

Final Pot: $2.73
Hero mucks K:heart: A:diamond:
Hero wins $2.73
(Rake: $0.00)


Ja tänase hommiku grindilaul. Soovitan soojal Planeedi depüütalbumit. Puhas kuld ja win.


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Majandaja
16.01.13, 08:23
Mis su kasutaja starsis on, kui see saladus pole?

500$ nl25 jaoks on minu arust liiga vähe. Ise liikusin nl25 esimestel shottidel 750$ ja hiljem veel shotid 800$-ga. Tiksun siiani nl16 ja nl25 vahet. Loodetavasti saab needus varsti murtud.

masterpuppet
16.01.13, 08:35
Ma arvan, et kui sa hästi kõrvutad neid nimesid, siis saad saladusele jälile. Eelnevalt üks härra siin hõiskas ka selle nime välja.

Aga nah, arvan et 500$ fine 80bb sisseistumiseks. Olen pokkerikarjääri jooksul seda NL25 nii palju nühkinud, et mingit põdemist küll pole. Lihtsalt peab õigel ajal alla tulema tagasi.

Mrt1989
16.01.13, 08:50
Imo selles AK käes oleks parem 4betida 2.70$ peale . See annab võimaluse fishil oma pasaga callida ja saame ta vastu IP pelada. Shove tundub liiga tugev ja fishil võimalus korrektselt pelada ja foldida.

Majandaja
16.01.13, 09:50
Ma arvan, et kui sa hästi kõrvutad neid nimesid, siis saad saladusele jälile. Eelnevalt üks härra siin hõiskas ka selle nime välja.

Aga nah, arvan et 500$ fine 80bb sisseistumiseks. Olen pokkerikarjääri jooksul seda NL25 nii palju nühkinud, et mingit põdemist küll pole. Lihtsalt peab õigel ajal alla tulema tagasi.

No kui sa oled varem seda nühkinud, siis tõesti, jätsid selle info ennem mainimata:biggrin: Kas 80bb on lauda istumiseks mõistlik?

FreakyJason
16.01.13, 11:23
Ma arvan, et kui sa hästi kõrvutad neid nimesid, siis saad saladusele jälile. Eelnevalt üks härra siin hõiskas ka selle nime välja.

Aga nah, arvan et 500$ fine 80bb sisseistumiseks. Olen pokkerikarjääri jooksul seda NL25 nii palju nühkinud, et mingit põdemist küll pole. Lihtsalt peab õigel ajal alla tulema tagasi.

Rahulikult võid 100bb-ga lauda istuda.

Ints
16.01.13, 11:50
niipalju kui testinud olen siis nl25 on parem mängida kui 16, laudu kõvasti rohkem, mäng ka natuke loosem.

Majandaja
16.01.13, 12:20
niipalju kui testinud olen siis nl25 on parem mängida kui 16, laudu kõvasti rohkem, mäng ka natuke loosem.

Minu arust on nl16 palju lihtsam kui 25. Laudu on tõesti kõvasti rohkem, nii on ka mängijate arv seal limiidis kordades suurem ehk alguses on kindlasti raskem kuniks saavad mängijad ära märgistatud ja note juurde ehk siis kohanemine kõvasti raskem.

muttaja
16.01.13, 12:24
Mis selle 80bb eesmärk on?

Oliverk
16.01.13, 12:26
vaimne kindlus

-andres-
16.01.13, 12:40
Seleta, miks sa arvad, et AK shove seal antud käes su jaoks hea tundub :D?

Ints
16.01.13, 12:44
Imo raskem pärast arvamismängu teha suvalisel 58J flopil kui villan flatib 3beti ja flopil hulluks läheb

Mrt1989
16.01.13, 12:53
Ta ei saa flatida kuna ta ise 3 betis , me saame flatida või 4bet i teha. Ise eelistaks 4bet i shovele.

masterpuppet
16.01.13, 18:35
80bb eesmärk on ka variatsiooni vähendamine. Et ei peaks halva jooksu alla niivõrd kiiresti alla kolima.

See AK käsi oli kuidagi flow küsimus. Vastased olid kõik megavaalad ning 3betija oli enne seda kätt mitu korda agrotanud. Tundus kuidagi huvitavam nuputada ja leveldada vastased callima.

Jube nüri on minu jaoks 3beted potis agromaniaki vastu mängida.

Ints
16.01.13, 21:37
oeh, kiiruga vaatasin valesti kätt jah, igatahes vahet pole sellise vastase vastu on kindlasti 4bet shove parem kui flat või tavaline 4bet

muttaja
16.01.13, 23:01
Kui 80bb eesmärk on variatsiooni vähendada, siis miks sa 40bb-ga ei mängi?

4bet shove on enda elu lihtsamaks tegemine, aga ma arvan, et pikas perspektiivis on see sama kasumlik tegevus kui foldimine. 4bet shovedes välistad vastase igasuguse bluffimise ja sind callitakse aint AK-ga ja JJ+. See, et sind kehvemaga callitakse, on umbes sama tõenäoline, kui et sa oled sattunud AA/KK otsa, mille vastu on sul maru kehv equity ehk sa peaks preflop foldima. Niiet mulle tunduvad fold ja 4bet shove üpris võrdselt halvad. Normaalse 4bet sizinguga bettides on elu kindlasti keerulisem, ent võid midagi ka reaalselt võita. Kui pokker oleks ainult lihtsad otsused, ei saaks seal ka raha võita, sest lihtsate otsuste vahel valides ei saa vastane ka vigu teha (ja nt selle käe puhul ongi vastasel just lihtne otsus teha).

-andres-
16.01.13, 23:08
+1
Asjalik post ka vahelpeal siia.

masterpuppet
17.01.13, 05:44
Tänud. Pigem ilmselt leveldasingi ainult iseennast. :) Aga tulistage-tulistage, noomige ja sõimake. Mu uppuvat ja igast küljest lekkivat paati tuleb parandada.

Aga eelnevale teemale jätkuks, et 80bb ning 40bb mängides on juba suur vahe sees ning ei saa enam mängida normaalset mängu.

80bb mäng ongi minu jaoks uut limiit vallutades pigem võimalus natukene riske maandada. Obv läheb value kaduma, kuid see on ainult lühiajaline.

masterpuppet
17.01.13, 07:21
Ja uude limiiti minnes tundmatuna ning 80bb stackiga tembeldatakse sind esmatutvumisel suure tõenäosusega regulari poolt halvaks mängijaks. Ehe näide.

Aga muidu turni size. Oma lolli aruga pakun, et mingi summa endale tahajätmine on mõistlikum kui sealt nuppe panna. Nuppude panemine tundub tugevam ning villasel on kergem korrektselt mängida ja foldida? Või puhtalt jälle leveldan iseennast?

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Hero (CO): $20.00
BTN: $10.00
SB: $25.00
BB: $32.66
UTG: $47.66
UTG+1: $10.35
UTG+2: $26.70
MP1: $25.00
MP2: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with J:heart: A:heart:
4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.95, Hero calls $0.95, 2 folds, BB calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.95) A:diamond: 4:heart: J:diamond: (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $2.17, Hero calls $2.17, BB folds

Turn: ($7.29) 2:spade: (2 players)
MP2 bets $5.35, Hero raises to $13, MP2 calls $7.65

River: ($33.29) 6:club: (2 players)
MP2 bets $8.88 all in, Hero calls $3.88 all in

Final Pot: $41.05
Hero shows J:heart: A:heart: (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
MP2 shows A:spade: Q:club: (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins $39.20
(Rake: $1.85)

masterpuppet
18.01.13, 08:34
Tore kui uus limiiti nii vastu võtab ning hiiteripoiss külas käib. Samas ilmselt võtan alates veebruarist tuure maha, kuna selgus, et sain ikkagi silmapiiril olnud töökoha - seega kolin Tartust Tallinnasse ning täiskohaga töö kõrval peab veel magistrantuuri ka ära lõpetama. Seega ilmselt aeg-ajalt toksin vabadel hetkedel. Aga eks näis. Hommikuti vist enam niimoodi edasi lasta ei jaksa.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16604296/hommik.png

Käsi kah. Vastase kohta midagi ei ole, kuna uus limiit, uus laud. Search hide oli peal. Kuidas seda kätt mängida? Mul jooksis nii mõistus kokku. Käe tulemus on muidugi onu hiiteri kätetöö.

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BB: $36.37
UTG: $23.98
UTG+1: $11.24
MP1: $26.10
MP2: $28.00
CO: $4.04
Hero (BTN): $23.37
SB: $62.88

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 5:heart: 6:heart:
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.25) A:heart: 8:heart: T:heart: (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB raises to $1.60, BB folds, UTG calls $1.60, CO folds, Hero raises to $4.80, SB raises to $8, UTG folds, Hero raises to $23.12 all in, SB calls $15.12

Turn: ($49.09) A:spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($49.09) 7:diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $49.09
Hero shows 5:heart: 6:heart: (a flush, Ace high - Six higher)
SB shows 4:heart: 3:heart: (a flush, Ace high)
Hero wins $47.09
(Rake: $2.00)

masterpuppet
31.01.13, 08:23
Võib selle kuu siis rahulikult kokku võtta. Mängutunde tuli imelised 55h, kuid ilmselt sellist "rekordit" edaspidi ei tule. Võitev loodetavasti olen ning ehk ka NL25 kanda kinnitanud. Palju ei mängi tulevikus, kuid NL25 õlleraha ikka saab.

Käsi siis 21k ning winrate 12,4bb/100. Müstiline on see, et limiitidest jäi NL16 miinusesse. Roll viisakas 30BI NL25 jaoks ning saab pingevabamalt grindida.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16604296/jaanuar.png

qbj0hn
31.01.13, 13:34
80bb eesmärk on ka variatsiooni vähendamine. Et ei peaks halva jooksu alla niivõrd kiiresti alla kolima.



See 5$ nüüd küll midagi ei päästa. Kui mängid siis tableselectid ju nagunii ja tahaks fishid ikka ära coverdada ja kui ei coverda siis on lihtsalt põletamine long run.
Kõik pole SSerid.
Kui variatsiooni tahad vähendada siis väldi lihtsalt regularidega olukordi, aga fishidelt tahad sa saada max kätte!

masterpuppet
31.01.13, 14:51
Eipa. ka fishi vastu võin kaotada ning seetõttu pean limiidist alla kolima. Väiksema BI korral aga võin kordi rohkem kaotada, kuniks pean limiidist alla kolima.

Hetkel just kinkisin kaks Full BI ühele fishile ära, kui tal kaks korda oli first nuts vs minu second nuts. :/

See kehtib siis stop-loss situatsiooni korral, kus liigun kindla summa kaotamise järel madalamasse limiiti. Obv, kui roll lubaks, sitsiks full BI lauas.

masterpuppet
14.02.13, 05:55
Ja nagu karta oligi, ei jätku uue töö kõrvalt üldse aega, et pogerit taguda. Samuti ei ole hetkel mitte mingisugust motti ka. Seega võtsin suurema osa rollist välja ning jätsin väikse seemne, kui kunagi ikka jälle isu tuleb.

Seega, vaikus siia saabub taas.

nikitheone
14.02.13, 07:30
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