Davy

[McFoldberg]

Finally

http://www.upload.ee/thumb/117580/supernova1.bmp





Graz!

[lebovend]

minu poolt ka õnnesoovid, sinu topic on mulle miskipärast koguaeg hinge läinud.

[Tuul]

Mulle oled sa ka kogu aeg meeldinud :heart:

[FreakyJason]

Väga pro :)

[Davy]

Täna peale õllesummerit mängisin purjus peaga :-\

alkohol+ eilsed Fold equity proovimis testid = -6bi, mida standard mänguga ei oleks kaotanud.

Gotta lose some to learn some...eh?

[Ajuvaba]

Loogika ok, aga mul ei ole NUT draw, sellega võin veel jamadesse sattuda imo.


mis sul on siis?

[Davy]

mis sul on siis?


Sa tahad õelda mida?

[-andres-]

mis sul on siis?


Flopil K-high flushdraw.

[Davy]

K: Kuidas pokkerimängija oma uut monitori seadistab?
V: Kõigepealt pusib niisama ja siis võtab starsi laua ette ja paneb selle järgi 10 sekundiga paika :P

Sain uue 24 tollise laiekraan monitori. Käsisin poes helikaarti ostmas, aga jäi silma selline monitor nagu Samsung 2433, mis võimaldab sellist mõnusat resulutsiooni nagu 1920:1200. Hind oli ainult? 3,7k. Mahutab 12 starsi lauada ilma overlappinguta ja 20 suhteliselt väikse overlappinguga.

24 tollise monitori ostmisel soovitaks uurida, mis resolutsiooni pakutakse, väga paljudel on selleks 1920:1080. 120 lisapikslit kuluvad ära :)

[lenC]

ja kus poes see olla võiks? Me wants...

[Davy]

ja kus poes see olla võiks? Me wants...


Mina sain ATF-st, aga neid pakutakse ka vist mujal.

http://www.hinnavaatlus.ee/products/Arvutiriistvara/LCD+monitorid/101711/ see on see mis mul, soovitan julgelt btw... aga eks kallimad ole äkki paremad....

[lenC]

Mina sain ATF-st, aga neid pakutakse ka vist mujal.

http://www.hinnavaatlus.ee/products/Arvutiriistvara/LCD+monitorid/101711/ see on see mis mul, soovitan julgelt btw... aga eks kallimad ole äkki paremad....



ma tänan, oleks üks palve veel, ehk viitsid 20-st lauast screeni teha, et saaks aimu, kuidas overlapivad.

[Davy]

ma tänan, oleks üks palve veel, ehk viitsid 20-st lauast screeni teha, et saaks aimu, kuidas overlapivad.



No problem

http://www.upload.ee/image/135210/jpg.JPG

[Davy]

Ja siin ka yks 9 laualine pilt, nagu näed, 9 lauda ei ole päris miniview veel...saab laudu veel väiksemaks teha.

http://www.upload.ee/image/135215/jdfs.JPG

[Davy]

Tõsiselt .... mida põrgut....70k see kuu juba mänginud ja showdown winnings on minimaalselt 3k USD allpool, kus ta olema peaks... ja siis tuleb selline päev otsa...

-12bi 2k käega .... give me a break!

http://www.upload.ee/image/135617/wtf.jpg

[elixs]

:O

[Davy]

ok, peale mõnusat 17 buy innilist kuristikku lähme teema supernova VIP turnat.

poti võitja 2x chipleader 100 kohta enne rahasid..rigged käsi
http://www.pokerhand.org/?4511651

Mängime natuke 6maxi... mitte ühtegi potti ei suuda võita... -260 750 käega

Lähme mängime FT-s headsuppi natuke.
3 of my fav

1)Veidi donkish vastane tundus imelikke agressiivseid moove imelikkes kohtades teinud.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (BB) ($139.70)
SB ($101.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $6, Hero raises $14, SB calls $8

Turn: ($34) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $17, SB raises $35, Hero raises $105.70 (All-In), SB calls $49.70 (All-In)

River: ($203.40) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $203.40

Results:
SB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: SB won $202.90



2) Sama vastane, olin 3bettinud teda nüüd juba konstantselt... tüüp flattis pidevalt, aga andis alla riveriks
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (BB) ($144.50)
SB ($171)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
SB bets $2.50, Hero raises $10, SB calls $8

Flop: ($22) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $13, SB calls $13

Turn: ($48) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $36, SB raises $147 (All-In), Hero calls $84.50 (All-In)

River: ($289) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $289

Results:
SB had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, twos over Queens).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Outcome: SB won $315



3) Lihtsalt mõnus... vastane def ei olnud mingisugune nit
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($111.60)
BB ($142.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB raises $20, Hero raises $102.60 (All-In), BB calls $88.60

Turn: ($223.20) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($223.20) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $223.20

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: BB won $222.70

[Davy]

UU vägev, mängime veel natuke HU vs reg. Ma ei saa aru, kas pokkeris peabki olema doomswithced 33% ajast ja 100k jookusul 3-4 15+BI innist dowswingi läbi mängima ?


Mis arvate 3nda käe riverist?


1 käsi kohe lauas. Kõik käed sama vastase vastu.

1)
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($100.50)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
Hero bets $2.50, BB raises $10, Hero raises $24, BB raises $89 (All-In), Hero calls $73

Flop: ($200) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($200) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($200) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $200

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Queens).
BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (straight, Queen high).
Outcome: BB won $199.50


2) Teine käsi, mis arvate, kas ilma flopi agresiivse historyta on tema shove 160bb deep mõttekas?

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($210)
BB ($157.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BB raises $12, Hero raises $26.50, BB raises $142.50 (All-In), Hero calls $124.50

Turn: ($315) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($315) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $315

Results:
Hero had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, tens and eights).
BB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Jacks and tens).
Outcome: BB won $314.50


3) RIVER?
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (BB) ($176.80)
SB ($233.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $4, Hero raises $14, SB calls $10

Turn: ($34) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $22, SB calls $22

River: ($78) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $38, SB calls $38

Total pot: $154

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, eights).
Outcome: SB won $153.50

[50CandyJoe]

liiga karmid biidid sul need viimased :(

[leits]

kani aggrolt on need käed muidugi mängitud ka, a vb standard 6maxi jaoks, seega ie hakka commentima neid

[Fortune]

kani aggrolt on need käed muidugi mängitud ka, a vb standard 6maxi jaoks, seega ie hakka commentima neid


tegemist on HU-ga ;D

[leits]

a okay .. mis read :D

[Davy]

Kinda fun run, ev on savi, nonshowdown käed on müstilised. Mängida ka eriti pikalt ei saa sellise runniga.
Juuli basically rakeback pro.
94k kätt ja koos rakebackiga kuskil +3k.

http://www.upload.ee/image/145645/run.jpg

[Davy]

Uues kuus uue hooga ?

WRONG!!!!


Gazillion suckouti ja coolerit. 20bi alla ev 28k käega polegi enne jooksnud, midagi uut vähemalt. Siiski palju hullem on see , mis nonshowdown pottides toimub, krt nagu teised näeks mu kaarte, täiesti sick.
Superlemmikud on need kui ehitad endale imaget ja siis saadki olukorra :Hero is super happy here to call a squueze shove with QQ 130bb deep.... only to witnes a K high flop with villain holding KK....Hero not super happy any more.


August so far
http://www.upload.ee/image/147676/whatupordown.jpg

[BuildUp]

No problem

http://www.upload.ee/image/135210/jpg.JPG


Hei,

Räägi kas sul muidu 2 monitori ka?

Ma just mõtlen seda, et endal 2 monitori. Üks on ka 24" samsa oma, aga kui võtan starsis laudu ja lükkan tile peale, siis ta lööb suurele ainult 9 lauda(samamoodi nagu sul ühel dp-l) ja ülejäänud lauad 19"sele.

Sooviks ka nii, et suurel monitoril oleks 12-20 lauda. :P

[-andres-]

Hei,

Räägi kas sul muidu 2 monitori ka?

Ma just mõtlen seda, et endal 2 monitori. Üks on ka 24" samsa oma, aga kui võtan starsis laudu ja lükkan tile peale, siis ta lööb suurele ainult 9 lauda(samamoodi nagu sul ühel dp-l) ja ülejäänud lauad 19"sele.

Sooviks ka nii, et suurel monitoril oleks 12-20 lauda. :P



Sul endal võimalus custom layout ka teha. Ühe korra pead käsitsi panema aknad paika, järgmised korrad hüppavad ise õige koha peale.

[Davy]

Nii täna siis lõpuks oli see päev kui variatsioon sai minust jagu...

Esimene käsi sessis, sain oma bb postitatud.

1)No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($76.75)
Hero (BB) ($100)
UTG ($161)
MP ($196.45)
Button ($121.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
2 folds, Button bets $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5, Hero raises $15, Button raises $30, Hero raises $82 (All-In), Button calls $62

Turn: ($200.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($200.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $200.50

Results below:
Button had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, Jacks).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Kings and Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $198.50


2)No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($100)
SB ($38.20)
BB ($79.05)
UTG ($142)
Hero (MP) ($105.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4, 2 folds, BB raises $8, UTG calls $5, Hero raises $101.30 (All-In), BB calls $70.05 (All-In), 1 fold

Flop: ($167.60) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($167.60) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($167.60) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $167.60

Results below:
BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $165.60


3) Kõik järgnevad käed on ühe monkeyfishivastu , kes oma flopp betting range polariseeris ainult bluffideks :P
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($100)
UTG ($175.75)
MP ($160.90)
Hero (Button) ($105.20)
SB ($318)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
UTG bets $5, 1 fold, Hero raises $15.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $10.50

Flop: ($32.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG raises $105, Hero calls $74.70 (All-In)

Turn: ($211.90) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($211.90) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $211.90

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, fives).
UTG had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, eights and fives).
Outcome: UTG won $225.20


4) Sama fishi vastu, peaks riveril foldima überüberfishi vastu saades 4:1?
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($100)
SB ($145.75)
BB ($162.40)
Hero (UTG) ($176.70)
MP ($35.50)
CO ($247.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
Hero bets $3, MP calls $3, 2 folds, SB raises $4.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, MP calls $2

Flop: ($16) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, 1 fold, SB calls $10

Turn: ($36) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB calls $25

River: ($86) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $30, Hero calls $30

Total pot: $146

Results below:
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (straight, Ace high).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: SB won $143


5) sama fishi vastu
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($21.65)
Button ($62.20)
SB ($155.65)
Hero (BB) ($249.50)
UTG ($159)
MP ($131.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
3 folds, Button bets $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($8.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero raises $245.50 (All-In), Button calls $46.20 (All-In)

Turn: ($124.90) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($124.90) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $124.90

Results below:
Button had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (flush, King high).
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, eight high).
Outcome: Button won $121.90


6) Käsi sama fishi vastu

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($260.70)
MP ($119.15)
CO ($162.65)
Hero (Button) ($196.50)
SB ($133.60)
BB ($163.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, MP bets $14, 1 fold, Hero raises $196.50 (All-In), 2 folds, MP calls $105.15 (All-In)

Flop: ($239.80) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($239.80) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($239.80) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $239.80

Results below:
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (straight, Jack high).
MP had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (straight, Jack high).
Outcome: MP won $118.40


Tulemus
MONKEYTILT!!!!
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($100)
CO ($208.55)
Button ($262.50)
Hero (SB) ($100.50)
BB ($101.50)
UTG ($327.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, MP bets $4, 2 folds, Hero raises $12.50, 1 fold, MP raises $26, Hero raises $39, MP raises $74 (All-In), Hero calls $61

Flop: ($201) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($201) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($201) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $201

Results below:
Hero had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, threes).
MP had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: MP won $198



Isn`t poker fun sometimes.

Viimase 100k käe jooksul olen umbes 50k nii jooksnud, ei saa - ei saa aru kuidas on võimalik teistel 5ptbb joosta.

[Davy]

Lõuks ometi fish busto, saab natuke närve puhata.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

UTG ($20.15)
MP ($103.20)
CO ($147.20)
Hero (Button) ($175.30)
SB ($174.25)
BB ($151.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, MP bets $8, 1 fold, Hero raises $25, 2 folds, MP calls $17

Flop: ($51.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $18, MP calls $18

Turn: ($87.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $132.30 (All-In), MP calls $60.20 (All-In)

River: ($207.90) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $207.90

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Aces).
MP had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero won $277

[virx747]

Nagu paremates seebikates.

4. käsi - ei saa foldida, tal võib vabalt olla näiteks 2 paari, püüab riveril 35% panusega asja kontrolli all hoida.

[BuildUp]

Päris valusad biidi. Ma loodan, et mõni võit ka ikka veel vahele tuli. :)

[Davy]

Suhteliselt funni joonlaua hiiter ja selle kiire lõpp.

http://www.upload.ee/image/155156/hiiter.jpg

Standard FPP Pro graph ka

http://www.upload.ee/image/155157/breakevenFPP_pro.jpg

[McFoldberg]

Teine graafik on koomiline.

[Rigged]

Väga kehvasti ju mängitud hästi paljud käed, kõiki ei vaadanud, aga jah, näha on et Sul tildiga kõvad probleemid, take a break

[-andres-]

Väga kehvasti ju mängitud hästi paljud käed, kõiki ei vaadanud, aga jah, näha on et Sul tildiga kõvad probleemid, take a break

Viska näiteid, ma küll paljudes kätes suuri vigu ei leidnud :/.

[marguzz22]

Väga kehvasti ju mängitud hästi paljud käed, kõiki ei vaadanud, aga jah, näha on et Sul tildiga kõvad probleemid, take a break


wtf need viimased käed kõik 5+ mängitud

[Davy]

Väga kehvasti ju mängitud hästi paljud käed, kõiki ei vaadanud, aga jah, näha on et Sul tildiga kõvad probleemid, take a break


wtf is this shit, examples ....explain...teach me... etc ;)

[hotcocacola]

wau mis graafikud :o

[RudiTurbo]

No päris 5+ ka ei ole.

See AK käsi ja viimane 88 käsi. Kui oled skilliga dongist üle, siis milleks aina all ini laxida ja lasta kaartidel otsustada.

IN A CASH GAME, YOU CAN PICK YOUR SPOTS, DAMNIT!!!!

Ma ise ei taha ka viimasel ajal donkidele alla anda. Sest kui limiit juba ära ownitud, siis pole enam asi rahas, vaid uhkuses jne. Aga tegelikult mängin üle sedasi ja ma tean seda ise ja tunnistan, et teen vigu. BLÄT, KUST MA MINDSETI RAAMATU SAAN?

[RudiTurbo]

Näed, 100% equitiga saadakse donk ilusti all ini, millex flipata :D :D

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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) ($50)
BB ($24.55)
UTG ($68.80)
MP ($50)
CO ($73.75)
Button ($26.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2, UTG raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $9

Flop: ($29.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10.50, UTG calls $10.50

Turn: ($50.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $26 (All-In), UTG calls $26

River: ($102.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $102.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
UTG mucked Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $99.50

[H2O]

Näed, 100% equitiga saadakse donk ilusti all ini, millex flipata :D :D

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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) ($50)
BB ($24.55)
UTG ($68.80)
MP ($50)
CO ($73.75)
Button ($26.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2, UTG raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $9

Flop: ($29.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10.50, UTG calls $10.50

Turn: ($50.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $26 (All-In), UTG calls $26

River: ($102.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $102.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
UTG mucked Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $99.50




LOL!! Ei midagi muud!

[Davy]

Maailm on mul pea peale pööratud. kõige hullem NIT Nl100s on J9 omanik , double barrelib ainult nutsiga. Ja A7o omanik on kõige suurem donk NL100s just enne seda callis mu 4bet shove KQo

2+2 is 4 ...right??

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BB ($127.05)
Hero (UTG) ($216.70)
MP ($100)
CO ($165)
Button ($100)
SB ($225.30)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, CO bets $6, 2 folds, BB raises to $16, CO calls $10

Flop: ($32.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $20, CO raises to $149 (All-In), BB calls $91.05 (All-In)

Turn: ($254.60) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($254.60) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $254.60 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (high card, Queen).
CO had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: CO won $251.60

[Pahvak]

Wtf call niti poolt. :o

[Davy]

................IN YOUR FACE ..... YOU BACKDOOR FISH !

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

IN:YA:FACE (BB) ($106.90)
SB ($30.45)

Preflop: IN:YA:FACE is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
SB calls $0.50, IN:YA:FACE checks

Flop: ($2) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
IN:YA:FACE bets $1, SB calls $1

Turn: ($4) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
IN:YA:FACE bets $2.50, SB calls $2.50

River: ($9) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
IN:YA:FACE bets $6, SB raises $13, IN:YA:FACE raises $26.50, SB calls $12.95 (All-In)

Total pot: $60.90

Results:
SB had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, Jack high).
IN:YA:FACE had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (straight flush, nine high).
Outcome: IN:YA:FACE won $66.95

[pastilaa]

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs124.snc1/5331_126283517952_126282552952_2981918_7451538_n.j pg

" I'm so straight that when I bought my house...the first thing I did was brick up the back door."

[Davy]

" I'm so straight that when I bought my house...the first thing I did was brick up the back door."


"Looking at the stars in the sky makes you think about all the cute guys out there"


Hu on sick game. Pead kõik donkidele välja maksma ja kui neil on hot run, siis tahaks karjuda kellegi peale.

Hääletult karjusin monitorisse :)

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

I play vs B.Stintson (SB) ($185.05)
BB ($180.25)

Preflop: I play vs B.Stintson is SB with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
I play vs B.Stintson bets $2.50, BB raises $9, I play vs B.Stintson calls $7

Flop: ($20) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, I play vs B.Stintson checks

Turn: ($20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, I play vs B.Stintson bets $13, BB raises $28, I play vs B.Stintson calls $15

River: ($76) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $142.25 (All-In), I play vs B.Stintson calls $142.25

Total pot: $360.50

Results:
I play vs B.Stintson had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and sevens).
BB had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: BB won $360


Õnneks ta tahtis kõrgemal mängida ja seal saime 70 kätt mängitud, kui tuli see käsi. Kas nüüd ülevaloleva käe call on call või snapcall :P
No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

I play vs B.Stintson (BB) ($332.05)
SB ($185)

Preflop: I play vs B.Stintson is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
SB bets $5, I play vs B.Stintson raises $16, SB calls $12

Flop: ($36) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
I play vs B.Stintson checks, SB checks

Turn: ($36) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
I play vs B.Stintson bets $23, SB calls $23

River: ($82) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
I play vs B.Stintson checks, SB bets $144 (All-In), I play vs B.Stintson calls $144

Total pot: $370

Results:
SB had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (high card, Jack).
I play vs B.Stintson had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: I play vs B.Stintson won $369.50

[Davy]

Pokkerialane ülessanne teile, kas leiate põhjuse, miks see misclick 100 taalane misclick on :P

10 inimest oli waitinglistis , jätsin filmivaatamise pooleli, kui see laud poole filmi pealt selle seatiga ette hüppas :)

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BB ($223.60)
Hero (UTG) ($175.80)
MP ($166.75)
CO ($89.50)
Button ($114.65)
SB ($220.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
Hero bets $10, 3 folds, SB calls $9.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($21) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($21) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero folds

Total pot: $21 | Rake: $1.05

Results:
SB didn't show
Outcome: SB won $19.95

[Davy]

peale tunniajalist mängimist ta just openfoldis oma esimese käe pre :)

[Davy]

Lol bad beat regile


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Button ($100)
Hero (SB) ($319.90)
BB ($258.65)
UTG ($280.70)
MP ($112.20)
CO ($71.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, CO checks, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($2) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2, CO calls $2, Hero folds

Turn: ($6) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, CO bets $3, BB calls $3

River: ($12) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, CO bets $8, BB calls $8

Total pot: $28 | Rake: $1.40

Results:
BB mucked 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, twos).
CO had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, twos).
Outcome: CO won $28.10

[Davy]

Fish busto, huvitav 1 tabling sess, suuremates kaotatud kätes polnud eriti midagi teha. Puhtalt readide põhjal mäng ja mängiks samamoodi uuesti. Lõpetasin ~ 510 stackiga.

http://www.upload.ee/image/159414/1table1.jpg

[Davy]

i sakk

kui fish turnis ennast oesdiga peaaegu all inni callis (mul low rida) ja riverisse oma kolmeouterise hittis, siis pidin ikka chatboxi "omg" risustama, nii et ta leidis põhjuse minema minna .


Shame on me

[ranka]

i sakk

kui fish turnis ennast oesdiga peaaegu all inni callis (mul low rida) ja riverisse oma kolmeouterise hittis, siis pidin ikka chatboxi "omg" risustama, nii et ta leidis põhjuse minema minna .


Shame on me


To: support@pokerstars.com
Body:
Hi,

Please block my chat permanently!

Regards,
Taavi

[hotcocacola]

To: support@pokerstars.com
Body:
Hi,

Please block my chat permanently!

Regards,
Taavi




rohvel ;D

[Davy]

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cooler cooler suckout

gl to everyone who hasnt yet run like that. 82k hands of insane pornography.
Today was a good day, played with a maniac, with whom if you played a hand you are often going to have to call off all your chips to see a showdown. It`s awesome i thought when i had my read on him set, that he bets with air or nuts 3 street, with marginal holdings he takes sd lines. So i played some pots with him, obviously he played every hand. First hand called of a river shove w 99 on A47A2 board with him having AK, immediately ater that hand i got TT and called of a river shove on QQ558board with him having QK. 2 or three hands later i called of a river shove with QK on Q2457 3flush board with him having the nut flush. Few hands later i called of a river shove with KK on Q 2463 with him having 58 for a backdoor straight. I thought perhaps I might be running bad, but calmed myself down "man u have run a lot worse ..."

Those of you who are wondering why i called down. Oh and please ruditurbo no comments needed from you that you have to have utter nuts to call down a fish.
vs 100% range which polarizes its bets to air or nuts, on the river i generaly need 2:1 odds(need to be good 33% of times) to break even
99 on A45A2 board is a stunning 3:1 favorite
TT on QQ558 board is a stunning 4,5:1 favorite
QK on Q2457 3 flush board is a stunning 5:1 favorite
KK on Q2463 (sets and straights )board is a 1,5:1 favorite


But i can honestly say that this limit is a easy limit if ur not running like a garbage bag in the wind on a rainy day.

http://www.upload.ee/image/169562/100nl11.jpg

Good players at NL100 6max:
MidnightTokr: 4,3ptbb 300k hands excellent at exploiting fish, super loose running like 32/27. Bounces on weak tight regs, then again against good players is way too spewy. He is the one player who bluffs fish a lot, isolates fish about 50% of his range, those who want to 3bet him keep in mind that he is going to put you all in pre or post if ur frequences are getting too high, best way to exploit him is keeping a loose-agressive image and let him do the bluffing.....but ... he has bumhunting tendencies so probably ur not going to play him a lot. If someone would ask me how i would characterize him, i would probably have to say that he is a somewhat smart maniac who picks his spots and opponents. That said i have to say that his style works best in NL100, at NL200 he is going to run into trouble because at NL200 he is going to run into players who can adjust to his agression ....he is still winning there in my opinion but if he doesnt tone down his agression he is a marginal winner there.

Into2ndwind:3,1ptbb 250k hands: Not so good on bouncing on weak tight regs, but in his play you can see some sophisticated range based thinking and taking lines that exploits his opponent best, he has less leaks than MidnighTokr and he is more ready to win at NL200 and perhaps at NL400 even. Running like 23/19 his only leaks are from my limited playing time with him 3betting too few so unbalanced to value and his flop agression is also unbalanced to value. Tough opponent to play against compared to other NL100 regs but still nothing special.

element 64: 3,8ptbb 300k hands best overall player at NL100, real pain in the ass to play against. Wierd for me that he is still playing NL100, he is 3betting and 4bettind and raising flops and turns just that much that he really **** you on a really tough decisions that you are not prepared for. Havent found any leaks in his game from my the realtive short history with him. Perhaps flatting my btn 4bet from sb w QKo but then again he got my stack, because i didn`t think that he is capable of doing that. But i have to say that he is the one player at NL100 which im 100% certainly -EV longterm at this point in time with my pokergame, he is the jrockhaf of nl100 6max, probably better actually.

Good players that i dont have much history on: bw07507, RAYBOX111 (he probably is a bumhunter though but has some tricks in his sleeve for weak tight players) and some more, some of them even very good but i cant remember their nicks.

The rest are pretty much ABC type players with limited thinking ability, some better than other. Easy to exploit , i would manage it myself if i wouldnt nonstop run into very top of their range. Some of them are 2ptbb winners , some of them -0,5pt losers.

Anyway why did i write this? Had to get my mind of my resent results it tilts me just to think about it. I utterly love this game when im running ok, obviusly would like to have sex with it when im running good, but now this game is difficult to deal with mentally. When i left tables i opened up this post window and beat the hell out of my keyboard, which i dont do often at all if ever, I`m actually relatively calm and not awesome but still reasonably good of controlling my emotions (im "the rock" in real life when it comes to relationships for example). But instead of posting my tilt post i decided to delete it and put some info into it instead, to keep my mind occupied. Oh and im using english because poker talk in general is better to write and read in english.

Its been a long time when i wrote a reasonably long post related to poker so i just might ramble on some more.

Perhaps i´m going to talk about developing your poker skill. This is the part of this game which i love, because actually there is so much skill involved in this game that it`s your improvement potentional is limitless, developing your poker game is way harder than to develope the skills needed to crush opponents in some other type of game. Poker is actually a game of "flow of emotional mathematics". Let me explain it to you, this is going to be a bit long explanation and touches definately some other aspects of poker game, so bare with me. When you start out you are going to learn the very basic mathematical part of the game. Like i often do i flop a set and against what range im going to make a profitable call preflop. At this stage you are going to link these mathematical parts of the game together and probably make a decent money from the very micro stakes. As time goes on you are starting to adjust to your opponents who are very level 1 and are playing their cards, now you are adding a another depth to your game you are starting to learn frequencies consept. At this stage u are probably at NL10 or NL25 and the frequencies that you have to deal with are very unbalanced to strong holdings, but still you learn that many opponents define their hand strenght on the river and you can make a decision based on your opponent hand strenght to fold call or raise, so you are just not playing your cards anymore you are starting to think about his hand too based on your opponent frequencies. This port of the game is a lot to learn for all your holdings in your hand distribution, so if you are not super talented that some of us are(not me though) this is going to take some time. And i would like to point out that this is where a lot of players get stuck, they perhaps can beat NL100 for minimum amount of money or if they are bumhunters they maybe can be somewhat solid winners at NL100 but probably they are running into trouble at NL50 already.
But the problem is that they cant take the leap forward to think what my opponent thinks i have. So every day, as the average skill level rises when moving up in the stakes, they are playing opponents who think the same way about the game, they are basically exchanging chips whoever has the boomswitch turned on. "Oh thats so standard" and player forgets about this hand and moves on. Exchanging coolers between the same game level opponents can leave you with a sensation that I`m just running bad and vice versa. Even more dangerous is when you are running good and cooler people left and right, you might start to think that you have this game figured out and from now on you are going to make decent money. Wrong! Exchanging coolers is a natural part of the game and there is no money in that. Most of the money comes from fish, dont forget that, but the thing is if you dont improve your poker game enough you cant go up in stakes to exploit fishes who are playing there, because if you do you are now a fish for regs at that stake and you are bleeding money way more quickly to those regs that you make up from utter fish.
Moving on to the next level(level3) "what my opponent thinks I have based on my frequencies". Mastering this part of the game pretty much moves you up to NL1k and your a winner there, so basically this is one of the hardest part of poker skill to develop. This is exploiting level 2 thinkers. I`m going to make a simple example for you. Althouh its simple this probably plugs up huge leaks in you game for many of you, so it`s imortant that you read this.
Question "in a 6max game if i open up cutoff with 25%(this is pretty standard for better players in a 6max game) of my range and i 4bet and get it in with QQ+ and AK how much can button 3bet me to it to be unexploitable assuming the blinds fold every time".
Answer: "100%, because you fold 9 out of 10"
Question:"OK , if i 4bet and get it in with 99+ and AQ+"
Answer: "100% , you fold 4 out of 5"
Question:"OK, lets say i get it in with 88+ and AQ+, but i bluff 4bet with 5% of my range and he gets it in with JJ+ and AK"
Answer: "100%, he almost breaks even from you folding and if he calls with that range you have 41% equity"
Question: "So lets assume i 4bet every time and call of with JJ+ and AQ, what then?"
Answer:" 3% only his value range"
Question:" stop it! give me some guidelines then!"
Answer:" lets solve a equation here"
EQ when i call with tt+ and AQ and he shoves jj+and AK = 42,6% on average if we get it in with that range i lose -14,8bb
TT+ AQ+=4,7%
JJ+ AK = 3,0%
So he can lose -14,8bb in preflop, that means before he starts even losing preflop i have to 4bet more than 33% of the time i open cutoff, basically it means that i have to be 4bet bluffing more than half of the time from stopping him 3betting me every hand . But that again means that when i do 4bet bluff im going to fold 2/3rds of the time to 5bet shove. The times i fold to 4bet shove he wins 3+1,5+22=26,5 bb
So half of the time im going to call and half of the time fold, so his EV of shoving with JJ+and AK is =[(14,8)*1+(26,5)*2]/3= 22,6bb
So he can lose preflop 22,6bb to break even on his 3b. I 4bet half of the time and fold the rest. If i fold he wins 4,5bb and if i 4bet he loses 10. On average when he 3bet bluffs he loses 5,5bb. 22,6/5,5= 4,1
So to break even he can 3bet 3*4,1=12,3% of his button when i 4bet half of the time and get it in with TT+ and AQ. Obviously we can take this next step further and end that these players get all in every hand, but for now lets leave at that.

Ok this is all nice and all but lets move to everyday situation, at what point is 4bet bluffing starting to have more than 0 EV. When opponent gets it in with QQ+ and AK(2,5%) you can start 4bet bluffing him when he 3bets at least 8%.Under that you are better off just folding every hand besides QQ+ and AK.

So why did i made this example? Because this can plug some leaks in your game when your starting to play better opponents. 5 or 6% 3bet is actually a decent leak if you want to play a 3bet 4bet 5bet game. Because you are not going to get any action on your big hands vs decent opponents and if they do 4bet you, you might be making a mistake calling it of a bit too light. So here is first step of making your opponent think that you have junk all the time and if he is not too good he is very likely going to make a mistake of fighting back too frequently. And honestly most NL100 regs even havent figured out how to play this 3bet4bet5bet game efficently. So you can expand this concept to your postflop game also, are you check raising enough are you barreling enough to justify a lighter calldown against you. This is what good poker is all about, figuring out opponent frequencies and putting thoughts in their heads.

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anyway my tilt has faded now and perhaps im going to continue my explanation some other time,still lot to talk about ...

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gl at the tables

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4 me too please !!!

[pikk28]

just wow. respect.

[Pahvak]

Hea meelega loeks veel selliseid üllitisi tulevikus. ;)

[Rage]

ma loen seda üllitist ja mõtlen... et kui palju mul veel õppida on.. ja siis mõtlen.. kas ma ikka jaksan kõike seda ära õppida tulevikus..

[pikk28]

ma loen seda üllitist ja mõtlen... et kui palju mul veel õppida on.. ja siis mõtlen.. kas ma ikka jaksan kõike seda ära õppida tulevikus..

samad mõtted siin.

[Davy]

3bet näite kohta, enne NL200 selle peale ei ole vaja mõelda (ise väga palju vigu teinud minevikus, et lugenud teatud kontsepte, mida tuleb kõrgemal limiidis teha ja siis seda proovinud enda mängu sisestada, aga väiksematel limiitidel ei ole "balance" peale vaja isegi mõelda, playing exploitably is the highest EV there). Vastased lihtsalt ei ole piisavalt head enamasti ja paljude vastu on optimaalne 3-4%, sest nad on niikuinii spewtardid. Usun, et pole pikalt vaja seletada, sellised teemad kerkivad päevakorrale alates NL100+.

[pastilaa]

Mother of all posts!

[tdx]

mängin momendil eksperimendi korras FTP NL50s (muidu prima NL100) ja kõige suuremad vead mida regularid teevad on:

- PFR on 18%+, aga folditakse 3betile 80%+
- need kelle 3bet % on 9+, instafoldivad 4betile praktiliselt 95%
- 3bet/4bet sizingud

S.t et Hero ise 3betib any2 IP ja bluff-4betib nagu loom, sest et keegi ei adjusti. Table selectima ka ei pea, sest et see toimib igas lauas.

Anyway, NL100s on yldiselt vaja hakata high-variance liine võtma ja käed tunduvad iseenesest ok olevat, aga sa ei saa ikkagi väita, et sa totaalselt random käe vastu riveril oled. Jah, ta shoved on seal polariseeritud, aga siiski mingis suunas kaalutud (i.e 60% nuts, 40% air).

[vennike]

oi.. ilus post :) kui tohib kysida, siis kust sa nii ilusa inglise keele omale said ? inglise filoloogiat õppinud ? Mul hakkavad vead suht kergesti silma, aga su postis polnud peale paari näpuka midagi.

[McFoldberg]

Without any doubt the best post in this forum.

[Davy]

mängin momendil eksperimendi korras FTP NL50s (muidu prima NL100) ja kõige suuremad vead mida regularid teevad on:

- PFR on 18%+, aga folditakse 3betile 80%+
- need kelle 3bet % on 9+, instafoldivad 4betile praktiliselt 95%
- 3bet/4bet sizingud

S.t et Hero ise 3betib any2 IP ja bluff-4betib nagu loom, sest et keegi ei adjusti. Table selectima ka ei pea, sest et see toimib igas lauas.

Anyway, NL100s on yldiselt vaja hakata high-variance liine võtma ja käed tunduvad iseenesest ok olevat, aga sa ei saa ikkagi väita, et sa totaalselt random käe vastu riveril oled. Jah, ta shoved on seal polariseeritud, aga siiski mingis suunas kaalutud (i.e 60% nuts, 40% air).


This guy was insane... nagu näed see gutshot hit riveril, mis viimane käsi oli, see et ma teda 3x järjest ai callisin, ei huvitanud teda ,et pool stacki 8 highga sisse panna. Obv bustos ka üsna kiirelt peale seda hot runni, muidugi regularidele, kes ootasid häid käsi, mitte minusugusestele mankisid , kes üritavad light valuet saada . Antud case puhul ma isegi usun et ta range on close to random hand..... just see viimane 58hand, tüüp ei adjustinud ja imo sellised maniakid ei adjusti minutitega vaid neil võtab ikka tükk aega , et aru saada, et FE pole.



oi.. ilus post :) kui tohib kysida, siis kust sa nii ilusa inglise keele omale said ? inglise filoloogiat õppinud ? Mul hakkavad vead suht kergesti silma, aga su postis polnud peale paari näpuka midagi.


Ei "kahjuks" tavaline tehnikaülikooli tudeng.

[Davy]

One intresting hand occured that i want to share with you.

Mentioned in the long post as one of the decent players at nl100 into2ndwind was the villain in this hand.

History : every hand i played against him i took unorthodox lines just to mess with his head, it had been working out pretty well, I was up like a buyin and a half with him. I have overbet twice before and he had folded once, second time i overbet raise his flop bet and I folded to a shove w tpgk, he told me he had 2p then.

Before this hand we played a hand where i had AK and played it super passively oop when i had tptk on K J T 7 5 board I check flop he checked it back, I call turn and "donk" minbet river and he called with J9. Talked a bit in chat and i said that it was a balance hand for my range when i want to get to showdown cheaply(these minbets i`ve made with very weak holdings before and he had called them with worse).

So as we went into this hand we had a history of agressive unorthodox lines going on.

So I raise 3bb BTN with A :club: Q :club:
he calls from SB
Flop(7,5bb) comes :9 :club: 3 :spade: 4 :heart:
He check i check back
Turn(7,5bb) : 4 :heart:
He bets $4
I call
River(15,5bb): Q :spade:
he bets $4

So what goes through my head, I know that my opponent isn`t just clicking buttons he has a decent though process involved in his decisions. Since i know that my opponent is pretty good and previous hand i was involved at with him, i took similar line with very strong hand, and after i took that line we talked in chat and i can be 100% sure in this spot that he knows that this betsizing for me can mean a very strong holding that is trying to induce... but the problem is i dont really know which level my opponent is on.
Levels:
Level 1) my opponent is just playing his cards and he has a pair of 66-s here. [weak hand]
Level 2) my opponent just doesnt consider our history and his trying to induce with this bet.[strong hand]
Level 3) my opponent is very aware of our history and in his mind this line looks super strong for me.[weak hand]
Level 4) my opponent knows that i should think, that considering our history, this line is a bad line to take with a strong holding because i know it can be for value[strong hand]

So before i give you the results... what do you think about the hand in general and on which level you would put a decent winning NL100 reg on?

[levis]

Mis lood selle ing.keelega on?

[Davy]

Mis lood selle ing.keelega on?


Sorry sir... lihtsalt arvan, et pokkerialane tekst on parem loetav kui ka kirjutatav inglise keeles(ei pea segakeelt harrastama).

[alaska]

Ma pakun ikkagi level3. Kui sina mõtled samal levelil siis ta saab tugevama käe foldima, kui ei mõtle, ei kaota ta palju. Kui ta mõtleks level4, siis ta võiks võtta suurema valuega liini ja teie eelnevale historile tuginedes saada sind halvema käega kaasa.

[tdx]

Raiseks riveri suurelt, repiks bluffi. Palju nõrgemaid käsi callib ka. Shove peale peaks ilmselt foldima, kuigi reaalselt tal saab 33 siin ainult olla.

[farik666]

Mis lood selle ing.keelega on?


mul üks sõber räägib siis kogu aeg inglise keeles kui üli purjus on..

[Davy]

Raiseks riveri suurelt, repiks bluffi. Palju nõrgemaid käsi callib ka. Shove peale peaks ilmselt foldima, kuigi reaalselt tal saab 33 siin ainult olla.


So I raise 3bb BTN with A :club: Q :club:
he calls from SB
Flop(7,5bb) comes :9 :club: 3 :spade: 4 :heart:
He check i check back
Turn(7,5bb) : 4 :heart:
He bets $4
I call
River(15,5bb): Q :spade:
he bets $4
hero raises to $46
villain shoves and shows 44


rääkisime hiljem sellest käest ja tuleb välja , et ma annan liiga palju respekti nl100 mängijatele.

õige vastus : Level 2

[Tuul]

äkki level 4 või 6

[Davy]

Vaatasin just roundersit.

Viimases HU cashgames: esimene käsi , mõlemad 200bb deep.

Damon arvab , et jube hea on kohe KK ga räme overbet teha ehk raise to 20bb (eriti veel peale seda kui KGB vastu filmi alguses overbet oli nuts...ok 2nd nuts)
KGB arvab, et jube hea spot damoni rämedale overbetile 3bet to 100bb ja fold to shove teha.

Diilitakse käsi, damon peaks vist BB olema , aga ikka ta midagi pomiseb seal esimesena ja KGB otsustab siis oma SB completeda.
Flopil siis pot 2bb 67Tr , damon checkib KGB arvab, et hea koht limped potis 20bb bet 2bb potti teha, Damon callib.
Turn offsuit 2 r, KGB arvab, et jube hea spot pot size bet teha rämedal brickil ...44bb , damon call
River A (monster brick) ja peale seda kui damon 2 tänavat on imeoverbette jms callinud väga dry boardil, arvab KGB , et see A on hea kaart üks overbet allin bluff teha.


lol @ movie donkaments.

[EGERT]

Hah, irv.

Pole kunagi märgandki selle stseeni betsizingut ;D

[Dogers]

Davy, kust filmi said, tahaks ka, kui mingi kiire DL-ga sait.

[Lutzky]

Davy, kust filmi said, tahaks ka, kui mingi kiire DL-ga sait.


ma tean kohta, aga kuna PARIM ja kiireim sait, siis you know what I mean. Pm kui huvi on.

[Dogers]

Aa, sain juba, torrentleechis olemas, ty enivei, pmst film mida kuskil ei ole on Deal, kui keegi teab üldse sellist, seda filmi tahaks küll. :)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446676/

Kunagi vaatasin, suht mõnus vaatamine, aga jäi vanasse arvutisse.

[Davy]

Aa, sain juba, torrentleechis olemas, ty enivei, pmst film mida kuskil ei ole on Deal, kui keegi teab üldse sellist, seda filmi tahaks küll. :)


noob


kui ise ei tea, siis googel teab...

[Dogers]

Google annab mingi max 100kb/s linke, takes ages. :D

[Davy]

Got myself a RSA token, i feel safer than this dude ...

http://www.youtube.com/v/xC03hmS1Brk&hl=en&fs=1&

[lenC]

jon lajoie on kuldne vend raisk

[Staier]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446676/

Kunagi vaatasin, suht mõnus vaatamine, aga jäi vanasse arvutisse.



Tundub päris kuldne film olevat :)

[2ssapaar]

Damon ikka räme fish jah
Läheb kogu bankrolliga hittima ja kaotab kõik. talk about bankroll management :D

Eriti hea koht kus ta ütleb "I raise all in because I don't think you have the spades" vms :D

[McFoldberg]

Ise olin ka veits pettunud, kui Roundersit vaatasin. Seda oli nii palju kiidetud ja värki, et mõtlesin, et tuleb midagi tõsiselt head...
Aga Norton oli vähemalt tasemel nagu alati.

[Davy]

Ise olin ka veits pettunud, kui Roundersit vaatasin. Seda oli nii palju kiidetud ja värki, et mõtlesin, et tuleb midagi tõsiselt head...
Aga Norton oli vähemalt tasemel nagu alati.


Mul läks kuu aega, et film otsast lõpuni vaadata :-[

[pastilaa]

Rounders - kinematograafiline p*sk. tühi ja logisev film. Rõõm oli lihtsalt näha seda konteksti, pokkeri "õiget" alget, mingilgi määral autentse peegeldusena. Loodan, et teemaomanik ei pane pahaks selliseid poste isiklikus teemas.

[Davy]

Poker Table rating hot or not :0 !

Iga kuu saab ikka korra 0-s ära käia.

Välja näeb see nii:

http://www.upload.ee/image/240316/soliidnennn.jpg

WSWSF on soliidne 35
WSSD ka soliidne 35

Basically LAG vs 12tabling abc tags+fishes, võite ette kujutada kuidas nad hittida suudavad...

Ok 1-3 suuremat dowswingi on ok 3-4 kuu peale, aga runnida täpselt 50% ajast nii....see on sick.

[lenn17]

Aiii kui valusad need langused alati on. Hea et EV veel õrrituseks plussi peal ei ole.

[Davy]

Aiii kui valusad need langused alati on. Hea et EV veel õrrituseks plussi peal ei ole.


Ev selle swingi ajal ei olegi kõige suurem näitaja, natuke suckoute küll, aga enamus kaotustest on "standard all ins", pre qq+ kohtub KK+, KK kohtub AA ja AK-ga mis oma A le pihta saab, setid kohtuvad ridade jne jne jne ja nii nonstop täpselt 50% minu mänguajast Nl100-s...oksele hakkab juba ajama.

[leits]

Tho 11k kött ei ole veel v2ga hull ... lootust on et paranema ta hakkab :=)

[Davy]

Tho 11k kött ei ole veel v2ga hull ... lootust on et paranema ta hakkab :=)

dude , its 160k out of 330k

[Davy]

tuleb lihtsalt leppida sellega, et olen station fish kellel blue ja red line koos alla lähevad. Kui laudadesse astun, siis waiting list läheb suureks kohe.

[BuildUp]

seems really frustrating... :-\

[CTXrix]

Davy, mis uudist?

[Davy]

Nii täna selline huvitav situatsioon, kus vist skillelementi pokkerimängus ei ole või olge teie kohtunikud.

Carbon pokeri $109 50k quaranteed 13k overlay. Nii freaking soft turna, et 100 kohta enne bubblet panin kõik teised asjad kinni, et halbade mängijate kohta readid paika saada.

30 kohta enne bubblet või nii, istun ilusa 25-30bb stacki otsas ja readid on paigas...ja siis enam ei tulnud enam top 33% kaarte enam ligi tund aega järjest.

Surin lõpuks 3 kohta enne bubblet 1,5bb-ga kui sain 33 ja vastane riverdas endale flushi.

MTT mehed...., kui stack vajub alla 7bb vms, kas siis tuleks mingi hetk üle vastase raise lükata 94s-ga? Või siis EP Q2o? Isegi üks steal moment avanes , kui mul oli 6bb stack ja ma olin btn 32o-ga, kas siis oleks pidanud pushima?

Mingil hetkel on 20% equitiga gamble õigustatud või ei ?

Ainuke tegelik küsimus on kas 32o peaks btn pushima 6bb, kui bb on suhteliselt loose? Kõik teised situatsioonid olid nii 20%-25% equity situatsioonid, kus raise ees ja mul käes 93o.

[Davy]

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[lenC]

hea lugu, sinu viimane comeback oleks võinud kuidagi kõvem olla tho

[pastilaa]

Kuni selle lauseni / "Aaa, no see ei ole nii muljetavaldav skoor kui sa eelmine kord siin üle saja viskasid" / tundus kõik arusaadav, aga puänt ei jõudnud pärale...

[Lutzky]

magister vastab:
puhas kuld olukord ja ma eeldan, et oleks samamoodi teinud. karistus biatchile jama ajamise eest.

[Davy]

Kuni selle lauseni / "Aaa, no see ei ole nii muljetavaldav skoor kui sa eelmine kord siin üle saja viskasid" / tundus kõik arusaadav, aga puänt ei jõudnud pärale...


Imelik, et sa aru ei saa... ilmselge, et antud naisterahvas oli oma ammuse mehega seal ja tal oli täiesti piinlik olukord nähes mind. Kui nüüd ka püandist aru ei saa, siis on imelik.

Ta on oma mehega mitu aastat koos olunud ja järsku ilmub mingi tegelane välja, kes mianib , et eeelmine kord kui siin olime oli päris mõnus olla.

[Davy]

hea lugu, sinu viimane comeback oleks võinud kuidagi kõvem olla tho


viimane comeback....plz explain

[vennike]

natsa labasem oleks võinud olla lõpus.

[pastilaa]

Imelik, et sa aru ei saa... ilmselge, et antud naisterahvas oli oma ammuse mehega seal ja tal oli täiesti piinlik olukord nähes mind. Kui nüüd ka püandist aru ei saa, siis on imelik.

Ta on oma mehega mitu aastat koos olunud ja järsku ilmub mingi tegelane välja, kes mianib , et eeelmine kord kui siin olime oli päris mõnus olla.


Selge - mul jäi arusaamatuks see, et füüsilise mõnu nautija ka seda kuulis. Vägev muidugi sel juhul. Aga labasem oleksid võinud olla tõesti. A la "Ja peale strike veel mudisime teineteist".

[mkva]

Ma oleks ikka no ma ei tea krt ma no ei nofakkkkkkk! Ma ei tea mis ma oleks teinud. See mis sa tegid ka päris hea, aga ma oleks krt ausalt räigelt labast pannud, nii et eit oleks veel 2 päeva tomat näost olnud....


DAMMMMMMMMMM faking pitsid sellised.

tilt:)

[Pahvak]

Kiidan loo heaks. Naine oleks võinud mõelda, et mehe mudimine äratab sinus kahtlust. Sellised need level 1 mõtlejad on...

[BuildUp]

Kiidan loo heaks. Naine oleks võinud mõelda, et mehe mudimine äratab sinus kahtlust. Sellised need level 1 mõtlejad on...


+1

Jumala imelik, aga viimasel ajal olen ise olnud ja kuulnud nii mööda olukordi seoses naistega, et suht sick.

Sellepärast olekski ideaalne variant see, et sul on tohhuijaa sõbrannasid ja ei süvene(armu) mitte ühtegi ja võtad kõiki nagu lõbustust.

Like Playa4Life! ;)

[Pumper]

Selle blogi lõpp on üks müstilisemaid siin foorumis, terve blogi on juttu pokkerist jne ja siis äkki aetakse mingist bitshist juttu, aga millisest, kust see tuli? Või on tegemist mingi kõrgema pokkeriteemalise jutuga? Või on mõni post deletetud?

[Davy]

Selle blogi lõpp on üks müstilisemaid siin foorumis, terve blogi on juttu pokkerist jne ja siis äkki aetakse mingist bitshist juttu, aga millisest, kust see tuli? Või on tegemist mingi kõrgema pokkeriteemalise jutuga? Või on mõni post deletetud?


Ma üritasin hommikul konditsioonis ühte eilset posti editida...peaks mainima et üsnagi edutult

[Davy]

Nii viimased kolm kuud ei ole tulemusi olnud ja kuigi peale igat sessiooni replayeris käsi vaadates tundub endale , et lihtsalt jooks ei ole hea, tuleb siiski peale 260k kätt tunnistada, et asi on kahtlane ja enne kui rõõmsalt edasi lasta tuleks saada ka väljaspoolt kinnitust, et asi kas on jooksus või kehvades oskustes. Probleem on hetkel selles, et äkki ma ei tunnista endale, et mängin halvast. Igatahes isegi peale seda 3 kuud on enesekindlus äärmiselt tugev, et tean väga täpselt mida laudades teen. Võibolla selles ongi probleem .

Seetõttu peale igat suuremat sessiooni postitan käed oma mõtteprotsessiga ja võitvad mängijad NL50+ võiksid oma arvamust avaldada.

Viimased 3 kuud siis.

http://www.upload.ee/image/379015/last3_months.jpg



Tänane sessioon 1,3 kätt ja juhtusid siis järgnevad huvitavamad käed:
Sessioon mängitud stiilis 28/23/agg 2,5 /5,5 3bet WTSD 21 ...WSSD 52 ... WSWSF 48 ....flop/turn/riv cbet 77/50/40

http://www.upload.ee/image/379022/2veeb.JPG


1) vastaseks oli tol hetkel 50kätt sample 40/35/12% 3bet ja ma olin buttonit eelnevate orbiiti jooksul juba mõni kord 3bettinud....utg limper oli 90/x fish
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) ($226.75)
BB ($125.95)
UTG ($116.45)
Button ($110.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
UTG calls $1, Button bets $4, Hero raises $13, BB raises $33, 2 folds, Hero raises $213.25 (All-In), BB calls $91.95 (All-In)

Flop: ($256.90) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($256.90) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($256.90) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $256.90

Results below:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Queens).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: BB won $254.90


2) vs 27/23/30aff 3l tänaval võrdselt Antud vastast olin pidevalt ahistanud, 3bettinud jne, ka eelmises käes 3bettisin teda. Tema btn pfr on 70+, kogemata preflop flattisin ja seetõttu sellisel flopil on mu käsi üsna hea, et bluf-raiseda, kuna siin antud vastasega üsna hea leveling war oli käimas ja ma ei usu, et ta A high foldib...dünaamika vähemalt peaks olema selline...(3s käsi näitab, milline dünaamika meil käis), kuna ta ei foldi A high, siis tõenäoliselt saan valuet, kui A hitib turni või riverisse. Turn on suht icky spot.... minu mõtlemine oli selline, et kui ta airiga floatis, siis ta stabib nüüd seda kaarti ja isegi kui tal käsi, siis mul on 10 outi, mida antud vastane uuesti tõenäoliselt blufib. River on nüüd veel imelikum, kuna ta overbet shoves, mis tekitab minus tahtmise foldida, aga kuna turn sai callitud, siis sellise scarecard agro dünaamika, mis meil käis arvasin, et täiesti vabalt võib ta siin mind Tx foldima tahta saada. Teie otsustada, mis te sellest käest arvate.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($124.10)
SB ($79.50)
Hero (BB) ($126.50)
UTG ($101.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, Button bets $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5, Hero raises $14, Button calls $9

Turn: ($34.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $19, Hero calls $19

River: ($72.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $88.10 (All-In), Hero calls $88.10

Total pot: $248.70

Results below:
Button had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, fours).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and fours).
Outcome: Button won $246.70



3) Jälle sama vastase vastu... jälle mõtlemine, et ta ei foldi minu vastu midagi.... river on shady võibolla, aga ta range peaks olema üsna Ax and Tx heavy...

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($100.50)
Hero (BB) ($234.50)
UTG ($100)
MP ($127.50)
Button ($151.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
3 folds, SB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($8) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises $15, SB calls $10

Turn: ($38) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24

River: ($86) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $78, SB calls $57.50 (All-In)

Total pot: $201

Results below:
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (straight, Ace high).
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and tens).
Outcome: SB won $199


4. 30/27/12bet 12 sq, kui nägin btn fishi callimas, siis võisin vanduda , et sellelt tüübilt tuleb squeeze, aga kui ta min5bettis tekib soov oma AK foldida, aga mõtlesin, et kuigi 90% NL100-200 regidel on seal AA, siis antud agro maniak regil võib olla see leveling play.


No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($15.90)
Button ($107.30)
SB ($104)
BB ($149.85)
UTG ($148.75)
Hero (MP) ($122.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $3, CO calls $3, Button calls $3, 1 fold, BB raises $14, Hero raises $37, 2 folds, BB raises $63, Hero raises $82.95 (All-In), BB calls $44.95

Flop: ($252.40) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($252.40) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($252.40) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $252.40

Results below:
BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Aces).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: BB won $249.40


5)VS huge fish, flopil raisesin fishi betti, et teised 2 regi välja saada ja sealt siis edasi vaadata, antud fishi range selle beti puhul on meeletu


No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($100)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($253.40)
BB ($122.80)
UTG ($101.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
UTG bets $4, MP (poster) calls $3, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $2, Hero raises $10, 2 folds, MP calls $8

Turn: ($36.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
MP bets $12, Hero raises $29, MP calls $17

River: ($94.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP bets $20, Hero raises $57 (All-In), MP calls $37 (All-In)

Total pot: $208.50

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, sevens).
MP had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, eights over sevens).
Outcome: MP won $206.50

[ranka]

Tundub, et flippad liialt ja bluffid sitalt. Neljanda käe bluff on suitsiid, teises käes semi-bluff juab puhas idiootne. Võiks olla miski BD masti-tõmme, ülekaardid/BD gutter on nats pask, eriti kui mastitõmme maas, sest sul ei ole clean oute.

[Davy]

Ajasid äkki Fr ranged 6 maxi omaga sassi ?

[tdx]

Olen su mängu veits PTRist chekkinud ja on ka mõningane psyholoogiline pilt sinust tekkinud. Ka need käed mis sa siia postitasid kinnitavad seda mingil määral. Tundub, et oled keskmisest tugevama egoga (ei ole iseenesest halb) ja seetõttu on sinu jaoks foldimine raskem kui raisemine (tavalise inimese jaoks on see just vastupidi). Ehk, selle asemel, et teha EV-neutraalne otsus ja foldida, jääd sa pot-stuck ja teed slightly EV-negatiivse blufi, mis 200K käe peale annab juba korralikult tunda.

Lisaks tundud blindidest väga paranoiline olema ja mängid 99-JJ tüüpi käsi sealt preflop ülikiirelt. Ma arvan, et kuni NL100 on JJ setmine rohkem EV kui getitin preflop, kuna 90% mängijatest ei jälgi su imaget. Lisaks kas mul on õigus kui ma väidan, et blindidest (ehk OOP) kaotad sa 200K käe peale rohkem kui peaks? (satud tihti 3bet potti ja oled OOP vs wide range & semi-competent villain).

See ka veel, et isegi kui sa ise loed vastast hästi ja suudad ta kitsa range peale panna ja tead, et ta peab su surve peale foldima (kuna see oleks pokkeriteooria järgi korrektne samm), siis tihti villain seda ei tee, kuna tema mäng on kaugel täiuslikkusest... ühesõnaga see vist tähendab seda, et su blufi fold equity on tihti väiksem kui sa tegelikult arvad.

Loodan, et sa ei võta midagi isiklikult, lihtsalt kõrvaltvaataja pilk.

[lebovend]

Väga hea postitus tdxi poolt.
davy, loodan, et suudad mängu parandada ja saad asjad jooksma ikka.

[ranka]

Ajasid äkki Fr ranged 6 maxi omaga sassi ?


Eip

[RudiTurbo]

tdx'ilt väga hea kirjeldus :)

Ja lisaks ka palju ülemõtlemist imo, NL100 on siiski maailmamastaabis Small Stakes!

[2ssapaar]

See ka veel, et isegi kui sa ise loed vastast hästi ja suudad ta kitsa range peale panna ja tead, et ta peab su surve peale foldima (kuna see oleks pokkeriteooria järgi korrektne samm), siis tihti villain seda ei tee, kuna tema mäng on kaugel täiuslikkusest... ühesõnaga see vist tähendab seda, et su blufi fold equity on tihti väiksem kui sa tegelikult arvad.
+1

ma arvan et sa mõtled üle lihtsalt paljudes kohtades. NL100 ikkagi rohkem micro stakes kui mid stakes. ABC toidab veel ilusti. Ei pea ace-high'lt valued võtma monkey vastu.

käed:
1)ilma specific readita lähen ka bustoks arvatavasti
2)siin oleks hea check-raise'ida tavalise TAG-i vastu. Kirjeldatud mängija vastu pead arvatavasti rohkem bulleteid laskma turnis ja ka mõnikord riveris. See võib muutuda spewfestivaliks seega mina check-foldin. Pluss veel see raise size tunduks vähemalt mulle väga bluffi moodi sellisel boardil.
4)otsustan tema eelnevate squeeze suuruste põhjal. Kui mingit specific readi pole, siis lähen jälle bustoks.

ülejäänud käed mängiksin samamoodi

[Pahvak]

Kus Davy kadunud on?