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juuretis
21.05.14, 23:38
Ok, see kuu nii palju tulnud vastu olukordi kus laual on mingi paar maas ja vastas fish ning mul kas TP või over ja ei tea kas minna bustoks ära või mitte. Minu arust üsna keeruline mängida nende vastu sellistel boardidel. Äkki keegi oskaks seletada räägita vaakumis kuidas oleks kõige õigem mängida sellistes olukordades.

Siin paar näidet :

1. On siin bet/bet/bet õige ?

Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $10.00 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 2,9, Hands: 4291
UTG+1: $10.00 - VPIP: 10, PFR: 6, 3B: 2, AF: 2,0, Hands: 6748
MP1: $3.64 - VPIP: 56, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 1,0, Hands: 16
MP2: $12.18 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 1,9, Hands: 1817
CO: $12.83 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 1,6, Hands: 1352
BTN: $6.20 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 40
SB: $11.75 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 14, 3B: 7, AF: 6,3, Hands: 285

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A :diamond: A :heart:
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, MP1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.05) 2 :heart: 8 :club: 8 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, MP1 calls $0.90

Turn: ($2.85) 5 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.44, MP1 calls $2.24 all in

River: ($7.33) A :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $7.33
Hero shows A :diamond: A :heart:
MP1 shows T :spade: 8 :diamond:
Hero wins $7.00 :embarrassed:

2. Ise mõtlen et siin turn õige panustada, saab siiski valuet FD, sitem Kx ja god knows what...

CO: $10.47 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 2,0, Hands: 23
BTN: $5.56 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 13, 3B: 2, AF: 0,8, Hands: 101
SB: $10.05 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 1, AF: 1,3, Hands: 446
BB: $4.94 - VPIP: 75, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 1,1, Hands: 24
UTG: $6.05 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 13, 3B: 9, AF: 1,8, Hands: 71
Hero (UTG+1): $11.38
UTG+2: $10.00 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: 1,7, Hands: 1573
MP1: $10.00 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 10, 3B: 3, AF: 2,5, Hands: 1560
MP2: $8.14 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 3,0, Hands: 65

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with J :club: K :spade:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 4 folds, BTN calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) 2 :spade: T :spade: K :club: (3 players)
BB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, BTN folds, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($3.05) T :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.30, BB raises to $3.64, Hero calls $1.34

River: ($10.33) 8 :heart: (2 players)

Final Pot: $10.33
BB shows T :heart: 5 :diamond:
Hero shows J :club: K :spade:
BB wins $9.87
(Rake: $0.46)



3. Äkki turnis fold ? Vastane jube passive ja noh väga muud kätt ei näe tal kui Kx.


BB: $8.72 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0,6, Hands: 25
UTG: $10.00 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: 2,0, Hands: 2985
UTG+1: $4.80 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 5,0, Hands: 59
Hero (MP): $10.00 -
CO: $11.01 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 0,5, Hands: 38
BTN: $12.26 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 7, 3B: 2, AF: 4,6, Hands: 491
SB: $9.40 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 9, 3B: 8, AF: 5,0, Hands: 720

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A :club: A :diamond:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) K :diamond: Q :club: K :spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.43, BB calls $0.43

Turn: ($1.51) 5 :heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.90, BB raises to $1.80, Hero calls $0.90

River: ($5.11) T :diamond: (2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Final Pot: $8.11
BB shows K :club: 8 :spade:
Hero mucks A :club: A :diamond:
BB wins $7.75
(Rake: $0.36)

qjet
22.05.14, 00:34
1. ja 2. pole midagi teha, standard. viimases baluga teoreem ja snap fold. ma isegi checkin selle flopi, sest 3 tänavat valuet seal anyways pole

juuretis
22.05.14, 01:59
3. käsi, kui vastane oleks hoopis näiteks 60/20 AF 5.0+ kas siis asi muutuks palju või ikka fold turn?

Hmm,, googeldasin baluga theorem, tundub üsna huvitav, homseks natuke lugemist :P

Dnbftw
22.05.14, 08:31
Esimene jah standard, muud ei oskagi öelda.

Damn ma vist nii nit, et ei avaks KJo UTG+1, mis sest et fish blindil. As played raiseks flopil suuremalt nt 1.4 peale plaaniga turnis AI minna.

Kolmandas checkiks samuti flopi läbi.