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jrgn hell
11.06.09, 23:52
Rekkingsi näkkupanemine uuendustega oli paras aeg oma porno ära lõpetada ja teen megasessi hemis oma 42K käe peale(mida on enamvähem, et midagi välja juurida), et aru saada, miks ma selline ahv olen ja esimese asja mis on v*ttus vägevalt oli defending blinds ja kasutasin Pokey ja HEMI seeria artiklite koostööd ja filtreid.
Filtritega tuli example küll megaväike 171 handi ja -90BB ja vaatan parasjagu käsi ka üle, kus suurimad kaotused selle jama sees. Kui keegi viitsib, võib kommenteerida, sest osad käed tunudvad päris ufolt mängitud minu poolt ja osad oma ajuga ikka igatpidi ok, aga üldiselt tundub et defendimisest on asi kaugel. Et peaks vast 3bettima hakkama stealereid rohkem. Loodan, et ei ole liiga plaju käsi ühes teemas ja loodan, et tulemused ei mõjuta vastuseid. JA VAST OLEKS PAREM, KUI KÄED OLEKS SPOILERITENA, AGA MA EI LEIA ÜLES, KUIDAS NEID SPOILERIKS TEHA. kOHE KUI SELGEKS SAAN, TEEN MODIFAINGU ÄRA


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (10 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

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Hero (BB) ($25.46)
UTG ($14.46)
UTG+1 ($17.31)
UTG+2 ($16.11)
MP1 ($19.70)
MP2 ($21.52)
MP3 ($3.20)
CO ($7.46)
Button ($29.51)
SB ($6.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
6 folds, CO bets $0.70, 2 folds, Hero raises $2, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO calls $5.26 (All-In)

Turn: ($15.02) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($15.02) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $15.02

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (high card, Ace).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, fours).
Outcome: CO won $14.27


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CO ($32.96)
Button ($19.58)
SB ($3.70)
BB ($3.80)
Hero (UTG) ($22.26)
UTG+1 ($21.52)
UTG+2 ($36.14)
MP1 ($4)
MP2 ($9.74)
MP3 ($3.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.20, 3 folds, SB bets $0.90, 1 fold, Hero raises $4, MP2 raises $9.54 (All-In), SB calls $2.80 (All-In), Hero calls $5.54

Flop: ($23.28) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($23.28) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($23.28) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $23.28

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and eights).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Jacks and eights).
MP2 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Kings and eights).
Outcome: SB won $10.64, MP2 won $11.48


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MP2 ($28.05)
MP3 ($3.50)
CO ($44.02)
Button ($47.89)
SB ($10.56)
BB ($20.15)
Hero (UTG) ($20)
UTG+1 ($8.72)
UTG+2 ($15.97)
MP1 ($19.39)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
8 folds, BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.20) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.20) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($9.20) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $7, Hero calls $7

Total pot: $23.20

Results:
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: BB won $22.04


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SB ($19.80)
Hero (BB) ($21.42)
UTG ($19.27)
UTG+1 ($15.21)
MP1 ($4.30)
MP2 ($20)
MP3 ($15.24)
CO ($15.08)
Button ($28.22)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.20, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.20, CO bets $0.60, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40, UTG calls $0.40, MP3 calls $0.40

Flop: ($2.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40, 1 fold, MP3 calls $1.40

Turn: ($6.70) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $2, MP3 raises $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $4

River: ($18.70) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $7.24 (All-In), Hero calls $7.24

Total pot: $33.18

Results:
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (three of a kind, eights).
MP3 had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (straight, eight high).
Outcome: MP3 won $31.68


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UTG+2 ($29.66)
MP1 ($21.20)
MP2 ($20.71)
MP3 ($104.57)
CO ($20)
Button ($3.60)
Hero (SB) ($22.54)
BB ($16.85)
UTG ($15.52)
UTG+1 ($38.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
7 folds, Button bets $1.40, Hero raises $4.50, BB calls $4.40, Button calls $2.20 (All-In)

Flop: ($12.80) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $12.50, BB calls $12.25 (All-In)

Turn: ($37.30) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($37.30) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $37.30

Results:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Jacks).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: BB won $35.80


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BB ($4)
UTG ($17.43)
MP1 ($20.56)
MP2 ($19.80)
CO ($19.70)
Button ($4.71)
Hero (SB) ($20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, CO bets $0.80, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.70, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.80) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.60, Hero raises $4.50, CO calls $2.90

Turn: ($10.80) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO raises $14.40 (All-In), Hero calls $8.40

River: ($39.60) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $39.60

Results:
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, eights).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: CO won $38.10


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MP2 ($16.94)
MP3 ($27.30)
CO ($6.72)
Button ($33.40)
SB ($44.39)
Hero (BB) ($30)
UTG ($20.89)
UTG+1 ($5.55)
UTG+2 ($29.70)
MP1 ($31.71)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
6 folds, Button bets $1.05, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.40) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.40, Hero raises $6.75, Button calls $4.35

Turn: ($15.90) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, Button raises $25.60 (All-In), Hero calls $14.70 (All-In)

River: ($60.30) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $60.30

Results:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and fours).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Outcome: Button won $62.20


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Hero (SB) ($20)
BB ($20.36)
UTG ($20.62)
UTG+1 ($20.11)
MP1 ($19.94)
MP2 ($3.50)
MP3 ($22.18)
CO ($22.92)
Button ($32.92)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
4 folds, MP3 calls $0.20, CO bets $0.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.80, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.20) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.20, Hero calls $2.20

Turn: ($6.60) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.90, Hero raises $16.90 (All-In), CO calls $12

River: ($40.40) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $40.40

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Jacks).
CO had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: CO won $38.90


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (10 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

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BB ($35.26)
UTG ($49.93)
UTG+1 ($15.16)
UTG+2 ($8.34)
MP1 ($20)
MP2 ($22.63)
MP3 ($8.39)
CO ($20.20)
Button ($12.51)
Hero (SB) ($20.37)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
5 folds, MP3 calls $0.20, CO bets $0.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.80, BB calls $0.70, MP3 calls $0.70

Flop: ($3.60) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP3 checks, CO bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80, 2 folds

Turn: ($7.20) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.50, Hero raises $9, CO calls $5.50

River: ($25.20) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8.67 (All-In), CO calls $8.50 (All-In)

Total pot: $42.20

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
CO had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: CO won $40.70



Aitäh ette, kui keegi viitsib ja märkab midagi, mida mina ei näe

ranka
12.06.09, 01:05
QJ käes ma foldiks riveri
88 (set) kindlalt check-raise või donk-beti flop, liialt mehi on flopis. Turn ja river kõige halvem variant - seal pead stackid sisse saama.
JJ käsi, kus sa BB. Seal 3betiks PF. Nagu mängitud check-raise flop.

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peokuningas
12.06.09, 02:32
Minu nägemus siis. Kui väga puusse panin, siis andke märku.

1. Standard. Ma vist flopi check-raiseksin, aga pole suurt vahet vist, foldi siin ei näe.
2. Standard.
3. Fold river
4. Raise flop. 3 vastase vastu pole siin mõtet odavalt turni kaarte anda.
Nagu mängitud, ma turni check-raiseksin. Nagu mängitud, ma paneks ta raise peale nupud keskele.
5. Standard.
6. Standard.
7. Ma paneks turnil miski 10 või 11 siin ja foldi ei näe.
8. Raise flop. Edasi standard :)
9. Raise flop. As played ma turni ei raiseks vaid calliks ta lihtsalt maha.

Rahapada
12.06.09, 09:33
1. Standard. Aga enne floppi 3bet oleks vist ägedam, miski 2,5-2,8$ flopis foldi ei näeks.
2. Standard. ja mp2'hele paneks note'i külge et limp raise'b KK'ga
3. Teaks andmeid vms, aga pm ma leiaks foldi üles turnis... tundub, et vastas on säärane mängija
4. Raise flop. ma ... kui ma kõasti mõtleks, mõtleks foldi turnis välja, aga mängulises hetkes, nagu mängitud, loll olukord, ja dongid jobistavad ikka ära... turnis teeks raise'i
5. liiga vägev bet flopist imo, muidu standard.
6. Standard.
7. ei tea infi vastse kohta, aga probly teeks pf 3beti, ja hindaks kätt pärast floppi, säärasel laual pärast säärast sündmuste ahelat, vist ikkagi leiaks foldi, kui ta mu 3beti callind oleks
8. Raise flop. Edasi pole enam midagi teha, river on standard bs
9. 3bet pf, saaks rohkem infi. ja sellest lähtuvalt vahest ehk isegi leiaks foldi kuskil.

jrgn hell
12.06.09, 16:57
Ma uurisin korra veel läbi ja if i would like to capitalize, siis vist tunudb et probleemiks on LP openeride liiga passiivne mängimine oop, ehk siis temal hea pot´i controllida ja mina ägisen ja check/callin + veel paistab, et annan liigselt free carde postflop ja slowplaytan valedes kohtades, ehk siis koorub välja selge värk, et kui on käsi siis beti raisei ja check/raisei. Call is rarely the best play vms.


Praegu sain veel sellised vead pinnapealselt kätte:

* Olen pask MW hands, kus ma ei ole pf agressor ( Kas MW pots, kus ma agressor on BB/100 4.8midagi vähe või normaalne? Hemi artikkel on 6maxi peal ehitatud, seega siin ma ei osanud tuletada, mis normaalne oleks )
* Olen pask HU, kus ma ei ole pf agressor
* Losing money with 99, 77, 44, 33
*Mängin liiga passiivselt SC´s under KQs ( Võiks Unsuited ka paremini mängida, ehk siis vähem nussida )

ja see on alguseks
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