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Eile PN catis määriti mulle pähe et võiks hakata PLO-d mängima. Kuna cashist ja multitablingust on kopp ees siis nõustusin. Aitas kaasa ka Pärnus toimunud DC cashgame, kus omaha oli päris kire rohke mäng :D.
Ennem olen Omahahaha-ga kokku puutnud vaid playmoneys ja cashi kogemus üldiselt puudub.
Alustan siis starsi PLO10-st ja BRM reeglid järgmised
PLO10 200- 800
PLO25 800- 4000
PLO50 4000-10k
Eesmärgiks siis mängu biitima hakata see kuu.
Siia hakkan postima siis oma käsi.
Foorumi Plo huvilised võiks aidata mind mõne artikliga starting handidest.
Hiljem sebin endale Omaha manageri ja hakkan DC-s möllama.
täna suutsin ühe bi juba maha mängida
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Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($1.85)
MP ($13.05)
CO ($3.75)
Button ($2.90)
SB ($10.45)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.50, 2 folds, SB calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.20) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB raises to $3.25, Hero calls $2.55
Turn: ($7.70) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $6.70 (All-In), Hero calls $6.25 (All-In)
River: ($20.20) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $20.20 | Rake: $0.95
comment the hand pls
Üldjuhul PLO's less than nutsi drawida ei ole mõistlik. Suht kindel, et oled siin taga. Ja jääd kah.(Kui just gutterit ei hiti)
Üldjuhul PLO's less than nutsi drawida ei ole mõistlik. Suht kindel, et oled siin taga. Ja jääd kah.(Kui just gutterit ei hiti)
absolute nutsini on 2 outi vbla on flushi oudid good ja nut reani on 4 outi teise reani kh 4 outi
jõle raske tundub foldida mis liini ise võtaks siis alates flopist ?
algajaproff
21.07.09, 20:22
BR management on sul hästi valitud. Kui sellest kinni pead ja tiltis peaga ei mängi, peaks edu saavutamine vaid aja küsimus olema. Good luck!
BR management on sul hästi valitud. Kui sellest kinni pead ja tiltis peaga ei mängi, peaks edu saavutamine vaid aja küsimus olema. Good luck!
ainuke probleem on see et kui 3 bi stuck olen ei suuda mängida omahas pidi see leak olema dno
Sai ka seda chati jutuajamist pealt loetud. Eks nüüd tuleb siis tegemistel silma peal hoida.
Edu :)
Sai ka seda chati jutuajamist pealt loetud. Eks nüüd tuleb siis tegemistel silma peal hoida.
Edu :)
tänud
Flop: ($1.20) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB raises to $3.25, Hero calls $2.55
Sul on siin enamasti spliti jaoks 4 outi ja enamasti ei tehta seda vähemaga, kui KQxx. Vahest harva JJxx, kuna AAxx oleks ta PF tõstnud. C/R maha callides peaks SB hoogu veidi maha võtma, aga kuna stäkid pole ka väga sügavad, siis saab ta ka palja nutsiga siin raha sisse ajada.
Turnis tee c-fold selle käega. Antud mäng on liiga spewy - sa teenid selliste kätega oluliselt rohkem raha, kui sa hitid, seega iisi fold. Dunno mis tasemel vastane mõtleb muidugi...
Starting handidest on üsna raske mingit artiklit anda.
Siin on kalkulaator, mis arvutab su käe tugevuse protsendi välja. Toksid käe sisse ja saad teada, et näiteks top 23% hulgas.
http://propokertools.com/simulator/handPercentile.jsp?go=y&h=2s2c2d2h&g=oh (väike proof, et 2222 ei ole hea käsi ;D )
Loe see ka läbi, enne kui pea ees kalale tormad
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8361246&page=2&fpart=all&vc=1
PS. Oled sa ikka kindel, et sa tahad PLO'd mängida? ;D
PLO10 ja PLO25 on küll täielikud forellikasvatused, aga PLO50 on juba mõni ajuga inimene ka vastas. Sinu eelis teiste mängijate ees on küll suurem, aga selle eelise saamisega läheb ka kaugem aega. Ja variatsiooni pead kummardama imo, -10BI päevas ja nii nädal järjest ei tohiks mindseti kõigutada ;D
Razzis näiteks on ülilihtne, kui mängu jagad :)
algajaproff
22.07.09, 15:29
ainuke probleem on see et kui 3 bi stuck olen ei suuda mängida omahas pidi see leak olema dno
Ei saa öelda, et see otseselt leak oleks. Küsimus on pigem selles, et kas saad suurt volüümi arendada kuus, kui 3BI kaotuse puhul päeva vahet pead. Mul langeb 5st BIst mängu kvaliteet märgatavalt ja siis on probleem hoopis pidama saamisega.
tänks Egert vaatame, mis saama hakkab.
kui tahad siis võin sulle omaha booki laenata.
kui tahad siis võin sulle omaha booki laenata.
see pidi ju sitemini mängima panema :D
aga obv loeks
ütle kus kokku saame
no sinust sitemini mängida pole ju võimalik Omahat :D
järgmine nädal viskan ära lasna
no problemos
alustasin sessi ja teen siia posti, kuhu panen suuremad käed
seda siis sellepärast et pole trackingut atm
1) pf call on vist bs
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Hero (Button) ($10)
SB ($16.75)
BB ($7.95)
UTG ($5.95)
MP ($5.80)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks
Flop: ($0.50) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.40, 1 fold
Turn: ($1.30) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1
River: ($3.30) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2
Total pot: $7.30 | Rake: $0.35
Results in white below:
Hero had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, Queens over fives).
UTG mucked Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and tens).
Outcome: Hero won $6.95
2)
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CO ($12.65)
Button ($10)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($17.35)
UTG ($7.35)
MP ($7.70)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
2 folds, CO bets $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO calls $0.70
Flop: ($2.10) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, CO raises to $3.20, Hero calls $1.60
Turn: ($8.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5.80 (All-In), CO calls $5.80
River: ($20.10) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $20.10 | Rake: $0.95
Results in white below:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, King high).
CO mucked Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $19.15
3)
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MP ($9)
CO ($10.05)
Hero (Button) ($10.05)
SB ($5.95)
BB ($11.50)
UTG ($9.95)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold, MP calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.30) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold
Turn: ($3.10) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80
River: ($4.70) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $1.10, Hero folds
Total pot: $4.70 | Rake: $0.20
Results in white below:
MP didn't show
Outcome: MP won $4.50
4)
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Hero (UTG) ($10.05)
MP ($9.65)
CO ($11.30)
Button ($20.35)
SB ($9.25)
BB ($10)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
Hero bets $0.35, 2 folds, Button calls $0.35, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.85) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, Button calls $0.60
Turn: ($2.05) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, Button calls $1.40
River: ($4.85) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4.65, Button calls $4.65
Total pot: $14.15 | Rake: $0.65
Results in white below:
Button mucked 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Jacks and twos).
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Hero won $13.50
5)
no sinust sitemini mängida pole ju võimalik Omahat :D
järgmine nädal viskan ära lasna
no problemos
sobib
1) Suht okeilt mängitud. Võid buttonilt ka positsioonitõste teha.
2) Siin on sul flopist täpselt coinflip, seega dead money pärast võiksid juba flopis shoveda. Sul double-gutter + 2NFD + BD2NFD ja sisuliselt oled juba flopis commited, kuna blank turniga saad täpselt õiged pot oddsid AI jaoks flopi nutsi vastu.
3) Väga kahtlane käsi - mäletan et PLO10 donkbetiti sisuliselt vist aint nutsilähedase käega. MP kohta reade/state pole? Limpcalli tehakse nii madalal limiidil pm igast saastaga, aga võib ka mingi A456r vms olla, millest oled 70/30 ees. JJxx vastu oled 30/70 taga, aga turni bet on kahtlane. Call oleks siin turnis minuarust veidi vale, sest suva käe vastu saad täpsed oddsid, aga blank riveri jaoks peaks sul ka plaan olema. Täiesti readidepõhine olukord üldiselt, sest pead teadma kuidas vastane mõtleb ja kas ta leadib wrapiga välja sellisel flopil? Soovitaks turnis raise/fold. Haige käsi imo.
4) wp, aga mõtle enda jaoks läbi stsenaariumid, kui näiteks flopis raise saaksid? Samuti see, kui turnis flushi hitid, sest tõenäoliselt oled flushiga siin taga, kuna su ristid käituvad rohkem blockeritena. Mõtle ka sellele, mis teeksid riveris tõste peale?
5) folded pre ? ;D
PS. Kui PLO raamat, millest räägite, on Hwangi oma, siis pead tõenäolisemalt 6maxi agressiivsemalt mängima, kuna hwangi raamat on sisuliselt kirjutatud live FR jaoks. Algul ole sama tight, aga agressiivsem. BTN/LP'st lase end oluliselt loosemaks ja 3beti lightimalt.
4) wp, aga mõtle enda jaoks läbi stsenaariumid, kui näiteks flopis raise saaksid? Samuti see, kui turnis flushi hitid, sest tõenäoliselt oled flushiga siin taga, kuna su ristid käituvad rohkem blockeritena. Mõtle ka sellele, mis teeksid riveris tõste peale?
flopis otsa saaks siis hakkas foldi peale minema turni flushi kardaks sitaks ja riveril raise saades snap calliks
flopis otsa saaks siis hakkas foldi peale minema turni flushi kardaks sitaks ja riveril raise saades snap calliks
villain obv tegi siin überkräp mängu. Naked NFD'ga ikka turnis sellist panust ei callita. Riveri raise callimine sinu poolt oleneb jällegi readidest.
teen sessi ja hakkan järest käsi laksima
1)
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MP ($4.70)
Button ($27.50)
SB ($23.90)
Hero (BB) ($11.50)
UTG ($10.25)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG bets $0.35, MP calls $0.35, Button calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25
Flop: ($1.75) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets $0.10, Button calls $0.10, SB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, 2 folds, Button calls $0.50
Turn: ($3.65) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets $2.40, Hero raises to $10.55 (All-In), 1 fold, SB calls $8.15
River: ($24.75) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $24.75 | Rake: $1.20
Results in white below:
SB had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, tens and sevens).
Hero had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won $23.55
2)
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UTG ($3.15)
MP ($23.80)
CO ($14.35)
Hero (Button) ($22.15)
SB ($10.40)
BB ($15.05)
Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG bets $0.20, MP calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, SB calls $0.15, 1 fold
Flop: ($1.10) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.70, 2 folds, MP calls $0.70, 1 fold
Turn: ($2.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks
River: ($2.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $2.40, Hero folds
Total pot: $2.50 | Rake: $0.10
Results in white below:
MP didn't show
Outcome: MP won $2.40
3)
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UTG ($6.60)
Button ($41.05)
SB ($8.25)
Hero (BB) ($10)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, Button bets $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.90) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20, Hero raises to $1.70, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50
Turn: ($4.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
River: ($4.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $4.30, Hero folds
Total pot: $4.50 | Rake: $0.20
Results in white below:
SB didn't show
Outcome: SB won $4.30
4)
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Hero (MP) ($13.60)
CO ($8.45)
Button ($9.05)
SB ($11.05)
BB ($11.50)
UTG ($8.90)
Preflop: Hero is MP with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Button calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20
Flop: ($1.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks
Turn: ($1.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1, CO raises to $3.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $11.95, CO calls $4.65 (All-In)
River: ($17.80) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $17.80 | Rake: $0.85
Results in white below:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Kings).
CO had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: CO won $16.95
lol jän isewgi doltsiga plussi see sess :D
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BB ($9.75)
UTG ($28)
MP ($10.35)
Hero (CO) ($10.65)
Button ($17.10)
SB ($9.70)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.45, Button calls $0.45, SB raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.65, Button raises to $17.10 (All-In), SB calls $7.70 (All-In), Hero calls $4 (All-In)
Flop: ($31.20) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)
Turn: ($31.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)
River: ($31.20) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)
Total pot: $31.20 | Rake: $1.55
Results in white below:
Button had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, twos over Aces).
SB mucked 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, twos).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, twos over Aces).
Outcome: Button won $14.80, Hero won $14.85
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UTG ($10)
MP ($15.70)
CO ($9.25)
Button ($9.75)
Hero (SB) ($10.65)
BB ($14.55)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.50, 2 folds, Button calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.20) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, Button raises to $2.70, Hero raises to $9.25, Button calls $6.55 (All-In)
Turn: ($19.70) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($19.70) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $19.70 | Rake: $0.95
Results in white below:
Button had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, nines and sixes).
Outcome: Button won $18.75
jõle raske mäng ikka see omahahaa lähen rahustan holdemiga ennast maha nüüd :D
1) Spew, fold pre. Flopis SB vastu coinflip, aga multiway mingi gei donkbetiga kahtleks sügavalt top/bottom paaride väärtuses, eriti kui FD lauas ja võimalik 12 oudine reawrap, mille vastu oled umbes 40/60 taga. Turnis 3way ei ole su 3 paari piisavalt tugev pushimaks, kuna sul on sisuliselt 6 outi setide vastu (ka siis võid taga olla). Counterfeiti ei tasuks karta, aga laua paardudes ilma sulle maja andmata tõenäoliselt foldiks riveril.
2) Selgita oma riveri foldi? Minuarust näeb väga bluffi moodi välja, kuna sellise line'ga on su käsi põhimõtteliselt ümber pööratud ja millega vastane sind flopis callida sai - 9xxx käega vaevalt. Vastane teeks siin selle lükke ka 87xx tüüpi käega, kuna laua paardudes checkisid järgi ja riveril on tal ülilihtne maja reppida. Ise betiks turnis ca 2/3 potist ja riveril hindaks kätt calli puhul uuesti. Turnil c/r saades foldiks, aga mäng oleks sinu puhul +EV, kuna palja tripsiga ei saa ta oddse turni callimiseks.
3) Pläh, BET TURN!!! Sama vastane? Mikros on suht kahtlased need riveri peaaegu poti suurused panused. Miks sa flopis tõstad ülespoole wrapiga ja FD'ga, kui sa turnis end nii nõrgana näitad flushi hittides? Riveril ka laud ei paardunud, seega... Või lootsid ainult rida hittida ja potid olid blockeritena? Seleta ka käe juures, mida mõtled, on lihtsam :)
4) Ohjumal... ;D
pre on okei. Flopis leadi välja. Turni c/r ei anna sulle oddse nutsi tõmbamiseks, kuna punase kaardi vastu oled igaljuhul taga (või noh, iga punane kaart oleks vastase turni liini jaoks scarecard). c/r sellisel turnil tähendab mikros enamasti kõrget seti või 2*FD'd. Fold turn as played.
Hero is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
Suht standard käsi, AAxx alati AI pre, kui saad.
Hero is SB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
Samuti täielik standard. Flopis oled 45/55 taga, seega sisuliselt coinflip.
jõle raske mäng ikka see omahahaa lähen rahustan holdemiga ennast maha nüüd :D
Tead, üks Taanlane, kes on FullTilt'is PLO5000 reg, andis mulle head nõu - bet turn, bet river! See muutis mu elu. tõsiselt :)
Soovitan sulle sama, mind aitas see mikroPLO'st läbi :)
1) Spew, fold pre. Flopis SB vastu coinflip, aga multiway mingi gei donkbetiga kahtleks sügavalt top/bottom paaride väärtuses, eriti kui FD lauas ja võimalik 12 oudine reawrap, mille vastu oled umbes 40/60 taga. Turnis 3way ei ole su 3 paari piisavalt tugev pushimaks, kuna sul on sisuliselt 6 outi setide vastu (ka siis võid taga olla). Counterfeiti ei tasuks karta, aga laua paardudes ilma sulle maja andmata tõenäoliselt foldiks riveril.
2) Selgita oma riveri foldi? Minuarust näeb väga bluffi moodi välja, kuna sellise line'ga on su käsi põhimõtteliselt ümber pööratud ja millega vastane sind flopis callida sai - 9xxx käega vaevalt. Vastane teeks siin selle lükke ka 87xx tüüpi käega, kuna laua paardudes checkisid järgi ja riveril on tal ülilihtne maja reppida. Ise betiks turnis ca 2/3 potist ja riveril hindaks kätt calli puhul uuesti. Turnil c/r saades foldiks, aga mäng oleks sinu puhul +EV, kuna palja tripsiga ei saa ta oddse turni callimiseks.
3) Pläh, BET TURN!!! Sama vastane? Mikros on suht kahtlased need riveri peaaegu poti suurused panused. Miks sa flopis tõstad ülespoole wrapiga ja FD'ga, kui sa turnis end nii nõrgana näitad flushi hittides? Riveril ka laud ei paardunud, seega... Või lootsid ainult rida hittida ja potid olid blockeritena? Seleta ka käe juures, mida mõtled, on lihtsam :)
4) Ohjumal... ;D
pre on okei. Flopis leadi välja. Turni c/r ei anna sulle oddse nutsi tõmbamiseks, kuna punase kaardi vastu oled igaljuhul taga (või noh, iga punane kaart oleks vastase turni liini jaoks scarecard). c/r sellisel turnil tähendab mikros enamasti kõrget seti või 2*FD'd. Fold turn as played.
ei suuda riidi eriti mis seal vastasel olla saab
3) käes mõtlesin jah et potid töötavad rohkem blokkeritena ja ei tundnud eriti +EV river callida T high flushiga
ülidselt scare carde kardan täiega millegi pärast
ülidselt scare carde kardan täiega millegi pärast
leak ;D
kuskil oli mingi artikkel (google on sinu sõber) reverse scare cardidest. Sa peaksid teoreetiliselt bettima kaarte, mis sind hirmutama peaks. Teeb raskeks sind käe peale panna ja suurtes pottides tasub ära.
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