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Ahangama
29.07.09, 12:24
Tere.
Kõik NL4 grinderid kes lauas mitumitu BI-d maha mänginud on kohustatud tiltamise asemel lauad kinni panema, oma käed konverteerima ja micro nurka postitama! Kindlasti on kõige rohkem halba mängu just mini limiitidest, niiet andke tulla ja õpime üksteise vigadest!

Alustan,
eile sai ikka liiga palju bläkki tehtud siis panen kahtlased käed ülesse ja vaatame järgi ???

NL4 FR

1. Foldi ei leidnud ja ikka ootasin flushi, vastane 33/12/2,3 (ainult 23 kätt)

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Hero (Button) ($6.77)
UTG ($2.79)
MP1 ($5)
BB ($13.12)
UTG+1 ($2.87)
MP2 ($2.12)
SB ($1.11)
CO ($5.06)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.08, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.08, CO calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.38) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $0.04, CO raises $0.24, Hero calls $0.24, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $2.04 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $1.80

Turn: ($4.70) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.70) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.70

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (high card, Ace).
MP2 had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: MP2 won $4.47




2. Ikka väga kahtlane, SB siis 16/6/0,65 hakkab nüüd juba loogiline tunduma

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Hero (MP3) ($3.72)
Button ($5.66)
UTG ($7.34)
MP2 ($5)
UTG+1 ($5)
BB ($1.81)
CO ($2.11)
SB ($6.26)
MP1 ($4.64)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
4 folds, Hero bets $0.16, 2 folds, SB calls $0.14, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.48) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.23, SB calls $0.23, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.94) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20

River: ($1.34) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.96, Hero folds

Total pot: $1.34

Results:
SB didn't show
Outcome: SB won $2.24


3.ei kannata kriitikat aga paneme kirja siis kõik näevad kuidas pole mõtet punnitada, vastase statsid 9/7/2,5

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Hero (SB) ($5.19)
Button ($5)
BB ($2.68)
UTG+1 ($5.23)
MP2 ($2.19)
MP1 ($4.62)
UTG ($1.84)
CO ($2)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.16, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.14, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.40) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.19, Hero raises $0.38, UTG+1 calls $0.19

Turn: ($1.16) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

River: ($1.16) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.11, UTG+1 raises to $4.69 (All-In), Hero calls $3.54 (All-In)

Total pot: $10.46

Results:
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, eights).
UTG+1 had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $9.98


4. ja viimane kodus ärge järgi tehke käsi, väga raske seda postitada aga ehk siis jääb paremini meelde, 19/10/5,7

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Hero (BB) ($4.92)
MP2 ($5.19)
MP1 ($2)
UTG ($6.19)
SB ($2.25)
Button ($8.78)
CO ($2.30)
UTG+1 ($9.86)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.12, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.30) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.21, UTG+1 calls $0.21

Turn: ($0.72) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

River: ($0.72) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.69, UTG+1 raises $2.76, Hero calls $2.07

Total pot: $6.24

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
UTG+1 had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $5.93

pikk28
29.07.09, 12:33
no mida betsized no mida betsized no mida betsized no mida betsized no mida betsized no mida betsized no mida betsized no mida betsized
esiteks likvideeri see viga ära.
lõpeta min raisimine

donkament
29.07.09, 12:36
1) ei leia foldi
2) suurem cbet flopil, check turn ja riveris vaatab, potsize vbeti pole vist mõtet callida aga mingi väikse küll
3)fold flopil(mingi idiootne minraise :S)
4)valuebet turn, et saaks riveril suurema vbeti teha(või pot maha võtta). tänu checkile andsid vastasele tasuta kaardi ja see maksis kätte obv.

Ise hetkel grindin Nl5, mingi nädal+ tegin nl2 siis sain juba nl5 kolida. :). hetkel tänasega nl5s 400BB up 500 käe kohta.

Ahangama
29.07.09, 16:45
Mõned uued weird käed siis tänasest break-even sessist.

1. Siin päris huvitav lahmimine ja lõpuks river muidugi pani asjad paika, 22/6/2,5

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Button ($5.21)
Hero (CO) ($4.78)
SB ($8.35)
UTG+1 ($1.66)
UTG ($1.40)
MP2 ($2.24)
MP1 ($4.51)
BB ($5)
MP3 ($7.17)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
5 folds, Hero bets $0.16, Button raises $0.28, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.62) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.31, Hero raises $1.14, Button calls $0.83

Turn: ($2.90) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.38, Hero calls $1.38

River: ($5.66) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button raises to $2.41 (All-In), Hero calls $1.98 (All-In)

Total pot: $9.62

Results:
Button had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, tens).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and tens).
Outcome: Button won $9.57


2. KAs siin oli foldimise koht, 41/1/0,95, peale turni check äkki või mis?

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Hero (BB) ($7.86)
MP3 ($2.36)
SB ($7.68)
UTG ($5.24)
Button ($3.97)
UTG+1 ($5)
MP2 ($1.96)
CO ($7.50)
MP1 ($8.41)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 calls $0.04, 2 folds, SB calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.20, SB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.76) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.73, MP3 calls $0.73, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.22) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.58, MP3 calls $1.39 (All-In)

River: ($5) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $5

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and sixes).
MP3 had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: MP3 won $4.75

3. Vastas 9/2/1,75 tundus endale pigem fold

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Hero (MP1) ($4.09)
SB ($7.89)
CO ($4.84)
UTG+1 ($2.19)
BB ($5)
MP3 ($14.92)
MP2 ($3.14)
Button ($5.62)
UTG ($2.06)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.16, 6 folds, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.38) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.31, UTG calls $0.31

Turn: ($1) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.71, UTG raises to $1.59 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $2.42

Results:
UTG didn't show
Outcome: UTG won $3.18


4. Suht mõistus otsas, 15/6/1,7

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Hero (Button) ($5)
UTG ($5.06)
CO ($5.06)
MP1 ($1.94)
SB ($5.06)
BB ($5.02)
MP2 ($4.98)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, CO bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.38) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.27, Hero calls $0.27

Turn: ($0.92) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.66, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.92

Results:
CO didn't show
Outcome: CO won $1.54

alaska
29.07.09, 17:47
Teine käsi on hästi mängitud.
Üldiselt on see selline level, kus bluffida ei ole mõtet. Kui sa AK-ga flopile pihta ei saa ja mingeid tõmbeid ei ole, siis võid selle poti ära anda. Teinekord, kui pihta saad, callib A3 sind lõpuni maha, kasuta neid kohti rohkem. valuebet igal võimalusel.

KK ja AA proovi igal võimalusel preflop allin saada.

donkament
31.07.09, 09:48
tra ma olen valus lohh, kiitlesin siin üks päev mingis teemas oma monster winratega, aga tegelikult olen viimased 2k kätt NL5 breakeven lasknud.

Ahangama
31.07.09, 10:38
Väga hea, ma ei olegi ainuke. Viska mõni kibedam käsi ka ülesse kuhu kasum kadus! imo breakeven ei olegi kõige halvem, koguaeg ei saagi võita.

donkament
31.07.09, 10:57
Väga hea, ma ei olegi ainuke. Viska mõni kibedam käsi ka ülesse kuhu kasum kadus! imo breakeven ei olegi kõige halvem, koguaeg ei saagi võita.
standard tiltcallid ja colddeckid, kus lihtsalt ei uskunud, et vastane tõmbas nt ässa riverisse või kahe outerise riverisse. overpaar vs set oli ka paar korda ja overpaar vs overpaar jne. standard ühesõnaga ja ise ei hittinud eriti.

Ahangama
31.07.09, 11:07
Peab uskuma ;) ma vähemalt proovin

Kas oli fold või ei? 67/5/0,76 vastas. kahtlustasin kahte paari, turnil valuebetti juba ei teinud...kes oli fish sellel käel??

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Hero (MP2) ($5)
Button ($2.29)
UTG+1 ($7.32)
CO ($4)
BB ($5.37)
SB ($2.17)
UTG ($6.48)
MP1 ($5.32)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $0.16, CO calls $0.16, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.38) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.26, CO calls $0.26

Turn: ($0.90) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.39, CO calls $0.39

River: ($1.68) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.48, CO raises to $3.19 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $2.64

Results:
CO didn't show
Outcome: CO won $5.22

donkament
31.07.09, 11:23
standard fold siiski. ei beadi midagi peale blufi.

tolmuahv
31.07.09, 11:35
Mõned uued weird käed siis tänasest break-even sessist.

1. Siin päris huvitav lahmimine ja lõpuks river muidugi pani asjad paika, 22/6/2,5

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Button ($5.21)
Hero (CO) ($4.78)
SB ($8.35)
UTG+1 ($1.66)
UTG ($1.40)
MP2 ($2.24)
MP1 ($4.51)
BB ($5)
MP3 ($7.17)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
5 folds, Hero bets $0.16, Button raises $0.28, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.62) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.31, Hero raises $1.14, Button calls $0.83

Turn: ($2.90) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.38, Hero calls $1.38

River: ($5.66) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button raises to $2.41 (All-In), Hero calls $1.98 (All-In)

Total pot: $9.62

Results:
Button had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, tens).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and tens).
Outcome: Button won $9.57


2. KAs siin oli foldimise koht, 41/1/0,95, peale turni check äkki või mis?

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Hero (BB) ($7.86)
MP3 ($2.36)
SB ($7.68)
UTG ($5.24)
Button ($3.97)
UTG+1 ($5)
MP2 ($1.96)
CO ($7.50)
MP1 ($8.41)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 calls $0.04, 2 folds, SB calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.20, SB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.76) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.73, MP3 calls $0.73, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.22) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.58, MP3 calls $1.39 (All-In)

River: ($5) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $5

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and sixes).
MP3 had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: MP3 won $4.75

3. Vastas 9/2/1,75 tundus endale pigem fold

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Hero (MP1) ($4.09)
SB ($7.89)
CO ($4.84)
UTG+1 ($2.19)
BB ($5)
MP3 ($14.92)
MP2 ($3.14)
Button ($5.62)
UTG ($2.06)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.16, 6 folds, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.38) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.31, UTG calls $0.31

Turn: ($1) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.71, UTG raises to $1.59 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $2.42

Results:
UTG didn't show
Outcome: UTG won $3.18


4. Suht mõistus otsas, 15/6/1,7

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Hero (Button) ($5)
UTG ($5.06)
CO ($5.06)
MP1 ($1.94)
SB ($5.06)
BB ($5.02)
MP2 ($4.98)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, CO bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.38) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.27, Hero calls $0.27

Turn: ($0.92) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.66, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.92

Results:
CO didn't show
Outcome: CO won $1.54



1) Ei ole väga viga. Kuni turnini ei saa overpaari foldida. Ta võis olla mastiostul või hittida 10. Riveril busted draw mängib samamoodi tihti ja ma ka ei foldiks.

2) OK käsi, ei saa seal foldida eriti.

3) Enam-vähem OK fold. Kuigi mastiost blufib seal tihti.

4) Halb call preflop. AKs peab preflop 3-bettima. Initsiatiiv on seal väga oluline, kuna enamasti sa ei saa flopile pihta ja tahad flopi cbetiga vastase välja saada potist. Kui 4-betib su AK all-in, siis NL4 preflop callib seal enamiku vastu maha ja oled ees.

Ahangama
31.07.09, 15:51
nonii, lauad kinni, ühtegi potti koju ei tahtnud tulla. KK vs 88 set, reraised ja sumistamised, ei suutnud foldida. minu rida vs fishi mast, suht väike pot aga ai oli vaja callida. need kaks suuremat enda bläkki.
ja paar kätt ka ülesse:

1.Blindi rööv 14/8/4 vastu, arvatavasti mingi set või kõrge pocket või siis AK, igatahes foldisin.

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Hero (Button) ($5)
UTG+1 ($2.50)
CO ($3.10)
UTG ($6.03)
MP2 ($5.25)
MP3 ($5.15)
MP1 ($5.10)
SB ($9.28)
BB ($5.41)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
6 folds, Hero bets $0.16, 1 fold, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.34) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.27, BB raises $0.54, Hero raises $0.54, BB raises to $5.25 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $1.96

Results:
BB didn't show
Outcome: BB won $6.31

2. ka siis suht huvitav käsi, mille lõpuks ikkagi foldisin. ette juba öelduna et väga palju selliseid käsi ei mängi, vbl ei peaks üldse?

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Hero (CO) ($7.50)
UTG+1 ($5)
MP2 ($4.81)
MP1 ($2.06)
Button ($7.13)
SB ($1.58)
BB ($5.14)
UTG ($1.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 bets $0.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.66) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.51, Hero calls $0.51, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.68) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

River: ($3.28) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.48, Hero folds

Total pot: $3.28

Results:
UTG+1 didn't show
Outcome: UTG+1 won $4.60

hoss23
31.07.09, 16:36
Esimeses käes ei usu eriti et vastasel kõrge pocket, aga set on küll usutav. Arvan et ise näitasid nõrkust oma mini reraisega flopil. Teist kätt poleks ma üldse mänginud.

EGERT
31.07.09, 17:26
Peab uskuma ;) ma vähemalt proovin

Kas oli fold või ei? 67/5/0,76 vastas. kahtlustasin kahte paari, turnil valuebetti juba ei teinud...kes oli fish sellel käel??

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Hero (MP2) ($5)
Button ($2.29)
UTG+1 ($7.32)
CO ($4)
BB ($5.37)
SB ($2.17)
UTG ($6.48)
MP1 ($5.32)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $0.16, CO calls $0.16, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.38) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.26, CO calls $0.26

Turn: ($0.90) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.39, CO calls $0.39

River: ($1.68) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.48, CO raises to $3.19 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $2.64

Results:
CO didn't show
Outcome: CO won $5.22


OMG
Beti turnil/riveril rohkem! ei tea kuidas NL5 mõeldakse, aga ise oleks vastase asemel any2'ga shovend sellise liini peale.

Ahangama
03.08.09, 11:34
Tänud kõigile vastajatele.
Vahepeal juba tundus, et ei olegi enam midagi postitada :D aga siin ma nüüd olen.
Laupäeval sai esimest korda kalade vahel ujutud, second paaride ja A high calliti valuebette ja igast jama. Lõppes see sess muidugi breakeven sest oli vaja kõik kalad kätte saada ja raha kokku korjata, pmst hakkasin ise kõiki käsi kaasa limpima ja potte püüdma, AK limp ja sloowplay, mis maksis kätte obv. FISH!
Üldiselt positsioonil olles korralik preflop bet ja suur cbet otsa ja enamus potte tuleb koju. Probleem tavaliselt kui mingi donk seljataha jääb ja mu AK ära callib flopil, c/f turnil tavaliselt.

1. Mida siin potis teistmoodi teeksid? flop üsnagi hea ja võiks valuet saada rohkem. kas cbet liiga suur? parem varblane peos kui tuvi katusel või on siin teisi variante? väike flushi oht on muidugi, parem kiirelt maha. aga kui kahte flushi ei oleks? slowplay kills but. lihtsalt unlucky et keegi ei hittinud?

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Hero (MP1) ($5.79)
UTG+1 ($5)
MP2 ($5.47)
SB ($1.96)
UTG ($4.88)
BB ($1.96)
Button ($1.32)
MP3 ($1.73)
CO ($2.27)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $0.16, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.16, 1 fold, Button calls $0.16, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.54) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.39, 2 folds

Total pot: $0.54

Results:
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero won $0.91


Mõned suuremad kaotused eilsest, tundub et kõrgemate pocketite foldimine veel mu nõrk koht ja mingi osa kasumist kaob sinna auku. reraisele ikka fold, right?

2. Turn tundub ilmselge foldimise koht, JJ veidi niru ka et ai ära vaadata

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Hero (MP1) ($5)
UTG ($4.03)
SB ($4.64)
BB ($5.14)
Button ($5.71)
CO ($4.80)
MP2 ($5.99)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.46) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.37, MP2 calls $0.37

Turn: ($1.20) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.14, MP2 raises to $5.42 (All-In), Hero calls $3.29 (All-In)

River: ($10.06) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $10.06

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Jacks and fours).
MP2 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and fours).
Outcome: MP2 won $10.55

3. 39/15/1.5

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Hero (Button) ($6.79)
CO ($7.79)
MP2 ($1.09)
UTG ($2.06)
SB ($5)
MP1 ($4.04)
BB ($8.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, BB calls $0.16, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.46) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $0.28, Hero raises $0.56, BB calls $0.28

Turn: ($1.58) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.21, BB calls $1.21

River: ($4) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Total pot: $9

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and threes).
BB had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (four of a kind, threes).
Outcome: BB won $8.55


4. üsna donki oli vastas, nojahh

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Hero (BB) ($6.83)
MP1 ($4.89)
MP2 ($3.46)
SB ($5.26)
UTG+1 ($5)
UTG ($5.33)
Button ($5.47)
CO ($2.22)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.04, 4 folds, Hero bets $0.16, MP1 calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.42) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.34, MP1 calls $0.34

Turn: ($1.10) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.01, MP1 raises $2.02, Hero raises to $6.29 (All-In), MP1 calls $2.33 (All-In)

River: ($9.80) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $9.80

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Aces).
MP1 had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Queens and tens).
Outcome: MP1 won $9.31