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raunooo
13.08.09, 19:32
Tervist.

Räägime siis kõigepealt natukene ajaloost. Pokkerit olen mänginud no oma paar-kolm aastat küll, kuid tõsisemalt alustasin cash game’ga alles selle aasta alguses, kui sai soetatud endale Hold’ Em Manager. Esimene depo starsi oli $150 ja alustasin 6-max NL10-ga. Bankroll kasvas ilusti ning varsti hakkasingi mängima 6-max NL25-e. Kokku jõudsin mängida antud limiidil natuke üle 40k käe sest siis tuli selline hetk, et tavaline elu tahtis ka elamist ja olin sunnitud rahad välja kandma, kuid biitisin levelit enda arust päris kenasti. Diili eesmärk ongi just bankrolli uuesti üles ehitamine ja loodetavasti suudan selle käigus ka steikijatele kena tulemust näidata.

Stake paneb välja Kilu6 ja suur aitäh talle.

Pokkerituba: PokerStars
Alias: raunoo
Mäng: 6-max NL25 (mängin 6-9 lauda korraga)
Algbankroll: 30 buy inni ehk $750
Diili kestvus: 100k kätt.
Diili väljamakse: 50/50 profitist.
Diili algus: running...
Diili väljamaksed: Kui 100k kätt on mängitud.

Kui peaks juhtuma, et kaotan 5 buy inni, siis teen korraks pausi, arutame kilu6-ga ja siin foorumis, et mis on valesti või miks on tulnud 5 buy inni miinust ja lähtuvalt sellest teeme siis järeldused, et kuidas edasi. Leppisime kokku, et kui tekib vajadus, siis liigun limiidis alla.


Kuna enesearendamine on väga oluline osa diili käigus, siis hakkan siia teemasse postitama ka olulisemaid käsi ning loodan foorumi 6-max prodelt ka kindlasti tagasisidet saada. Aitäh.

Allpool on statid ja graafikud. Kui hakkab silma mingi leak, siis andke sellest märku siin teemas. Ise vaatan, et SB-lt olen vist liiga palju käsi mänginud?!

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luba adminilt saadud

Davy
13.08.09, 20:08
Ma mõtlen... aga 50k on vähe, 100k ja lisatingimustega, kui oled huvitatud, siis saada pm ja räägime msn edasi.

hotcocacola
13.08.09, 21:17
huvitav huvitav :)
olen vist huvitatud, aga eks näis :P
kahjuks endal hetkel rahvadega veic kehvasti, sellesmõttes, et kõik vaba raha liigub korteri remonti ;D

Davy
13.08.09, 21:45
Minujaoks oleks ajakulu siiski liiga suur, kui oleks stake´i teinud nagu ise oleksin soovinud, nii et teistel stakejatel on võimalus.

raunooo
17.08.09, 01:48
Julgemalt poisid. :)

raunooo
20.08.09, 18:51
Nii, esimest posti sai nüüd täiendatud. Praegu tuletan veel veidi basic stuffi meelde ja äkki täna õhtul teen juba esimese sessi. Hoidke siis edaspidi sellel topicul silm peal. :) Aga kas äkki kellelgi hakkab stattides kohe mõni leak silma, et siis saaks selle varakult likvideerida?! Tänan tähelepanu eest!

raunooo.

Lutzky
21.08.09, 09:09
BTN, CO liiga tight, imo.

raunooo
21.08.09, 17:14
Nii, esimene selline kergem session sai tehtud. Mängisin esialgu 4 lauda, et tunnetus uuesti kätte saada. Mängitud 636 kätt ja seis -$1.85. Kõige madalamal käisin -$12 peal, kõige kõrgemal +$62. Üsna variatsioonirikas. Panen mõned käed ka üles, saab kommenteerida ja arutleda.

1)
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB statid: VPIP:33/PFR:31/AGG:4,0/3b:21,4/ 55 kätt.

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($16.70)
CO ($29.90)
Hero (Button) ($29.55)
SB ($37.65)
BB ($25.25)
UTG ($26.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $0.75, SB raises $2.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.25, SB raises $8.25, Hero raises $24.05 (All-In), SB calls $19.05

Turn: ($59.35) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($59.35) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $59.35

Results below:
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (three of a kind, tens).
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and tens).
Outcome: Hero won $56.40


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2)
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

BTN: 30/27/4.3/15 64 kätt.

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($44.15)
SB ($4.75)
BB ($6.70)
UTG ($6.55)
Hero (MP) ($25.40)
CO ($49.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, Button raises $2.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.35) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3.25, Hero raises $9.75, Button raises $38.40 (All-In), Hero calls $13.15 (All-In)

Turn: ($51.15) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($51.15) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $51.15

Results below:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and sixes).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and sixes).
Outcome: Button won $67.40


3)
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

BB: 19/14/3.1/1.9 208 kätt. Ühesõnaga - regular.

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($31.75)
BB ($25.65)
UTG ($26.30)
MP ($16.40)
Hero (CO) ($39)
Button ($41.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BB calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.10) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.10) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $2.75, Hero raises $7.75, BB raises $15.25, Hero calls $10.25

Total pot: $40.10

Results below:
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Hero had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and fours).
Outcome: BB won $38.15

EGERT
21.08.09, 17:25
kas teises käes c/c parem poleks?

Davy
21.08.09, 17:27
3s käes riveril rr peale sa ei biidi midagi, snapfold.

raunooo
21.08.09, 19:20
kas teises käes c/c parem poleks?


Ei saa täpselt aru mida mõtled c/c all? Kas mõtled, et check call flopis? Kui nii, siis imo pole check call üldse hea, sest c/r annab mulle võimaluse kohe pot maha võtta ning kui ta peaks callima või shovema, siis on mul imo väga head oddsid anyway. Parandage, kui eksin.

raunooo
21.08.09, 19:21
3s käes riveril rr peale sa ei biidi midagi, snapfold.

See on küll õige jah..

EGERT
21.08.09, 20:27
Ei saa täpselt aru mida mõtled c/c all? Kas mõtled, et check call flopis? Kui nii, siis imo pole check call üldse hea, sest c/r annab mulle võimaluse kohe pot maha võtta ning kui ta peaks callima või shovema, siis on mul imo väga head oddsid anyway. Parandage, kui eksin.

jep, aga mille peale sa ta panid kui ta checkraiset tõstis ? Või mis käed vastane siin sinu c/r'le foldiks?
ülepaari ja kahe paari vastu oled veidi taga, aga seti vastu oled 30/70. Ees oled sa vist ainult Ax potidest. Võib-olla ei suuda ma holdemi mõttemaailma end täielikult viia...

kivisaba
21.08.09, 20:50
jep, aga mille peale sa ta panid kui ta checkraiset tõstis ? Või mis käed vastane siin sinu c/r'le foldiks?
ülepaari ja kahe paari vastu oled veidi taga, aga seti vastu oled 30/70. Ees oled sa vist ainult Ax potidest. Võib-olla ei suuda ma holdemi mõttemaailma end täielikult viia...

peale chk raise tõstet ei olegi vaja ju millegi peale panna enam pot odds liiga haige

McFoldberg
21.08.09, 23:30
jep, aga mille peale sa ta panid kui ta checkraiset tõstis ? Või mis käed vastane siin sinu c/r'le foldiks?
ülepaari ja kahe paari vastu oled veidi taga, aga seti vastu oled 30/70. Ees oled sa vist ainult Ax potidest. Võib-olla ei suuda ma holdemi mõttemaailma end täielikult viia...



Kontsept on väga lihtne.

Fold Equity pärast ck-raisime, et vastane foldiks kui tal kätt pole. Samas kui tal on käsi ja shoveb meie check-raise peale, on meil piisavalt equitit, et see südamerahus maha callida.




Mulle jääb silma, et sa callid 3bete kuidagi liiga lightilt äkki...

raunooo
22.08.09, 11:34
Mulle jääb silma, et sa callid 3bete kuidagi liiga lightilt äkki...

Ei calli muidu väga lightilt, aga esimeses ja teises käes 3bettisid kaks sellist vana kes olid päris tihti tervet lauda 3bettinud. Esimeses käes oli positsioon, teise käe oleks võinud tegelt vabalt PF muckida jah peale 3betti. Mulle endale meeldiks ka tegelt fold rohkem teises käes peale 3betti.

raunooo
23.08.09, 12:00
Proovisin eile esimest korda stack laotust, table ninjat ja ka hold em manageri table scannerit. Ütleme nii, et ei harjunudki täitsa ära selle stack laotusega. Tiles lasta tundub ikka mõnusam. Table Ninja on muidugi päris mõnus ja table scanner ka päris asjalik. Eilne sess oli väga **** ja seis praegu -3BI ja mängitud 1540 kätt. >:(

1.
Kõigepealt läks üks BI, ei suutnud riveril kuidagi foldida, sest ei uskunud kuidagi, et fish võis sisemist oodata. Riveril oleks tegelt check call vist kõige parem isegi? Riveril bettida tundub endale küll praegu suht rumal, aga panin ta miski kahe paari peale, AK AxQc. Või kuidas Teie oleksite kätt mänginud?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

CO: 31/14/3.0/0.0 90 kätt.

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($53.75)
Hero (MP) ($30.20)
CO ($27.25)
Button ($37.55)
SB ($27.45)
BB ($10.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.85) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, CO calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.45) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.95, CO calls $2.95

River: ($10.35) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5.90, CO raises $22.25 (All-In), Hero calls $16.35

Total pot: $54.85

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
CO had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: CO won $52.15

2.
Tra ma olen päris vihane enda peale, et ma AKo OOP nii üle suutsin mängida. Puhas raha põletamine tegelikult ja ma ei oska praegu öelda ka miks ma callisin shove, väga sick. 4bet shove peale peaks kindel fold olema. Sellist asja ei saa lubada. >:(

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

UTG: 19/12/1.0/8.7 82 kätt.

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($51.65)
Hero (SB) ($27.75)
BB ($37.55)
UTG ($27)
MP ($5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
UTG bets $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises $4.75, 1 fold, UTG raises $25.50 (All-In), Hero calls $22.15

Flop: ($54.50) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($54.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($54.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $54.50

Results below:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, threes).
UTG had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and threes).
Outcome: UTG won $52.50


3.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

BB: 49/29/1.3/0.0 52 kätt.

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($24.85)
UTG ($17.40)
MP ($33.05)
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($34.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, MP bets $0.75, Hero raises $2.35, 1 fold, BB calls $2.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($5.55) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero raises $6.25, BB calls $4.75

Turn: ($18.05) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25

River: ($26.55) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Total pot: $27.55

Results below:
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, nines and fours).
BB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Jacks and fours).
Outcome: BB won $26.25


4.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

BTN: 58/42/6.0/0.0 12 kätt.

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) ($26.95)
BB ($5.10)
UTG ($88)
MP ($29.50)
CO ($22.60)
Button ($8.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, Button bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, Button calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.15) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

River: ($8.65) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3.90 (All-In), Hero calls $3.90

Total pot: $16.45

Results below:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (straight, five high).
Hero had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: Button won $15.65

kuco
24.08.09, 11:09
Proovisin eile esimest korda stack laotust, table ninjat ja ka hold em manageri table scannerit. Ütleme nii, et ei harjunudki täitsa ära selle stack laotusega. Tiles lasta tundub ikka mõnusam. Table Ninja on muidugi päris mõnus ja table scanner ka päris asjalik. Eilne sess oli väga **** ja seis praegu -3BI ja mängitud 1540 kätt. >:(



1.
Kõigepealt läks üks BI, ei suutnud riveril kuidagi foldida, sest ei uskunud kuidagi, et fish võis sisemist oodata. Riveril oleks tegelt check call vist kõige parem isegi? Riveril bettida tundub endale küll praegu suht rumal, aga panin ta miski kahe paari peale, AK AxQc. Või kuidas Teie oleksite kätt mänginud?

Turn: ($4.45) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.95, CO calls $2.95
Turnis oleksin pannud väga close to pot.
$4 vms ja seda kindla plaaniga, et bet/fold


2.
6xBB open raise? 4-bet shovele raske fold ja note kirja.


3.
Arvestades vastase bettimist on minu arvates fine play.


4.
Nõmedad stackid. Täisstacki vastu oleks kindlasti 3-betinud.
Miks sa flopis välja betisid? CRAI tundub kordades parem mäng sest ülepaar ei viska maha ja äss ka selliste stackidega ei viska maha ja raha sisse saada üldjuhul ~80:20 favoriit on täiesti okei. Ebajopp lihtsalt käega aga paistab, et shortstackeritel ongi luckbox permapõhjas :P

raunooo
25.08.09, 11:49
1.
Turnis oleks võind jah rohkem panna, kui nüüd mõelda veidi.

2.
UTG pani sellepärast 6xBB, sest potis oli enne kaarte juba 0.65 (MP pani BB pimedalt, et kohe mängu saada). Shovele oleks jah pidanud siiski suht kindlalt foldima.

4.
Ma ei oskagi praegu öelda, miks ma välja bettisin. Check raise tundub parem mäng küll, sest suure tõenäosusega oleks ta cbettind igal juhul, olgugi, et antud juhul floppas ta rea.

Tänud kommenteerimast!

Davy
25.08.09, 12:12
1) käsi vastas on agresiivne mängija, ta ei slowplay turnis enam kindlasti mitte, kui ainult made flushi.
Riverit sind callib ainult parem käsi, eriti veel vaadates kuidas käsi ennast välja on mänginud. Bettida seevastu võivad kõik busted fd, nii et checki ja lase vastsel bluffida, peaksid rohkem silma peal hoidma sellistel riveri kohtadel, kus vastasel on tõenäoliselt busted draw ja check callima neid kohtasid.
bet/Call on õudne.
2)19/12/1.0
see on tavaliselt mängijatüüp sellisel limiidil, kes setmineb 3b potti või cold callib su 3beti weak holdingutega, tema utg range on liiga tugev , et seal lollusi tegema hakata.
3) I like turn and river vs this opponent and flop action, enne kui readi ei ole ära mine oma marginaalsete kätega hulluks
4) Vaata mis vastane sul vastas, beti 1,55 min flopil ja ma calliks ka turni ja riveri ilma readita. Liiga vähe ridu ja liiga palju bluffe 58/42-l

raunooo
26.08.09, 14:41
**** küll, ühegi käega ei võida. Seis -8 BI ja selline tunne, et peab NL10 peale üle minema, NL25-s lihtsalt haige downswing.

Paar näidet:

1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($35.95) 28/9/8.0/0.0 47 kätt.
Hero (SB) ($27.35)
BB ($23.30)
UTG ($12.55)
MP ($30.55)
CO ($24.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, Button bets $1.50, Hero raises $4.50, 1 fold, Button calls $3.10

Flop: ($9.45) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7.70, Button raises $15.40, Hero raises $15.05 (All-In), Button calls $7.35

Turn: ($54.95) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($54.95) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $54.95

Results:
Button had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, tens).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Button won $52.25

2.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($37.80) 51/22/3.3/0.0 55 kätt. Ei viska sellise venna vastu TPTK maha ju?
SB ($8.80)
BB ($30.80)
UTG ($19.80)
Hero (MP) ($25.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.25, Hero bets $1, Button calls $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.35) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
UTG bets $0.25, Hero raises $2.75, Button raises $5.25, 1 fold, Hero raises $15, Button calls $12.50

Turn: ($39.10) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6.95 (All-In), Button calls $6.95

River: ($53) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $53

Results:
Button had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, sevens over twos).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and twos).
Outcome: Button won $51

3.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($19)
MP ($23) 43/15/1.6/7.1 55 kätt.
Button ($21.35)
SB ($18.70)
Hero (BB) ($26)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.70) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, MP raises $1.20, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($3.10) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.45, MP calls $2.45

River: ($8) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5.35, MP raises $11.75, Hero raises $16.75 (All-In), MP calls $7.25 (All-In)

Total pot: $46

Results:
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (full house, threes over eights).
MP had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, threes over nines).
Outcome: MP won $44

4.
Pre flop oleks võinud ühe või kaks BB-i rohkem panna, aga vaevalt see midagi muutnud oleks, sest vastased nii dongid ja nad ei saa midagi aru nkn. Nojah tegelt, kuna donk on SB, siis oleks võinud mõelda küll, et tal võib see 8 olla küll.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($26.45)
MP ($68.60)
Button ($29.70)
SB ($15.90) 52/2/1.6/5.0 54 kätt.
Hero (BB) ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1, SB calls $1

Flop: ($3.75) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.10, 1 fold, SB calls $3.10

Turn: ($9.95) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $11.55 (All-In), Hero calls $11.55

River: ($33.05) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $33.05

Results:
SB had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, eights).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Outcome: SB won $31.45

5.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($4.15)
UTG ($20.25)
Hero (MP) ($25.85)
CO ($7) Esimene käsi tal lauas, pani BB kohe sisse CO-lt, sellepärast ka pre flop 5BB raise minu poolt.
Button ($82.10)
SB ($29.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $1.25, CO (poster) calls $1, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.85) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.35, CO raises $5.75 (All-In), Hero calls $3.40

Turn: ($14.35) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.35) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.35

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Jacks and sixes).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Jacks and sevens).
Outcome: CO won $13.65

6.
Flopi 3b natsa väike, sest kaks vastast.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($25.05)
Button ($119.70) 29/6/0.7/0.0 19 kätt.
SB ($47.35)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($37.50)
MP ($51.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, CO bets $0.75, Button calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises $2.85, 1 fold, Button calls $2.35

Flop: ($7.05) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5.75, Button calls $5.75

Turn: ($18.55) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $16.15 (All-In), Button calls $16.15

River: ($50.85) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $50.85

Results:
Button had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (straight, King high).
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Button won $48.40


Müstika lihtsalt. ??? Any advice?

raunooo
26.08.09, 14:53
Väikest statistikat 3k käe kohta.
AA - 7 korda -52.30
KK - 8 korda $39.75
QQ - 9 korda $17.45
JJ - 15 korda $48.80
99 - 13 korda -$58.80

AKs - 7 korda -$14.65
AKo - 27 korda -$32.10
AQs - 9 korda $0.40
AQo - 36 korda $12.35

-andres-
26.08.09, 15:03
1. Preflopis võid dongi vastu natuke rohkemgi 3bettida, kuigi see arvatavasti käe lõppseisu ei muudaks.
2. Foldida on taolise villaini vastu raske, kuid board on väga dry ning ühtegi drawi pole, siis flopi 4bet? paneks kas allin või siis minraise otsa kuhugi 10$ peale, sest drawe me ei karda ja laseme tal odavamalt callida. Rahad saame sisse anyway.

Teised käed okeid minu silmis.

kilu6
26.08.09, 16:45
No enam vähem käed.
Ma 6max mees ei ole, aga ehk tuleb abiks.

1. OOP 3bet jah ehk 1BB rohkem või nii?
2. 4BB+1 raise PF?
6. Palju siis 2 vastase vastu oleks õige squeeze 3bet OOP?

marguzz22
26.08.09, 18:16
päris haiged käed. ise mängiks enamus samamoodi, v.a betsizing mõnes kohas

Lutzky
02.09.09, 22:27
Mis uudist?

raunooo
03.09.09, 02:42
Nii, sorry, et teema natuke unarusse on jäänud, natuke on septembri algusega olnud tegemist. Tegin seisult -8BI veel NL25, lootuses, et äkki läheb peale mõnepäevalist pausi paremini, kuid eksisin ja nüüd olen omadega kolinud NL10 peale. Nl25-s tuli siis masendav -10BI. :S Ässad on ilmselt suurim miinuskäsi, kohe kuidagi ei võida ma selle käega. Viimased buy innid läksid siis nii. Esimeses kahes käes sama vastane. Üritan nüüd NL10-s seisu vähe parandada ja millalgi siis kindlasti uuesti NL25-e ründama. 800 kätt tegin ka juba alustuseks, tundub väga fishine, aga üks set vs set rikkus ära. +0.5BI hetkeseis.

1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($25)
UTG ($25.45)
MP ($13.25)
CO ($30.35)
Button ($41.20) 74/6/3.8/6.7 49 kätt.
Hero (SB) ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, CO bets $1, Button calls $1, Hero raises $4, 1 fold, CO calls $3.10, Button calls $3.10

Flop: ($12.55) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $9.25, 1 fold, Button raises $18.50, Hero raises $11.65 (All-In), Button calls $2.40

Turn: ($54.35) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($54.35) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $54.35

Results below:
Button had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (full house, Jacks over Queens).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $51.70


2.
Vana lihtsalt completes SB-lt oma jaakudega, ei osanud iial teda over pairi peale panna.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($26.50)
MP ($6.30)
CO ($26.60)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($32.25) 74/6/3.8/6.7 49 kätt.
Hero (BB) ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero bets $0.90, MP calls $0.90, SB raises $1.80, Hero raises $6.15, 1 fold, SB calls $5.25

Flop: ($15.75) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises $17.70 (All-In), SB calls $14.70

Turn: ($51.15) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($51.15) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $51.15

Results below:
SB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Hero had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: SB won $48.65

3.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (Button) ($28.85)
SB ($6.05) 28/14/-/9.1 30 kätt.
BB ($97.55)
UTG ($4.90)
MP ($25.55)
CO ($11.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.45, SB raises $5.30 (All-In), Hero calls $3.85

Turn: ($12.35) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($12.35) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $12.35

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Aces).
SB had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Queens and tens).
Outcome: SB won $11.75

raunooo
03.09.09, 14:48
NL25 graafik ja statid.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3615/nl25stakegraph.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1143/nl25stakestats.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9408/nl25stakeposition.jpg

antnx
03.09.09, 15:35
Nl25 on üks raskemaid limiite. Olen mänginud seda ja seal ka kõige sitemini jooksnud. Mängisin everestis ja seal mingi 10k käsi ja jäin 1 buy ini miinusesse. Absolute pokerist rääkimata, seal olin Nl25 stabiilselt kaotav. Nl50 asjad muutusid. Raske öelda miks.

Sul veits nitid statsid mis kõlbaksid FR-i aga see ilmselt seotud **** kaardijooksuga. Kogu enesekindlust nl10 ja lenda 25 peale uue hooga küll tulema hakkab. Võta veits loosemaks ka.

Ei oskagi väga teisi soovitusi anda. Las teised kah aitavad

marguzz22
03.09.09, 15:40
selliste statidega ei saa 6max mängida. MIne fr , sa vist ei kaitse blinde

-andres-
03.09.09, 15:59
Obv on see short run, aga selle ajaga nl25's 10bi kaotada, sisi kuskil peavad kindlasti suured leakid sees olema. Neid statidelt ega graafikult paraku välja ei loe.

Kindlasti nagu antnx ja marguzz ütlesid, peaksid kõvasti loosemaks tõmbama, vaatasin minagi, et mängid FR'i mitte 6maxi.

2. käsi on ka spewy, flopil pole mõtet nuppe sisse ajada :/.

raunooo
03.09.09, 18:27
selliste statidega ei saa 6max mängida. MIne fr , sa vist ei kaitse blinde

No ma ei vaidle, et statid on üsna nitised, aga 4k käega ei saagi kõigi statid 20/18 olla. Nii väikese sample põhjal loeb kaardijooks kindlasti rohkem, kui miski 40k käe jooksul. Okei, see selleks praegu. Ma ei kujuta eriti ette praegu, et kuidas loosemaks tõmmata. No ofc tuleb käte range laiendada, aga mis positsioonilt ja mis käed ma peaksin siis lisama enda range? Seda tahaks teada. Ülihea oleks, kui saaks kellegagi, kes jagab 6 maxi, koos väikse sessi teha. Tänapäeval saab ju isegi nii, et kumbki kodust ei liigu. Arvan, et see oleks väga kasulik. Keegi julgeks end välja pakkuda? ???
Mitu lauda te 6 max grinderid üldse lasete? Ma ise lasen tavaliselt mingi 8 või 9, äkki sellepärast ka statid nii nitised, et mäng palju kiirem ja selle tõttu lendavad kohati täiesti mängitavad käed mucki? Mitu lauda oleks soovitatav lasta?


Obv on see short run, aga selle ajaga nl25's 10bi kaotada, sisi kuskil peavad kindlasti suured leakid sees olema. Neid statidelt ega graafikult paraku välja ei loe.

Kindlasti nagu antnx ja marguzz ütlesid, peaksid kõvasti loosemaks tõmbama, vaatasin minagi, et mängid FR'i mitte 6maxi.

2. käsi on ka spewy, flopil pole mõtet nuppe sisse ajada :/.

No ma ei tea kui suured leakid sees on, aga suht enamus käed olen vist siia varem ka postitanud (millega olen kaotanud), et nende järgi saab ju öelda, et kas olen mõne käe valesti mänginud või ei ja et kus vea tegin (e. kus leak on)?!
Näiteks ässadega -$70 so far. Et coolereid ja beate on nagu suht palju olnud imo. Ma ei ütle, et ma olen kõik käed 100% õieti mänginud, aga -10BI 4k käega on imo siiski midagi muud ka, kui lihtsalt bad play. :-\

marguzz22
03.09.09, 22:18
No ma ei vaidle, et statid on üsna nitised, aga 4k käega ei saagi kõigi statid 20/18 olla. Nii väikese sample põhjal loeb kaardijooks kindlasti rohkem, kui miski 40k käe jooksul. Okei, see selleks praegu. Ma ei kujuta eriti ette praegu, et kuidas loosemaks tõmmata. No ofc tuleb käte range laiendada, aga mis positsioonilt ja mis käed ma peaksin siis lisama enda range? Seda tahaks teada. Ülihea oleks, kui saaks kellegagi, kes jagab 6 maxi, koos väikse sessi teha. Tänapäeval saab ju isegi nii, et kumbki kodust ei liigu. Arvan, et see oleks väga kasulik. Keegi julgeks end välja pakkuda? ???
Mitu lauda te 6 max grinderid üldse lasete? Ma ise lasen tavaliselt mingi 8 või 9, äkki sellepärast ka statid nii nitised, et mäng palju kiirem ja selle tõttu lendavad kohati täiesti mängitavad käed mucki? Mitu lauda oleks soovitatav lasta?No ma ei tea kui suured leakid sees on, aga suht enamus käed olen vist siia varem ka postitanud (millega olen kaotanud), et nende järgi saab ju öelda, et kas olen mõne käe valesti mänginud või ei ja et kus vea tegin (e. kus leak on)?!
Näiteks ässadega -$70 so far. Et coolereid ja beate on nagu suht palju olnud imo. Ma ei ütle, et ma olen kõik käed 100% õieti mänginud, aga -10BI 4k käega on imo siiski midagi muud ka, kui lihtsalt bad play. :-\


wooow võta 4lauda max 5

tdx
03.09.09, 22:34
Sample size liiga väike obviously, aga. Ma võtaks agressiivsust maha, calliks rohkem IP ja 3betiks vähem. Sa tahad fishidega floppi näha ja valuebettida oma häid käsi. Praktiliselt kõik su profitist peaks tulema valuebettimisest postflop (SD winnings), mitte agressiivselt fishide potist välja pushimisest (non-sd joonest), seda enam, et NL25 keegi niikuinii ei foldi. Blindide mängu pead väga hoolikalt ka uurima endal, tundub et kaitsed liiga vähe.

antnx
04.09.09, 01:34
Hit me in msn ja lepime sessi aja kokku! Mul ükskõik mis limiiti mängid ja teeme 4 lauda max

raunooo
04.09.09, 08:08
Hit me in msn ja lepime sessi aja kokku! Mul ükskõik mis limiiti mängid ja teeme 4 lauda max

Super, lisasin msni. :)

alaska
04.09.09, 13:49
Estpatrickul on siin kuskil 6max NL25 video, seal on palju häid nõuandeid. 4 lauda max minuarust kah ja ole üliloose CO ja buttonilt, kui vastu hakkavad mängima, tõmba korraks tagasi ja siis lase uuesti edasi. Sa PEAD saama oma PFR 20 juurde või üle, muidu ei võida isegi NL10-s.

Lutzky
04.09.09, 13:53
Estpatrickul on siin kuskil 6max NL25 video, seal on palju häid nõuandeid. 4 lauda max minuarust kah ja ole üliloose CO ja buttonilt, kui vastu hakkavad mängima, tõmba korraks tagasi ja siis lase uuesti edasi. Sa PEAD saama oma PFR 20 juurde või üle, muidu ei võida isegi NL10-s.


vpip% ikka 20 juures või üle?

krayzie
04.09.09, 13:55
ma võin ka mängu vaadata

ja pfr 20 jutt on lol

antnx
04.09.09, 14:21
Teeme meie oma foorumi coaching tree. Ma tuleks ka vaatama kui krayzie vaatab :D. Imo võiks sellest täitsa video teha. 3 erineva taseme mängijat arutavad asja üle.

krayzie
04.09.09, 15:42
võib ju proovida

raunooo
04.09.09, 16:00
Estpatrickul on siin kuskil 6max NL25 video, seal on palju häid nõuandeid. 4 lauda max minuarust kah ja ole üliloose CO ja buttonilt, kui vastu hakkavad mängima, tõmba korraks tagasi ja siis lase uuesti edasi. Sa PEAD saama oma PFR 20 juurde või üle, muidu ei võida isegi NL10-s.

Jep, olen vaadanud tema NL25 6-max videosid.


ma võin ka mängu vaadata

No see oleks ikka väga hea. :) Äkki saadaksid msni vms, saaks täpsemalt rääkida?

alaska
04.09.09, 16:34
vpip% ikka 20 juures või üle?


Jah, ikka Vpip%

camu
04.09.09, 21:32
Ma vaataks ka! Rohkem enda pärast!

raunooo
08.09.09, 19:02
Nii, tegin täna 4 lauda NL10 ja püüdsin teadlikult olla agressiivsem in position. Ja tasuks selle eest ligikaudu +4BI. :)

Krayzie, antnx - millal sessi teeme? Homme õhtupoole sobiks?

antnx
08.09.09, 19:33
Mul oli mandliopp niiet minust väga suurt jutumeest ei ole. Kuulama tuleks ikka

camu
08.09.09, 20:40
Krayzie, antnx - millal sessi teeme? Homme õhtupoole sobiks?

Kui kusagil 6 ajal, siis mulle sobiks:D

Lutzky
08.09.09, 22:46
tuleks ka vahtima..aga homme sobiks alles mingi 21+

edit: kui mudu ei saa, siis ka varem...mingi 19.30+ saan pigistada...piinarikkalt

krayzie
08.09.09, 22:50
homme võib teha aga ilma minuta

slapi mind kui msn'is viibin

raunooo
09.09.09, 15:34
No teeme vast ikka nii, et krayzie ka saaks.

Lutzky
09.09.09, 15:38
No teeme vast ikka nii, et krayzie ka saaks.


obv...

raunooo
11.09.09, 12:57
Masendav session.



1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($22.45)
MP ($17.15)
Hero (CO) ($11.60)
Button ($12.90)
SB ($20.70)
BB ($3.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.50, 2 folds, BB calls $0.40, UTG calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.65) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
BB bets $2.65 (All-In), UTG calls $2.65, Hero raises $10.85, UTG raises $16.40, Hero calls $0.25 (All-In)

Turn: ($26.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($26.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $26.50

Results:
BB had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (flush, King high).
UTG had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (flush, King high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: UTG won $33.15

2. Flopil oleks pidanud tulistama, eks?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($19)
Hero (SB) ($10.15)
BB ($4.65)
UTG ($15.10)
MP ($10.05)
CO ($15.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, Button bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.20, 1 fold, Button calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.60) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($2.60) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.05, Button calls $2.05

River: ($6.70) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4.45, Button raises $8.90, Hero calls $2.40 (All-In)

Total pot: $20.40

Results:
Button had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Button won $21.45

3.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($19.15)
Hero (CO) ($12.20)
Button ($4.65)
SB ($8.60)
BB ($10.50)
UTG ($10.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($1.90) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises $3, Hero raises $9.80 (All-In), SB calls $4.70 (All-In)

River: ($17.30) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $17.30

Results:
SB had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, fives).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and nines).
Outcome: SB won $16.45

4.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($11.50)
Hero (MP) ($10.15)
Button ($14.05)
SB ($11)
BB ($12.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
UTG bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.25, 3 folds, UTG raises $3.10, Hero raises $8.90 (All-In), UTG calls $6.65

Flop: ($20.45) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($20.45) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.45) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.45

Results:
UTG had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, tens).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: UTG won $19.45

5.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($10.65)
MP ($3.40)
CO ($2.65)
Button ($11.50)
SB ($9.05)
Hero (BB) ($12.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
2 folds, CO bets $0.40, 2 folds, Hero raises $1.15, CO raises $2.25 (All-In), Hero calls $1.40

Flop: ($5.35) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($5.35) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($5.35) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $5.35

Results:
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and twos).
CO had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and nines).
Outcome: CO won $5.10

6.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($10.45)
CO ($8.80)
Hero (Button) ($10)
SB ($7.90)
BB ($18.25)
UTG ($9.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises $0.95, 2 folds, Hero raises $2.70, SB raises $6.90 (All-In), Hero calls $4.70

Flop: ($16) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($16) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($16) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $16

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: SB won $15.20

7.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($20.65)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($13.25)
UTG ($10.95)
MP ($13.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, MP bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises $1.20, BB calls $1.15, MP raises $3.50, Hero raises $8.75 (All-In), 1 fold, MP calls $6.10

Flop: ($21.25) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($21.25) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($21.25) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $21.25

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
MP had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, Aces over fours).
Outcome: MP won $20.20

Lutzky
11.09.09, 13:10
1. Midaiganes.
2. Oleks. Standard ju. Sitasti mängitud, imo
3. Turni check-raise = üldjuhul NUTS
4. Mulle ei meeldi AK preflop allinni üldjuhul minna (va shortied ja kindla readi puhul). Ise ajad variatsiooni suureks.
5. ATo on 3bet käsi?
6. JJ on 4bet käsi?
7. Vt punkt 4

raunooo
11.09.09, 16:26
Tänud Lutzky.
AK olen kohati way üle mänginud jah, saan sellest ise ka aru ning ei mängi AK-d enam nii agressiivselt, eriti OOP.
ATo, mnjaa. Ega see polegi mul mingi regular 3bet käsi OOP ja õigem tegu oleks fold vb olnud jah, aga sain nupud sisse ees olles. Kindlasti ma ei 3beti any ATo BB-lt. Harva, julgeks öelda.
JJ-ga 4-bet selle pärast, et 3bet oli lihtsalt nii gei, oleks ta lükanud mingi 1.50+ siis oleksin obv callinud. Mõistan, et kui tavaiselt tuleb selline gei 3bet ja veel OOP, siis 4bet on vale JJ-ga jah, sest tavaliselt tehakse imo selliseid gei 3bette AA, KK, QQ-ga, aga jah, nupud oleks vist sisse läinud nkn, aga oleks saanud paremini mängida küll.

raunooo
11.09.09, 17:25
1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($7.45)
Hero (Button) ($10.40)
SB ($10)
BB ($17.05)
UTG ($11)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises $1.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.65) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.90, UTG raises $5.90, Hero raises $7.25 (All-In), UTG calls $3.25

Turn: ($20.95) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.95) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.95

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, Kings over Aces).
UTG had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, Aces over Kings).
Outcome: UTG won $19.95

2.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($7.10)
Button ($4.70)
Hero (SB) ($11.10)
BB ($20.55)
UTG ($15.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.45, 1 fold, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.10) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, MP raises $1.80, Hero raises $2.50, MP raises $4.80 (All-In), Hero calls $3.20

Turn: ($14.30) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.30) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.30

Results:
Hero had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, fives and fours).
MP had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, nines and fours).
Outcome: MP won $13.60


Äkki pokker ongi õnnemäng?

raunooo
11.09.09, 17:28
Täna jooksen ikka kenasti EV joonest 6 BI allpool.

alaska
11.09.09, 18:25
1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($7.45)
Hero (Button) ($10.40)
SB ($10)
BB ($17.05)
UTG ($11)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises $1.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.65) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.90, UTG raises $5.90, Hero raises $7.25 (All-In), UTG calls $3.25

Turn: ($20.95) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.95) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.95

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, Kings over Aces).
UTG had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, Aces over Kings).
Outcome: UTG won $19.95

2.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($7.10)
Button ($4.70)
Hero (SB) ($11.10)
BB ($20.55)
UTG ($15.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.45, 1 fold, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.10) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, MP raises $1.80, Hero raises $2.50, MP raises $4.80 (All-In), Hero calls $3.20

Turn: ($14.30) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.30) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.30

Results:
Hero had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, fives and fours).
MP had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, nines and fours).
Outcome: MP won $13.60


Äkki pokker ongi õnnemäng?


Selle teise käe puhul ma küll oma rahasid keskele ei paneks.

raunooo
12.09.09, 14:00
Selle teise käe puhul ma küll oma rahasid keskele ei paneks.

Hea riid oli.

Lutzky
12.09.09, 14:02
Millal ühine sess tuleb?

raunooo
12.09.09, 14:35
Millal ühine sess tuleb?

No ma ei tea, võiks mingi aja kokku leppida, sest mul on pmst savi millal teha, et minu taga ei seisa. Krayzie, Lutzky - millal teile sobiks?

Lutzky
12.09.09, 15:07
Pakun teisipäeva kella 21 paiku.

L.

raunooo
12.09.09, 20:07
Pakun teisipäeva kella 21 paiku.

L.

No mulle ilmselt sobiks, ootame siis mida Krayzie arvab.

krayzie
12.09.09, 20:19
slapi mind kui msn'is viibin

antnx
12.09.09, 22:32
Tulen ka siis!

raunooo
13.09.09, 14:41
Mm, kuna mul teisipäeval täpselt kell 21:00 trios Premier League turka, siis leppisime Krayzie'ga kokku, et teeme pmst siis, kui mul turka lõppeb. Sobib teile, Lutzky, antnx?

Lutzky
13.09.09, 14:43
Mm, kuna mul teisipäeval täpselt kell 21:00 trios Premier League turka, siis leppisime Krayzie'ga kokku, et teeme pmst siis, kui mul turka lõppeb. Sobib teile, Lutzky, antnx?


jepp

mis proged pean alla tõmbama...mikogo vms?

antnx
13.09.09, 14:54
okk

mikogo skyper

Lutzky
13.09.09, 14:58
olemas

raunooo
15.09.09, 21:32
Lennake msni nüüd, ma olen out.

Lutzky
15.09.09, 21:33
ma ei kasuta msni. viska mikogo id, tulen sinna

camu
15.09.09, 22:07
mulleka, või skype

raunooo
15.09.09, 22:17
Eem, mikogo ei kannata vist nii palju rahvast. :-\

raunooo
16.09.09, 00:02
Nii, kerge coaching session siis tehtud. Kindlasti oli abi, tänud Krayzie.

Lutzky
16.09.09, 00:03
tänud ka minu poolt

Lutzky
16.09.09, 09:42
viska tehtud sessiooni statte ka

raunooo
17.09.09, 10:05
viska tehtud sessiooni statte ka

No statid on imo suht ebaolulised, sest need ei väljenda seda kasulikku, mida ma teada sain. :) Aga noh, võin ju panna ka mõned.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7018/coachingsessionstats.jpg

raunooo
17.09.09, 12:21
Tra küll, iga fckn session sama teema. >:(

1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) ($13.05)
BB ($13.05)
UTG ($10.70)
MP ($5.35)
CO ($7.85)
Button ($10.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, MP bets $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises $0.75, BB calls $0.70, MP calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.40) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $1.90, BB raises $4.50, 1 fold, Hero raises $10.35 (All-In), BB calls $7.75 (All-In)

Turn: ($26.90) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($26.90) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $26.90

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Kings and fives).
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: BB won $25.60

2.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($19.20)
Button ($20)
SB ($10)
BB ($5.60)
UTG ($3.20)
Hero (MP) ($11.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, Button raises $1.20, 2 folds, Hero raises $3.90, Button raises $18.80 (All-In), Hero calls $6.95 (All-In)

Flop: ($22.45) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($22.45) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($22.45) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $22.45

Results:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $30.20

raunooo
17.09.09, 12:37
Tra, see pole normaalne, kui ma jooksen EV joonest 9 buy inni all pool, ühtegi showdowni ei võida, vahet pole kui ees olen. Minu mõistus hakkab vaikselt otsa saama.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2677/nl10graph.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2163/nl10a.jpg

kuco
17.09.09, 15:04
Tra, see pole normaalne, kui ma jooksen EV joonest 9 buy inni all pool, ühtegi showdowni ei võida, vahet pole kui ees olen. Minu mõistus hakkab vaikselt otsa saama.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2163/nl10a.jpg


kas nagu liiga tight ei ole?

antnx
17.09.09, 17:52
Ei 18/16 on täitsa ok multitabledes.

raunooo
29.09.09, 15:39
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6592/nl10graafik10kksi.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8530/nl10statid10kksi.jpg

kuco
29.09.09, 23:13
Starsi NL10 6max?

Olen ise ka seda see kuu mänginud parasjagu. Peaks ühiseid sessione tegema ja arutama asju.
Lisa mind MSNi

raunooo
03.10.09, 13:50
Starsi NL10 6max?

Olen ise ka seda see kuu mänginud parasjagu. Peaks ühiseid sessione tegema ja arutama asju.
Lisa mind MSNi

Lisasin.

raunooo
03.10.09, 13:51
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8205/kolmasoktoober.jpg

antnx
03.10.09, 17:25
Ma seal starsi nl10 6maxi aeg ajalt lihtsalt lammutanud. Suht sellinne nitine tundub see teema seal.

raunooo
12.10.09, 13:24
Arvan, et olen nüüd aru saanud, kuidas NL10-t biitida. Graafik praegu küll veel miinuses, aga ma loodan, et ei lähe enam kaua. Tuleb grindida.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/835/nl1016385kttgraafik.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3197/nl1016385kttstatid.jpg

kivisaba
12.10.09, 19:17
heh vaataks nagu enda statte :D

antnx
13.10.09, 16:30
Ära roni niipalju Showdownile 22-23 on paras. 25 ilmselgelt liiga palju. W$SD on selletõttu 47. Ideaalis 52-53.

ranka
13.10.09, 17:55
Ära roni niipalju Showdownile 22-23 on paras. 25 ilmselgelt liiga palju. W$SD on selletõttu 47. Ideaalis 52-53.


Mul viimasel ajal WTSD alla 26% polegi.... See kuu 27% üle 36k käe ja ma ei ütleks, et see vale on.

Paar teist regulli ka:
Sellel 31% wtsd:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/Tarjei82'] (http://'http://www.pokertableratings.com/graphs/t/tarjei82/profit-stars.png[/img]

Sellel 28%:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/Kelisitaan'] (http://'http://www.pokertableratings.com/graphs/k/kelisitaan/profit-stars.png[/img]

Sellel 27%:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/justforfunds'] (http://'http://www.pokertableratings.com/graphs/j/justforfunds/profit-stars.png[/img]

Selllel 28%:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/pterodactyl6'] (http://'http://www.pokertableratings.com/graphs/p/pterodactyl6/profit-stars.png[/img]

On ka erandeid:
Sellel 22%:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/13_Xerxes_13'] (http://'http://www.pokertableratings.com/graphs/1/13_xerxes_13/profit-stars.png[/img]

Sellel 23%:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/plyboy_binny'] (http://'http://www.pokertableratings.com/graphs/p/plyboy_binny/profit-stars.png[/img]

Sellel 21%:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/WrongButton'] (http://'http://www.pokertableratings.com/graphs/w/wrongbutton/profit-stars.png[/img]

Rohkem häid mängijaid meelde ei tule. Seega tehke omad järeldused.

kuco
13.10.09, 20:35
Mina soovitasin Raunool üle vaadata oma riveri callid ja üldse riveri mängu.

Kindlasti ehk leiab seal olukord kus poleks pidanud callima või line oli vale. check-call on tihti hullem kui bet-fold.

vapsik
14.10.09, 01:18
Mul viimasel ajal WTSD alla 26% polegi.... See kuu 27% üle 36k käe ja ma ei ütleks, et see vale on.

Paar teist regulli ka:
Sellel 31% wtsd:





Aga need Sinud näited on kõi FR kohta ju? Või pole vahet sellel, kas 6-max või FR?

ranka
14.10.09, 07:15
Aga need Sinud näited on kõi FR kohta ju? Või pole vahet sellel, kas 6-max või FR?


Pole 6maxi mänginud suures koguses ja puusalt tulistan, et vahet ei tohiks olla ja pigem vastupidi, et mida vähem mängijaid lauas, seda rohkem tuleks showdownile minna. Loogikaks võtan selle, et mängijate mängivad nõrgremaid käsi, millega on raskem 3 tänavat valuebettida ning tihti on piisab väga nõrgast käest, et võita showdown.

camu
14.10.09, 14:06
Samas on 6maxi range laiem, seega teeb sama välja.

lenC
14.10.09, 15:10
Mul WTSD koguaeg 27+ olnud, samas mängustiil natuke omapärane ka, palju riveri gaybette jms, mis seda otseselt mõjutab. Samas vpip tubli 10% suurem ka.

antnx
14.10.09, 15:17
Kas kõrgem WTSD tähendab ka somewhat suuremat variatsiooni?

lenC
14.10.09, 15:20
Ei usu, et oluliselt, pigem mängid rohkem väikseid potte, mis niiväga ei mõjuta.

raunooo
19.10.09, 12:53
Hmm, üks kehvemaid nädalaid oli kahjuks. Seis oli vahepeal juba täitsa kena, -4,5BI kõigest, kui aga tuli paar-kolm "ilusat" miinussessi. Käsi mängitud NL10-s 21k ja seis -11BI.

Mõned käed mis tõmbasid miinust:
1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($22.20)
Button ($7)
SB ($9.90)
BB ($2.50)
Hero (UTG) ($10)
MP ($12.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, Button raises $1, 1 fold, Hero raises $3, Button raises $5, Hero raises $5, Button calls $0.70 (All-In)

Turn: ($14.35) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.35) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.35

Results:
Button had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Queens).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $13.65

2.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($4.15)
UTG ($9.05)
Hero (MP) ($10)
CO ($1.55)
Button ($13.50)
SB ($10.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, SB raises $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.70) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.90) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

River: ($6.90) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2.80, Hero raises $6.60 (All-In), SB calls $3.80

Total pot: $20.10

Results:
SB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: SB won $19.15

3.
Turnis suht kindel fold, aga mitte ei tahtnud uskuda vist, et jälle hittis. :S Sest üldiselt peab paika, et turni raise = nuts.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($10.25)
BB ($9.25)
UTG ($12.70)
Hero (MP) ($10)
Button ($19.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.30, BB raises $3.20, Hero calls $1.90

River: ($8.35) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $5.25 (All-In), Hero calls $5.25

Total pot: $18.85

Results:
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and sixes).
Outcome: BB won $17.95

4.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($5.85)
MP ($10)
Button ($5.40)
Hero (SB) ($11.25)
BB ($9.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.45, BB calls $0.40, 1 fold, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.90, BB calls $0.90, MP calls $0.90

Turn: ($4.30) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70, BB calls $1.70

River: ($9.40) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $3.20, Hero calls $3.20, 1 fold

Total pot: $15.80

Results:
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, nines).
MP had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, nines and fours).
Outcome: MP won $15.05

5.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($6)
BB ($22.95)
UTG ($11.10)
Hero (MP) ($10)
CO ($4.85)
Button ($2.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, SB raises $1.05, 1 fold, Hero raises $9.70 (All-In), SB calls $4.90 (All-In)

Flop: ($12.10) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($12.10) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($12.10) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $12.10

Results:
SB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (straight, King high).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: SB won $11.50

6.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($21.45)
UTG ($10.50)
MP ($6.45)
CO ($10.70)
Button ($10.30)
Hero (SB) ($11.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.45, 1 fold, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40, 1 fold

Turn: ($4.40) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3.70, Hero raises $9.65 (All-In), Button calls $4.70 (All-In)

River: ($21.20) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $21.20

Results:
Button had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, eights).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: Button won $20.15

7.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($15.40)
UTG ($2.35)
MP ($10.20)
CO ($8.20)
Hero (Button) ($10.20)
SB ($10.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.20, CO calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.35) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.80, CO calls $1.40

River: ($6.95) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
CO bets $4.80 (All-In), Hero calls $4.80

Total pot: $16.55

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Jacks).
CO had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Queens and fours).
Outcome: CO won $15.75

8.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($15.55)
Button ($1.25)
SB ($4.65)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($31.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, Button calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.80) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.20, SB calls $0.80

River: ($4.20) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Total pot: $8.20

Results:
SB had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (flush, King high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and twos).
Outcome: SB won $7.80

kuco
19.10.09, 13:27
Hmm, üks kehvemaid nädalaid oli kahjuks. Seis oli vahepeal juba täitsa kena, -4,5BI kõigest, kui aga tuli paar-kolm "ilusat" miinussessi. Käsi mängitud NL10-s 21k ja seis -11BI.

Mõned käed mis tõmbasid miinust:
1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($22.20)
Button ($7)
SB ($9.90)
BB ($2.50)
Hero (UTG) ($10)
MP ($12.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, Button raises $1, 1 fold, Hero raises $3, Button raises $5, Hero raises $5, Button calls $0.70 (All-In)

Turn: ($14.35) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.35) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.35

Results:
Button had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Queens).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $13.65

Mina keeldun ülepaar maha viskamast, kui selline preflop mäng on olnud.

2.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($4.15)
UTG ($9.05)
Hero (MP) ($10)
CO ($1.55)
Button ($13.50)
SB ($10.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, SB raises $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.70) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.90) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

River: ($6.90) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2.80, Hero raises $6.60 (All-In), SB calls $3.80

Total pot: $20.10

Results:
SB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: SB won $19.15

Cooler aga minu meelest tuleks turnis otsa panna. Sul on ikkagi 2nd nuts

3.


Turnis suht kindel fold, aga mitte ei tahtnud uskuda vist, et jälle hittis. :S Sest üldiselt peab paika, et turni raise = nuts.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($10.25)
BB ($9.25)
UTG ($12.70)
Hero (MP) ($10)
Button ($19.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.30, BB raises $3.20, Hero calls $1.90

River: ($8.35) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $5.25 (All-In), Hero calls $5.25

Total pot: $18.85

Results:
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and sixes).
Outcome: BB won $17.95


Riveriks biitisid ainult Jx ärtuga.

4.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($5.85)
MP ($10)
Button ($5.40)
Hero (SB) ($11.25)
BB ($9.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.45, BB calls $0.40, 1 fold, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.90, BB calls $0.90, MP calls $0.90

Turn: ($4.30) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70, BB calls $1.70

River: ($9.40) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $3.20, Hero calls $3.20, 1 fold

Total pot: $15.80

Preflop raise rohkem ... 4BB + limperid + OOP, = $0.7 oleks palju parem
Flopis veidi rohkem cbetina ... TPTK aka nuts ja väga drawheavy board on.


5.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($6)
BB ($22.95)
UTG ($11.10)
Hero (MP) ($10)
CO ($4.85)
Button ($2.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, SB raises $1.05, 1 fold, Hero raises $9.70 (All-In), SB calls $4.90 (All-In)

Flop: ($12.10) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($12.10) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($12.10) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $12.10

Results:
SB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (straight, King high).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: SB won $11.50


Tahtis välja teha aga ei õnnestunud.


6.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($21.45)
UTG ($10.50)
MP ($6.45)
CO ($10.70)
Button ($10.30)
Hero (SB) ($11.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.45, 1 fold, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40, 1 fold

Turn: ($4.40) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3.70, Hero raises $9.65 (All-In), Button calls $4.70 (All-In)

River: ($21.20) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $21.20

Results:
Button had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, eights).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: Button won $20.15


Preflop 3bet 1.6 - 1.7 peale ja flopis broke
Turnis keerasid põhimõtteliselt oma TPTK käe bluffiks
Vaata vastase betsizingut. 2 tänavat oli pannud praktiliselt poti. Note kirja, et betib mosteriga palju...


7.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($15.40)
UTG ($2.35)
MP ($10.20)
CO ($8.20)
Hero (Button) ($10.20)
SB ($10.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.20, CO calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.35) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.80, CO calls $1.40

River: ($6.95) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
CO bets $4.80 (All-In), Hero calls $4.80

Total pot: $16.55

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Jacks).
CO had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Queens and fours).
Outcome: CO won $15.75

Preflop $0.5 ka flopi donkbetidele pane palju otsa. 3x on vähe kui just ei ole read, et ta teeb seda tugeva käega.
85+% juhtudest on seal draw või weak made hand.


8.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($15.55)
Button ($1.25)
SB ($4.65)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($31.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, Button calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.80) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.20, SB calls $0.80

River: ($4.20) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Total pot: $8.20

Results:
SB had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (flush, King high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and twos).
Outcome: SB won $7.80

Preflop raise rohkem ... $0.6
Flopis kindel raise ja kui callima hakkad siis ära turnis raisema küll hakka.

krayzie
19.10.09, 13:37
peale viienda käe on kõik lolbad awful. wtf ???

krayzie
19.10.09, 14:00
1. käes ma ei fänna flopis broke minemist. kui nupud sisse lähevad siis me kas flipime või oleme pikalt taga. pigem calli see minraise ja reeval turn. kui ükski draw ei hiti võib proovida maha callida ja odav showdown saada.
2. käes RAISE THE SHIT UP, sul on monster ikkagi, villain läheb seal flopil kasvõi iga pair+fd käega broke (+overpairid). sa tahad ju rahasi sisse saada aga kui callides mingeid 1/3 psb'si lased sa villainil odavalt drawida + tulevased streetid võivad tappa actioni.
3. tundub suht lihtne fold turnis, isegi kui callida siis riveril callides biidid sa....hmmm?
4. turn on maailma lihtsaim b/f.
5. std suht
6. 3bet pre oleks mõistlik. as played flat turn ja flat any river oleks loogilisem, me ei taha ju et ta halvemad käed foldiks.
7. Turn on suht kohutav. Selline kakaraise ei saavuta midagi. Emba kumba kas teha korraliku suurusega raise mis ei jäta riveriks sellist otsust või siis callid ja callid ka iga riveri.
8. preflop kahe limperi vastu on 3x bb vähe. flopis võib julgelt $1.2 peale tõsta, ükski kuningas ega mastitõmme seal ei niikunii foldi (prolly ka mõned madalamad paarid) ja Q turn ei muuda ka mitte midagi. As played on turni raise ka liiga väike.

antnx
19.10.09, 17:13
Wow tõesti kõik käed peale 5-ndat on horrible puke.

Never ära calli enam TPTK-ga flopil

raunooo
22.10.09, 17:08
See nädal 7k kätt siiamaani ja jooksen 5BI allpool EV-d. Kokku 27k käe peale jooksen 14 buy inni allpool EV-d! So sick. >:(

1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($9.30)
CO ($2)
Button ($10.30)
Hero (SB) ($19.70)
BB ($12.20)
UTG ($5.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, Button bets $0.30, Hero raises $1.25, BB raises $3.10, 1 fold, Hero raises $18.40 (All-In), BB calls $9 (All-In)

Flop: ($24.70) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($24.70) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($24.70) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $24.70

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: BB won $23.50

2.
Vastane oli donk stattidega VPIP 90/PFR 33/AF 2.3/3b 7.7 125 kätt.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($10)
CO ($17.25)
Hero (Button) ($10.95)
SB ($11.20)
BB ($10.75)
UTG ($11.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
2 folds, CO bets $0.20, Hero raises $0.60, 2 folds, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.35) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1, CO raises $3, Hero raises $9.35 (All-In), CO calls $7.35

Turn: ($22.05) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($22.05) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $22.05

Results:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Queens).
CO had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Queens and tens).
Outcome: CO won $20.95

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($1.10)
CO ($6.40)
Button ($11.70)
SB ($13.70)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($10.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB bets $0.45, Hero raises $1.40, 1 fold, SB raises $2.40, Hero calls $1.40

Flop: ($5.90) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $4.70, Hero raises $7.10 (All-In), SB calls $2.40

Turn: ($20.10) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.10) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.10

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: SB won $19.15

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($7.05)
Hero (Button) ($13.75)
SB ($20.70)
BB ($13.75)
UTG ($10)
MP ($10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $0.30, SB raises $0.45, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.10) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero raises $1.60, SB raises $6.80, Hero raises $11.65 (All-In), SB calls $5.95

Turn: ($27.60) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($27.60) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $27.60

Results:
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and nines).
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (straight, Queen high).
Outcome: SB won $26.25

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($12.60)
BB ($14)
Hero (UTG) ($10.55)
MP ($4.70)
Button ($10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
Hero bets $0.30, 3 folds, BB raises $0.40, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.05) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.45) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.90, BB calls $1.90

River: ($6.25) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BB raises $7, Hero calls $3.50

Total pot: $20.25

Results:
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: BB won $19.30

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($7.35)
UTG ($7.85)
MP ($11.90)
Button ($10.50)
Hero (SB) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Button bets $0.70, Hero raises $2.05, 3 folds, Button raises $9.80 (All-In), Hero calls $7.90 (All-In)

Flop: ($20.30) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($20.30) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($20.30) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.30

Results:
Button had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: Button won $19.80

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($10.50)
SB ($14.35)
BB ($6)
Hero (UTG) ($10.10)
MP ($13.85)
CO ($10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, CO raises $1.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($2.75) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.05, Hero raises $5.10, CO raises $6.65 (All-In), Hero calls $3.60

Turn: ($20.15) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.15) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.15

Results:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (full house, sixes over Queens).
CO had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (full house, sixes over Kings).
Outcome: CO won $19.15

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($4.70)
Button ($10.25)
SB ($12.30)
Hero (BB) ($11.10)
UTG ($8.60)
MP ($10.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
UTG bets $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises $1.40, UTG raises $8.10 (All-In), Hero calls $7.10

Flop: ($17.25) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($17.25) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($17.25) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $17.25

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Kings and twos).
UTG had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and twos).
Outcome: UTG won $16.40

antnx
22.10.09, 19:08
7 käsi on valesti mängitud. Flopil peaks foldima või siis preflop foldima. Otsuse teed ise.

raunooo
23.10.09, 12:30
7 käsi on valesti mängitud. Flopil peaks foldima või siis preflop foldima. Otsuse teed ise.

Kui ta flopil tulistas, siis suht mõtlesin ise ka, et ilmselt võib olla KK või AA, aga ma ei tea, siis mõtlesin, et no 2 kätt mis mind biidivad, et krt kui on KK või AA, no et siis on, siis lähen broke. Aga jah, pean õppima foldima selliseid käsi vahel.

camu
23.10.09, 16:50
2 käsi on ka kahtlane. Vaata checkraise protsenti. Preflop tõsta 80le.

raunooo
31.10.09, 19:20
Kuu saame kokku võtta õnneks positiivsete uudistega, sest viimane nädal oli lihtsalt SUPER! Viimase 6k käega +25.5 BI. :) Tabasin ka lõpuks hiiterit vist. ::)

NL10 graafik ja statid.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5980/nl10336kktt.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7584/nl10336kkttstatid.jpg

raunooo
31.10.09, 19:22
Aa, SilverStar ka siis nüüd.

raunooo
06.11.09, 17:17
Sain siis uuesti Nl25 proovida, sest bankroll oli piisav ja see nädal olen mänginud 4586 kätt ja + $132.50.

Kogu graafik siis so far selline:
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raunooo
16.11.09, 11:53
Käsi 45k ja total profit $118.35 . Oli rahulikum nädal, aga katsun nüüd tempot lisada.

raunooo
10.12.09, 15:34
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3771/stake626kksi.jpg

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Lutzky
10.12.09, 15:43
hea, et lõpuks tulema hakkas. gg.

raunooo
08.01.10, 15:39
Uus aasta on küll "hästi" alanud, 5k käega -9BI.

raunooo
08.01.10, 15:39
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($61.05)
SB ($34)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($23.65)
MP ($26)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
2 folds, Button bets $1, SB calls $0.90, Hero raises $4.25, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50

Flop: ($10) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB raises $29.50 (All-In), Hero calls $14 (All-In)

Turn: ($51) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($51) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $51

Results:
SB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, nines and sixes).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: SB won $58

raunooo
16.01.10, 13:30
Otsustasin, et nüüdsest mängin ainult 4 lauda max! Kvaliteet > kvantiteet !

raunooo
27.01.10, 01:57
Deal is over, finally, ja rahad kilu6-le kantud. Panen siia graafiku ka. Pmst kui kilu6 kinnitab, et on rahad kätte saanud, siis võib teema lukku pista. :) Tänud kilule ja teistele, kes abiks on olnud. GL!
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