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ESTPatrick
17.11.09, 20:25
Kuulsin, et väga on popp on tänapäeval päevikuid pidada ja nüüd on minul kah.
olen nendes bokkerites võitnud ka ennem ja kavatsen võita ka tulevikus.

Kuidas domineerida laudades. Õppetund nr1.

*Võita ja võita palju
*Kui keegi kritiseerib mängu, siis öelda vastu heads-up for rolls, minimum 2NL and maximum 1 table.
*unreal.
*panustada nii palju kui võimalik, dongile niikuinii respekti keegi ei anna.

Õppetunni nr1 tõestus:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($632.85)
BB ($246.80)
UTG ($203)
MP ($216.25)
CO ($292.60)
Õpetaja Laur (Button) ($200)

Preflop: Õpetaja Laur is Button with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, MP bets $6, 1 fold, Õpetaja Laur raises to $20, 2 folds, MP calls $14

Flop: ($43) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Õpetaja Laur bets $24, MP calls $24

Turn: ($91) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Õpetaja Laur checks

River: ($91) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Õpetaja Laur bets $156 (All-In), MP calls $156

Total pot: $403 | Rake: $3

Results:
Õpetaja Laur had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (straight, eight high).
MP had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Õpetaja Laur won $400

Coach
http://arion.pri.ee/estpatrick/coach.doc

Seiklusjutte
http://foorum.pokkeriprod.com/showpost.php?p=161094&postcount=543

Artikkel notedest:
http://foorum.pokkeriprod.com/showthread.php?t=3916


Kokkuvõte starsi prodest kellega olen hiljuti mänginud:

Super Starsi PRO (imekombel on ta 200s plussis isegi. üsna suur üllatus oli seda näha) Ametlikult minu nr1 lemmik vastane starsis praegu. NUMBER ÜKS:

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/juanpastor

Agronoomika lõpetanud Starsi PRO, juba paljulubavamad statsid, tüüp ikka korralikult 10/20 ja 25/50 ka laamendanud, mis paneb tõdema et kui temast jagu ei saa, pole üleval lootustki

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/raszi

Ka mitte just super mängija, vahepeal mängis päris hoolega minuga samades laudades, nüüd pole nädal või nii enam näindu
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/assadourian

Nüüd olen mänginud ka joe hachem-ga. lihtsalt staarmängija
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/joehachem

varem olen mänginud ka moneymakeriga:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/money800

Enrique.P ; GavinGriffin

kunagi otsin ka iga pokerstaari pro kohta ka ühe käe milles oleme koos osalenud

pikk28
17.11.09, 20:28
lol - siit tuleb üks parimatest päevikutest :D. varsti lenci kord päevik teha. lõpuks Tigrano ka.
edu estpätrik

ESTPatrick
17.11.09, 21:22
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($210.40)
for value (BB) ($200)
UTG ($420.35)
Button ($200)

Preflop: for value is BB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, SB bets $6, for value raises to $18, SB raises to $38, for value raises to $58, SB raises to $78, for value calls $20

Flop: ($156) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $34, for value raises to $122 (All-In), SB calls $88

Turn: ($400) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($400) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $400 | Rake: $2

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (high card, Ace).
for value had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, fives).
Outcome: for value won $398

Owner85
17.11.09, 21:29
valusad käed,uskumatu read peab olema sul ja asja tundmine ikka,ilmselt kolmas meel ;)

ESTPatrick
17.11.09, 21:30
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MP ($184.05)
CO ($238)
for bluffvalue (Button) ($200)
SB ($231)
BB ($362.25)
UTG ($230.65)

Preflop: for bluffvalue is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, MP calls $2, 1 fold, for bluffvalue bets $10, 2 folds, MP calls $8

Flop: ($23) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP bets $8, for bluffvalue raises to $28, MP calls $20

Turn: ($79) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $10, for bluffvalue raises to $70, 1 fold

Total pot: $99 | Rake: $3

Results:
for bluffvalue didn't show Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (nothing).
Outcome: for bluffvalue won $96

ESTPatrick
17.11.09, 21:33
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CO ($223.65)
Button ($281)
SB ($160.80)
BB ($169)
UTG ($220.90)
Segadus (MP) ($236)

Preflop: Segadus is MP with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, Segadus bets $6, 1 fold, Button calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Segadus bets $10, Button calls $10

Turn: ($35) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Segadus bets $24, Button calls $24

River: ($83) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Segadus bets $55, Button calls $55

Total pot: $193 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Jacks and nines).
Segadus had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $190

Kuidas mängida riverit? ? Teades et vastane on light caller, olin suht kindel et paneb mu nuts või mitt millegi peale ja üldiselt talle meeldib siis kontrollida

alaska
17.11.09, 21:35
Paneks peaaegu poti sellise vastase vastu siin.

ESTPatrick
17.11.09, 22:12
sessioon lõppes ja üks õhku jäänud käsi oli ka, mille postitasin laiemaks aruteluks ka 6max foorumi. Kel mõtteid, võiks need seal avaldada.

http://foorum.pokkeriprod.com/index.php/topic,2704.msg119115.html#new

ESTPatrick
17.11.09, 22:20
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MP ($184.05)
CO ($238)
for bluffvalue (Button) ($200)
SB ($231)
BB ($362.25)
UTG ($230.65)

Preflop: for bluffvalue is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, MP calls $2, 1 fold, for bluffvalue bets $10, 2 folds, MP calls $8

Flop: ($23) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP bets $8, for bluffvalue raises to $28, MP calls $20

Turn: ($79) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $10, for bluffvalue raises to $70, 1 fold

Total pot: $99 | Rake: $3

Results:
for bluffvalue didn't show Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (nothing).
Outcome: for bluffvalue won $96



mõtlesin, et lisan siia oma mõttekäigu ka kuna olen tihti näinud et sellist olukorda mängitakse nii mööda kui võimalik.

Küsimus nr1. Milline käsi saab mul olla PF, Flopil, turnil enamus ajast?
Vasyus nr1. PF - väga lai range. Flopil, Keskmiselt AJ+ või semibluff JT, QT, QT või puhas rääbis. Turn uuesti lead out raise ja siin on väga oluline just panuse suurus, sellega eksides võib kaotada kogustäki või käesolev pot. Õige on raisida hinnanguliselt 3/4 potti koos turni vastase bettiga, milleks oli antud juhul 89 ja panin 70. Miks? lihtne kui panustame vähem ta callib tihedamini ja siis meil riveris FE puudub, kuna ta commited enamus ajast. pannes rohkem, kaotame me rohkem kui vastane ei kavatsenudki foldida. ilmselt oleks töö ära teinud ka miski 66 või veidi vähem. Antud raise peab iga mõtleva tohmani ka mõtlema panema et mul peab siin AQ+ olema

ESTPatrick
18.11.09, 01:29
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SB ($218.65)
readmaster72 (BB) ($267.65)
UTG ($372.45)
MP ($360.70)
CO ($218.35)
Button ($326.25)

Preflop: readmaster72 is BB with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
4 folds, SB bets $6, readmaster72 calls $4

Flop: ($12) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $8, readmaster72 raises to $20, SB calls $12

Turn: ($52) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $20, readmaster72 raises to $48, 1 fold

Total pot: $92 | Rake: $3

Results:
readmaster72 didn't show 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (nothing).
Outcome: readmaster72 won $89

Lutzky
18.11.09, 10:16
tubli

kuco
18.11.09, 11:39
Härra ei austa donkbettijaid? ;)

ESTPatrick
18.11.09, 11:46
Härra ei austa donkbettijaid? ;)


esimene oli lambidonk, mis oli suht standard. teine pika ajalooga regular, kellest olen veidi aru hakanud saama

ESTPatrick
18.11.09, 20:02
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Riskija (BB) ($225.40)
UTG ($200)
MP ($200)
CO ($228.95)
Button ($73.65)
SB ($764.45)

Preflop: Riskija is BB with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, Button calls $2, SB calls $1, Riskija checks

Flop: ($6) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Riskija bets $4, Button calls $4, 1 fold

Turn: ($14) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Riskija bets $8, Button raises to $20, Riskija raises to $40, Button raises to $67.65 (All-In), Riskija calls $27.65

River: ($149.30) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $149.30 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (high card, King).
Riskija had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (straight, seven high).
Outcome: Riskija won $146.30


Sessioon jätkub, ilmselt saan veel nuts vs nuts olukordi

ESTPatrick
18.11.09, 20:09
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Riskija (Button) ($268)
SB ($198)
BB ($200)
UTG ($207.95)
MP ($206.05)
CO ($98.60)

Preflop: Riskija is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, MP bets $6, CO calls $6, Riskija raises to $22, 3 folds, CO calls $16

Flop: ($53) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
CO bets $10, Riskija raises to $34, CO calls $24

Turn: ($121) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
CO checks, Riskija bets $92, CO calls $42.60 (All-In)

River: ($206.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $206.20 | Rake: $3

Results:
Riskija had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Queens).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: Riskija won $203.20

ESTPatrick
18.11.09, 20:22
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Konservatiiv (SB) ($201.80)
BB ($209.65)
UTG ($313.45)
MP ($200)
CO ($238.95)
Button ($166)

Preflop: Konservatiiv is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, MP bets $6, 1 fold, Button raises to $18, Konservatiiv raises to $48, 2 folds, Button calls $30

Flop: ($104) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Konservatiiv checks, Button bets $118 (All-In), Konservatiiv calls $118

Turn: ($340) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($340) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $340 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
Konservatiiv had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: Button won $337


Jube raske koht oli, mõtlesin suht kaua enne kui callisin, ei saanud aru miks ta peaks sellise beti A-ga panema, samas bluffimise jaoks oli olukord jällegi ideaalne, mõtteid?

Oliverk
18.11.09, 20:28
Pani sind mby käe peale ja mõtles et kui gaybet AI paneb siis mõtled sama mida ka mõtlesid :D ja callid.

ESTPatrick
18.11.09, 20:30
Pani sind mby käe peale ja mõtles et kui gaybet AI paneb siis mõtled sama mida ka mõtlesid :D ja callid.


pigem vaatas oma kätt ja oli nii õhinas, et mõtlemine sai tesisejärguliseks

lenn17
18.11.09, 20:34
Kui palju tehakse flopis bluff reis allinne. Laud on nii kuiv, et semibluffi olla ei saa. Järelikult kindel, et sai ässale pihta. Nüüd ta vist lootis, et sul AQ(Ax) ja callid ta allinni ära, sest pot 104, ja selle 118 callid ära, kui said samuti ässale pihta.

ei ole 6-maxi mängija

ESTPatrick
18.11.09, 20:37
no aga ma ei calli üldjuhul mitte ühegi mitte Ax käega. 99-JJ lähevad foldi enamjaolt kindlasti, seega ta biidbki ainult 3 kätt: KK, QQ, AQ. seega ta sisuliselt bluffib kehvemaid käsi välja oma suure panesega, lihtsalt tal vedas et minusuguse stationi vastu sattus. Ax oleks siin obv call kuid cold4bette alla AK JJ+ pannakse harva, eriti selle mängija vastu, sest ta polnud regular ja tugevad readid puudusid.

küll olen sellises olukorras aga näinud a la 64s tüüpi käsi

lenn17
18.11.09, 20:48
Aga need 64 käed jäävad lauas kohe silma ju. Vennad mängivad igat kätt koguaeg raisevad, panustavad. Tundub, et teda sa eriliseks dongiks ja fishiks ei pidanud. Võibolla, pika mõtlemise peale armusid emandatesse liigselt ära?

Seda küll, et ta bettib kehvemad käed välja, aga vbla oli tal just olnud biit, kus talle turnis või riveris ära tõmmati vms. Handhistory on selles suhtes asendamatu, kiirelt 20-30 kätt, mida vastane mängis ja mis toimus.

ESTPatrick
18.11.09, 20:49
midagi polnud olnud, väiksed potis aint. oli selline standard normal statsidega donk, kes midagi jagab kuid kogemust pole

lenn17
18.11.09, 21:00
No siis absoluutselt selge, et hittis oma A ära ja läks suurest õnnest lolliks noh. Need kellel kogemust pole ei saa aru, et nad betivad kehvemad käed potist välja. Ainuke asi, mida nad mõistavad, et kui neil masti ost siis callivad end allinni. Kui hitisid ära siis vajutavad allinni. Või bet pot, mis iganes.

alaska
18.11.09, 21:10
HU saab selline mees notes'i kirja ja tuleb 2 nädalat hiljem lauda ja jätkab samasuguseid liigutusi. Pikas perspektiivis kaotavad nad valuet sest nad ei tee sarnaseid bluffe tasakaalustamiseks.

ESTPatrick
19.11.09, 01:24
jess tegin hit n run sessiooni. Lihtsalt Super. 1 BI sain väikeste pottidega kokku aetud ja siis sain set vs set võidu ja panin lauad kinni.

öeldi veel et sul ei saa siin minust kehvem käsi olla ja tehti instacall regulari pealt

8c9cQd peal, mul 99 siis. Minumeelest ta eksis ikka tugevalt, fold seal on ikka marukehv. arvestades et c/r 15 to 45 flopil ja ta sisse lükkas. ma võisin vabalt sama ka mastiga teha ja ilmselt ka mõne muu lehega, kuid enamasti kas mastiga, 2 paarri või 99-ga, sest QQ oleksin ma ju PF 3bettinud

ESTPatrick
19.11.09, 21:45
Sessioon algas ja suht agrolt olen täna mängule lähenenud kuna positsioon laudades hea õigete regularide vastu erinevates laudades



2 suurt potti kohe sama vastase
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Kindlapeale mineja (SB) ($200)
BB ($205)
UTG ($208)
Button ($215)

Preflop: Kindlapeale mineja is SB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, Button bets $6, Kindlapeale mineja calls $5, BB raises to $25, Button calls $19, Kindlapeale mineja raises to $58, BB raises to $205 (All-In), 1 fold, Kindlapeale mineja calls $142 (All-In)

Flop: ($425) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($425) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($425) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $425 | Rake: $2

Results:
Kindlapeale mineja had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (full house, Jacks over nines).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (full house, Jacks over Kings).
Outcome: BB won $423


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UTG ($200)
MP ($231)
CO ($200)
Kindlapeale mineja (Button) ($211.10)
SB ($200)
BB ($200)

Preflop: Kindlapeale mineja is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, CO bets $6, Kindlapeale mineja raises to $18, 2 folds, CO raises to $46, Kindlapeale mineja calls $28

Flop: ($95) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
CO bets $42, Kindlapeale mineja raises to $130, CO raises to $154 (All-In), Kindlapeale mineja calls $24

Turn: ($403) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($403) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $403 | Rake: $3

Results:
Kindlapeale mineja had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (straight, Jack high).
CO had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Kindlapeale mineja won $400

ESTPatrick
19.11.09, 22:32
hakkab looma juba, mai teagi miks ma seda ktt üldse mängisin kuid nii ta läks

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MP ($236)
CO ($200)
Button ($205.30)
Kindlapeale mineja (SB) ($323.90)
BB ($378)
UTG ($380)

Preflop: Kindlapeale mineja is SB with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
4 folds, Kindlapeale mineja bets $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Kindlapeale mineja bets $8, BB calls $8

Turn: ($28) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Kindlapeale mineja bets $18, BB calls $18

River: ($64) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Kindlapeale mineja checks, BB checks

Total pot: $64 | Rake: $3

Results:
Kindlapeale mineja had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, nines and fours).
BB had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, nines and fours).
Outcome: Kindlapeale mineja won $30.50, BB won $30.50

ESTPatrick
19.11.09, 23:05
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Button ($207.40)
SB ($201)
BB ($200)
UTG ($235.35)
Kindlapeale mineja (MP) ($200)
CO ($197)

Preflop: Kindlapeale mineja is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, Kindlapeale mineja bets $6, CO raises to $12, Button raises to $30, 2 folds, [color=#CC3333]Kindlapeale mineja ? ?


KAS see on allinn või mitte, arvestades et mõlemad vastased on dongid

leits
19.11.09, 23:07
Mnjah tough spot ... vaataks donkide 3b, 4b % ... tihtijuhul saame flipi parimal juhul /vaevalt et nad AQga nii segaseks l2hevad/
FR on see oBV fold, aga 6max kohta hmm .. 2kki ship siis :D?

ESTPatrick
19.11.09, 23:12
no donkide kohta samplit puuduvad, muidu oleks ju lihtne otsus

leits
19.11.09, 23:14
no donkide kohta samplit puuduvad, muidu oleks ju lihtne otsus


sel juhul i fold

tolmuahv
19.11.09, 23:48
no donkide kohta samplit puuduvad, muidu oleks ju lihtne otsus


Kuivõrd sa oled Kindlapeale mineja, siis pigem vist fold? :)

Muidu 3-way allin AK-ga on nõrgavõitu, sest ühel neist vast ikka paar käes on ja mõni su out on blokeeritud väga tõenäoliselt. Kui AK-AK-QQ tüüpi all-in tuleb, siis tõmbame 31% tõenäosusega splitti ainult. Isegi AK-AQ-JJ on rubbish odds. Mingeid eriti nõrgemaid käsi ei näe siin callimas.

Lutzky
19.11.09, 23:58
mm...kas sa mängid ja oled foorumis samal ajal?

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 00:21
jah

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 00:56
sess läbi ja ei saagi aru mis seis jäi, enda arust jäin nulli, kuid hem on sessi alguse ära kaotanud.

väga aktsiooni heade kätega ei saanudki või siis suutsin kohe tagasi anda.

k1ly
20.11.09, 01:27
ka donkidel võivad käed olla. Aga mina lähenen asjale nii kui samplet ei ole . Kunagi madalamates limiitides ja veel suht donk olles mõtlesin et milleks on vaja flipata donkide vastu ? Et saab ka raha neilt kergemalt kätte , aga vot nüüd kui me flippi vastu ei võta , siis äkki võtab keegi teine talt järgmise käega raha ära ja donk on busto ning me jääme nö EZ moneyst ilma. + me ei pruugi koguaeg flipata võime ka ees olla ning võib ka tekkida nuts olukord kui ühel on QQ , teisel madalam paar , siis flippame pmst free money peale.

Seega ship it !

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 01:29
obv callisin ära. lihtsalt mõtlesin mida keskmine mängija teeb.

3bettor foldis, 4bettor näitas AKo ja split

Fortune
20.11.09, 05:35
ma ka shipiks tolles olukorras, AK is teh nuts. Leitsi ära kuula, ta on nit ;D ;D

Owner85
20.11.09, 14:51
lool

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:16
alustan sessiooniga, kuigi starsis harulaselt vähe rahvast online. Proovin siiski miskeid käsi välja tuua, mis meelelahutust pakuksid

Lutzky
20.11.09, 15:24
Kolisid Tallinna vä? Tee laudades kino ka obv.

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:35
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BB ($209)
UTG ($200)
perfict river bettor (Button) ($346.45)
SB ($200)

Preflop: perfict river bettor is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG bets $6, perfict river bettor calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $11, perfict river bettor calls $11

Turn: ($37) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $28, perfict river bettor calls $28

River: ($93) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, perfict river bettor bets $78, UTG calls $78

Total pot: $249 | Rake: $2

Results:
perfict river bettor had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Jacks).
UTG mucked 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: perfict river bettor won $247


vs regular, mängisin vähe timebankiga ka ja panin ebaratsionaalselt suure beti, nagu näha pani mind busted draw peale, ka nii saab weak top paarilt max valuet

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:37
tüüp lahkus sekund hiljem lauast

Lutzky
20.11.09, 15:38
owned

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:41
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Button ($217)
SB ($198)
BB ($237.50)
unreal ebaõnn (UTG) ($238.05)
MP ($216)
CO ($255)

Preflop: unreal ebaõnn is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
unreal ebaõnn bets $6, MP raises to $19, CO raises to $54, 3 folds, unreal ebaõnn calls $48, 1 fold

Flop: ($130) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
unreal ebaõnn bets $44, CO raises to $201 (All-In), unreal ebaõnn calls $140.05 (All-In)

Turn: ($498.10) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($498.10) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $498.10 | Rake: $3

Results:
unreal ebaõnn had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and fours).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and fours).
Outcome: unreal ebaõnn won $247.55, CO won $247.55

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:43
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MP ($307.25)
Button ($260.25)
mõtle neeger (SB) ($355.05)
BB ($394.25)
UTG ($206.35)

Preflop: mõtle neeger is SB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, MP bets $6, 1 fold, mõtle neeger raises to $22, BB calls $20, 1 fold

Flop: ($50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
mõtle neeger bets $28, BB calls $28

Turn: ($106) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
mõtle neeger bets $62, BB calls $62

River: ($230) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
mõtle neeger bets $243.05 (All-In), BB calls $243.05

Total pot: $716.10 | Rake: $2

Results:
mõtle neeger had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (flush, King high).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Outcome: mõtle neeger won $714.10

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:46
Kolisid Tallinna vä? Tee laudades kino ka obv.


jah

nummar
20.11.09, 15:46
haha AA vs AA on alati hea saada :D

leits
20.11.09, 15:48
mitut lauda sa 6maxi lase? 8-9?

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:48
mitut lauda sa 6maxi lase? 8-9?


praegu pole laude seega 7, muidu 9-11

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:49
nüüd 8

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:55
kui keegi peaks mingit lauda kogemata vaatama ja mõni küsimus: mis, miks, millega jne siis praegu saan ilmselt vastata kuna vähe laude

leits
20.11.09, 15:56
m2ngid paljalt?

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 15:57
nope, aitähh küsimast

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 16:01
fakk KK timeoutis

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 16:07
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pessimist (MP) ($375.10)
CO ($203.65)
Button ($252.55)
SB ($200)
BB ($247.55)
UTG ($200)

Preflop: pessimist is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, pessimist bets $6, 1 fold, Button calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
pessimist bets $10, Button calls $10

Turn: ($35) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
pessimist checks, Button bets $12, pessimist raises to $46, Button calls $34

River: ($127) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
pessimist bets $40, Button raises to $190.55 (All-In), pessimist folds

Total pot: $207 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button didn't show
Outcome: Button won $204

$$$
20.11.09, 16:08
miks sa paljalt ei mängi?

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 16:09
pole minu stiil

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 16:10
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Button ($209.35)
SB ($238.50)
karta ei tohi (BB) ($409.40)
UTG ($208.05)
MP ($20)
CO ($227.80)

Preflop: karta ei tohi is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
UTG bets $8, 3 folds, SB calls $7, karta ei tohi raises to $30, UTG calls $22, SB calls $22

Flop: ($90) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, karta ei tohi checks, UTG bets $44, SB calls $44, karta ei tohi raises to $379.40 (All-In), 2 folds

Total pot: $222 | Rake: $3

Results:
karta ei tohi didn't show Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (nothing).
Outcome: karta ei tohi won $219

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 16:18
belgje2: common donkey fish
ESTPatrick: me?
belgje2: fpp pro???? whoehahahah fpp DONK

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 16:19
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MP ($89)
Button ($222.85)
SB ($224.50)
karta ei tohi (BB) ($751.85)
UTG ($304.40)

Preflop: karta ei tohi is BB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, SB bets $6, karta ei tohi calls $4

Flop: ($12) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, karta ei tohi bets $8, SB raises to $24, karta ei tohi calls $16

Turn: ($60) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $40, karta ei tohi raises to $721.85 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $140 | Rake: $2

Results:
karta ei tohi didn't show 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (nothing).
Outcome: karta ei tohi won $138

leits
20.11.09, 16:19
sa meeldid talle ilmselt

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 16:21
parem oleks, jõhker donk on isegi QQ checkis J high-l maha, esimest korda cbettis obv et ma foldin sekundiga

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 16:29
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Button ($216.35)
SB ($485.75)
BB ($200)
UTG ($231.05)
MP ($200)
peaks kartma (CO) ($300.75)

Preflop: peaks kartma is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
2 folds, peaks kartma bets $6, 1 fold, SB raises to $22, 1 fold, peaks kartma calls $16

Flop: ($46) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $26, peaks kartma calls $26

Turn: ($98) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $56, peaks kartma raises to $114, SB raises to $381, peaks kartma calls $138.75 (All-In)

River: ($603.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $603.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and twos).
peaks kartma mucked Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, twos).
Outcome: SB won $600.50


elusees ei uskunud et vastasel midagi erilist on, kuna 3bet blindidel oli 22% ja AT on sellest kõvasti ees

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 16:29
oo jah, sattusin veelkord samatüübi AA otsa

tüüp paneb alati 3bulletit, suht raske on talle midagi üldse foldida

jrgn hell
20.11.09, 18:18
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Button ($207.40)
SB ($201)
BB ($200)
UTG ($235.35)
Kindlapeale mineja (MP) ($200)
CO ($197)

Preflop: Kindlapeale mineja is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, Kindlapeale mineja bets $6, CO raises to $12, Button raises to $30, 2 folds, [color=#CC3333]Kindlapeale mineja ? ?


KAS see on allinn või mitte, arvestades et mõlemad vastased on dongid


pole suurem asi nõuandja, aga keskmistest paaridest oled ka taga ju natuke. Kui dongid on, saad raha varem või hiljem ikka kätte.
Callida vist ka enamvähem kannatab, kui nii kusised raised ja kui Co rereraiseb, saada mucki imo.

6maxi muidu ei oska üldse

ESTPatrick
20.11.09, 21:08
elu halvim pokkeripäev vist lõppes, kui esimese paarisaja käega sain +4 BI kiirelt siis rohkem ei võitnudki suurt enam ja lõppes liiga sügavas augus, EV oli 1500$ parem kui lõpptulemus, ühtegi flippi ei võitnud täna vist 5k käega ja ütleme nii, et ikka proovisin palju

aga õnneks punktides on upswing pidev

$$$
20.11.09, 22:08
Pead vist paljalt hakkama mängima.

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 18:51
Mõned varased käed eelmisest nädalast. Huumori mõttes
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CO ($209.10)
Button ($207.60)
jess, paar (SB) ($200)
BB ($235.65)
UTG ($313.95)
MP ($267.85)

Preflop: jess, paar is SB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
2 folds, CO bets $7, 1 fold, jess, paar raises to $24, 1 fold, CO calls $17

Flop: ($50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
jess, paar bets $26, CO calls $26

Turn: ($102) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
jess, paar checks, CO bets $159.10 (All-In), jess, paar calls $150 (All-In)

River: ($402) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $402 | Rake: $3

Results:
jess, paar had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, fives).
CO had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (high card, Jack).
Outcome: jess, paar won $399


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UTG ($203)
MP ($689.95)
CO ($437.75)
V6imalustega kaardid (Button) ($200)
SB ($402.30)
BB ($202)

Preflop: V6imalustega kaardid is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
2 folds, CO bets $6, V6imalustega kaardid raises to $20, 2 folds, CO raises to $45, V6imalustega kaardid calls $25

Flop: ($93) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
CO checks, V6imalustega kaardid checks

Turn: ($93) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
CO bets $43, V6imalustega kaardid calls $43

River: ($179) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets $118, V6imalustega kaardid calls $112 (All-In)

Total pot: $403 | Rake: $3

Results:
V6imalustega kaardid had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, sevens over twos).
CO had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and sevens).
Outcome: V6imalustega kaardid won $400

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 19:13
alustan sessiooni, loodetavasti momentum kestab

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SB ($140)
BB ($200)
Superkäsi (Button) ($200)

Preflop: Superkäsi is Button with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
Superkäsi bets $6, 1 fold, BB calls $4

Flop: ($13) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Superkäsi bets $8, BB raises to $26, Superkäsi raises to $78, BB raises to $130, Superkäsi raises to $194 (All-In), BB calls $64 (All-In)

Turn: ($401) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($401) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $401 | Rake: $1

Results:
Superkäsi had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (straight, nine high).
BB had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Superkäsi won $400

ranka
21.11.09, 19:16
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Button ($207.40)
SB ($201)
BB ($200)
UTG ($235.35)
Kindlapeale mineja (MP) ($200)
CO ($197)

Preflop: Kindlapeale mineja is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, Kindlapeale mineja bets $6, CO raises to $12, Button raises to $30, 2 folds, [color=#CC3333]Kindlapeale mineja ? ?


KAS see on allinn või mitte, arvestades et mõlemad vastased on dongid


Alati all-in. Foldi siis, kui cold4bettor on ülitight.

ranka
21.11.09, 19:18
Kusjuures regularide vastu on see lihtsam all-in, kui donkide vastu.

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 19:25
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MP ($155.20)
CO ($200)
Button ($202)
lihtsalt unreal (SB) ($239.35)
BB ($228.10)
UTG ($245.10)

Preflop: lihtsalt unreal is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, Button bets $6, lihtsalt unreal raises to $20, 1 fold, Button calls $14

Flop: ($42) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
lihtsalt unreal bets $22, Button raises to $182 (All-In), lihtsalt unreal folds

Total pot: $86 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button didn't show
Outcome: Button won $83


Mis range paneksite vastasele, reg Kangesti tahtsin callida sest nii drawine tundus

ranka
21.11.09, 19:37
Sul pada äss, mis vähendab tohutult tõmmete kombinatsiooni, millega vastane võib minna allin. Hetkel näen ainult tõmmeteks 56s või TP+FD (sellest oled taga anyway + ta ei pruugi sellega shoveda).

Easy fold.

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 20:26
krt 1 ja sama donk 2 korda suckoudi mulle juba teinud. 679 peal kräkkis JJ-ga minu 67 ära ja siis 923 peal TT-ga QQ. Flopis allinns mõlemal korral

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 21:16
minu laudades miski mõttetu Starsi RedPRO Juan Manuel Pastor

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 21:40
Stiilinäide PRO poolt:

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lihtsalt unreal (UTG) ($248.50)
MP ($239.40)
CO ($160.25)
Button ($257.50)
SB ($573)
BB ($221.35)

Preflop: lihtsalt unreal is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
lihtsalt unreal bets $6, 1 fold, CO calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($15) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
lihtsalt unreal checks, CO checks

Turn: ($15) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
lihtsalt unreal bets $10, CO raises to $20, lihtsalt unreal calls $10

River: ($55) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
lihtsalt unreal checks, CO bets $22, lihtsalt unreal calls $22

Total pot: $99 | Rake: $3

Results:
lihtsalt unreal mucked Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and eights).
CO had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (four of a kind, eights).
Outcome: CO won $96

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 21:54
järgmine starsi pro laudades: Raszi ehk Lex Veldhuis

Timpz
21.11.09, 21:56
järgmine starsi pro laudades: Raszi ehk Lex Veldhuis

tühjenda :D

Pumper
21.11.09, 22:00
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MP ($89)
Button ($222.85)
SB ($224.50)
karta ei tohi (BB) ($751.85)
UTG ($304.40)

Preflop: karta ei tohi is BB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, SB bets $6, karta ei tohi calls $4

Flop: ($12) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, karta ei tohi bets $8, SB raises to $24, karta ei tohi calls $16

Turn: ($60) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $40, karta ei tohi raises to $721.85 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $140 | Rake: $2

Results:
karta ei tohi didn't show 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (nothing).
Outcome: karta ei tohi won $138


olematu skill kalasoomuste peal libisemine..,
Rluetidonk, kommentaariks.
Droid.

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 22:08
Raszi stiilinäide

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BB ($210.35)
UTG ($378.05)
MP ($245.65)
Algaja (CO) ($261.85)
Button ($413.95)
SB ($225.40)

Preflop: Algaja is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
2 folds, Algaja bets $6, Button raises to $20, 2 folds, Algaja raises to $50, Button raises to $413.95 (All-In), Algaja calls $211.85 (All-In)

Flop: ($526.70) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($526.70) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($526.70) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $526.70 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
Algaja had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Algaja won $523.70

Owner85
21.11.09, 22:55
pfff ;) kus kohast sellised jõuluvanad tulevad ja tollest four of kind tüübi slowplayst ja min betidest über monsteriga absull aru ei saa ???

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 23:07
1:1 vs raszi

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Algaja (Button) ($224.10)
SB ($529.10)
BB ($434)
UTG ($101.30)
MP ($208.65)
CO ($233.70)

Preflop: Algaja is Button with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, MP bets $6, 1 fold, Algaja raises to $18, 2 folds, MP calls $12

Flop: ($39) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Algaja bets $12, MP raises to $34, Algaja raises to $122, MP raises to $190.65 (All-In), Algaja calls $68.65

Turn: ($420.30) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($420.30) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $420.30 | Rake: $3

Results:
Algaja had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (high card, Queen).
MP had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: MP won $417.30

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 23:10
pfff ;) kus kohast sellised jõuluvanad tulevad ja tollest four of kind tüübi slowplayst ja min betidest über monsteriga absull aru ei saa ???


kus sa neid jõuluvanasid näed? mõtle kui tihti olen ma selliste 5bettide peale sunnitud foldima oma bluff 4betid. nii suguste mängijate vastu on väga raske mängida kuna PF peab jube tight olema kui selline sul vasakul

Pumper
21.11.09, 23:11
1:1 vs raszi

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Algaja (Button) ($224.10)
SB ($529.10)
BB ($434)
UTG ($101.30)
MP ($208.65)
CO ($233.70)

Preflop: Algaja is Button with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
1 fold, MP bets $6, 1 fold, Algaja raises to $18, 2 folds, MP calls $12

Flop: ($39) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Algaja bets $12, MP raises to $34, Algaja raises to $122, MP raises to $190.65 (All-In), Algaja calls $68.65

Turn: ($420.30) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($420.30) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $420.30 | Rake: $3

Results:
Algaja had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (high card, Queen).
MP had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: MP won $417.30


Kus kohast sellised jõuluvanad tulevad ja tollest four of kind tüübi slowplayst

Pumper
21.11.09, 23:12
kus sa neid jõuluvanasid näed? mõtle kui tihti olen ma selliste 5bettide peale sunnitud foldima oma bluff 4betid. nii suguste mängijate vastu on väga raske mängida kuna PF peab jube tight olema kui selline sul vasakul

kuuled
miskit
5 betti ei ole ju. siis kui $5 paned on 5 bet jne. sa panid miski $40 seega panid 40 beti. ole vait, kui asjades ei jaga!!!!

lenda peole mitte ära 40 beti,

me lähme lena ja oljaga just peole, nad jube karvased aga ikka paneme disko saunas ära

Pumper
21.11.09, 23:13
Jube metagame, me 10nl ikka raiume, te aint fishe koorite, m,me regularidega sõdime.

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 23:16
pead kõrgemale liikuma, seal rohkem fishe. mõtle ise: võidad 10nl-s regulari saad max 10$ aint, võidad 200nl-s idiooti saad 200$. Palju kasumlikum ju

Pumper
21.11.09, 23:20
tule peole donk

rannnnnka siin

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 23:21
Regular mõtles üle järsku

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Button ($200)
Algaja (SB) ($241.70)
BB ($240.25)
UTG ($200)
MP ($233.50)

Preflop: Algaja is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, Algaja bets $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Algaja bets $8, BB raises to $24, Algaja raises to $60, BB raises to $234.25 (All-In), Algaja calls $174.25

Turn: ($480.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($480.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $480.50 | Rake: $2

Results:
Algaja had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Kings).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Algaja won $478.50

Pumper
21.11.09, 23:25
Regular mõtles üle järsku

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Button ($200)
Algaja (SB) ($241.70)
BB ($240.25)
UTG ($200)
MP ($233.50)

Preflop: Algaja is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, Algaja bets $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Algaja bets $8, BB raises to $24, Algaja raises to $60, BB raises to $234.25 (All-In), Algaja calls $174.25

Turn: ($480.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($480.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $480.50 | Rake: $2

Results:
Algaja had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Kings).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Algaja won $478.50



kamoon call flop ületõste asemel.

kivisaba
21.11.09, 23:30
Stiilinäide PRO poolt:

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lihtsalt unreal (UTG) ($248.50)
MP ($239.40)
CO ($160.25)
Button ($257.50)
SB ($573)
BB ($221.35)

Preflop: lihtsalt unreal is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
lihtsalt unreal bets $6, 1 fold, CO calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($15) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
lihtsalt unreal checks, CO checks

Turn: ($15) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
lihtsalt unreal bets $10, CO raises to $20, lihtsalt unreal calls $10

River: ($55) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
lihtsalt unreal checks, CO bets $22, lihtsalt unreal calls $22

Total pot: $99 | Rake: $3

Results:
lihtsalt unreal mucked Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and eights).
CO had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (four of a kind, eights).
Outcome: CO won $96


kas pro river bet peaks inducema ors?? minu meelest paneva NL10 vennad ka paremaid bette riveris kui see

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 23:35
see oli jõhker donk minuarust, ma oleks pidanud tegelt riveri üldse foldima, ei biitinud suurt midagi seal

kivisaba
21.11.09, 23:37
see oli jõhker donk minuarust, ma oleks pidanud tegelt riveri üldse foldima, ei biitinud suurt midagi seal

ei ära humooritse nüüd
tahan ikka tõsiselt teada miks riveril pannakse alla poole poti absolute nutsiga

ESTPatrick
21.11.09, 23:40
mai humooritsenudki. ta oligi päriselt donk mis donk

dongimõttelaad on ju selline et kui nuts siis hästi vähe panna et kindlalt calli saada ja kui bluff siis võimalikult palju panna

kivisaba
21.11.09, 23:46
unreal

chrosmos
22.11.09, 06:54
muide nii palju kui NL25, NL50 mäletan, ja nüüd muidugi NL10-nes, siis täpselt sellises olukorras on tihti:

kui raised mingite kõrgete piltidega, tuleb üks call, oled OOP. flopp tuleb mingi paariga (ala 882 või 449). sa checkid, kuna lammas niikuinii pocketit ei foldi ja võib-olla saad showdownini isegi (harva). ja turn tuleb mingi kõrge kaart, mis hitib su top pairi. sa betid välja ja kui su vastane (just donkid) teeb minraise või üldse raise, siis on tal alati see kolmik või parem. riveris panevad vahel need vennad all in või teevad sellise pool potti beti.
PS! - IP sama teema

sellist asja olen märganud

AshrakWhite
22.11.09, 07:55
esimene mõte mis selle viimase käega turnil läbi jooksis oli "set" :P aga noh see kõrvaltvaataja teema, minu usaldus TPTK'sse on langenud, vahest on hea, enamasti suure täristamisega mitte nii väga :D

ESTPatrick
22.11.09, 17:47
kui jõuad veidi kõrgemale levelile(ei tea mis limiiti mängid), siis hakkab top paar juba väga meeldima, isegi aukuost tekitab rõõmutunde juba

AshrakWhite
22.11.09, 20:56
kui jõuad veidi kõrgemale levelile(ei tea mis limiiti mängid), siis hakkab top paar juba väga meeldima, isegi aukuost tekitab rõõmutunde juba


olen NL10 praegu, NL50 vist täristatakse väga any 2?

Pahvak
22.11.09, 21:17
olen NL10 praegu, NL50 vist täristatakse väga any 2?


Ei täristata midagi.

ESTPatrick
23.11.09, 01:39
igalpool täistatakse any2 kui selleks põhjust anda, näiteks olen positsiooni väga nõrga mängija vastu kes foldib liiga palju näiteks, täna panin starsi prole juan manuel pastor või mis iganes ta oli, pidevalt 83o jne otsa, ta EI CALLINUD MITTE ÜHTEGI 3betti. easy on nii. olin tema laudades miski 35/27 ja väga kasumlikud lauad olid


Lihtsalt kõrgematel limiitidel mängijad teavad miks nad any2 parasjagu raisivad võrreldes madalama limiidi mängijatega. ja alati on ka plaan üldjuhul olemas, mis siis saab kui vastane callin, mitu bulletit panen jne

ESTPatrick
23.11.09, 01:47
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

UTG ($200)
MP ($302.10)
CO ($81.20)
Button ($214.30)
mul on kehv leht (SB) ($206.75)
BB ($167.40)

Preflop: mul on kehv leht is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, Button bets $6, mul on kehv leht raises to $20, 1 fold, Button calls $14

Flop: ($42) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
mul on kehv leht bets $22, Button calls $22

Turn: ($86) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
mul on kehv leht checks, Button bets $26.30, mul on kehv leht calls $26.30

River: ($138.60) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
mul on kehv leht checks, Button bets $146 (All-In), mul on kehv leht calls $138.45 (All-In)

Total pot: $415.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
mul on kehv leht had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: mul on kehv leht won $412.50

teadsin täpselt mis vastasel turnis on ja callisin meelega et eriti odav välja näha, sest teadsin et raisides saan ainult üht: FOLDI. töötas. max value kindlasti.



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SB ($260.95)
BB ($205.50)
UTG ($187.05)
MP ($203)
CO ($200)
mul on kehv leht (Button) ($477.50)

Preflop: mul on kehv leht is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
2 folds, CO bets $6, mul on kehv leht raises to $18, 2 folds, CO calls $12

Flop: ($39) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
CO checks, mul on kehv leht checks

Turn: ($39) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
CO checks, mul on kehv leht bets $44, CO calls $44

River: ($127) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
CO checks, mul on kehv leht bets $202, CO calls $138 (All-In)

Total pot: $403 | Rake: $3

Results:
mul on kehv leht had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (high card, King).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: CO won $400


Siin tegin kohutava vea riveris, nii nagu nägin turni calli oleks pidanud vajutama nuppu: auto-fold. Paraku eksisin rängalt

Fortune
23.11.09, 01:51
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UTG ($200)
MP ($302.10)
CO ($81.20)
Button ($214.30)
mul on kehv leht (SB) ($206.75)
BB ($167.40)

Preflop: mul on kehv leht is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, Button bets $6, mul on kehv leht raises to $20, 1 fold, Button calls $14

Flop: ($42) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
mul on kehv leht bets $22, Button calls $22

Turn: ($86) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
mul on kehv leht checks, Button bets $26.30, mul on kehv leht calls $26.30

River: ($138.60) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
mul on kehv leht checks, Button bets $146 (All-In), mul on kehv leht calls $138.45 (All-In)

Total pot: $415.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
mul on kehv leht had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: mul on kehv leht won $412.50

teadsin täpselt mis vastasel turnis on ja callisin meelega et eriti odav välja näha, sest teadsin et raisides saan ainult üht: FOLDI. töötas. max value kindlasti.


obv jah, et said max value, kui said terve vastase stacki omale ;D, aga jääb arusaamatuks mulle, miks ta oma käe bluffiks pöörab, on ta mingi fishihakatis või siis väga kehv regular ???.

ESTPatrick
23.11.09, 01:55
mõttetu järgi checkida kui teab et on taga ja mina olen nii nõrgalt ennast näidanud, QQ, KK saab ta sedasi ju vabalt foldima ja ma võin libastuda ja ka QJ callida, kuna vastase manööver näib ikka kohutavalt nõrk tegelikult: nuts või mitte midagi. seega ta saab ka bluffcatcher käte käest valuet

Fortune
23.11.09, 02:03
ta ei ole 100% taga ja minu arust see väga ei õigusta seda river bluffi siin. KK ja QQ saab enamus kordadest foldima küll, aga ega Ax-i ka su rangest välistada ei saa, sest seda sa mängid ka tihti niimoodi, kuna turni c/r tundub nii tugev ja sa pigem c/c turni, et näidata, et sul võibki KK QQ vms olla ja loodad, et ta blufib riveri, nagu ka hetkel juhtus.

ESTPatrick
23.11.09, 02:05
seni olin tema vastu väga agrolt mänginud (raisinud ja floatinud sitaks), seega turni call näis talle pigem nõrkus ja ilmselt oli ka kergelt muserdanud minu overbettides tema vastu, olin vist hiljuti overbettinud teda miski 60$ potis riveris ja siis ta ägisedes seal foldis

Fortune
23.11.09, 02:11
jap historyt ei teadnud loomulikult, ilmselt tüüp oli närvis ja tahtis tagasi teha sulle lihtsalt ;D

ESTPatrick
23.11.09, 03:15
Kokkuvõte starsi prodest kellega olen hiljuti mänginud:

Super Starsi PRO (imekombel on ta 200s plussis isegi. üsna suur üllatus oli seda näha) Ametlikult minu nr1 lemmik vastane starsis praegu. NUMBER ÜKS:

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/juanpastor

Agronoomika lõpetanud Starsi PRO, juba paljulubavamad statsid, tüüp ikka korralikult 10/20 ja 25/50 ka laamendanud, mis paneb tõdema et kui temast jagu ei saa, pole üleval lootustki

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/raszi

Ka mitte just super mängija, vahepeal mängis päris hoolega minuga samades laudades, nüüd pole nädal või nii enam näindu
http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/assadourian

AshrakWhite
23.11.09, 13:37
Guru ise ka kui keegi otsida ei viitsi :D

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/estpatrick

ESTPatrick
23.11.09, 15:34
2 vaatlust monstrite mängimisest sama fishi vastu. kahjuks jäi seis 1:1. aga supermängijaga oli siiski tegemist

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BB ($469.35)
UTG ($265.05)
MP ($200)
CO ($206)
Button ($200)
overbettor (SB) ($286.45)

Preflop: overbettor is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
4 folds, overbettor bets $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
overbettor bets $16, BB calls $16

Turn: ($44) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
overbettor bets $52, BB calls $52

River: ($148) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
overbettor checks, BB bets $24, overbettor raises to $88, BB calls $64

Total pot: $324 | Rake: $3

Results:
overbettor had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and sevens).
BB had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: BB won $321



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SB ($510.95)
BB ($200)
UTG ($200)
MP ($218.40)
CO ($295.80)
overbettor (Button) ($200)

Preflop: overbettor is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, overbettor bets $10, SB calls $9, 1 fold

Flop: ($22) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, overbettor bets $34, SB calls $34

Turn: ($90) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, overbettor bets $102, SB calls $102

River: ($294) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, overbettor bets $54 (All-In), SB calls $54

Total pot: $402 | Rake: $3

Results:
overbettor had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Kings).
SB had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: overbettor won $399

ESTPatrick
23.11.09, 19:53
http://arion.pri.ee/estpatrick/pildid/5.jpg

AshrakWhite
23.11.09, 21:04
NL200?

20 BI 5 päevaga, ouchies.

runnar
23.11.09, 21:40
runnaring hot

ESTPatrick
24.11.09, 01:27
Mõtlesin et teen enesekindluse taastamiseks 100NÖ full ringi, kuna see oli ikka omalajal müstiliselt soft. NO KÕIGE HULLEM IDEE ÜLDSE, MILLE PEALE SAIN TULLA.

no vist tõesti läksin üle pika aja tõsiselt tilti, mai ole alates 6maxi mängima hakates kunafgi nii palju sette kokku ka vist näinud. kõik AA-d kaotasin ühele ja samale tüübile, koguaeg oli tal 3bet OOP potis set. KOGUAEG. lisaks veel 2-3 set vs seti, +foldisin 2-3 setti kui miskid nitid hakkasid võitlema made draw boardidel ja pandi miskeid minraise.

No tõesti tundus et ainuke kord kui aktsiooni saad on siis kui vastasel on set või valmis mast või rida, ah jaa kui KK oli siis seda ka ei folditud.isegi QQ limp calliti for set value. no tõesti müstiline koht oli. nii kaua kui bluff check raisid töötasid nii kaua suutsin seda mängu taluda, mingi hetk tehti miski müstiline call ja siis slowplay ja siis sai ikka korralikult villand.

Nad tõesti on kõik jumala idioodid, aga lihtsalt mai olnud valmis aru saama kui idioodid. ja seetõttu maksin ikka jubedalt alguses kinni, isegi top2 paari checkitakse turnis järgi kui tuleb miski kahtlane kaart mis rikub nende nutsi. obv see oli ainuke kord kui sain draw kokku ja siis riveris tõmbas 4 oudise ja suutsin ikkagi ta ära callida, kuigi obv fold oleks pidanud olema


ROHKEM KUNAGI MA EI MÄNGI 100NL full ringi, v-o madalamal või kõrgemal, kuid mitte seda. vähemalt kaine peaga mitte

Mängides jõudsin isegi järeldusele et Full ring on rohkem gaym kui turniirid. ausalt. Loodan et see arusaam muutub, kuid praeguse sessiooni järel on see vankumatu

ESTPatrick
24.11.09, 01:35
Terve sessiooni peale oli vist ainult 1 hea call mul suures potis. vastane oli donk ja see bet näis ja oli puhas bluff nagu 90% varem olnud kordadest kus selliseid asju mäletan

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UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($54.15)
MP2 ($105.05)
CO ($141)
Button ($108.05)
SB ($100)
Insta tiltcaller (BB) ($104.35)
UTG ($111.10)

Preflop: Insta tiltcaller is BB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $4, CO calls $4, 2 folds, Insta tiltcaller raises to $15, MP2 calls $11, 1 fold

Flop: ($34.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Insta tiltcaller checks, MP2 bets $90.05 (All-In), Insta tiltcaller calls $89.35 (All-In)

Turn: ($213.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($213.20) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $213.20 | Rake: $3

Results:
Insta tiltcaller had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, tens and sixes).
MP2 had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (high card, King).
Outcome: Insta tiltcaller won $210.20

RudiTurbo
24.11.09, 04:50
Nägin Sind ka laudades just kui hakkasin istuma, aga kadusid suht insta :P

Vahepeal tundub tõesti nii, et alla seti ei raiseta seal üldse, olin ka juba +250 , aga läxin monkey tilti ja tõmbasin 800 käega -250$ peale :D

Lutzky
24.11.09, 09:57
müstika

leits
24.11.09, 16:56
starsi koll lasti puurist v2lja..

ESTPatrick
27.11.09, 21:33
niiiiiiiiiiiii............Lutzky and co tuli külla. super. triobet live'st on krunt all. praegu kütab juurde. super. teiste ja rankaga täna x ja a baari kaaa. super, ma ütlen. usside raamat on ka, super.

super, my friend.

Timpz
27.11.09, 21:37
super=unreal :D?

ESTPatrick
27.11.09, 21:40
Lutzky kirjutas. super, ma ei tea midagi. super. super. super.

super

lenC
28.11.09, 01:21
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Lutzky
28.11.09, 14:21
super. ma ei ole praegu võimeline, veel, muljeid rääkima, aga kui viitsin siis midagi postitan õhtal/homme.

Lutzky
28.11.09, 17:25
eilse möllu märksõnad:
*supermehe plaza ja saun
*ranka ja lesbibaar
*super
*inferno ehk vene pidu on ikka vene pidu
*pätmasta ja mingid naised
*rull ehk skillimäng, mille biitimine on liiga lihtne
*parki "regular", kes mängib Starsis ühel laual
*keiss - liiga kaine tüüp

l.

pikk28
28.11.09, 20:29
eilse möllu märksõnad:
*supermehe plaza ja saun
*ranka ja lesbibaar
*super
*inferno ehk vene pidu on ikka vene pidu
*pätmasta ja mingid naised
*rull ehk skillimäng, mille biitimine on liiga lihtne
*parki "regular", kes mängib Starsis ühel laual
*keiss - liiga kaine tüüp

l.

cashi?

Lutzky
29.11.09, 13:36
jah

ESTPatrick
01.12.09, 02:27
urtle12037: pat next hand 25 bucks and well just check all the way through
turtle12037: want to do it
ESTPatrick: when its folded to me
turtle12037: just see what happens one time
turtle12037: lol
Dealer: turtle12037 has a pair of Nines
Dealer: ESTPatrick has two pair, Nines and Eights
Dealer: Game #36076626098: ESTPatrick wins pot ($48.45) with two pair, Nines and Eights
ESTPatrick: juppii
turtle12037: arg nice hand
ESTPatrick: you had better preflop
turtle12037: see that worked out for you
turtle12037: lol

Owner85
01.12.09, 02:38
lol ;D

ESTPatrick
01.12.09, 02:48
donkidega tuleb gamblida siis teevad sulle paremini välja, järgmise käega bluffis kohe mulle miski 20bb vabalt ja siis ülejärgmise käega tegi PF openraise juba 22bb, mille panin allinns kuna joppas kohe AKs. pidi meeldima ja ta leidis obv foldi

Svenza
01.12.09, 03:45
Super!

ESTPatrick
01.12.09, 07:34
kohustuslik lugemine igale vanusele:

http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html

ESTPatrick
01.12.09, 09:49
hommikune saun on ikka super

andu_andu
01.12.09, 10:43
hommikune saun on ikka super

saunaga korter ? Kui on siis väga viis, saun hea asi.

Svenza
01.12.09, 15:50
1 2 3 Super
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB_2VP9Sfd0&NR=1

McFoldberg
01.12.09, 15:59
kohustuslik lugemine igale vanusele:

http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html




lol

Uniquest
01.12.09, 18:36
kohustuslik lugemine igale vanusele:

http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html

Nuts :D

ESTPatrick
01.12.09, 19:45
1 2 3 Super
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB_2VP9Sfd0&NR=1


lihtsalt super

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 00:09
pI@nB: thats gonna be a sick call


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Button ($194)
SB ($624.60)
super (BB) ($203)
UTG ($378.30)
MP ($356.75)

Preflop: super is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, SB bets $6, super calls $4

Flop: ($12) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $8, super calls $8

Turn: ($28) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, super checks

River: ($28) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, super bets $18, SB calls $18

Total pot: $64 | Rake: $2

Results:
SB mucked 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and eights).
super had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, Aces over eights).
Outcome: super won $62


KES ARU EI SAA, SIIS MIND CALLIS 7 HIGH

Svenza
02.12.09, 00:12
pI@nB: thats gonna be a sick call


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Button ($194)
SB ($624.60)
super (BB) ($203)
UTG ($378.30)
MP ($356.75)

Preflop: super is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, SB bets $6, super calls $4

Flop: ($12) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $8, super calls $8

Turn: ($28) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, super checks

River: ($28) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, super bets $18, SB calls $18

Total pot: $64 | Rake: $2

Results:
SB mucked 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and eights).
super had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, Aces over eights).
Outcome: super won $62


KES ARU EI SAA, SIIS MIND CALLIS 7 HIGH

Sick
I guess, for future reference... or so

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 00:14
Kui ta eelmise 1100 käega midagi sarnast teada ei ole saanud, siis pole sellest readist kasu ka eriti

vennike
02.12.09, 00:41
TAL OLI OESD!!!

Owner85
02.12.09, 03:00
Kuna ilmne donk ja stack on suur siis pfr callis kuna tuli masti püüdma ja flopis sai hoopis rea tõmbe ja insta call temapoolt,turn ok aga aru ma ei sa mida ta enam riveris esindas ;D ;D ;D

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 03:03
Kuna ilmne donk ja stack on suur siis pfr callis kuna tuli masti püüdma ja flopis sai hoopis rea tõmbe ja insta call temapoolt,turn ok aga aru ma ei sa mida ta enam riveris esindas ;D ;D ;D


on võitev regular

mislinn
02.12.09, 03:05
Sick, sick, sick värk, nl10 võiks ka selline värk toimuda

Ghost0
02.12.09, 03:11
Sick, sick, sick värk, nl10 võiks ka selline värk toimuda

ROFL, sa räägid nii nagu NL10s oleks vähem donke :D

mislinn
02.12.09, 03:12
ROFL, sa räägid nii nagu NL10s oleks vähem donke :D



Kusjuures, sul on tõsi taga, kui ma nüüd selle mõttega oma posti loen :D

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 03:56
miks te arvate et selline call ei või hea olla, lihtsalt nl10s ei teata miks nad nii teevad, nad lihtsalt laksivad call nuppu tuimalt. antud regular ütles pärast, et tra sul siin nii tihti 22-55 või sama draw käsi mis tal.

üldiselt küll ta eksib, kuid kindlasti olen paar korda ka floatinud väikseid paare ja ju siis tema vastu vahele jäänud korra. seega kui miski read on tuleks sellele kindlaks jääda, kuigi see 75 call on absurdselt kehv, mõistlik oleks oodata miski K või Q high ära ja oleks suht standard call.

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 04:00
mängisin just nanonoko vastu ca 125 kätt, aga lauad olid ikka masendavalt kehvad, ei tea kas miski high stakes mängijate suvepäevad toimusid 200NL-s sest mäng oli väga raske, üks raskemaid kus olen osalenud ma arvan. võimalik et sattusin just valedesse laudadesse kuna järjekorrad olid pikad. aga tundsin mitmeid 400-600 regulare 200s täna mängimas. pikalt ei tahtnud olla, pole uut swingi vaja, kuid meelega istusin koguaeg nanonoko lähedale laudadesse, sest tahtsin näha kuidas ta mängib päris elus. kahjuks ühtegi suurt kätt meie vahel ei olnud. korra sain KK tema vastu, kuid ta foldis flopil. ja paar rohkem foldisin mina flopil tema vastu.

55ga kräkkisin ühe tüübi AA siiski ära. EI OLE MÕTET SLOWPLAY TEHA.

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 17:08
http://ffffunny.com/system/files/7162/original/ffffunny-pload_14721_0.?1252417330

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 17:29
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

UTG ($200)
MP ($253.85)
Hero (CO) ($200)
Button ($418.05)
SB ($396.25)
BB ($433.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($10) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4

Turn: ($18) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls $14

River: ($46) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Tarmonator
02.12.09, 17:32
and?

AshrakWhite
02.12.09, 17:47
KK lol

forell
02.12.09, 17:59
edit - võtsin maha oma postituse, siin teemas vist ei kommenteerita käsi?

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 18:04
edit - võtsin maha oma postituse, siin teemas vist ei kommenteerita käsi?


tunne vabalt

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 18:04
and?


eesti keeles palun, ei oska neid väljamaa keeli

runnar
02.12.09, 18:13
and on ju eesti keeles

ESTPatrick
02.12.09, 18:14
and on ju eesti keeles


mai tahtnud midagi anda

ESTPatrick
03.12.09, 02:19
soovitage proget millega saaksin hotkey panuste suuruseks ja mida see tableninja endast kujutab, kas miski trial on ka olemas?

kollane
03.12.09, 02:21
soovitage proget millega saaksin hotkey panuste suuruseks ja mida see tableninja endast kujutab, kas miski trial on ka olemas?


30 päeva

kardpleier
03.12.09, 02:42
http://www.wickss.com/ahk/starshotkeys/StarsHotkeys_exe.zip ise kasutan. väga lihtne.

ESTPatrick
03.12.09, 09:00
võti õnnestumiseks pokkeris on lihtne, täna sain vist selleks kinnitust lõpuks.

Nr1. loe teiste mängijate blogisid ja kuula mis nad rääägivad

Nr2. õpi ainult võitvatelt mängijatelt ja vaata kuidas nad mängivad teatud situatsioone (millise käega kui suurt potti mängitakse ja kuidas, kas check-callides, check-raisides või ise bettides)

Nr3. võta kõik üle ja mängi täpselt nende rangede järgi kuni need loksuvad sinu arusaamadega paika, eeldusel et sinuarusaamad parandavad su mängu, mitte ei ole põhjus halvaks calliks

Nr4. õpi foldima idiootide vastu, kes on superpassiivsed ja õpi olema idioot maniakkide vastu samasugune maniakk, sa oled ju tightim, sul peaks tohutu kaardieelis olema.

variatsioon
03.12.09, 09:42
võti õnnestumiseks pokkeris on lihtne, täna sain vist selleks kinnitust lõpuks.

Nr1. loe teiste mängijate blogisid ja kuula mis nad rääägivad

Nr2. õpi ainult võitvatelt mängijatelt ja vaata kuidas nad mängivad teatud situatsioone (millise käega kui suurt potti mängitakse ja kuidas, kas check-callides, check-raisides või ise bettides)

Nr3. võta kõik üle ja mängi täpselt nende rangede järgi kuni need loksuvad sinu arusaamadega paika, eeldusel et sinuarusaamad parandavad su mängu, mitte ei ole põhjus halvaks calliks

Nr4. õpi foldima idiootide vastu, kes on superpassiivsed ja õpi olema idioot maniakkide vastu samasugune maniakk, sa oled ju tightim, sul peaks tohutu kaardieelis olema.

mis huvitavaid välismaiseid blogisi sa loed?

ESTPatrick
03.12.09, 09:46
1 sisukamaid on:

http://www.badvariance.com/ - sealt strateegia nurk jne, viimasel ajal pole eriti uut peale tulnud. soovitan kõigile, kes midagi 6maxist ei jaga seda, isegi leits ütles et sai asjast aru.

Olen selle tüübiga sitaks koos mänginud ja kinnitan, ta teab mida ta räägib
seal kõrval on hea blogroll, kus nii mitmedki on asjalikud

ESTPatrick
04.12.09, 00:10
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Mul on nuts (Button) ($229.45)
Sul on draw (SB) ($459.80)
BB ($200)
UTG ($398.70)
MP ($360.65)

Preflop: Mul on nuts is Button with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
1 fold, MP bets $6, Mul on nuts calls $6, Sul on draw calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($20) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
Sul on draw checks, MP checks, Mul on nuts checks

Turn: ($20) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
Sul on draw bets $20, 1 fold, Mul on nuts raises to $56, Sul on draw calls $36

River: ($132) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Sul on draw checks, Mul on nuts bets $167.45 (All-In), Sul on draw calls $167.45

Total pot: $466.90 | Rake: $2

Results:
Mul on nuts had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (full house, tens over sevens).
Sul on draw had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (two pair, nines and sevens).
Outcome: Mul on nuts won $464.90

ESTPatrick
04.12.09, 02:46
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Superman (CO) ($449.05)
Button ($198.05)
SB ($563.60)
BB ($200)
UTG ($186)
MP ($226.50)

Preflop: Superman is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, Superman bets $6, Button raises to $22, 2 folds, Superman raises to $46, Button calls $24

Flop: ($95) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Superman bets $30, Button calls $30

Turn: ($155) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Superman checks, Button bets $122.05 (All-In), Superman calls $122.05

River: ($399.10) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $399.10 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, sixes).
Superman had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: Superman won $396.10

ESTPatrick
04.12.09, 02:48
täna nägin ülepikaaja 1/2 laudades eestlast ja mitte üht, vaid lausa kaht. Ühele tegin küll valusa coolerbiidi, kui KK vs AA võitsin, aga no foldima seda ikka ju ei hakka. ja teisega väga suuri potte ei olnud, istus minust otse vasakul ja kuna selles lauas eriti käsi ei olnud siis väga võimalust ei tekkinudki

ESTPatrick
04.12.09, 07:09
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Button ($47)
SB ($101.35)
Supernuts (BB) ($204.65)
UTG ($37.50)
MP ($201.20)
CO ($282.95)

Preflop: Supernuts is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
2 folds, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1, Supernuts checks

Flop: ($6) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (3 players)
SB bets $4, Supernuts calls $4, 1 fold

Turn: ($14) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $6, Supernuts calls $6

River: ($26) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $8, Supernuts raises to $26, SB calls $18

Total pot: $78 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB mucked Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Supernuts had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (Royal flush).
Outcome: Supernuts won $75

ESTPatrick
05.12.09, 08:33
Overbettide maailmas elasid trallid nii.....


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slowplaya (MP) ($285.95)
CO ($114.30)
Button ($424.25)
SB ($455.15)
BB ($202)
UTG ($252.55)

Preflop: slowplaya is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
UTG bets $6, slowplaya calls $6, 4 folds

Flop: ($15) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $10, slowplaya calls $10

Turn: ($35) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $24, slowplaya calls $24

River: ($83) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $212.55 (All-In), slowplaya calls $212.55

Total pot: $508.10 | Rake: $3

Results:
UTG had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
slowplaya had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Outcome: slowplaya won $505.10


Vaatlus 2

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BB ($169.90)
UTG ($200)
MP ($211.15)
CO ($234)
SUperstation (Button) ($247.50)
SB ($204)

Preflop: SUperstation is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, MP bets $6, 1 fold, SUperstation calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP bets $10, SUperstation calls $10

Turn: ($35) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP bets $25, SUperstation calls $25

River: ($85) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, SUperstation bets $38, MP raises to $170.15 (All-In), SUperstation calls $132.15

Total pot: $425.30 | Rake: $3

Results:
SUperstation had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Jacks and nines).
MP had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, nines).
Outcome: SUperstation won $422.30


Vaatlus 3

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UTG ($124.60)
MP ($200)
CO ($117)
Button ($428)
Tiltmonkey ($191.30)
unreal kavalus (BB) ($200)

Preflop: unreal kavalus is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, Button bets $6, Tiltmonkey raises to $32, unreal kavalus raises to $200 (All-In), 1 fold, SB calls $159.30 (All-In)

Flop: ($388.60) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($388.60) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($388.60) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $388.60 | Rake: $3

Results:
Tiltmonkey had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
unreal kavalus had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: unreal kavalus won $385.60


vaatlus 4 - minupoolne supermoove, kuid jummala valel ajal ja vale vastase vastu

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nutsbluffer (BB) ($510.90)
UTG ($100)
MP ($467.15)
CO ($198)
Button ($217.60)
SB ($233.10)

Preflop: nutsbluffer is BB with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
2 folds, CO bets $6, 2 folds, nutsbluffer calls $4

Flop: ($13) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
nutsbluffer checks, CO bets $8, nutsbluffer raises to $26, CO calls $18

Turn: ($65) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
nutsbluffer bets $44, CO calls $44

River: ($153) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
nutsbluffer bets $434.90 (All-In), CO calls $122 (All-In)

Total pot: $397 | Rake: $3

Results:
nutsbluffer had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, sevens).
CO had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (straight, King high).
Outcome: CO won $394

ESTPatrick
06.12.09, 08:42
Kuidas mängida AJ. OLULINE KÕIGILE.

nr1, raise peab olema suur et kõik draw händid PF foldiksid ja saaks vastamisi suure paari või AK-ga. see osa selge, siis hakkab looma.

nr2. kui vastane on sisse trapitud suure raise poolt, siis insta callida allinn - see tähendab tugevust.

nr3. lihtsalt hittida vajaminev kaart ja ongi olemas.

Õppematerjal nr1:
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Kõva vend (SB) ($200)
BB ($447.70)
UTG ($214.50)
MP ($224.35)
Button ($204.30)

Preflop: Kõva vend is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG bets $6, 2 folds, Kõva vend calls $5, BB raises to $50, 1 fold, Kõva vend raises to $200 (All-In), BB calls $150

Flop: ($406) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($406) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($406) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $406 | Rake: $2

Results:
Kõva vend had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, sixes).
BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Jacks and sixes).
Outcome: BB won $404

Õppematerjal nr2
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BB ($203)
Ülekaaluline (UTG) ($202.75)
MP ($150.60)
CO ($210.90)
Button ($200)
SB ($304.85)

Preflop: Ülekaaluline is UTG with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
Ülekaaluline bets $6, MP raises to $50, 4 folds, Ülekaaluline raises to $202.75 (All-In), MP calls $100.60 (All-In)

Flop: ($304.20) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($304.20) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($304.20) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $304.20 | Rake: $3

Results:
Ülekaaluline had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, Queens).
MP had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: MP won $301.20

ESTPatrick
06.12.09, 08:45
ja need olid erinevad vastased, niiet on tekkimas uus koolkond. kõik õppige üksikasjalikult selgeks kuidas vastavad nipid toimuvad, uuelt skill-laevalt ei tohi ometi maha jääda

forell
06.12.09, 08:49
aaa niimodi käib
thx lähen kohe proovin

Lutzky
06.12.09, 13:48
müstika

ESTPatrick
06.12.09, 23:27
tegin räige misclicki aga tuli välja et võtsin bluffi vahele. mai pannud enne tähelegi et misclick oli olnud kui vastane juba timebankis

chatis veel ütlesin ka enne kui arvasin et foldisin: miks pot paned ja panin why??
ja siis avastasin et oi fakk minraise allinn J high-ga pannud


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UTG ($343)
Button ($372.85)
Miscliker (SB) ($231.65)
BB ($200)

Preflop: Miscliker is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
1 fold, Button bets $6, Miscliker raises to $20, 1 fold, Button calls $14

Flop: ($42) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Miscliker bets $22, Button calls $22

Turn: ($86) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Miscliker checks, Button bets $78, Miscliker raises to $189.65 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $242 | Rake: $2

Results:
Miscliker didn't show Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (nothing).
Outcome: Miscliker won $240

ESTPatrick
07.12.09, 06:42
dajatt13: show?
ESTPatrick: no
Dealer: Game #36353040881: ESTPatrick wins pot ($336)
dajatt13: wut u have?
ESTPatrick: 72
dajatt13: i gave you extra 102$ lol
ESTPatrick: ok
dajatt13: wut u have really?
ESTPatrick: 102$ and i tell
ESTPatrick: do i send a HH?
dajatt13: k
ESTPatrick: to where?
Dealer: redargoe, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
dajatt13: to ur moms *******
Dealer: Regular time for player redargoe has expired, TIME BANK has been activated
Dealer: Game #36353100388: ESTPatrick wins pot ($14.25)
ESTPatrick: he prolly dont understand that
Dealer: redargoe, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
dajatt13: nh nit
ESTPatrick: ty sir

forell
07.12.09, 08:39
ur mom = he?
nh

ESTPatrick
07.12.09, 09:33
ur mom = he?
nh


regular läks lihtsalt tilti kuna olime 250bb deep ja ma panin 3 tänavat pot panuse ja mille peale ta riveris foldis siis, 3bet potis

ilmselt foldis KK või AA

variatsioon
07.12.09, 09:36
regular läks lihtsalt tilti kuna olime 250bb deep ja ma panin 3 tänavat pot panuse ja mille peale ta riveris foldis siis, 3bet potis

ilmselt foldis KK või AA

ta vihas seda et tavaliselt on momid she'd mitte he'd

btw kui ema teeb soo-operatsiooni kas ta siis muutub isaks või jääb ikka emaks? :D

ESTPatrick
07.12.09, 09:41
mõlemaks arvan

ESTPatrick
07.12.09, 09:48
yes 12 000 Vpp see kuu tehtud igahetk. tempo on hea, rakebackist saab söönuks ilmselt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma60C_nRAU0&feature=PlayList&p=FC36A92B52497D9A&index=35

ESTPatrick
08.12.09, 12:13
Panen päeva kõige kehvemini ja ilmselt parimini mängitud käe üles, et motiveerida rohkem häid otsuseid tegema edaspidi.

Parim call. antud käe juures mängis tohutut osa read, betting- ja timingtell, mis vastasel oli, kes oli siis auahne tohman. 92/6 vms, muidu pasiivne, aga riveris maniakk.

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Button ($197)
SB ($248.05)
Superread (BB) ($262.20)
UTG ($342.10)
MP ($251.40)
CO ($58.35)

Preflop: Superread is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, 1 fold, Superread bets $10, UTG calls $8, 1 fold

Flop: ($23) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Superread bets $14, UTG calls $14

Turn: ($51) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Superread bets $32, UTG calls $32

River: ($115) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Superread checks, UTG bets $126, Superread calls $126

Total pot: $367 | Rake: $3

Results:
Superread had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Jacks).
UTG had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (high card, Queen).
Outcome: Superread won $364

Ilmselt kõige kehvem vastase käe hindamine juhtus järgnevas käes, vastane venitas iga calliga nagu oleks tal foldi lubav käsi, kuid paraku oli tulemus järgmine. lisaks eksisin tohutult bluff panuse suurusega, millega raiskasin ikka liiga palju pitsasid.

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BB ($200)
UTG ($320)
MP ($344.10)
Unreal read (CO) ($206.60)
Button ($178.40)
SB ($200)

Preflop: Unreal read is CO with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
2 folds, Unreal read bets $6, Button calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Unreal read bets $10, Button calls $10

Turn: ($35) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Unreal read bets $20, Button calls $20

River: ($75) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Unreal read checks, Button bets $22, Unreal read raises to $98, Button raises to $142.40 (All-In), Unreal read folds

Total pot: $271 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button didn't show
Outcome: Button won $268


Praeguseks olen see kuu juba 44h mänginud ja 95% sellest max 9 tablind, mis tundub et sobib mulle kõige rohkem siiski, niikui rohkem võtan hajub maksimaalne keskendumine laudade rohkuse tõttu. see kuu kindlasti jätkan max9. 15001vpp ka koos juba. Ei julge arvutatagi, mis graafikus see kuu olen. loodan jõulude aeg kõva puhkamise teha ja siis vaatab mis edasi saama hakkab.

leits
08.12.09, 14:26
oled leidnud endas grinderi pisiku again

ESTPatrick
09.12.09, 02:51
panen tänased esialgsed käed ka üles, ilmselt mängin veel, kuid praegu jube väsinud ja tukastan vähe.

Kõigil palun öelda kui **** moove järgnevas käes oli. no ikka müstiliselt ****, kuna mul ei olnud mitte mingisugust alust arvata et vastane seal bluffiks või valueks nõrgemaga, oleks flopi raise olnud oleks loogiline raise olnud, aga turnis tundus see supertugev kuna vastane oleks saanud kogu oma bluff range flopis ära kasutada, mille ta jättis siiski tegemata.

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CO ($105.35)
Button ($220.05)
SB ($201)
Supersitt (BB) ($200)
UTG ($145.70)
MP ($200)

Preflop: Supersitt is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
2 folds, CO bets $6, Button calls $6, 1 fold, Supersitt calls $4

Flop: ($19) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
Supersitt checks, CO bets $12, Button calls $12, Supersitt calls $12

Turn: ($55) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
Supersitt checks, CO bets $16, Button raises to $44, Supersitt raises to $182 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls $138

River: ($435) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $435 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (three of a kind, fours).
Supersitt had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: Button won $432


supercalle nagu ei olnudki, võib-olla panen siis ühe huvitava käe, kus sattusid identsed drawd vastamisi. moovi teeb vast heaks see et suutsin flopis poti suureks ajada. ja antud vastase käe vastu oli c/r sitaks parem kui cbet minuarust kuna muidu ta oleks võinud üldse callida flopil kuna ei olnud just superagro, pigem floatija tüüp

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Superdraw (UTG) ($274.90)
MP ($200)
CO ($203)
Button ($200)
SB ($219.95)
BB ($364)

Preflop: Superdraw is UTG with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
Superdraw bets $6, MP calls $6, CO calls $6, 1 fold, SB calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($26) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Superdraw checks, MP checks, CO bets $18, 1 fold, Superdraw raises to $66, 1 fold, CO raises to $195, Superdraw raises to $268.90 (All-In), CO calls $2 (All-In)

Turn: ($420) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($420) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $420 | Rake: $3

Results:
Superdraw had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (full house, sixes over nines).
CO had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, sixes over sevens).
Outcome: Superdraw won $417

Svenza
09.12.09, 18:40
Sry, mul tuli kusehäda ja kusesin su liivakasti...
Aga Sass on hea õlu selle eest. SUperlux!

ESTPatrick
10.12.09, 02:42
Cool hand


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Button ($234.30)
SB ($148.10)
BB ($224.35)
UTG ($213.50)
MP ($213.50)
Super (CO) ($228.90)

Preflop: Super is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
1 fold, MP bets $5.30, Super raises to $14, Button raises to $35, SB calls $34, 1 fold, MP calls $29.70, Super raises to $228.90 (All-In), 1 fold, SB calls $113.10 (All-In), MP calls $178.50 (All-In)

Flop: ($612.10) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($612.10) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($612.10) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $612.10 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB mucked 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, sixes).
MP had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, sixes).
Super had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and sixes).
Outcome: Super won $609.10

Pahvak
10.12.09, 10:34
MP avang on päris huvitava suurusega.

ESTPatrick
10.12.09, 11:07
MP avang on päris huvitava suurusega.


kasutab mingeid hotkeysid, see standard tal. regular.

ESTPatrick
10.12.09, 11:07
cool händ jällegi, just jõudsin kiruma hakata miks shortie allinn ei pannud kui sain superflopi ja lugu järgmine:

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SB ($206.65)
BB ($141.90)
UTG ($39.55)
MP ($364.70)
CO ($72.65)
O-outer (Button) ($334.65)

Preflop: O-outer is Button with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
UTG bets $6, 1 fold, CO calls $6, O-outer calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($21) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
UTG bets $14.95, CO raises to $29.90, O-outer raises to $104, UTG calls $18.60 (All-In), CO calls $36.75 (All-In)

Turn: ($187.85) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($187.85) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $187.85 | Rake: $3

Results:
O-outer had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, nines and sevens).
UTG had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, nines and sevens).
CO had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (four of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: CO won $184.85

ESTPatrick
10.12.09, 11:34
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UTG ($209)
Always set (MP) ($369.70)
Button ($142.20)
SB ($200)
BB ($258)

Preflop: Always set is MP with 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
UTG bets $6, Always set calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($15) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $12, Always set calls $12

Turn: ($39) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $26, Always set calls $26

River: ($91) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Always set bets $72, UTG calls $72

Total pot: $235 | Rake: $2

Results:
UTG mucked 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, tens).
Always set had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: Always set won $233



djforever: o right
djforever: you always have a set
ESTPatrick: i dont play anything else

ESTPatrick
10.12.09, 11:41
djforever: obv
Dealer: Game #36491620105: ESTPatrick wins pot ($414.60) with three of a kind, Kings
ESTPatrick: obv
Dealer: Game #36491629256: Spoetter wins pot ($5)
djforever: always has a set imo


nimelt suutsin AKs-ga ta AA ka ära kräkkida. tüüp on murdumise äärepeal

Lutzky
10.12.09, 11:44
Kas ta arvas, et AK-ga said ka seti? Saad aru küll mida ma mõtlen.

ESTPatrick
10.12.09, 11:48
Kas ta arvas, et AK-ga said ka seti? Saad aru küll mida ma mõtlen.


saan aru, ta nii muserdatud juba, et tal savi mismoodi kolmikut kutsuda

McFoldberg
10.12.09, 16:11
djforever: o right
djforever: you always have a set
ESTPatrick: i dont play anything else




i lol'd

ESTPatrick
11.12.09, 10:33
kes teeb mulle 2/4 regularidest ülevaate. 1/2 kohta on näidis ka anda, mida täpselt tahan. maksaks 20$ Starsi. pakun et 1-2h tööd.

töösisu: otsida regulre PTR-st ja panna kirja nende winrate-d ja mängitud käte hulk limiidis 2/4, seda siis nii top winners kui top losers, et tuleks maksimaalne arv regulare ja ükski tõsisem tüüp vahele ei jääks.

saata PM

ESTPatrick
11.12.09, 11:06
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($278.25)
BB ($301.25)
UTG ($203)
MP ($745.60)
CO ($203)
Nit (Button) ($223)

Preflop: Nit is Button with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
3 folds, Nit bets $5, 1 fold, BB calls $3

Flop: ($11) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Nit bets $6, BB raises to $20, Nit calls $14

Turn: ($51) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Nit bets $32, BB raises to $78, Nit calls $46

River: ($207) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $124, Nit calls $120 (All-In)

Total pot: $447 | Rake: $3

Results:
Nit had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (flush, Ace high).
BB had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Nit won $444

ESTPatrick
11.12.09, 11:07
kes teeb mulle 2/4 regularidest ülevaate. 1/2 kohta on näidis ka anda, mida täpselt tahan. maksaks 20$ Starsi. pakun et 1-2h tööd.

töösisu: otsida regulre PTR-st ja panna kirja nende winrate-d ja mängitud käte hulk limiidis 2/4, seda siis nii top winners kui top losers, et tuleks maksimaalne arv regulare ja ükski tõsisem tüüp vahele ei jääks.

saata PM


tegija leitud

Owner85
11.12.09, 14:59
PTR pakub muidu seda,et saad kindla limiidi kohta osta mingi ulmelise hunniku käsi ja kui lauda istud siis on mängijate statsid juba ilusti olemas kui pole kokkupuuteid kunagi nendega olnud!obv sa tead seda ise ka muidugi:D

ESTPatrick
11.12.09, 17:56
tean, ostsin miljon kätt 2/4 kohta.

Owner85
11.12.09, 18:01
ja toimib kenasti?

andu_andu
11.12.09, 18:07
tean, ostsin miljon kätt 2/4 kohta.


see küll hea ei saa olla pokkerile, et nii osta saab. Kuid kui võimalus on siis obv tasub ära kasutada, sest teised ka arvatavasti teevad nii.

Dogers
11.12.09, 18:30
Palju miljon kätt maksab siis? igal limiidil omahind?

ESTPatrick
11.12.09, 19:50
ei ole veel proovinud kuna ei ole kindel kas võin need oma andmebaasi importida ehk kas stars saab seda kuidagi kontrollida, sest see keelatud starsi poolt muidu.

pole muidugi 2/4 eriti mänginud ka. ilmselt teen lihtsalt mõnede tüüpide kohta veidi eelpäringut ja proovin miskit eelist leida enne mängima asumist.

masterpuppet
11.12.09, 20:09
Palju miljon kätt maksab siis? igal limiidil omahind?

http://www.pokertableratings.com/hand-histories


Nl50 miljon kätt siis 40$ hetkel, 2/4 96$

Firzen
11.12.09, 20:15
ei ole veel proovinud kuna ei ole kindel kas võin need oma andmebaasi importida ehk kas stars saab seda kuidagi kontrollida, sest see keelatud starsi poolt muidu.

pole muidugi 2/4 eriti mänginud ka. ilmselt teen lihtsalt mõnede tüüpide kohta veidi eelpäringut ja proovin miskit eelist leida enne mängima asumist.


Mu elukaaslane kasutas seda sama teenust, aga FTP NL50 peal ja siiani pole küll keegi midagi ütlema tulnud. Pokkerituba ei saa seda mitte mingil juhul kuidagi kontrollida, mis toimub sinu arvutis.

Owner85
11.12.09, 20:16
screenid on seal muidu FTP omad,ehk siis kui see on keelatud ja nemad promovad siis saab vee peale tõmmata PTR saidile juhul kui kuskil PEENIKEST kirja pole et nemad ei vastuta ja bla bla!

kollane
11.12.09, 20:19
https://www.handhq.com/Buy-datamined-hands.aspx

siin odavam

Lutzky
11.12.09, 21:19
ei ole veel proovinud kuna ei ole kindel kas võin need oma andmebaasi importida ehk kas stars saab seda kuidagi kontrollida, sest see keelatud starsi poolt muidu.

pole muidugi 2/4 eriti mänginud ka. ilmselt teen lihtsalt mõnede tüüpide kohta veidi eelpäringut ja proovin miskit eelist leida enne mängima asumist.


seleta mulle kuidas nad seda kontrollivad. ega sa enda PS accoundilt raha ju üle ei kandnud.

Lutzky
11.12.09, 21:21
sitaks lahe sõpa oled, tegelikult ka

ranka
11.12.09, 23:54
seleta mulle kuidas nad seda kontrollivad. ega sa enda PS accoundilt raha ju üle ei kandnud.


Igiammune vaidlemise teema, mida enam ei olegi mõtet vaielda, sest PokerStars ei tee tõesti enam mitte midagi. Kui ta oleks dataminemise keelamise vastu reaalne huvi siis PTR ei saaks träkkida (ja ka siis müüa) PokerStarsi käsi.

kardpleier
12.12.09, 01:42
olen HandHQ-st isegi ostnud, kõik toimis ja nad pakuvad kuni Kuu vanuseid käsi.

ESTPatrick
12.12.09, 02:09
esialgse plaani järgi hakkan jaanuaris 2/4 Full time mängima ehk ei pöördu enne 1/2 poole tagasi kui olen a la 15 Buy-in miinuses või mis iganes sarnase numbri välja mõtlen. siis hakkan ka antud käsi kasutama.

ESTPatrick
12.12.09, 03:04
element64: i think u and jaril are gona make me put my head in a wall

ESTPatrick
12.12.09, 08:16
kui on frush, siis on frush


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MP ($399.40)
CO ($217.10)
Button ($251.80)
Superfrush (SB) ($248.35)
BB ($206)
UTG ($479.40)

Preflop: Superfrush is SB with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
3 folds, Button bets $6, Superfrush raises to $20, 1 fold, Button calls $14

Flop: ($42) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Superfrush bets $22, Button calls $22

Turn: ($86) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Superfrush checks, Button bets $52, Superfrush raises to $206.35 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $190 | Rake: $3

Results:
Superfrush didn't show 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (nothing).
Outcome: Superfrush won $187

tolmuahv
12.12.09, 14:56
Miks sa selle viimase käe bluffiks keerasid? Väga vähesed tugevamad käed oleks selle foldinud minu meelest. võib-olla 99-JJ ärtuga, AJ, etc. K-high ei foldi, Q on lauas ja seega võid (aga ei pruugi) saada foldima 8-J high flushi. Kas tasub $138 potti tallata 160 (vastase eff. stack) juurde, et ta nii väikese range pealt maha saada? Kui tihti vastane selle üldse foldib kui ta peab 35% good olema, et callida?

ESTPatrick
12.12.09, 16:40
Miks sa selle viimase käe bluffiks keerasid? Väga vähesed tugevamad käed oleks selle foldinud minu meelest. võib-olla 99-JJ ärtuga, AJ, etc. K-high ei foldi, Q on lauas ja seega võid (aga ei pruugi) saada foldima 8-J high flushi. Kas tasub $138 potti tallata 160 (vastase eff. stack) juurde, et ta nii väikese range pealt maha saada? Kui tihti vastane selle üldse foldib kui ta peab 35% good olema, et callida?


miks sa arvad et 8-J high peaks siin 35% ajast good olema? pigem on siin tegemist bluff või nuts olukord seega 8 high on suht sama mis K high frush. teen seda suht tihti A high-ga, isegi K high-ga nõrgemate vastaste vastu. antud juhul see arvesse muidugi ei lähe sest vastane tundmatu, kuid arvestades aega kui kaua ta võttis olen suht kindel et tal oli suht pädev käsi mis läks foldi.
siin on matemaatika ebaoluline suht, vastasel on kas A high mast või ei ja mida ma betsizingu ja eelneva mängu kohta ei saanud eeldada ja avaldasin survet, mille FE on päris hea tundmatu vastu. regulari vastu ei ole see hea moove pigem, eriti kõrgema winratega tüübi vastu kes pole straightforward. teh rahamasin ju.

Ps, mis sinu idee oleks, foldida? isegi kui vastane peab siin 35% ajast good olema siis ju allinn meil kasulikum kui fold, st kaotab vähem, kuna surnud raha ju nii palju juba potis

ESTPatrick
12.12.09, 18:16
loo lõpp:
ReifesEisen: lol
ESTPatrick: for value
ReifesEisen: rofl

loo algus:
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UTG ($135.80)
Valuenit (MP) ($200)
Button ($140.25)
SB ($205.30)
BB ($251.30)

Preflop: Valuenit is MP with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
UTG bets $6, Valuenit calls $6, 1 fold, SB calls $5, BB raises to $32, 1 fold, Valuenit raises to $200 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls $168

Flop: ($412) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($412) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($412) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $412 | Rake: $2

Results:
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, sevens).
Valuenit had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, sevens and threes).
Outcome: Valuenit won $410

tolmuahv
12.12.09, 18:50
miks sa arvad et 8-J high peaks siin 35% ajast good olema? pigem on siin tegemist bluff või nuts olukord seega 8 high on suht sama mis K high frush. teen seda suht tihti A high-ga, isegi K high-ga nõrgemate vastaste vastu. antud juhul see arvesse muidugi ei lähe sest vastane tundmatu, kuid arvestades aega kui kaua ta võttis olen suht kindel et tal oli suht pädev käsi mis läks foldi.
siin on matemaatika ebaoluline suht, vastasel on kas A high mast või ei ja mida ma betsizingu ja eelneva mängu kohta ei saanud eeldada ja avaldasin survet, mille FE on päris hea tundmatu vastu. regulari vastu ei ole see hea moove pigem, eriti kõrgema winratega tüübi vastu kes pole straightforward. teh rahamasin ju.

Ps, mis sinu idee oleks, foldida? isegi kui vastane peab siin 35% ajast good olema siis ju allinn meil kasulikum kui fold, st kaotab vähem, kuna surnud raha ju nii palju juba potis



Ma check-calliks, et anda vastasele võimalus ise flushi reppida. Misiganes selle teoreemi nimi oli - always bet 4-flush board OOP ilma flushita. Tihti keskmine flush checkib seal järgi. Kõrgem paneb for value ja non-flush bluffib tihti. Kuivõrd kõrgem sind niikunii väga tihti calliks, siis pole mõtet talle raha ette panna. Samas no-flush bluffib nii tihti, et ma annaks talle selle võimaluse.

Ehk siis sa ise bluffid siin väga vähe tugevamaid ja väga palju nõrgemaid käsi välja. Sealjuures nõrgemad üritaks väga tihti ise bluffida kui neile võimaluse annad.

ESTPatrick
12.12.09, 18:53
no 7 high flush on suht pask maha callimiseks, kuna ta võib bluffida sind paremaga, a la 8 või 9 high mastiga. RAISE ON ALATI PAREM (eeldusel, et fold ei ole variant), tal võib ka miski set olla ja sellejaoks pole ka tarvis oute anda

ESTPatrick
12.12.09, 22:10
MayZerG: wow, donk
MayZerG: lol
ESTPatrick: easy

MayZerG: i bet cus i knew u had acehigh tard
MayZerG: ez is the fact u called when its -EV
MayZerG: goodjob

ESTPatrick: i called bc i knew you have K high
ESTPatrick: +ev

Oliverk
12.12.09, 22:25
wow mida see vend nl200s (nl400?) teeb ?

töörnei oli.

ESTPatrick
12.12.09, 22:28
ei see oli SN 75k freeroll, aga noh järgmise käega suutis 77ga TT ära kräkkida mul , võidupot oleks andnud 10. koha stäki

langesin ka lõpuks TT-ga

ESTPatrick
13.12.09, 09:00
öösel juhtus 2 identset kätt, millest 1 oli superhea insta call ja teine timebank supersitt call. Miks oli üks hea ja teine **** call? ? ja põhjuseks ei ole, et ühe võitsin ja teise kaotasin

õppematerjal nr1

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Button ($197)
SB ($198)
BB ($395.60)
UTG ($54.05)
Bluff for value (MP) ($264.05)
CO ($208)

Preflop: Bluff for value is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
UTG calls $2, Bluff for value calls $2, 1 fold, Button bets $8, 2 folds, UTG calls $6, Bluff for value calls $6

Flop: ($27) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, Bluff for value checks, Button bets $16, 1 fold, Bluff for value raises to $50, Button calls $34

Turn: ($127) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Bluff for value checks, Button checks

River: ($127) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Bluff for value bets $40, Button raises to $139 (All-In), Bluff for value calls $99

Total pot: $405 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, fours).
Bluff for value had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and fours).
Outcome: Bluff for value won $402

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MS7YfmFkEc

õppematerjal nr2

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UTG ($205)
MP ($212)
CO ($765)
Call to give (Button) ($524)
SB ($200)
BB ($213.95)

Preflop: Call to give is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
UTG bets $6, 2 folds, Call to give raises to $18, 2 folds, UTG calls $12

Flop: ($39) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Call to give bets $20, UTG calls $20

Turn: ($79) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Call to give checks

River: ($79) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Call to give bets $40, UTG raises to $167 (All-In), Call to give calls $127

Total pot: $413 | Rake: $3

Results:
Call to give had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
UTG had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: UTG won $410

ESTPatrick
13.12.09, 15:49
hand 2 vs utg selline line wow wow ja siis wow :D


no sai maximumi mu käest ka, järelikult õige

ESTPatrick
13.12.09, 17:37
üks kino käsi, tohmani vastu. teadisn et tal on top paar või tugev 2nd paar seal 90%. turn andis aga nii palju võimalusi et ei pidanudki enam bluffima. super

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UTG ($487.05)
MP ($233)
Superread (CO) ($200)
Button ($38.30)
SB ($200)
BB ($418.90)

Preflop: Superread is CO with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif
2 folds, Superread bets $6, 2 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($13) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Superread bets $8, BB raises to $16, Superread raises to $44, BB calls $28

Turn: ($101) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Superread checks

River: ($101) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Superread bets $78, BB calls $78

Total pot: $257 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB mucked Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
Superread had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: Superread won $254

timukasr
13.12.09, 17:45
Oota, miks sa turni ei bettind? Nagu ca 21% juhtudel su käsi paraneb riveris ja võidad $257 poti ning ülejäänud juhtudel kaotad $101 poti ju.

ESTPatrick
13.12.09, 17:48
mai tea, kirjutasin parasjagu sõnumit. lihtsalt tundus et noway ma kaotan siin

no kui mõtlema hakata siis flopi 3bet oli juba täiesti pointless, arvestades readi oleksin ma võinud parem turnis allinn raisida või flopil easy foldi teha. kuid ta timingtell ütles mulle et üht või teistpidi ma selle poti endale saan

runnar
13.12.09, 21:35
äkki kirjutad paari sõnaga timingtellidest?

ESTPatrick
14.12.09, 03:33
timingtellid ei ole väga lihtsad aru saada, see on mul kuidagi intuitiivselt ise arenenud, sest erinevate mängijatetüüpidel kehtivad üldjuhul teised reeglid.

Üldised seaduspärad.

Regularid.
tavalistes väikestes pottides viivitab üleliigselt kaua pärast floppi järgnevatel tänavatel, siis 90% ajast foldib cbeti peale. samamoodi ka üldjuhul 3bet pottides, see annab üldjuhul märku seda, et tahab näidata et tal raske otsus millegi üle ja loodab et checkiksid järel. tavaliselt miski **** draw, või 2nd paar millel SD value olemas, aga ei tahaks enam raha sisse rohkem panna. muidugi on erandeid, kes neid asju ära kasutavad ja nende kohta on vaja note panna, mis on üsna lihtne. Kiire panustamine riveris NUTS 75% ajast ja BLUFF 25% ajast. seda on tegelt suht lihtne aru saada kumb on kui analüüsida käe käiku ja boardi tekstuuri, see juba igaühe enda intelligents. PF pikk mõtlemine ja allinn pigem mitte eliitkäsi, v-o AK, kuid üldjuhul näeb seal 99-JJ, AQ ja siis igasugust sitta siaks. mõni nit teeb nii AA-ga, kkuid seda ta statsidest kohe näha kui 4bet% on 0, 1k käe jooksul eelnevalt.

Tohmanid.
nendega on keerulisem, kuid üldreegel on et timingtell ja bettingpattern käivad käsikäes. minraise insta on üldjuhul draw ja kui seda ei ole siis on toppaar, kuid kuna ta PF raisinud ei ole siis üldjuhul **** top paar, mida ta on nõus foldima kui jätkata agressiooni kui teh station vastane ei ole. insta lead out riveris on väga tihti bluff, eriti kui ükski draw ei saabunud riveris, või siis miski kehv top paar, kus ta läheb for value. tulebki eristada kumba tohmaniga on tegemist for value või bluff tohmaniga, st seda et üks variant betib palju siis kui pole midagi ja vähe siis kui on ja teine vastupidi ja mõlemad teevad seda insta. kui donk mõtlema hakkab siis ta üldjuhul mõtleb foldi ja calli vahel minumeelest ja kui siis peaks raise tulema, mis on pigem väikene siis alati callin maha, kuna seal näeb bluffe ja muud sitta liiga tihti. kui dongil on käsi siis ta ei mõtle aja peale ta tahab kiirelt panustada ja kui ahne siis hästi palju, nii palju kui võimalik. kõik vist. suht tunde värk siiski pigem.

ESTPatrick
14.12.09, 06:37
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Superouter (SB) ($427.80)
BB ($218.35)
UTG ($212.75)
MP ($201.90)
Button ($297)

Preflop: Superouter is SB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif
2 folds, Button bets $6, Superouter raises to $20, 1 fold, Button calls $14

Flop: ($42) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)
Superouter checks, Button bets $20, Superouter calls $20

Turn: ($82) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Superouter bets $64, Button calls $64

River: ($210) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
Superouter bets $148

Game T!ght: do you even 3 bet aq
ESTPatrick: no
ESTPatrick: only AA
Game T!ght: you have qq?
ESTPatrick: straight

Button calls $148

Total pot: $506 | Rake: $2

Results:
Button mucked Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
Superouter had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: Superouter won $504

Dealer: Game #36666344182: ESTPatrick wins pot ($504) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Game T!ght: oh
ESTPatrick: yep im tight

uudishimu tapab

ESTPatrick
14.12.09, 13:28
oli üks erakordsemaid sesse just, nimelt oli laudades üks tüüp, kes multitablis statsideaga 56/54/27 ja on plussmängija. kuradi huvitav ikka oli mängida, variatsiooni viis muidugi taevasse, sai allinnis ta vastu käidud 55, 88, 66ga, AQ jne (enamasti foldis allinn peale) kokkuvõttes ta siiski võitis kõik suuremad potid nagu KQ vs minu QQ, 88 vs minu AQ jne. aga väärt kogemus oli.

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/%25231+Mathlete

see peaks olema full tildi mängija salomon vms, kes juba aastaid seda stiili lasknud, enamasti 5/10 ja kui ma ei eksi siis oli seal see aasta 150k$ plussis

tolmuahv
14.12.09, 13:37
Täitsa uskumatu üritus vennal. Kas ta mängib regide vastu samamoodi või maksavad donkid talle image pealt kõik välja? Postflop mäng peab suht solid olema vist härral.

Sebastian_du
14.12.09, 13:55
Sa arvad et reg ei maksa välja sellisele vennale?

tolmuahv
14.12.09, 13:58
Sa arvad et reg ei maksa välja sellisele vennale?


Ma ei arva eriti midagi. Aga kui reg ei suuda ring games lüüa venda 56/54/27 stattidega, siis ta tõenäoliselt ei suuda eriti adjustida.

Pahvak
14.12.09, 14:10
Mis need enamlevinud LAG statid on 6-maxis? Ilmselt mitte 56/54/27.

ESTPatrick
14.12.09, 14:33
no ütleme nii et pole kunagi nii keeruline olnud mängida kui selle tüübi vastu, tüübil oli väga miksed strateegia ja väga raske oli tema vastu mängida kuna bluffida ka teda lihtne ei olnud kuna ta lihtsalt ei foldinud oma top paari, vaid check callis maha ja igakord kui tal oli käsi pani sitaks kalleid bulleteid ja ta kätt oli sisuliselt võimatu lugeda, kuna seal oli ANY2 suited kaart pluss aegajalt ka korralikud lehed. ei ole lihtne mängida sellise tüübi vastu kui ise ka kaarti ei saa, seetõttu pidi ise veelgi trappijam olema kui tema ja obv callisin peaiga mängitava lehega positsioonis ta vastu kuna leidsin paar kohta kus sai teda ära kasutada, eriti slowplay kui ta blindil kuna pani squeeze koguaeg ja siis shippisin oma 55,66 allinni ja 70-80$ tasuta raha tiksus

no kui 5/10 regularid teda läbinisti läbi ei ammusta, siis 1/2s on seda palju tahta

kõige LAG-mad regularid 1/2s on 30/24 kanti vennad

ESTPatrick
14.12.09, 14:56
tüüp keda mainisin:

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/punketty

tüübi blogi: http://www.bluefirepoker.com/blog.aspx?blogid=30

ilmselt mõni tema õpilastest

ESTPatrick
14.12.09, 15:06
Mitte selle vastase vastu, aga huvitav käsi

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CO ($344.80)
Button ($200)
SB ($202.25)
BB ($126.95)
Unreal kui osav (UTG) ($278.80)
MP ($263.40)

Preflop: Unreal kui osav is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif
Unreal kui osav bets $6, 4 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($13) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $16, Unreal kui osav raises to $44, BB raises to $120.95 (All-In), Unreal kui osav calls $76.95

Turn: ($254.90) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($254.90) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $254.90 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (flush, Queen high).
Unreal kui osav had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (one pair, nines).
Outcome: BB won $251.90

stormwarning
14.12.09, 15:21
miks call @ AhJc? straightdrawsid on laual null ja sul on Ah käes, mis kitsendab ta teoreetilist shoverange veelgi. Või on antud vastase kohta konkreetne read, et donkpotib ja 3betshoveb floppi flushdrawdega?

ESTPatrick
14.12.09, 15:46
oli konkreetne read. pluss overbet kehva mängija poolt on 90% ajast miski draw, ma lootsin et ta callib mind ja siis saan blank turnis nuppe panna, kuid sobis ka see variant

lenC
14.12.09, 16:36
Siin kehtib ka see teoreem, et 3-bet paardunud flopil on enamasti bluff.

Jennifer
14.12.09, 18:42
Väga väärt lugemine!:)

tdx
14.12.09, 18:45
see peaks olema full tildi mängija samoleus vms, kes juba aastaid seda stiili lasknud, enamasti 5/10 ja kui ma ei eksi siis oli seal see aasta 150k$ plussis


FYP. Teda peetakse siiamaani üheks innovaatilisemaks mängijaks. Kui 2+2 arhiivides otsida, siis seal on sitaks tema threade, kusjuures ta mängu tehti omal ajal kõvasti maha, kuna ta stiil erines kardinaalselt standard 2+2 weak TAGi stiilist. Pre-UIGEA ta crushis Partys ikka jõhkralt AFAIK.

ESTPatrick
14.12.09, 21:14
kohe on pool kuud möödas ja hetkel on seis järgmine:

http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-top-hold'em-winners-month/1-2-NL


nähtud vaev mänguparandamisel tundub et on asja ette läinud, kuigi täna iseenesest mängisin enda kriteeriumite järgi väga halvasti kuid EV oli ikka miski 500-600$ plussis. vähe.


kui kedagi huvitab kuidas järsku winrate tõuseb siis key on tõsta postflopp efektiivsust ja seda mitte bluffides vaid pot kontrolli õigesti rakendades, mai ole suurt midagi muutnud, lihtsalt board tekstuuri järginud ja üleliigseid cbette maha võtnud raisidega, see kuu on won$when seen flop ca 46% üle 60k käe, kui alla selle siis on ruumi areneda kui üle ja winrate pole päris see, siis olete liiga spewy. ideaalse mänguga peaks 50% reaalne olema.

alaska
14.12.09, 21:20
WOW!!!

hotcocacola
14.12.09, 21:55
sick vend (Y)

Pahvak
15.12.09, 00:17
:)

Inspireeriv jutt ja tulemused.

kollane
15.12.09, 00:24
super ju ;D

pikk28
15.12.09, 01:01
respect

cypher
15.12.09, 01:47
Ilus :)

ESTPatrick
15.12.09, 10:14
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UTG ($216.60)
MP ($225.05)
CO ($265)
Soulread (Button) ($200)
SB ($172)
BB ($200)

Preflop: Soulread is Button with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
3 folds, Soulread bets $5, SB calls $4, BB calls $3

Flop: ($15) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $7, Soulread raises to $22, SB calls $22, 1 fold

Turn: ($66) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Soulread bets $42, SB calls $42

River: ($150) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Soulread bets $20, 1 fold

Total pot: $150 | Rake: $3

Results:
Soulread didn't show 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (nothing).
Outcome: Soulread won $147

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