33 maja vs river shove ?!?

[jaagup17]

PokerStars Game #39423375059: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2010/02/08 17:14:03 EET [2010/02/08 10:14:03 ET]
Table 'Tyumenia II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: vhm.Pook ($78.15 in chips)
Seat 2: MiesNL ($50.80 in chips)
Seat 3: xatteo ($75.05 in chips)
Seat 4: martijn246 ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: Sherstobitov ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 6: PENAC ($50 in chips)
Sherstobitov: posts small blind $0.25
PENAC: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PENAC [3h 3s]
vhm.Pook: raises $1.50 to $2
MiesNL: folds
xatteo: folds
martijn246: folds
Sherstobitov: folds
PENAC: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [4h 6c 6h]
PENAC: checks
vhm.Pook: checks
*** TURN *** [4h 6c 6h] [3c]
PENAC: checks
vhm.Pook: bets $3
PENAC: calls $3
*** RIVER *** [4h 6c 6h 3c] [5h]
PENAC: bets $7.50
vhm.Pook: raises $65.65 to $73.15 and is all-in
PENAC: calls $37.50 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($28.15) returned to vhm.Pook
*** SHOW DOWN ***
vhm.Pook: shows [6d 6s] (four of a kind, Sixes)
PENAC: shows [3h 3s] (a full house, Threes full of Sixes)
vhm.Pook collected $97.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $100.25 | Rake $3
Board [4h 6c 6h 3c 5h]
Seat 1: vhm.Pook showed [6d 6s] and won ($97.25) with four of a kind, Sixes
Seat 2: MiesNL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: xatteo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: martijn246 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Sherstobitov (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: PENAC (big blind) showed [3h 3s] and lost with a full house, Threes full of Sixes

Villain : 19/16 fold to river bet 80 Hands:326
Küsimus: Kas on võimalik foldida, ja kui mida peaks mõtlema? Ja kas ta shoveks A high mastiga ... tundub totaalne cooler, aga hakkas kripeldama, et on võimalusi foldida + pole committinud ka palju.

[andu_andu]

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UTG ($78.15)
MP ($50.80)
CO ($75.05)
Button ($50)
SB ($37.75)
Hero (BB) ($50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif
UTG bets $2, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($4.25) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($10.25) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, UTG raises to $73.15 (All-In), Hero calls $37.50 (All-In)

Total pot: $100.25 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, threes over sixes).
UTG had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (four of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: UTG won $97.25

Villain : 19/16 fold to river bet 80 Hands:326
Küsimus: Kas on võimalik foldida, ja kui mida peaks mõtlema? Ja kas ta shoveks A high mastiga ... tundub totaalne cooler, aga hakkas kripeldama, et on võimalusi foldida + pole committinud ka palju.


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[tolmuahv]

Vastane tundub täitsa adekvaatne olevat. Tuletaks meelde Zeebo teoreemi: Nobody ever folded a full house. Sul on kõigist võimalikest FH-dest nõrgim. Vastane räigelt overbetib riveril. Vastase range on minu meelest vaid AKs, AQs, 44, 55, 66. Kas ta flushiga tõesti sellise liigutuse teeks teades, et teda callib vaid full house? Ehk siis kui vastasele vähegi respekti annad, siis peab tal olema full house või quads ja sel juhul oled alati taga. Ehk siis sul on vaid bluff catcher siin ja pole vaja oma stacki ära anda minu meelest.

[taavo]

Väike meelespea edaspidiseks, et selliste käte puhul anna action edasi tänavate kaupa. Flop, turn ja river. Siis saad kõige täpsema analüüsi. Resultse nähes võib igaüks tarka panna, mitte et tolmuahv seda tegi. :D