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TanguTera
28.03.10, 13:53
Sai loodud kasutaja, et abi ja nõu saada oma mängu parandamiseks.
Igasugune kriitika ja nõuanded ja muu selline teretulnud!

Märtsikuus siis Full Tilt-is toksinud oma 5k kätt ära, tulemus nii ja naa.
Kuu alguses sai deponeeritud 125.- ehk 11,6$.
Mängin ainult Rush-is, kuna seal suudan ennast hoida rohkem tagasi lollusi tegemast mida tavalaudades tehes kohe pankrotist leian end.
Teine hea mõtte selgena hoidja on sihvkad :) Neid lasen pakkide viisi , et kursil hoida, kuid bad beat-id ajavad ikkagi Tilti :S


Vahepeal sai lausa 70-80$ ära nähtud, ning siis kivina alla tuldud :S
Kõige megam oli viimane käsi kus mul AA, võeti AK poolt ära , A tal pott, lauda 4 potti ja vsjoo. Ja mõned käed pärast seda mul AJs, flopp 44x, turn x, river x, mul A kõrge mast, tema flopis check, turn check ja river allin... no mida ikka teed callid ju .... ja vastu näidatakse 44 :S
Võtsin paariks päevaks aja maha, uurisin foorumit ja sai see teema tehtud.

Vahest targemad mängijad siin foorumis viitsivad mõnda näpunäidet anda, mida ette võtta.

Selle kuu graafik:
http://www.upload.ee/image/492434/5k_katt.jpg

Kogu info:
http://www.upload.ee/image/492435/Details.jpg

TanguTera
28.03.10, 14:00
Mängin Rushi & NL5-NL10-t vaheldumisi ja praegust ainult Full Ring.

Karikakar
28.03.10, 14:18
handhistoritest on veits rohkem kasu, kui sinu enda olukordade kirjeldustest :P

TanguTera
28.03.10, 14:33
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-FullTilt.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

CO ($4.63)
Button ($5.05)
SB ($5.38)
BB ($6.14)
UTG ($2.55)
Hero (UTG+1) ($3.60)
MP1 ($8.78)
MP2 ($4.36)
MP3 ($8.79)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.15, MP1 calls $0.15, 4 folds, SB calls $0.13, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold

Turn: ($1) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25

River: ($1.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, MP1 raises to $6.30, Hero calls $1.35 (All-In)

Total pot: $7.40 | Rake: $0.49

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
MP1 had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (four of a kind, fours).
Outcome: MP1 won $6.91


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SB ($2.19)
Hero (BB) ($1.82)
UTG ($26.92)
UTG+1 ($11.24)
MP1 ($15.80)
MP2 ($14.43)
MP3 ($4.54)
CO ($16.53)
Button ($9.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.35, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $1.85, Hero calls $0.72 (All-In)

Flop: ($4.04) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($4.04) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.04) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.04 | Rake: $0.26

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
MP3 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: MP3 won $3.78

flipmachine
28.03.10, 14:36
siht usual biidid juu .. aga su bet sized on paigast.

Karikakar
28.03.10, 14:38
pane neid käsi mis juhtuvad 3744 - 4138 vahel, mis selle jubeda kuristiku sisse toovad

E: Ja btw, miks sa 2$ NL10t mängid? 100BB on võiks ikka stack alati olla, kui pole nii palju raha, siis mängi vastavalt bankrollile.

ristijeesus
28.03.10, 14:53
Vpip/pfr 22/11 ja vpip 27 Sb-lt on ikka väga mööda, samuti preflop agression väga väike. Ära limbi või calli iga saastaga. Ja nagu eelnevaltki mainiti, betsized on ikka väga paigast ära.

TanguTera
28.03.10, 15:20
Selle suure languse põhjustas suurem tilt, esmalt NL10-nes bad beat ja seejärel lollus NL25-es käimine :(
Siin mõned käed, õhtuks otsin paremad-halvemad välja ja postitan.

Või kui keegi viitsib kogu hh -it vaadata võin kokku pakkida ja ülesse panna.

Püüan jah max buy-in mängida, kuid vahest panen min buy -iniga, kuna neid kes flopis 1$-se poti peale allin oma 5-10$ lükkavad leidub. Ja kui omad veel enamvähem kätt, näiteks flopist Top paar ja A kikker, (näiteks AQ flopp Q59). Tahaks nagu callida, kuid 9$ on natuke palju bingoks minuarust?

Vaatasin seda PT3-mes Final hands:
http://www.upload.ee/image/492626/Final_hands.JPG

Paistab, et mängin liiga palju ühte "top paari" ja kahte paari... peaks selle ära lõpetama?


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UTG ($14.82)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($11.09)
MP2 ($77.56)
MP3 ($16.47)
CO ($19.05)
Button ($8.54)
Hero (SB) ($50.30)
BB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, MP2 calls $1.75

Turn: ($5.25) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5.25, MP2 calls $5.25

River: ($15.75) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, MP2 calls $5

Total pot: $25.75 | Rake: $1.28

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CO ($25)
Button ($25)
Hero (SB) ($25.37)
BB ($17.99)
UTG ($23.16)
UTG+1 ($31.38)
MP1 ($61.12)
MP2 ($34.11)
MP3 ($17.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.25, 6 folds, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($0.75) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, UTG calls $1.25

River: ($4.25) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, UTG raises to $21.16 (All-In), Hero calls $16.16

Total pot: $46.57 | Rake: $2.32

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Hero (MP3) ($10.05)
CO ($6.95)
Button ($7.86)
SB ($19.95)
BB ($12.97)
UTG ($10.38)
UTG+1 ($15.98)
MP1 ($2.93)
MP2 ($4)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
4 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1

Turn: ($5.90) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $4.30, 1 fold

Total pot: $7.90 | Rake: $0.52

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BB ($10.35)
UTG ($12.21)
UTG+1 ($7.45)
Hero (MP1) ($8.14)
MP2 ($3.80)
MP3 ($9.97)
CO ($10)
Button ($7.74)
SB ($11.56)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
2 folds, Hero calls $0.10, 4 folds, SB bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.90) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.60, SB raises to $3.20, Hero raises to $7.24 (All-In), SB calls $4.04

River: ($16.38) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $16.38 | Rake: $1.09

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SB ($15.56)
BB ($2.90)
UTG ($12.07)
UTG+1 ($10.36)
MP1 ($8.76)
MP2 ($10.08)
MP3 ($0.53)
Hero (CO) ($15.21)
Button ($4.63)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
5 folds, Hero bets $0.50, Button calls $0.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.15) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, Button raises to $1, Hero raises to $14.71 (All-In), Button calls $3.13 (All-In)

Turn: ($9.41) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($9.41) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $9.41 | Rake: $0.62


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UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($2.30)
MP1 ($13.14)
MP2 ($13.26)
MP3 ($4.27)
Hero (CO) ($8.40)
Button ($9.40)
SB ($10.55)
BB ($6.37)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
5 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.90) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
SB bets $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35

River: ($1.60) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Total pot: $3.40 | Rake: $0.22

Results:
SB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, nines and twos).
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, tens and twos).
Outcome: Hero won $3.18

noname
28.03.10, 20:36
Suurim viga on väikse BR minna suurematesse limiitidesse tiltama.

Betsize nii mööda.
Alusta NL2 ja kasvata BR vähemalt 100$ ja mine NL5 5$ sisseostuga.
NL10 2$ mängida küll ei soovita.

TanguTera
28.03.10, 21:15
Eks alustan NL5-es siis, kuna Nl2 rush pole. Ja tavalauad enam ei paku huvi, st kannatust pole passida :) Ja läppari ekraanil on proovitud lasta 8-12 lauda korraga kuid kitsaks jääb :) Seega rush minujaoks suhtkoht ideaalne.

Mismõttes bet size mööda, äkki keegi seletaks paremini lahti?
On ju enne floppi 4xBB, pärast floppi 2/3- potist?
Kui tehakse Reraise, siis kas teha pot size reraise või allin?

Palju peaks BR olema NL10-ne / NL25 -e jaoks?

Vaatan oma käed läbi varsti ja siis sellised kus mööda mänginud panen siia.

SALMOSA
29.03.10, 04:01
Ei ole mõtet hakata veel vaatama NL25. Proovi ilusti põhi alla laduda endale seal kus sa oled siis vaata kõrgemale. BR NL 0.05/0.10 olla 250+ juhul kui peaks olema halvemaid päevi ja neid ka kindlasti on.
Esimeses käes ilmselt ranka tabeli järgi mängides ei oleks pidanud sa seda kätt mängimagi. Aga tavaline asi minnakse masti püüdma kahe ilusa punase kaardiga.
Teine käsi on cooler.
See kui sa ei viitsi väiksemas limiidis "passida" mida sa siis suuremates limiitidest unistad, seal on mäng palju lahtisem ja sa mängid vastast mitte kaarte mis sul pihus on.
Ja postita rohkem käsi mis sul sitasti välja kukkusid, et saaksid ise analüüsida ja lasta teistel aidata ennast.

Viimases käes kui sa pre-flop tõstsid siis võiksid c-beti otsa visata, kuna sul on positsioon tema üle ja vastane võib olla drawi peal. Check näitab, et vastane pole antud flopiga rahul (enamus selles limiidis mängijaid mängib fit or fold mängu) ja c-bet võtaks sul arvatavasti kohe selle maha. Turnil panus .35$ näitab samuti nõrkust vastase poolt, aga sa lased ta odavalt läbi callides tema panuse ja näidates ise samuti sellega nõrkust. Riveril tuleb kolmas masti kaart, kuigi vastasel antud hetkel polnud masti oleks tal olnud odav tõmmata seda .

TanguTera
29.03.10, 15:07
Need on vanad käed, märkusi seoses sisseostu summaga juba täheldanud ja edaspidi ostan max-iga sisse.

Panin spoilerite alla , et asi liiga kirjuks ei läheks.

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Hero (MP1) ($9.58)
MP2 ($12.41)
MP3 ($12.25)
CO ($3.90)
Button ($5.76)
SB ($4.05)
BB ($4)
UTG ($10.52)
UTG+1 ($5.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP3 bets $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.25) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.65) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

River: ($2.65) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1, 1 fold

Total pot: $2.65 | Rake: $0.17

Results below:
Hero didn't show 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (nothing).
Outcome: Hero won $2.48


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CO ($19.52)
Button ($10.18)
SB ($11.27)
BB ($10.15)
Hero (UTG) ($8.56)
UTG+1 ($5.10)
MP1 ($12.58)
MP2 ($3.46)
MP3 ($14.44)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Button calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (5 players)
SB bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds

Turn: ($1.30) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1

River: ($3.30) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.30, 1 fold

Total pot: $3.30 | Rake: $0.22

Results below:
Hero didn't show 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (nothing).
Outcome: Hero won $3.08


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SB ($20.13)
BB ($7.90)
UTG ($4.03)
UTG+1 ($3.51)
MP1 ($10.12)
Hero (MP2) ($9.99)
MP3 ($7.45)
CO ($12.20)
Button ($16.57)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $0.30, MP3 calls $0.30, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50

River: ($2.75) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP3 raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50

Total pot: $6.75 | Rake: $0.45

Results below:
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, nines).
MP3 had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (straight, seven high).
Outcome: MP3 won $6.30

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MP1 ($10.32)
Hero (MP2) ($7.08)
MP3 ($9.30)
CO ($16.79)
Button ($4.09)
SB ($5.78)
BB ($31.56)
UTG ($4.15)
UTG+1 ($8.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
3 folds, Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.30) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.90) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($2.90) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $4.38 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $2.90 | Rake: $0.19

Results below:
SB didn't show
Outcome: SB won $2.71


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MP2 ($5.69)
MP3 ($10)
CO ($4.06)
Button ($14.24)
SB ($9.90)
BB ($10.04)
UTG ($14.60)
UTG+1 ($6.60)
Hero (MP1) ($5.69)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
2 folds, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, CO calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: ($0.45) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, CO raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.65) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.55, Hero raises to $4.99 (All-In), CO calls $1.81 (All-In)

River: ($8.37) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $8.37 | Rake: $0.55

Results below:
Hero had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, King high).
CO had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: CO won $7.82


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SB ($2.19)
Hero (BB) ($1.82)
UTG ($26.92)
UTG+1 ($11.24)
MP1 ($15.80)
MP2 ($14.43)
MP3 ($4.54)
CO ($16.53)
Button ($9.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.35, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $1.85, Hero calls $0.72 (All-In)

Flop: ($4.04) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($4.04) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.04) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.04 | Rake: $0.26

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
MP3 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: MP3 won $3.78


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MP1 ($1.27)
MP2 ($1.90)
Hero (MP3) ($5.27)
CO ($5.55)
Button ($4.95)
SB ($4.66)
BB ($3)
UTG ($5)
UTG+1 ($6.99)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.15, 3 folds, BB calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.87) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25

River: ($1.37) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $1.37 | Rake: $0.09

Results below:
UTG+1 had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, fives).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero won $1.28


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BB ($2.03)
UTG ($9.90)
UTG+1 ($31.97)
MP1 ($10.09)
MP2 ($6.40)
MP3 ($4.08)
CO ($9.78)
Hero (Button) ($3.90)
SB ($8.77)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
5 folds, CO bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 2 folds, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1, CO raises to $3, Hero calls $2 (All-In)

Turn: ($7.95) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($7.95) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $7.95 | Rake: $0.53

Results below:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and threes).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Jacks and threes).
Outcome: Hero won $7.42


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Button ($3.70)
SB ($10.96)
BB ($10.27)
UTG ($4.05)
UTG+1 ($9.57)
MP1 ($4.20)
MP2 ($12.74)
Hero (MP3) ($5.86)
CO ($14.23)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 3 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.45) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

River: ($5.65) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $5.65 | Rake: $0.37

Results below:
MP2 had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $5.28


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CO ($2.15)
Button ($8.16)
SB ($10.15)
BB ($4.83)
UTG ($1.93)
UTG+1 ($10.60)
Hero (MP1) ($5.69)
MP2 ($3.16)
MP3 ($4.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $0.90, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.05) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($4.05) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.79 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $4.05 | Rake: $0.27

Results below:
Hero didn't show Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif.
Outcome: Hero won $3.78

TanguTera
29.03.10, 15:07
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MP1 ($12.97)
MP2 ($4.75)
MP3 ($3.69)
CO ($2.75)
Button ($14.08)
SB ($8.03)
BB ($4)
Hero (UTG) ($7.47)
UTG+1 ($23.82)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Hero calls $0.10, UTG+1 bets $0.40, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $1.40, 5 folds, Hero calls $1.30, UTG+1 calls $1

Flop: ($4.35) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $2.40, Hero raises to $6.07 (All-In), 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.95 (All-In)

Turn: ($11.05) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($11.05) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $11.05 | Rake: $0.73

Results below:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Kings).
MP2 had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, tens and eights).
Outcome: MP2 won $10.32


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MP3 ($11.24)
CO ($6.83)
Button ($6.12)
Hero (SB) ($9.80)
BB ($3.10)
UTG ($14.75)
UTG+1 ($12.67)
MP1 ($4.57)
MP2 ($10.78)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, CO bets $0.45, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.10) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10

Turn: ($3.30) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8.25 (All-In), CO calls $5.28 (All-In)

River: ($13.86) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $13.86 | Rake: $0.92

Results below:
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and tens).
CO had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (high card, King).
Outcome: Hero won $12.94


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SB ($3.18)
Hero (BB) ($10.53)
UTG ($11.63)
UTG+1 ($10)
MP1 ($5.60)
MP2 ($19.28)
MP3 ($10.95)
CO ($11.51)
Button ($4)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, MP3 bets $0.40, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.95) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95

Turn: ($2.85) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.05, MP3 raises to $6, Hero raises to $9.18 (All-In), MP3 calls $3.18

River: ($21.21) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $21.21 | Rake: $1.41

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and threes).
MP3 had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and threes).
Outcome: MP3 won $19.80


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Hero (MP3) ($10.05)
CO ($6.95)
Button ($7.86)
SB ($19.95)
BB ($12.97)
UTG ($10.38)
UTG+1 ($15.98)
MP1 ($2.93)
MP2 ($4)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
4 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1

Turn: ($5.90) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $4.30, 1 fold

Total pot: $7.90 | Rake: $0.52

Results below:
Hero didn't show 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif.
Outcome: Hero won $7.38

Karikakar
29.03.10, 18:55
1.Käsi - ära pf KKga calli kunagi, küta otsa.
4.Käsi - flopis võid vast julgemalt tõsta, pf said üpriski korraliku raise otsa see tähendab enamasti midagi tugevat millele selline flop peaks sobima.

Ja nagu eelnevalt mainitud, siis mängi 100BB stackiga.

flipmachine
29.03.10, 19:11
Mul on küsimus selle kohta ,et kas sul BR on nl10 jaoks piisav juba ?

TanguTera
29.03.10, 21:18
Hetkel mitte. Alustan vaikselt uuesti NL5-est ainult ja püüan 100-150$ kokku ajada NL10-ne jaoks.

Karikakar
29.03.10, 22:55
vähemalt 20BI oleks soovituslik limiidi vallutamiseks :)

mkva
30.03.10, 01:34
vähemalt 20BI oleks soovituslik limiidi vallutamiseks :)

vahest kõlbab 1BI ka

Karikakar
30.03.10, 01:56
vähemalt 20BI oleks soovituslik limiidi vallutamiseks :)


vahest kõlbab 1BI ka

:)

TanguTera
30.03.10, 16:15
Pole võimalik ka 10-20BI-ga alustada, pigem 1-2Bi-ga , tuleb lihtsalt elu ettevaatlikult võtta nagu varemgi :)
Õhtul panen natuke $$ peale ja proovin korralikult mängida :)

mkva
30.03.10, 16:16
tahad mängida lauas scarde moneyiga?

TanguTera
30.03.10, 16:57
Moneyscare küll pole, kui tuleb juurde $ siis tuleb kui ei siis ei ja peab mõnepäevase õppepausi taas :)

flipmachine
30.03.10, 17:22
Moneyscare küll pole, kui tuleb juurde $ siis tuleb kui ei siis ei ja peab mõnepäevase õppepausi taas :)

Võta kohe terve kuu vabaks ja kanna soliidne br peale. See 1-2BI jutt ei ole mõistlik.

mkva
30.03.10, 18:01
Siis hakkadki nii laskma v? Et kaks päeva mängid,tõmbad bustoks ja siis 2 päeva õppid ..

lol jutt indeed

timz0333
30.03.10, 22:05
Pole võimalik ka 10-20BI-ga alustada, pigem 1-2Bi-ga
Õhtul panen natuke $$ peale ja proovin korralikult mängida :)

See peab olema level ja väga kõrge.

Jennifer
31.03.10, 00:28
Äkki tal on mingi täiesti uus süsteem! ;)

mkva
31.03.10, 01:22
See peab olema level ja väga kõrge.

Või on tal oma kasutajanime suurnune mõtlemine? :p

TanguTera
01.04.10, 22:53
Või on tal oma kasutajanime suurnune mõtlemine? :p

Õpi õigekirja ;)

No kunas kõik väidavad , et pokker on oskusmäng, siis peaks teoorias ju piisama ka ühest BI?
Kuid online pokker on ikkagi nii rigged, et suht pohh, et flopist julmalt ees oled ja siis turn-river kõik vajaliku toob vastasele.


Jah olen vägagi kindel on live pokker on oskusmäng, kuid online on ikkagi suures osas õnnemäng. Suht vahet pole kas käes AK või 23, kui on õnn sinupoolt siis saad poti omale, kui õnne pole jääd ilma.

Siin mõned mainisid, mis mängid min sisseostuga, selleks , et kui saad midagi normaalset, QQ-KK-AA, et saad enam - vähem südamerahuga allin lükata , kunas 99% , et keegi hitib paremat :)

Ja camoon, kuidas saab olla igas käes põmst lauda tulla A või K ...

vapsik
01.04.10, 22:58
Kui see 1. aprilli nali, siis ma läksin küll õnge :p

flipmachine
02.04.10, 00:02
Õpi õigekirja ;)

Siin mõned mainisid, mis mängid min sisseostuga, selleks , et kui saad midagi normaalset, QQ-KK-AA, et saad enam - vähem südamerahuga allin lükata , kunas 99% , et keegi hitib paremat :)

Keegi ei kaota 99% ajast , mitte keegi !! Pealegi kui sul on min BI lauas , siis arvata on ,et sind callitakse rohkem ,sest mängijad on ennast suht commitinud juba ,kui nad raise teevad. oleks sul 200bb lauas siis keegi isegi ei mõtleks umbes 77-ga sinu pf all inni callida.

Ma sain ka täna sellist pasarahet tunda,et halb hakkab ..aga kuna mul on BANKROLL siis mõtlen , see oli täna , homme on uus päev.

Strateeg
02.04.10, 00:02
Kui see 1. aprilli nali, siis ma läksin küll õnge :p

+1

TanguTera
08.04.10, 01:13
Oskab keegi soovitada normaalset tuba, kus oleks häid turniire norm sisseostuga ca kuni 20$ aga ka ca -500 osalejat :)
Ft-s igas enam vähem turniiris tuleb mitu tuhat mudilast kokku, et suhtkoht õnneseen või elu kaardijooks peaks olema final tabelini jõudmiseks.

flipmachine
08.04.10, 14:10
uni ja trio ja muud sellised väiksed toad. Seal hommikuti on ikka eriliselt vähe osalejaid mingi 200-300 ringis ja ega õhtuti tuleb neid ka harva üle 1k.

totaldonk
08.04.10, 14:21
Oskab keegi soovitada normaalset tuba, kus oleks häid turniire norm sisseostuga ca kuni 20$ aga ka ca -500 osalejat :)
Ft-s igas enam vähem turniiris tuleb mitu tuhat mudilast kokku, et suhtkoht õnneseen või elu kaardijooks peaks olema final tabelini jõudmiseks.

trios hommikuti kell 11 2.50€ buyin 3000€ GTD 6max turbo rebuy turniir, väga soft, mängijaid 400 ringi.

timz0333
08.04.10, 19:52
trios hommikuti kell 11 2.50€ buyin 3000€ GTD 6max turbo rebuy turniir, väga soft, mängijaid 400 ringi.

Naabrimees rääkis, et seal õnne faktor jõle suur, ei tea kas tasub jälle...
Kolmapäeviti on ka suht hea turka mingi üle milli vahest isegi mitu milli pm garanteeritud ja sisse ost 20 eeku + unlimited rebuys terve nädal.

edit: See ka ei sobi tegelt vist field on sitaks suur.

flipmachine
08.04.10, 20:02
Naabrimees rääkis, et seal õnne faktor jõle suur, ei tea kas tasub jälle...
Kolmapäeviti on ka suht hea turka mingi üle milli vahest isegi mitu milli pm garanteeritud ja sisse ost 20 eeku + unlimited rebuys terve nädal.

edit: See ka ei sobi tegelt vist field on sitaks suur.

mõnus level ..

Ämmapets
09.04.10, 00:17
Naabrimees rääkis, et seal õnne faktor jõle suur, ei tea kas tasub jälle...
Kolmapäeviti on ka suht hea turka mingi üle milli vahest isegi mitu milli pm garanteeritud ja sisse ost 20 eeku + unlimited rebuys terve nädal.

edit: See ka ei sobi tegelt vist field on sitaks suur.

Suur lotokolmapäev?:biggrin:

TanguTera
09.04.10, 18:29
Kas väga valesti mängitud???

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-FullTilt.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

CO ($7.23)
Button ($12.70)
Hero (SB) ($18.35)
BB ($5.74)
UTG ($17.37)
UTG+1 ($4)
MP1 ($15.14)
MP2 ($4.21)
MP3 ($4.23)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $0.35, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.15, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.40) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.40) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP1 calls $2

River: ($9.40) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $10.49 (All-In), Hero ?????

Total pot: $9.40 | Rake: $0.62


Teinud 2+0.25$ 9man SNG-sid tavalisi praeguseks 4.
Tulemused: 1x1koht, 1x2koht, 1x4koht, 1x7koht. :)

farik666
09.04.10, 18:46
turni bet liiga väike, miski 4.50- paneks mina

TanguTera
09.04.10, 19:29
Selge.

Kuid riveris tema allin peale foldiks?

farik666
09.04.10, 21:37
arvatavasti mitte, kuna siis ta shoveb miski järelejäänud $7 $15sse potti et miski 3-1 oddsid + ta võib sinu checki peale väga vabalt bluffida missed drawd.

raunsz
09.04.10, 21:51
Bet size'd korda!
Flopis paneks 1.8 ja turnis 4.5.

flipmachine
09.04.10, 21:58
Selge.

Kuid riveris tema allin peale foldiks?

mina kindlasti.

TanguTera
09.04.10, 22:40
Okey, eks next time proovin paremini.

Sai tehtud järjekorras 5-es SNG (2+0,25$ 9man) ja 1 koht :)

Ei tea kas peaks rahalauad seljataha jätma selle väikse bankrolliga ja SNG-sid edasi grindima?

Hetkel bankroll siis 46,6$ (2he päeva pärast peaks Take2-st tulema lisa 25$).

nikitheone
09.04.10, 22:50
oleks flopil rohkem ka pannud. river fold 100%

TanguTera
10.04.10, 04:01
Mõtlesin küll korraks , et call, kuid siis jäin mõtlema , et potis niivõrd vähe $ (minu poolt mingi 4), et lisa 10 oleks mõttetu olnud.

Eks ta vist nii ole, et flopis mõtled vaikselt meelitada, ja turn-river annavad vastasele magusa käe :) Aga jah, eks vigadest õpitakse :)

leits
10.04.10, 04:07
pf suuremalt, flop suuremalt, turn suuremalt

TanguTera
10.04.10, 04:10
Väga loll call?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-FullTilt.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

MP3 (t1455)
CO (t1440)
Button (t1545)
SB (t1440)
BB (t1500)
Hero (UTG) (t2055)
UTG+1 (t1680)
MP1 (t825)
MP2 (t1560)

Hero's M: 45.67

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
Hero bets t120, 7 folds, BB raises to t450, Hero calls t330

Flop: (t915) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets t1050 (All-In), Hero calls t1050

Turn: (t3015) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3015) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t3015

Results below:
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, Queens).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won t3015

Edit: 6-es SNG ja 2 koht :)
Edit2: 7-es SNG ja 7 koht :)
Edit3: 8-s SNG ja 3 koht :)
Edit4: 9-s SNG ja 4 koht :)

ristijeesus
10.04.10, 08:59
Preflop loll ja flopis veel lollim. Preflop nupud sisse ja kui on flip, siis las õnnejumalanna teeb oma tööd.

TanguTera
10.04.10, 09:26
Olen tihti näinud, preflop allin-e AK-ga, kui suur on tõenäosus % , et võidad käe? 50-50?

ristijeesus
10.04.10, 09:41
Siin on sulle vajalik abimees http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-calculator/texas-holdem

TanguTera
10.04.10, 13:04
Kui sul on AK, enne sind on fold, teed 4xBB tõste, keegi läheb 3-5$ allin sellepeale, siis on ju targem foldida?
Kaotad küll 4xbb kuid samas callides on 50% võimalus kaotada 3-5$ lisaks ju?...

Karikakar
10.04.10, 13:10
see mis % on, sõltub ikka vastase kaartidest..

low-flow
10.04.10, 15:19
Kui sul on AK, enne sind on fold, teed 4xBB tõste, keegi läheb 3-5$ allin sellepeale, siis on ju targem foldida?
Kaotad küll 4xbb kuid samas callides on 50% võimalus kaotada 3-5$ lisaks ju?...

no kui ainult 50% võimalus on kaotada siis easy call, raha juba ju potis ja 50% kordadest võidad

TanguTera
12.04.10, 13:01
SNG-s
10-nes ja 9-s :S
11-nes ja 6-es :S
12-nes ja 2-ne :)
13-nes ja 3-mas :)
14-nes ja 5-es :S (see sai turbo võetud, kuigi tavaline on ikka parem ;) )
(sai tehtud superturbo sng 3,5+0,25$ ja õnnestus kolmas koht saada :) )
Kuigi rohkem sellist hullu ei taha teha :D
Seega 15-sng-d kokku :)

TanguTera
21.05.10, 11:31
Sai nüüd suigutud see aeg, ning nädal tagasi õnnestus FT-s saada turnalt 6-nda koha eest 126$. See siis muidugi 95% kandsin välja, ja jääk 5% läks bad beati alla magama... no lõpus viimased sendid juba tiltis allin :D

Tobe küsimus, seda on vist paljud küsinud, kuid küsin ikka :) , kas on reaalne mingi 500$ kuus pokkeriga teenida, et ära elatada ennast?

Mis limiidilt tuleks alustada selleks, ning palju peaks olema algne bankroll?

Hetkel ise juba detsembrikuust töötu, ning hetkeseisus suht nutune olukord, mõttes juba kogu maine vara maha müüa ja inglismaale või kuhugi minna tööd otsima vms... kuid naise ja lapse olemasolu teevad asja keeruliseks....

tdx
21.05.10, 14:34
(räägin cashgame poole pealt)
kui sa oled töötu, siis võib oletada, et sul on võimalik tööpäevadel mängida ~5h, see teeks kuus kokku 100h pokkerit, s.t $500 teenimiseks peaks su hourly olema $5.

oletades, et su skill on keskmine (2PT\BB) - ei crushi aga breakeven ka ei ole ja sa mängid 500 kätt tunnis, siis sobiv limiit oleks sulle NL25.

lisaks $500 mänguga teenitud profitile saaksid ka 27% rakebacki puhul ka ca $200-$300 extra.

Normaalne bankroll oleks 30-50 buyinni, see teeb mingi $750-1250.

nomerlot
21.05.10, 14:39
(räägin cashgame poole pealt)
kui sa oled töötu, siis võib oletada, et sul on võimalik tööpäevadel mängida ~5h, see teeks kuus kokku 100h pokkerit, s.t $500 teenimiseks peaks su hourly olema $5.

oletades, et su skill on keskmine (2PT\BB) - ei crushi aga breakeven ka ei ole ja sa mängid 500 kätt tunnis, siis sobiv limiit oleks sulle NL25.

lisaks $500 mänguga teenitud profitile saaksid ka 27% rakebacki puhul ka ca $200-$300 extra.

Normaalne bankroll oleks 30-50 buyinni, see teeb mingi $750-1250.

Aga see eeldab ideaalis ikkagi puhverraha, niimoodi noatera peal, et PEAD limiiti biitima ja kogu profiti cashoutima, mõjub selle volüümi juures mindsetile päris karmilt. Kui ikka mingi kuu tuleb downswing ja 500 asemel oled näiteks ainult 150$ plussis (rääkimata võimalikust miinusest, et ainult RB ongi kogu sissetulek), aga raha on ilgelt hädasti juurde vaja, siis võid mängides lollusi tegema hakata.

TanguTera
21.05.10, 17:17
Hetkel toksin 20$-ga UB-s.
Üle 100$ bankrolli sisse laduda ei saa, seega plaanis FT-s rushi mängida NL10-t. Eks näis kuidas välja kukub :D

Karikakar
21.05.10, 21:24
24-tabledes 6max NL2 on hourly 5$ üpriski pika sämple peale, kui käed peavad siis 12$+

Provoker
21.05.10, 21:48
NL2 kasuks räägib ka see, et mõtlema ei pea ning kellaaega ka ei pea valima mängimiseks.

nomerlot
21.05.10, 21:59
Jah, võta Karikakralt paar coachitundi, ta räägib sulle oma NL2 24-tablemise strateegia ja ranged ära ja ongi väike kindel rahamasin olemas. Karikakra NL2 graafik oli ikka jõhker, läks üles, nagu oleks joonlauaga tõmmatud :)

Karikakar
21.05.10, 22:22
Jah, võta Karikakralt paar coachitundi, ta räägib sulle oma NL2 24-tablemise strateegia ja ranged ära ja ongi väike kindel rahamasin olemas. Karikakra NL2 graafik oli ikka jõhker, läks üles, nagu oleks joonlauaga tõmmatud :)

Praegusel ajal on juba Relamzilt vaja võtta, kes teeb hea päevaga 100+$ :)
Temalt saaks seda vastupidavuse õpetust ka :D

Relamz
22.05.10, 08:15
Appi, ärge minu käest küll nõu küsima hakkake :D...mul mingi poolkahtlane mängustiil mis raha sisse toob. Ennem ikka Karikakra käest :).