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Pahvak
25.05.10, 13:24
Kuna viimasel ajal teen väga spewist mängu, siis hakkan iga kord lolle käsi ülesse panema, et tulevikus olla teadlikum oma otsustest/mõtteprotsessist. Kes teab, võib-olla panen ainult 2 tükki ja imeväel teen jälle A-mängu ning teema jääb unarusse.

Minust kui mängijast niipalju, et alustasin freerollidelt 1,5a tagasi ja praeguseks on üsna nitine NL100 br olemas.

Pahvak
25.05.10, 13:27
Vastasega (std. reg) oli ühel teisel 3-handed laual 3bet monkeyfest käinud. Preflop oli selge otsus floatida floppi, aga villain checkis. Turnis jooksis juhe kokku ja kuna equity tundus normal (30%), siis shovesin, kuid mis käed ta ikka foldib? Kindlasti mitte kõige parem mäng. :)

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UTG+1: $97.00
MP: $182.35
Hero (CO): $104.00
BTN: $167.20
SB: $122.85
BB: $137.00
UTG: $41.25

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 4 :club: A :club:
3 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, SB raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($15.00) J :club: 2 :heart: K :heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10

Turn: ($35.00) 5 :club: (2 players)
SB bets $15, Hero raises to $87 all in, SB calls $72

River: ($209.00) T :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

pastilaa
25.05.10, 14:37
Tore, et päeviku avasid - loodetavasti saab siit teemast palju tarkust! Eelnevast käest niipalju, et kõige enam kripeldama on endalgi jäänud analoogsed meta paugutamised regularidega. Üldiselt tundub, enda näitel, et selgelt -EV ettevõtmised. Vähemalt nüüd nende regularide fold equity suht null minu vastu ja saab nende vastu kergemini käega stacki kätte!

Pahvak
25.05.10, 15:51
Vähemalt nüüd nende regularide fold equity suht null minu vastu ja saab nende vastu kergemini käega stacki kätte!

Loodan ka. Regularid ka kõik nii erinevad. Squizzel oma blogis just kirjutas küll 6-max näitel, et alates NL600-st võid eeldada, et regularid muutuvad nö sarnaseks, aga enne seda peab iga regi vastu eraldi read olema. Ei tea, kas tõsi, aga huvitav mõtteavaldus muidugi ja minu spewi see ei õigusta. 8=)

Assuming other regulars think like you.

When you get to NL600+ and your playing against alot of very good winning players, its safe to assume that nearly all of the regs are on more or less the same level and know the same things, IE they know:

* The good double and triple barrel cards/spots.
* What hands constitute your 3-betting range from each position, your frequencies etc
* Your ranges in certain situations
* How you play strong made hands, weak made hands, draws etc on different board textures.

When you know your opponent thinks like you, it all comes down to levelling and looking for ways to exploit your opponents ranges for imbalances. However, at nl100-nl400 you will encounter a huge selection of regs that vary from being damn right awesome to mediocre at best. When your playing these limits its crucial to assume that not everyone thinks like you.

ESTPatrick
25.05.10, 17:39
vähemalt õiget blogi loed

pastilaa
25.05.10, 18:47
www.badvariance.com ?

Pahvak
25.05.10, 19:22
www.badvariance.com ?

Täpselt. Eile ilmus seal väga hea artikkel läbipõlemise teemal. Kahjuks on nende heade nõuaannetega nagu ikka - saan aru, luban õppust võtta, aga tegelikult käitun tihti vastupidi. Vähemalt väljakutseid jagub. :)

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Pahvak
02.06.10, 20:37
Ei teinudki mooovi.



BTN: $101.60
Hero (SB): $104.40
BB: $103.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 6 :spade: A :diamond:
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 5 :diamond: J :diamond: K :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, BB raises to $12, Hero raises to $34, BB raises to $100 all in, Hero calls $66

Turn: ($206.00) 4 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($206.00) 5 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $206.00
Hero shows 6 :spade: A :diamond: (a pair of Fives)
BB shows K :club: J :heart: (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
BB wins $205.00
(Rake: $1.00)

leits
02.06.10, 20:37
Myndid meeldivad sulle ja kopikad :D?

Pahvak
02.06.10, 20:45
Myndid meeldivad sulle ja kopikad :D?

Ma mängiks vorstiviilude peale kui saaks.

leits
02.06.10, 20:55
Hiirte juustu peale ka?

Pahvak
03.06.10, 12:32
Valuebluffisin regulaarset fishi ja ta valuecallis mind maha. Standard. Betsize turnis/flopis oleks võinud natuke-natuke suurem olla.



BB: $75.40
CO: $67.95
BTN: $200.45
Hero (SB): $103.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with K :diamond: A :spade:
CO calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $4, CO calls $4

Flop: ($15.00) Q :diamond: A :club: Q :club: (3 players)
Hero bets $7, BB folds, CO calls $7

Turn: ($29.00) 9 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO calls $15

River: ($59.00) 8 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $42, CO calls $40.95 all in

Final Pot: $140.90
CO shows Q :spade: 9 :spade: (a full house, Queens full of Nines)
Hero shows K :diamond: A :spade: (two pair, Aces and Queens)
CO wins $138.90
(Rake: $2.00)

dabljuu
03.06.10, 16:20
Täpselt. Eile ilmus seal väga hea artikkel läbipõlemise teemal. Kahjuks on nende heade nõuaannetega nagu ikka - saan aru, luban õppust võtta, aga tegelikult käitun tihti vastupidi. Vähemalt väljakutseid jagub. :)

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Just see mis vaja, aitäh Pahvak ja pea vastu ikka.

Pahvak
03.06.10, 22:08
Tänud. Regularist spewmonkey oli vastas.


BTN/SB: $100.50
Hero (BB): $103.25

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 8 :diamond: 7 :diamond:
BTN/SB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB raises to $27, Hero raises to $103.25 all in, 1 fold

Final Pot: $54.00
Hero wins $54.00

Pahvak
16.06.10, 14:09
Miks ma sakin? Tildin HU-s (FR lauad) ja olgem ausad, ega ma nii hea pole ka. Samas ma pole kunagi ära põlanud HU-s mitte ühegi regulariga mängimist vabandusel, et ta on must parem (kuigi tihti ma edge ei näe). Keeldunud olen vaid siis kui tunnen, et laudade arv kasvab üle pea. Okei, tegelikult on üks reg, kellega ma mängida ei taha, sest temaga läheks rohkem e-peenise mõõtmiseks. Seega tuleb vastaste valimisele nüüd rohkem tähelepanu pöörata ja oma ego maha suruda, sest ego paitamine on mulle maksma läinud -1.5k$.

Tõestusi tildist:

1) Mul polnud mitte mingit põhjust arvata, et ta 4betib lightilt. Muidu võib seda osade vastu imo teha. Totaalne valesti adjustimine.


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Hero (SB) ($103.50)
BB ($54.60)
Button ($101.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
Button bets $3, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, Button raises to $24, Hero raises to $103.50 (All-In), Button calls $77.70 (All-In)

Flop: ($204.40) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($204.40) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($204.40) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $204.40 | Rake: $1

Results:
Button had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and sixes).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: Button won $203.40



2) Wtf?! See pole for the win.

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BB ($54.50)
Hero (Button) ($107.65)
SB ($102)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Hero bets $3, SB raises to $9, 1 fold, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($19) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($43) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($43) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $22, Hero raises to $86.65 (All-In), SB calls $59 (All-In)

Total pot: $205 | Rake: $1

Results:
Hero had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, tens and sevens).
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (full house, Aces over tens).
Outcome: SB won $204


Tõestus tulemuste järgi. Panen ülesse kaks kokkuvõtet, kus üks on filtreeritud 2-handed ja teine 3-9 handed. Vaatasin käsitsi läbi ja ainuke miinus on mul 2-handed (3-handed, 4-handed,... on plussis). Sampel küll 2-handed jaoks väike, aga mis siis.

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Nagu näha - tight is right, kuigi saab ka paremini.


Kes tahab võib kodus arvuti taga pihku itsitada ja mõelda, et ma ju ütlesin, et foorumi meister HU-s suckib. Mind see ei huvita, tahaks vaid enda vastu aus olla. ;)

Lõpetuseks panen superhaigelt head hipsterite noise-pop lood! Laulja on pärit pop-bändist ja muusikalise poole pealt hoolitseb endise hardcore (metal) bändi Poison the Well liige. Üsna huvitav kooslus. P.S. Laulja on kena ka.

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Pahvak
20.06.10, 23:24
Tegin vahelduse mõttes odavaid (5$) HU all-in SNG-sid. Kaotasin 5/5, pole vist minu formaat.

vapsik
20.06.10, 23:59
Foorumi HU turnal lihtsalt kulutasid kogu oma luckboxi ära :)

Pahvak
21.06.10, 00:19
Õiges kohas kulutasin vähemalt (vist?). :)

Pahvak
24.06.10, 17:51
6bb/100 regular 200k käe põhjal. Hea, et ta mu kohta ikka märkmeid on teinud. Igav käsi muidu.

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MP1 ($41.85)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($86.60)
nitipoiss (Button) ($193.20)
SB ($67.90)
BB ($35)
UTG ($126.30)
UTG+1 ($100.50)

Preflop: nitipoiss is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $3, 1 fold, nitipoiss raises to $10.50, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $25, nitipoiss raises to $193.20 (All-In), MP2 calls $75 (All-In)

Flop: ($201.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($201.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($201.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $201.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
nitipoiss had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and eights).
MP2 had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, tens and eights).
Outcome: nitipoiss won $198.50

Pahvak
25.06.10, 11:13
Öak. Viimasel ajal suht head mängu teinud, aga täna oli vaja ikka ära keerata. Mõtlesin, et HU ainult bumhundin, aga põhiliselt FR 9-handed ja siis sellel regularil oli ikka vaja lauda ronida ja mõtlesin, et teen paar kätt. Vähemalt irl on upswing ja ei spewi.

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Hero (SB) ($100)
BB ($103)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
Hero bets $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $12, Hero raises to $97 (All-In), BB calls $85

Turn: ($200) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($200) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $200 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, tens and sevens).
BB had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (full house, sixes over tens).
Outcome: BB won $199.50

SB ($164.85)
BB ($35)
UTG ($68)
MP ($80.70)
CO ($84.50)
Hero (Button) ($120.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, MP bets $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, MP raises to $21, Hero raises to $120.60 (All-In), MP calls $59.70 (All-In)

Flop: ($162.90) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($162.90) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($162.90) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $162.90 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, eights).
MP had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, eights).
Outcome: MP won $159.90

Pahvak
06.07.10, 20:44
Kuum ilm on süüdi, kes see muu. Mina ei eksi kunagi.

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SB ($105.10)
BB ($100)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($97.55)
Hero (MP1) ($107.50)
MP2 ($101)
CO ($118.25)
Button ($126.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $3, MP2 raises to $10.50, 4 folds, Hero calls $7.50

Flop: ($22.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $13, Hero raises to $41, MP2 raises to $77.50, Hero raises to $97 (All-In), MP2 calls $13 (All-In)

Turn: ($203.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($203.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $203.50 | Rake: $3
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Pahvak
07.07.10, 14:50
Spew of the day: T8s! Sain tema rangest kõige parema käe enda vastu (40% equityt).

Metagame: I'm doing it wrong.

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suited ju (Button) ($100)
SB ($29.70)
BB ($26.85)
UTG ($126.90)
MP1 ($94)
MP2 ($152.05)
CO ($100)

Preflop: suited ju is Button with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
3 folds, CO bets $3, suited ju raises to $10, 2 folds, CO raises to $24, suited ju raises to $100 (All-In), CO calls $76 (All-In)

Flop: ($201.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($201.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($201.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $201.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
suited ju had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Outcome: CO won $198.50

leits
07.07.10, 15:13
milleks siukest metad btw teha? 3betist saan veel aru kuid 5b ai? imo see on puhas spew ja saab ju lihtsamini rahad k2tte ja ei pea m2ngu nii swingiseks ajama

Pahvak
07.07.10, 15:16
Mindseti probleemid obv.

leits
07.07.10, 15:57
ma lugesin 3lk mindseti l2bi .. aitas .. reisil yritan koik ö2bi saada :D

Pahvak
07.07.10, 16:57
ma lugesin 3lk mindseti l2bi .. aitas .. reisil yritan koik ö2bi saada :D

Mindset sõbra käes ja kardan, et sellest pole abi ka. Tellisin endale Tommy Angelo The Elements of Poker raamatu. Otse autorilt 40$. Vast tuleb kohale kunagi.

Pahvak
09.07.10, 00:14
Vastas minusugune regularist metamees. Vahel veab kah.

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UTG ($28.70)
salakaval (Button) ($102.80)
SB ($85.65)
BB ($100)

Preflop: salakaval is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, salakaval bets $3, 1 fold, BB raises to $10, salakaval calls $7

Flop: ($20.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $11, salakaval calls $11

Turn: ($42.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $23, salakaval calls $23

River: ($88.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $56 (All-In), salakaval calls $56

Total pot: $200.50 | Rake: $2

Results:
salakaval had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
BB had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, fours).
Outcome: salakaval won $198.50

Pahvak
10.07.10, 18:57
Kaotasin vist eile pangakaardi ära ja ostsin täna pokkerirahade (moneybookers, letsgo) eest jäätist, kalja, Ekspressi ja sulepadja. Ilmselt tuleb õhtul ka õlut ja süüa osta. Head asjad need pokkerirahad.

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pastilaa
11.07.10, 18:02
Pokkerirahadest saadavat fiilingut sõnadesse tõesti panna ei saa. Kuidagi selline tunne: http://gif-animation.leovacity.be/images/happy-monkey-gif-animation.gif

Pahvak
14.07.10, 00:20
Sain ka natuke suuremat potti mängida.


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saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($164.45)
SB ($200)
BB ($144)
UTG ($224.35)
UTG+1 ($144)
MP1 ($56.60)
Hero (MP2) ($207.40)
CO ($277.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, Button raises to $6, 1 fold, BB calls $5, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($20.10) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $20.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $69, Button calls $48.50

Turn: ($158.10) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $132.20 (All-In), Button calls $89.25 (All-In)

River: ($336.60) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $336.60 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Kings).
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Hero won $333.60

low-flow
14.07.10, 14:40
Suur pot on suur :P

Muide, mis su screenname on? Sama limiit ja sama sait ikkagi, ei oleks soovi põrkuda :D Ranka leitisi ja Rage eest niigi viilin oma teed kõrvale juba. :P

Pahvak
14.07.10, 15:05
Suur pot on suur :P

Muide, mis su screenname on? Sama limiit ja sama sait ikkagi, ei oleks soovi põrkuda :D Ranka leitisi ja Rage eest niigi viilin oma teed kõrvale juba. :P

Ma ei taha seda siia kirjutada, sest olen paranoik (kuigi nagunii kõik teavad. Kes sina oled? Aga noh alati kui eestlane lauas, siis arvata võib, et fish ta ei ole. Praegu miksin NL50 laudu juurde ka, sest päeval ei näe mõtet (skilli) 7 regulari ja ühe 35bb fishiga NL100s madistada. ;)

low-flow
14.07.10, 19:39
Kusjuures, ma pole sind vist kordagi laudades näinud. :O Vähemalt nimi jäi esmapilgul võõraks ja üldjuhul oleks ikka meelde jäänud, sest kui solid statid ja eestlane, alati panen värvi külge.

Eestlastest fishidest nii palju, et NL25-st mäletan küll päris mitut, kellel puudus igasugune teadmine isegi elementaarsetest aspektidest ja vähemalt ühte olen ka NL50-s näinud, kelle pärast PTR-ist järgi vaatamist selgus, et graafik on konkreetne joon kuristikku pikka aega, kahjuks nicki ei mäleta.

Minu sn leiab mu päeviku esimesest postist (hetkel ka viimasest) ja enamus välismaa saitidel olen selle nimega. Low-Flow olen ainult triobetis ja seal pole aastaid midagi mänginud.

Pahvak
22.07.10, 18:35
Vahelduseks midagi ilusat. Tildiprobleemid on kõvasti vähenenud, HU-d üritan mitte näppida, kuu on plussis ja Tommy Angelo The Elements of Poker ootab postimajas.

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saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($61.80)
BB ($34)
UTG ($147.95)
UTG+1 ($110)
MP1 ($66)
agro quadminer (MP2) ($100)
CO ($35)
Button ($100)

Preflop: agro quadminer is MP2 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG bets $4, 1 fold, MP1 calls $4, agro quadminer raises to $16, 5 folds, MP1 calls $12

Flop: ($37.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $50 (All-In), agro quadminer calls $50

Turn: ($137.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($137.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $137.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
MP1 had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, Jacks).
agro quadminer had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (four of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: agro quadminer won $134.50

ristik
22.07.10, 18:42
quadminer :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Pahvak
24.07.10, 11:07
Üks read on väärt rohkem kui tuhat senti.


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SB: $86.00
Hero (BB): $100.00
BTN: $116.25

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A :club: 9 :spade:
1 fold, SB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($5.00) 9 :heart: 8 :spade: 2 :heart: (2 players)
SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($14.00) J :spade: (2 players)
SB bets $20.50, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $20.50

River: ($55.00) 6 :club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $55.00
SB shows K :heart: 8 :club: (a pair of Eights)
Hero shows A :club: 9 :spade: (a pair of Nines)
Hero wins $54.00
(Rake: $1.00)

Pahvak
24.07.10, 11:11
Villain 14/7/0.8 ag ja agg%=33 ainult 43 kätt.

Ühelt poolt on flop halb cbettimiseks, aga teiselt ma kahtlustan, et ta range on 70% missed pocketid. Pluss vastane on natuke passive (saame ehk SD). To cbet or not to cbet? :p


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SB: $100.00
BB: $147.90
UTG: $105.65
UTG+1: $100.00
UTG+2: $108.00
Hero (MP1): $100.00
MP2: $129.35
CO: $100.00
BTN: $101.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP1 with 8 :spade: 8 :heart:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 5 folds, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($9.50) 9 :diamond: J :heart: T :heart: (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9.50) K :spade: (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $6, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Final Pot: $9.50
UTG+2 wins $9.05
(Rake: $0.45)

Pahvak
24.07.10, 11:18
Ahjaa. Elements of Poker on siiamaani parim mindseti raamat, mida ma lugenud olen. Hea on lugeda kui inimesele on antud kirjutamisoskust ja vähemalt minu jaoks on Poker Mindset natukene ülehinnatud võrreldes T.A. raamatuga. Ta on olnud elukutseline muusik ja praegu pokkerimängija/mindset coach, kes on huvitunud ka budismist. Natukene häirib, et osad peatükid on liiga pisikesed, aga sellest raamatu nimi Elements...

Tommy kirjutas väikese pühenduse ka.

To xxx,

Remember - to win at poker, you have to be very good at losing.

Tommy

Vastik fanboy

Kotkas1000
24.07.10, 11:33
Villain 14/7/0.8 ag ja agg%=33 ainult 43 kätt.

Ühelt poolt on flop halb cbettimiseks, aga teiselt ma kahtlustan, et ta range on 70% missed pocketid. Pluss vastane on natuke passive (saame ehk SD). To cbet or not to cbet? :p


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SB: $100.00
BB: $147.90
UTG: $105.65
UTG+1: $100.00
UTG+2: $108.00
Hero (MP1): $100.00
MP2: $129.35
CO: $100.00
BTN: $101.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP1 with 8 :spade: 8 :heart:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 5 folds, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($9.50) 9 :diamond: J :heart: T :heart: (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9.50) K :spade: (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $6, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Final Pot: $9.50
UTG+2 wins $9.05
(Rake: $0.45)


Mina arvan, et UTG limp-call ranges on suisa 90% ajast pocket paar. Ehk mina betiksin siin flopil küll. Kui saan calli, siis sellel turnil paneksin teise barreli veel.

Pahvak
25.07.10, 15:13
Mina arvan, et UTG limp-call ranges on suisa 90% ajast pocket paar. Ehk mina betiksin siin flopil küll. Kui saan calli, siis sellel turnil paneksin teise barreli veel.

Tänud, kotkas, tundub mõistlik.

Pahvak
30.07.10, 14:22
Kui headest NL100 laudadest jääb puudu, siis võtan NL50st juurde. Sain ühe üsna põneva käe enda arust, kus natuke kaheldav on flopi mäng ja river.

Vastane 12/6/5.0 ja 29% aqfq. ~150 kätt.


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saw flop

Hero (SB) ($50.25)
BB ($41.30)
UTG ($17.95)
UTG+1 ($55.20)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($26.05)
CO ($17.50)
Button ($79.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $1.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $3.25, MP1 raises to $6, Hero calls $2.75

Turn: ($15.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

River: ($15.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8, MP1 raises to $42.50 (All-In), Hero calls $34.50

Total pot: $100.50 | Rake: $3

Flop. Flopil on imo tema rangeks setid ja 2paarid. Tõmmetega väga harva minraisetakse ja vastane on siiski nit. Flopil võiks tegelikult ka sisse ajada, aga otsustasin nõrgema range vastu mängida (ei ole standard). Lisaks sellele 2pair käed ei improve väga tihti riveriks majaks.

Turn. Turn on väga huvitav kaart, mille check-calliksin, aga ilmselt väga suure tõenäosusega checkib nitike behind, sest see on scarecard, kuna ma ainult callisin, mis paljude silmis viitab tõmbele. Nit checkib. Nüüd on üsna selge, et tal on mingi made hand, mis ilmselt pole TP. Blank kaardi korral oleks turn läinud ilmselt c-r.

River Üsna halb kaart minu jaoks. Otsustasin bet-foldida, aga siiski callisin (stick to your plan, Pahvak!). Sette on raske foldida :(. Aga miks fold? Selline vastane ei bluff-raise riverit mitte kunagi ja pealegi shoven ma ise alati kui tean, et suure osa ajast moodustavad vastase range second nutsid. Tagantjärgi meeldiks mulle rohkem check-call, sest betil on imo vähe valuet. Aga sel juhul saame ka piisavalt peksa.

Võib-olla läks mu mõttekäik liiga käe tulemusega kokku ja olen result-oriented. Kommenteerige-kritiseerige, sest kuidagi väga ebastandartne liin sai.

Pahvak
02.08.10, 11:51
Eile tegin enda arust üldjoontes super mängu ja rekordilised 3k kätt päevas. Mindset oli rauast ja kaardijumalad tahtsid mind murda, aga ei tulnud neil sellest midagi välja. Noh kui välja arvata olukorrad, kus mul olid 80-90% equityd (seti ja overpairidega on teatud olukordades üsna julge oma equitys kindel olla), mis tõmmati korduvalt ära. Aga meel on hea ja -6BI (600$) alla EV. P.S. Eile olid lauad mega fishised.

FQSkueM8fjM

Pahvak
03.08.10, 00:28
Suht cool käsi mu meelest. Meil omajagu historyt ja note ka:

"pool poti on nõrkus? ja laseb pigem showdwonile
99 tahab maha checkida oop a high
ajasin monotone tema vastu A high draw wsisse
!!!3b me 44 ja 83KJA barreldas thjaks end. sama QKKxJ. 87s
3b potis tegin c-f ta vastu"

Flopil võib ta bettida terve rangega, et pot maha võtta, aga turnil repib nutsu (QQ, KK, AK, QKs), kusjuures mõnikord ju nutsu slowplaytakse a la minnakse check-raise peale ja nutsu kombosid pole nii palju. Isegi AA-ga ta võib karta, et mul AK. River on blank sellessuhtes, et kas sa tõesti bettisid turnil AJ gutshoti ja nüüd shoved? Või arvasid, et JJ on turnis valuebet?

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saw flop | saw showdown

MP1 ($94)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($96.95)
kutsumisjaam (Button) ($100)
SB ($102)
BB ($212.20)
UTG ($98.50)

Preflop: kutsumisjaam is Button with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
4 folds, kutsumisjaam bets $3, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, kutsumisjaam calls $7

Flop: ($21) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $12, kutsumisjaam calls $12

Turn: ($45) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $27, kutsumisjaam calls $27

River: ($99) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $53 (All-In), kutsumisjaam calls $51 (All-In)

Total pot: $201 | Rake: $3

Results below:
kutsumisjaam had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Kings and tens).
SB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: kutsumisjaam won $198

Pahvak
03.08.10, 14:21
Üks käsi, mis iseloomustab hästi EV joont ja selle veidrusi. Mängu pole mõtet kommenteerida, ise olen pf otsusega rahul. Mõelda võib mitmel eri viisil.

1) HEMi EV joon arvutati flopil 66% equity põhjal.
2) Teiseks oleks enamustel juhtudel nagunii stackid flopil või pre-flop sisse läinud, kuna nad oleks nagunii sisse läinud, siis võib võtta preflop equityks minu kunnidele ~20%.
3) AA vs KK on nagunii cooler, kus pikas perspektiivis raha liigub edasi-tagasi, sest üldiselt mängitakse neid käsi üsna sarnaselt.
4) KKga on üldiselt +EV preflop stackida või postflop 3bet potis non A high-l. Ehk equity üldiselt >50%

Ehk igaüks saab valida endale meeldiva põhjenduse. ;)

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saw flop | saw showdown

MP1 ($31)
MP2 ($82)
CO ($89.05)
Button ($68.55)
SB ($100.50)
Hero (BB) ($106.50)
UTG ($97)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
2 folds, MP2 bets $2, 1 fold, Button raises to $7.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.50, MP2 calls $5.50

Flop: ($23) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $15.50, 1 fold, Button raises to $61.05 (All-In), Hero calls $45.55

Turn: ($145.10) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($145.10) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $145.10 | Rake: $3

Results below:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $142.10

Pahvak
09.08.10, 19:17
Sain just viimase 1000 käelise sessiga +5BI ja kuu plussi. Jooks on natuke kehv olnud, aga enda mäng on võrreldes eelnevaga üsna spewivaba, mindset aasta parim ja volüümi suudan ka natuke lasta - nädalaga 25h ja 15k käsi.

Üks põnev käsi ka regulari vastu. Coldcallis teist regulari ja nüüd shoveb KK? Tegin kunagi ise midagi sellist NL50s ja üks eesti reg hammustas selle nii kähku läbi, et snapcallis ja pärast heatahtlikult seletas oma mõttekäiku. Sellest vist mulgi instacall. Miks ma esialgset regulari 3bettisin? Ta openrange oli lai ja ma ei hakka multiway potti kasvatama (kuigi ta utg jätkamisrange oleks ilmselt mega strong).


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saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($77.20)
BB ($100)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($105)
MP1 ($100)
Hero (MP2) ($100)
MP3 ($100)
CO ($37.15)
Button ($112.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $3, MP1 calls $3, Hero raises to $13, 6 folds, MP1 raises to $100 (All-In), Hero calls $87 (All-In)

Flop: ($204.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($204.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($204.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $204.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
MP1 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, sixes).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and sixes).
Outcome: Hero won $201.50

Pahvak
15.08.10, 16:48
MP2 on ok regular 18/13/1.3 agro%=24. Ülejäänud, kes flopil jätkavad on fishid ja point on selles, et ma usun, et ma oleksin pidanud selle vähemalt turnis foldima, sest kahtesid ta ranges pole ja ülepaaridega oleks ta fishilt enne mu c-r valuet võtnud ja veel vähem ta paneb praegu otsa. Flopil mõtlesin samamoodi, aga fold oleks imo liiga weak ja turnil mõtlesin siiski (lollusest) check-shoveda või olen liiga results oriented?

Ei viitsi seda fullring alamfoorumisse panna, kuna enda jaoks asi suht selge.

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saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($100)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($111.55)
MP1 ($117.40)
MP2 ($102.75)
MP3 ($94.40)
CO ($167.40)
Button ($127.45)
Hero (SB) ($100)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $2, MP1 calls $2, MP2 calls $2, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($10) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $1, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $6, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $21, Hero calls $14, UTG+1 calls $14

Turn: ($74) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $52, Hero raises to $77 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $77, MP2 calls $25

River: ($305) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $2.75 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $2.75

Total pot: $310.50 | Rake: $3

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (full house, twos over Aces).
UTG+1 had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, nines and twos).
MP2 had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (full house, fours over twos).
Outcome: MP2 won $307.50

A muidu läheb hästi, tänan küsimast.

PCkT4K-hppE

leits
15.08.10, 16:54
Mis su bb/100 on NL100?

Pahvak
15.08.10, 18:51
Mis su bb/100 on NL100?

Breakeven? Viimasel ajal on paremini läinud. Vahepeal filtreerisin 2 handed välja, siis see oli näiteks -1500$.

Pahvak
24.08.10, 00:25
100bb stackid. Fish avab MP-lt 3bb ja ma 3betin 12bb AA-ga. Flop tuleb: J:heart: T:heart: T:spade:. Bet-bet-shove on ju ok, eks või peaks T-d kartma?

Suht raske mingit range panna, kuna neid Tx kombosid võib olenevalt fishist olla palju või ka vähe.

90/10 fish oli, aga ainult 10 kätt, aga fish ta oli.

Pahvak
03.09.10, 23:04
5bet bluffi regulari poolt ei näe igapäev. Olin teda sessi jooksul korra 4bet bluffinud, kus ta foldis.


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saw flop | saw showdown

MP2 ($35)
CO ($107.95)
Button ($42.70)
SB ($103.45)
BB ($138.35)
Hero (UTG) ($100)
MP1 ($100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Hero bets $3, 4 folds, SB raises to $11, 1 fold, Hero raises to $25, SB raises to $39, Hero raises to $100 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $79 | Rake: $0

Results:
Hero didn't show Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif.
Outcome: Hero won $79

Pahvak
04.09.10, 17:11
Raske herocall. Vastas reg, kes foldis 50% 3bettidele üle 82x.


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saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($101.50)
Button ($100)
SB ($86.30)
kutsumisjaam (BB) ($208.50)
UTG ($67.70)
UTG+1 ($106.40)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($114.60)

Preflop: kutsumisjaam is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $3.50, 3 folds, SB calls $3, kutsumisjaam raises to $14, MP1 calls $10.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($31.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
kutsumisjaam checks, MP1 checks

Turn: ($31.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
kutsumisjaam checks, MP1 bets $22, kutsumisjaam calls $22

River: ($75.50) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
kutsumisjaam checks, MP1 bets $64 (All-In), kutsumisjaam calls $64

Total pot: $203.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
kutsumisjaam had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and tens).
MP1 had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, tens).
Outcome: kutsumisjaam won $200.50

tdx
04.09.10, 20:38
ei ole raske imo, kuna T ta ei beti turnis kunagi ja QJ tõenäosus on väike (sul blocker).
ma cbetiks siiski flopi.

Pahvak
05.09.10, 13:03
ei ole raske imo, kuna T ta ei beti turnis kunagi ja QJ tõenäosus on väike (sul blocker).
ma cbetiks siiski flopi.

Miks? Millelt valuet saame. :)

tdx
06.09.10, 00:08
kuna tegu regiga, siis cbetiks balansi mõttes.
kui hero cbetib A-high flopi, siis ta range on väga lai.
Kui hero check-callib A-high flopi, siis ta range on võrdlemisi kitsas.

Mõnes mõttes mulle villaini liin isegi meeldib, kuna riveris su range on JJ-QQ, KQo ja nõrgad ässad. Eeldusel, et sa ca 46% ajast seal foldid, siis ta shove on 0EV. Samas, kui ta 3bettidele ei foldi, siis ta ise ei repi ka sittagi seal.

Pahvak
18.09.10, 15:01
Midagi hingele ehk sellised nad siis laupäeviti on. Esimene on mul märgitud kui kehv regular. A muidu läheb vist hästi.

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saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($100.50)
BB ($254.30)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($131.45)
MP1 ($114.45)
MP2 ($116.25)
CO ($134.50)
Hero (Button) ($151.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero bets $5, 1 fold, BB calls $4, UTG+1 calls $4, MP2 calls $4

Flop: ($20.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $14, BB calls $14, 2 folds

Turn: ($48.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $34, Hero raises to $80, BB raises to $235.30 (All-In), Hero calls $52.05 (All-In)

River: ($312.60) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $312.60 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
BB had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero won $309.60


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saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($147.35)
UTG+1 ($101.85)
MP1 ($24)
Hero (MP2) ($109.05)
CO ($107.40)
Button ($98.90)
SB ($44)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP1 calls $1, Hero bets $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($10) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button raises to $12, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($34) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $24, Hero calls $24

River: ($82) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Total pot: $82 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, threes).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Jacks and threes).
Outcome: Hero won $79


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saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($98.85)
UTG+1 ($100.65)
MP1 ($122.10)
MP2 ($7.05)
CO ($105.90)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($101.80)
BB ($112.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG bets $3, 4 folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $7

Flop: ($21.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero raises to $30, UTG calls $20

Turn: ($81.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $35, Hero raises to $60 (All-In), UTG calls $23.85 (All-In)

River: ($199.20) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $199.20 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Aces and eights).
UTG had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: UTG won $196.20


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Pahvak
19.09.10, 16:53
Funny 3-bet.

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saw flop | saw showdown

MP2 ($100.70)
Hero (MP3) ($100)
CO ($36)
Button ($90)
SB ($51)
BB ($108.30)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($95.50)
MP1 ($110)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, Hero bets $5, 3 folds, BB raises to $27, 1 fold, Hero raises to $100 (All-In), BB calls $73

Flop: ($202.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($202.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($202.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $202.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $199.50

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Pahvak
27.09.10, 00:37
Solid liin.

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SB ($139.50)
Hero (BB) ($100)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
SB calls $0.50, Hero bets $100 (All-In), SB calls $99

Flop: ($200) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($200) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($200) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $200 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Queens).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: SB won $199.50


Donk vastas.

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MP2 ($72.85)
CO ($100)
Button ($100)
SB ($100.70)
Hero (BB) ($293)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($103.35)
MP1 ($56.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, Button bets $4.50, SB calls $4, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, SB calls $11.50

Flop: ($37.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero raises to $40, SB calls $30

Turn: ($117.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $67, SB calls $44.70 (All-In)

River: ($206.90) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $206.90 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: SB won $203.90


Pühapäeva suurim võidetud.

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UTG ($106.45)
MP1 ($137.65)
MP2 ($94)
CO ($49.95)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($105.05)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, Hero bets $4, 1 fold, BB calls $3, UTG raises to $10, Hero calls $6, BB calls $6

Flop: ($30.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $18, Hero calls $18, BB raises to $52, UTG raises to $96.45 (All-In), Hero calls $72 (All-In), BB calls $38 (All-In)

Turn: ($300.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($300.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $300.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
BB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, nines).
UTG had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $297.50


Pühapäeva suurim kaotatud. 160bb effective. Sisulisiselt BE olukord, sest kui kaardid ära vahetada oleks rahad samamoodi sisse läinud ilmselt. Aga EV näitab, et jooksen alla.

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SB ($100)
BB ($101.50)
Hero (UTG) ($183.30)
UTG+1 ($160.80)
MP1 ($62.65)
MP2 ($83.30)
CO ($110.10)
Button ($103.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
Hero bets $3, UTG+1 raises to $9.85, 6 folds, Hero raises to $29, UTG+1 calls $19.15

Flop: ($59.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $36, UTG+1 raises to $131.80 (All-In), Hero calls $95.80

Turn: ($323.10) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($323.10) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $323.10 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and nines).
UTG+1 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (full house, Kings over nines).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $320.10


Back to 98.

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Pahvak
27.09.10, 14:13
Okei, mul on viimase 3 kuu ja 66k käe winrate NL100s 7.19bb/100. Kas tegemist on heateriga või võib varsti NL200 proovida?

Muidu on kokku 130k kätt ja winrate 3.4bb/100, aga selle aja sees oli be kohanemisperiood ja väga-väga palju halba mängu (HUs nt. regularidega -1.5k ja 3b/4b/5b shove asjad 9 handed mängus). Ahjaa mindset oli ka nii rõve - sisuliselt tiltasin oma kasumit maha, kuna uus limiit keeras mõistuse ****. Kardan, et kui NL200 lähen, siis mindset läheb mingiks ajaks jälle katki. Rollis ei tohiks probleem olla.

soouni
27.09.10, 14:51
mõnus on arengut näha :) good luck keeping winrate high (Y)

Pahvak
09.10.10, 14:08
Funny hand.

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saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($209.85)
UTG+1 ($199.40)
MP1 ($191.85)
MP2 ($169.25)
Hero (CO) ($174.20)
Button ($146.30)
SB ($125)
BB ($270.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 1 fold, MP2 bets $7, Hero calls $7, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $6

Flop: ($25.10) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $20, Hero calls $20, 1 fold

Turn: ($65.10) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 bets $60, Hero raises to $147 (All-In), MP2 calls $82.05 (All-In)

River: ($349.20) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $349.20 | Rake: $3

Results:
MP2 had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, sevens).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won $346.20

pastilaa
09.10.10, 15:09
Siin topicus kajastatav on pesueht domineerimine!

Pahvak
09.10.10, 15:21
Siin topicus kajastatav on pesueht domineerimine!

Kuna pokker pidavat sport olema, siis tellisin endale grindimissärgi.

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inward
09.10.10, 15:43
Mingi aeg sa spewisid korralikult ja ei läinud üldse nii hästi. Vaadates praegu siis biidid ilusti, mis sulle selle nö tõuke andis ?

Pahvak
09.10.10, 16:45
Mingi aeg sa spewisid korralikult ja ei läinud üldse nii hästi. Vaadates praegu siis biidid ilusti, mis sulle selle nö tõuke andis ?

Viimased 80k käsi on tõesti hästi läinud - loodame, et ikka skillist. Kõige suurem leak oli regularidega uutes laudades HU mängimine, mille tilt kandus omakorda tavalistesse laudadesse üle. FR regularil on HUs üsna raske aru saada, mida kompetentne vastane teeb ja kui ma ei saa aru, mis toimub, siis tulevad ka vead. Praegu mängin HU ainult fishidega.

Teine asi, mida ma jälgin on, et kui ma ei saa aru, mida ma täpselt teen, siis targem on seda mitte teha.

Kohati olen üsna station kui mu range tundub nõrk. Samuti ma ei pane igas olukorras automaatselt 'otsa', vaid enne mõtlen ka, et kui otsa panen, kas ta siis ikka callib mind või mitte ja targem on tal olenevalt boardist lasta barreldada (üsna raske muidugi ilma initsiatiivita mängida).

Note teen kõvasti (ka siis kui ise käes ei osale), bumhundin, vaatan käsi üle.

Pahvak
10.10.10, 20:04
Võtsin elus esimest korda paar NL200 lauda juurde ja regular tegi muuvi.

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Hero (BB) ($200)
UTG ($544.50)
UTG+1 ($203)
MP1 ($200)
MP2 ($104)
MP3 ($171.75)
CO ($143.95)
Button ($271.30)
SB ($204.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $7, 5 folds, Hero raises to $22, MP1 raises to $200 (All-In), Hero calls $178 (All-In)

Flop: ($401) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($401) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($401) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $401 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Kings).
MP1 had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: MP1 won $398

g00000se
10.10.10, 20:17
Ta teadis, et turn tuleb 9 :D

leits
10.10.10, 20:18
fishide arvukus vs nl100ga pyhap2eva õhtul, sama?

Pahvak
10.10.10, 20:28
Fishe tundus, et on samapalju, aga laudu oli vähem ja raskem uusi alustada. Samas mängisin NL100ga segamini ainult ~1k käsi ka.

Pahvak
13.10.10, 17:18
Iga limiidi alguses hiilib spewikurat ligi. Ise ka süüdi, et nädala keskel uut limiiti katsetasin, kergelt väsinud + natuke kehv päev.

Eelnev käitumine oli regularil imelik - 5bet shoves 22 ühe teise regulari vastu, mis kallutas otsust tegema.

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saw flop | saw showdown

MP1 ($240.15)
MP2 ($198.45)
Hero (CO) ($204.95)
Button ($165.75)
SB ($119.90)
BB ($210)
UTG ($151.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Hero bets $8, 2 folds, BB calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($19) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $40, Hero raises to $196.95 (All-In), BB calls $156.95

Turn: ($412.90) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($412.90) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $412.90 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, sixes).
Hero had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, sevens and fours).
Outcome: BB won $409.90


Sama reg, kes 5bet shoves pocket 22-ga.

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saw flop | saw showdown

MP1 ($222.15)
MP2 ($425.30)
Hero (CO) ($200)
Button ($81.80)
SB ($451.40)
BB ($100)
UTG ($40.65)
UTG+1 ($366.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
4 folds, Hero bets $6, 1 fold, SB raises to $21, 1 fold, Hero raises to $42, SB raises to $451.40 (All-In), Hero calls $158 (All-In)

Flop: ($402) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($402) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($402) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $402 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and eights).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Jacks and eights).
Outcome: SB won $399


Vastas reg. Ei tea, kas on vaja uues limiidis kohe flipata, kui mindset niigi nõrge. Oleks saand ka flopis callida vms.

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saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($200)
UTG ($218.35)
MP ($212.10)
Hero (Button) ($217)
SB ($110.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $6, Hero raises to $18, BB raises to $45, Hero raises to $213 (All-In), BB calls $151 (All-In)

Turn: ($401) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($401) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $401 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, sevens).
BB had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (full house, sixes over sevens).
Outcome: BB won $398


Biiti kah.

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saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($277)
MP1 ($104.75)
MP2 ($155.80)
Hero (CO) ($200)
Button ($212)
SB ($214.30)
BB ($77.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
2 folds, MP2 bets $6, Hero raises to $18, 3 folds, MP2 calls $12

Flop: ($39) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $25, MP2 calls $25

Turn: ($89) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $69, MP2 raises to $112.80 (All-In), Hero calls $43.80

River: ($314.60) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $314.60 | Rake: $3

Results:
MP2 had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (full house, twos over fours).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and fours).
Outcome: MP2 won $311.60


Ilmselt jätan NL200 nädalavahetuste teemaks. Regularid tundusid paremad.

Pahvak
16.10.10, 15:11
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SB ($110.05)
Jaam (BB) ($102.80)

Preflop: Jaam is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
SB bets $2, Jaam raises to $8, SB calls $6

Flop: ($16) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Jaam bets $10, SB calls $10

Turn: ($36) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Jaam checks, SB bets $23, Jaam calls $23

River: ($82) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Jaam checks, SB bets $69.05 (All-In), Jaam calls $61.80 (All-In)

Total pot: $205.60 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Jaam had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Outcome: Jaam won $205.10

Pahvak
19.10.10, 21:34
AAAA


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saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($108.90)
SB ($60)
BB ($75.50)
Hero (UTG) ($109.05)
MP ($43.55)
CO ($233.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Hero bets $3, MP calls $3, 1 fold, Button calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($10.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $6, MP calls $6, 1 fold

Turn: ($22.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $11, MP raises to $34.55 (All-In), Hero calls $23.55

River: ($91.60) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $91.60 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (four of a kind, Aces).
MP had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won $88.60

Mrt1989
19.10.10, 22:17
Ei tea mis värk täna full tildis oli , sain ka AA quadsi :D

Pahvak
19.10.10, 22:41
Ei tea mis värk täna full tildis oli , sain ka AA quadsi :D

Ma sain eile, aga ju siis homme saab mõni eestlane veel. :heart:

raunsz
19.10.10, 22:59
Sain ka. FTPs on alati nii palju nutse. FH ja quadse kukub, kas siis endale või vastastele.

Pahvak
19.10.10, 23:04
Hmm... tundub, et boomswitch on sisse lülitatud. Ei tea, kas leitsil ka?

low-flow
19.10.10, 23:08
10:spade: riverisse ja BadBeat jackpot taskusse imo.

alaska
20.10.10, 11:35
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SB ($110.05)
Jaam (BB) ($102.80)

Preflop: Jaam is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
SB bets $2, Jaam raises to $8, SB calls $6

Flop: ($16) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Jaam bets $10, SB calls $10

Turn: ($36) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Jaam checks, SB bets $23, Jaam calls $23

River: ($82) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Jaam checks, SB bets $69.05 (All-In), Jaam calls $61.80 (All-In)

Total pot: $205.60 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
SB had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Jaam had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Outcome: Jaam won $205.10

nice call. Instashoves riveri?

Pahvak
20.10.10, 13:58
nice call. Instashoves riveri?

Jep. Mida see HUSNG meeste silmis tähendab, kas nõrkust? Kuna kaart preflop jooksis, siis 3bettisin teda omajagu, aga alla ta 3b potis kordagi anda ei tahtnud.

leits
20.10.10, 16:41
Hmm... tundub, et boomswitch on sisse lülitatud. Ei tea, kas leitsil ka?

no worries, ma jooksen septembri algusest juba sitasti .. puhkan downswingi hetkel välja .. joomisega kui nii öelda

Pahvak
22.10.10, 18:14
totmacher333: letsssssssss play
Pahvak: lets not :P
totmacher333: come on lets play few hands
Pahvak: ill play if you call me the king of lags
totmacher333: youre the real king of lags
totmacher333: :)))))))
Pahvak: lol :)
Pahvak: ok 10 hands
totmacher333: k

-andres-
22.10.10, 18:17
Mulle kutt järgi ei istu igatahes :D.

masterpuppet
24.10.10, 03:32
Mulle istuvad ka millegi pärast ainult need, kes mind biidivad. :/ EI tea, milles asi.

Pahvak
24.10.10, 15:02
Ei oska öelda, kas ta mind biidib, aga erilised ilalõuad, kes mängid tahavad minuga on -xFatto 1x- ja -xericks222x-. Need peaks suht ok winratega ja edgega (minu üle) regid olema, kellele mingi aeg spewisin omajagu maha. Esimene on eriline pärdik, kes alati minust vasakule tahab istuda ja 3bettima asub. Tegelikult on neid veel, aga praegu ei tule ette. :)

soouni
24.10.10, 15:27
Targetid olete neil vast siis :)

Pahvak
25.10.10, 01:40
Leitsi jooks.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8262/leits.jpg

con
25.10.10, 01:54
mul nl10 10k käe peale -2BB/100, pedekad bumhundivad mind juba..
sad

pastilaa
25.10.10, 09:02
Leitsi jooks.

Kinnitan.

Pahvak
30.10.10, 05:06
Paar stiilinäidet. Esimene on väga mõnusalt jabur. :)

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BB ($100)
UTG ($99)
MP ($127.50)
CO ($116.35)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG bets $2, MP calls $2, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $8, MP calls $8, CO calls $8

Flop: ($41.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (4 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $25, UTG raises to $89 (All-In), 1 fold, CO calls $89, Hero raises to $90 (All-In), CO calls $1

Turn: ($310.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($310.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $310.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (high card, Ace).
UTG had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (high card, Queen).
CO had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (straight, six high).
Outcome: CO won $307.50


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MP3 ($45.50)
Hero (CO) ($114.25)
Button ($77.05)
SB ($294.80)
BB ($265.80)
UTG ($106.55)
UTG+1 ($143.45)
MP1 ($117.70)
MP2 ($148.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 bets $3, 3 folds, Hero raises to $11, 3 folds, UTG raises to $37.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $64, UTG raises to $106.55 (All-In), Hero calls $42.55

Flop: ($217.60) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($217.60) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($217.60) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $217.60 | Rake: $3

Results:
UTG had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: UTG won $214.60

vapsik
30.10.10, 09:15
Valusad käed, aga spewipäevikust loodaks ikka mõnda tublit spewd näha.

Pahvak
30.10.10, 11:28
Viimasel ajal spewid nii väikesed ja alla 100bb effektiivsete stackidega, et häbi kohe panna. Samas ei taha päeviku pealkirja "Pahvaku domineerimispäevikuks" ka veel teha.

See vist pole ka väga õige spew. Kuigi mingit readi tema 3b harjumuste kohta polnud.

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saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($73.95)
UTG ($86.55)
MP1 ($113.15)
MP2 ($64.35)
CO ($131.95)
Hero (Button) ($122.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, CO bets $4, Hero calls $4, BB raises to $7, UTG calls $6, CO calls $3, Hero raises to $35, BB calls $28, 2 folds

Flop: ($84) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $38.95 (All-In), Hero calls $38.95

Turn: ($161.90) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($161.90) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $161.90 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and fours).
BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and fours).
Outcome: BB won $158.90


Viimase aja vahvaim spew on selle posti esimene käsi.
http://foorum.pokkeriprod.com/showpost.php?p=265025&postcount=69

Pahvak
31.10.10, 18:53
Vastas hea 7bb/100 regular. Ise olen rahul.


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saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($30.75)
UTG+1 ($35)
MP1 ($101.95)
cool story, bro (MP2) ($110.25)
MP3 ($79.05)
CO ($100)
Button ($81.50)
SB ($105.50)
BB ($35)

Preflop: cool story, bro is MP2 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
3 folds, cool story, bro bets $3, 1 fold, CO raises to $10.50, 3 folds, cool story, bro calls $7.50

Flop: ($22.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
cool story, bro checks, CO bets $16, cool story, bro raises to $32, CO calls $16

Turn: ($86.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
cool story, bro checks, CO bets $57.50 (All-In), cool story, bro calls $57.50

River: ($201.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $201.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
cool story, bro had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
CO had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: cool story, bro won $198.50

Hullapple
31.10.10, 21:58
Kui saladus pole siis mis selle regi screenname on?

Pahvak
31.10.10, 22:32
Et ta ennast googeldades ei leiaks: adfaxxxxdaveaneoxxxxjdjepwa. X-de vahel. ;)

Hullapple
31.10.10, 22:46
tänud

masterpuppet
01.11.10, 00:29
Antud isik on jah silma jäänud ühe agressiivseima regularina. Õnneks pole tema vastu eriti üldse mänginud, sest mänguajad on väga erinevad, kuid väldin temaga ühte lauda istumist.

Aga hullapple, nagu aru saan, siis ise ka NL100 FTP? Peaks miskise nn anonüümse NL100 regularide nurga tegema, kus kõi regid ära kaardistaks.

Pahvak
01.11.10, 10:33
Aga hullapple, nagu aru saan, siis ise ka NL100 FTP? Peaks miskise nn anonüümse NL100 regularide nurga tegema, kus kõi regid ära kaardistaks.

+1. Ma täpselt ei tea, kuidas seda korraldada, aga päris hea oleks kui iga FTP NL100 reg siit foorumist täiendaks aegajalt regularide listi oma notedega (3bet potide harjumused igal regularil on kuldaväärt näiteks imo). Ma mõtlen mõtekaid note, mitte stiilis "c-r mind setiga", lol.

-andres-
01.11.10, 14:09
+1. Ma täpselt ei tea, kuidas seda korraldada, aga päris hea oleks kui iga FTP NL100 reg siit foorumist täiendaks aegajalt regularide listi oma notedega (3bet potide harjumused igal regularil on kuldaväärt näiteks imo). Ma mõtlen mõtekaid note, mitte stiilis "c-r mind setiga", lol.

Kõik peaks olema tehtav, kui huvi on. Kui Ranka tagasi võin uurida, mis võimalused on.

Pahvak
01.11.10, 14:24
Kõik peaks olema tehtav, kui huvi on. Kui Ranka tagasi võin uurida, mis võimalused on.

Ise eriti orgunnimisega tegeleda ei viitsiks, aga omalt poolt notedega ikka aitaks (ja loeks obv). Aga ilmselt see huvi ongi kõige raskem takistus (et kõik ikka contributeks jne).

Kotkas1000
01.11.10, 15:57
Hehee - kulda väärt mõte iseenesest. Ühise jõuga hakkaks 10bb/100+ rege lammutama :) Omalt poolt oleks lisada sinna kõvaste note.

pastilaa
01.11.10, 16:29
Vabandused OT pärast, aga Starsis võiks sama korraldada. Endalgi ühtteist juba kogunenud. Personaalne lähenemine suurimatele vaenlastele oleks lahe :).

Hullapple
01.11.10, 16:46
Antud isik on jah silma jäänud ühe agressiivseima regularina. Õnneks pole tema vastu eriti üldse mänginud, sest mänguajad on väga erinevad, kuid väldin temaga ühte lauda istumist.

Aga hullapple, nagu aru saan, siis ise ka NL100 FTP? Peaks miskise nn anonüümse NL100 regularide nurga tegema, kus kõi regid ära kaardistaks.

Vägagi nõus. NL100-s olen mänginud hetke seisuga üpriski vähe, 30k kätt umbes. Headest regularidest olen siiani eemale hoidnud kuna kardan et nad lihtsalt skilliga sõidavad minust yle. Aga fakt on see kui tahad solid winrate-ga NL100 biitida siis tuleb ka reg waridest osa hakata võtma.

Pahvak
01.11.10, 16:59
Kasvõi näiteks midagi sellist, et mingis peidetud alafoorumis on igal regil oma thread, kuhu kõik oma noted pokkerikliendist copy-pastevad + siis oleks iga limiidi ja toa kohta üks thread lisaks, mis on sticky ja kuhu pannakse regide nimed ja link nende personaalsele teemale.

Pahvak
03.11.10, 00:02
Proovisin kas never bluff a donk reegel ikka veel kehtib. Kehtis küll.
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saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($100)
SB ($197.60)
BB ($71.80)
UTG ($151.95)
UTG+1 ($206.85)
MP1 ($108.90)
Hero (MP2) ($133.05)
CO ($172.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $3, Hero raises to $10, 4 folds, MP1 calls $7

Flop: ($23.10) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($39.10) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets $11, Hero raises to $30, MP1 raises to $90.70 (All-In), Hero calls $60.70

River: ($220.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $220.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
MP1 had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, tens).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: MP1 won $217.50


Valuecheck.
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saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($120.75)
BB ($70.35)
UTG ($126.40)
UTG+1 ($28.50)
MP1 ($111.10)
MP2 ($102.50)
MP3 ($86.75)
CO ($100)
Bluffi pliis (Button) ($100)

Preflop: Bluffi pliis is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
4 folds, MP3 calls $1, CO bets $4.50, Bluffi pliis raises to $14.50, 1 fold, BB calls $13.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($35) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Bluffi pliis checks

Turn: ($35) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $55.85 (All-In), Bluffi pliis calls $55.85

River: ($146.70) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $146.70 | Rake: $3

Results:
Bluffi pliis had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
BB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (full house, Jacks over Kings).
Outcome: BB won $143.70



Kahtlane call, aga olin ees. Shoveja on reg.
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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) ($105.15)
BB ($31.35)
Button ($103.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
Button bets $3, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $9, Button raises to $103.70 (All-In), Hero calls $93.70, BB calls $21.35 (All-In)

Flop: ($238.75) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($238.75) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($238.75) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $238.75 | Rake: $1

Results:
Button had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and tens).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
BB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (full house, Aces over nines).
Outcome: Hero won $144.70, BB won $93.05

Pahvak
04.11.10, 23:43
Setiga on lihtne olla metamees.

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saw flop | saw showdown

MP3 ($115.40)
CO ($33.50)
Button ($51.40)
SB ($56.15)
BB ($100)
Donk (UTG) ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($104.50)
MP2 ($35.15)

Preflop: Donk is UTG with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Donk bets $3, 3 folds, MP3 calls $3, 4 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Donk bets $5, MP3 raises to $15, Donk calls $10

Turn: ($37.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Donk bets $23, MP3 calls $23

River: ($83.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Donk bets $59 (All-In), MP3 calls $59

Total pot: $201.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Donk had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (three of a kind, threes).
MP3 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Donk won $198.50

Pahvak
07.11.10, 15:18
Laudades oli räme vaalapoiss. 200bb deep oleme, sest sain talt enne juba 1e stacki. Ta oli vahepeal 800$ peal ja regularid callisid KJ ta vastu all-ine jne.

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UTG+1 ($100)
Hero (MP1) ($208)
MP2 ($217.70)
MP3 ($562.70)
CO ($299.50)
Button ($100)
SB ($100)
BB ($158.50)
UTG ($100)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
2 folds, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, MP3 bets $4.50, 3 folds, BB calls $3.50, Hero raises to $208 (All-In), MP3 calls $203.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($421) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($421) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($421) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $421 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
MP3 had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (high card, King).
Outcome: Hero won $418

Kotkas1000
07.11.10, 15:34
Munadega mehed mõlemad.

low-flow
07.11.10, 16:21
ebanormaalsus :D :D

pastilaa
07.11.10, 17:35
Näm-näm kui maitsev amps!

Pahvak
09.11.10, 15:49
Tahtsin öelda, et kuradi sitt ikka - mul kulub foorumi peale rohkem aega päevas kui mängimise peale. Nüüd tuleb keegi ja ütleb, et kui ma selline tahtejõuetu degen olen, siis kuidas üldse pokkerit biidin. Aga vat biidin ja biidin ka tööd ja kooli selle kõrvalt. Samas kurb kuidagi. :p

pikk28
09.11.10, 18:14
no tubli oled. ma ei biidi tööd ega pokkerit. koolist rääkimata. ainus millega hetkel rahul olen on pere ja selle ümber käiv. hing vähemalt on hetkel rahul. krt samas ikka kripeldab, et nii lohh mikromees ikke veel olen.
sry su post pani mind lihtsalt kribama, võib-olla ei jookse üldse teemassegi. võib-olla jookseb ka.
edu sulle igatahes!

Pahvak
09.11.10, 18:34
Jookseb ikka teemasse ja head lähisuhted on kulda väärt (rohkem kui töö, kool ja pokker imo).

Aga pokkerivaistu arendamiseks soovitan vahelduseks mängida näiteks ~300 odavat ja bankrollile sobivat HUSNG-d (NL50 cash on liiga kallis kooliraha). Ise tunnen, et peale ~500 HUSNG tegemist olin kõvasti parem cashimängija (kuigi HU regularidega suckin siiamaani). Peale seda perioodi riidisin vastaseid ja boarde kõvasti paremini ja leidsin uusi kohti, kust nö raha teha. Enne seda ma teadsin, et riidid on tähtsad, aga selle teadmisega midagi peale ei osanud hakkata. Pluss veel see meeeeletu variatsioonist tingitud tilt, mis mul lõpus HUSNG-dega tuli, aitas kaasa mindseti paranemisele (sest nitringis on variatsioon poisike). ;)

Edu sullegi, pikk!

pikk28
09.11.10, 18:38
vaatan õhtul, kas trios on mõistliku rakega mikro HUSNG. 5-10 eurine siis mõttes.
tänud soovituste eest!

raunsz
09.11.10, 18:46
Respekt kui suudad edukalt pokkerit mängida kooli ja töö kõrvalt !
Vaba aega ka leiad ? GL

pastilaa
09.11.10, 18:50
Kõva mees!

ranka
09.11.10, 18:57
vaatan õhtul, kas trios on mõistliku rakega mikro HUSNG. 5-10 eurine siis mõttes.
tänud soovituste eest!

mängi neid nelja mehe omasid. €5.5 omas maksad 50 senti reiki kahe potentsiaalse mängu eest.

Pahvak
09.11.10, 19:07
Respekt kui suudad edukalt pokkerit mängida kooli ja töö kõrvalt !
Vaba aega ka leiad ? GL

Hehe, tegelikult leian ikka. Mu jutust jäi mulje vist, et ma teen kõike täiskohaga, aga tegelikult ei tee. Sellepärast jõuangi kõike tasapisi kehva volüümiga biitida. Töö on ainult kopa ette visanud, ei paku väga midagi enam ja tegelikult tahakski kooliga rohkem tegeleda (pokkerit ma ei jäta) ja ehk ka doktorantuuri minna. Samas ei tea, milleks see hea on. Et mentaalselt oma ajuga masturbeerida vist ja ise rahul olla, haaa. Aga noh, see plaan on väga ebamäärane.

Pahvak
11.11.10, 19:48
Kõndisin just ja Tartus turu silla peal avanes mulle vaatepilt, mis mõjutab mind elu lõpuni: strippar Marco poseeris palja ülakehaga fotograafile. :\

g00000se
11.11.10, 19:53
Kõndisin just ja Tartus turu silla peal avanes mulle vaatepilt, mis mõjutab mind elu lõpuni: strippar Marco poseeris palja ülakehaga fotograafile. :\

Hahhahaha :D
Jooksid ikka elu ja hinge eest minema??

harryahven
11.11.10, 20:37
üle silla ääre:
http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/pro-wrestling-1a.jpg

rohelinekonn
11.11.10, 21:16
Kõndisin just ja Tartus turu silla peal avanes mulle vaatepilt, mis mõjutab mind elu lõpuni: strippar Marco poseeris palja ülakehaga fotograafile. :\

HA HA HAAA paras :p:p

pastilaa
11.11.10, 21:25
Kõndisin just ja Tartus turu silla peal avanes mulle vaatepilt, mis mõjutab mind elu lõpuni: strippar Marco poseeris kahjuks ainult palja ülakehaga fotograafile. :\

FYP

inward
11.11.10, 21:49
LOL

Päevikusse peab rohkem kirjutama isikliku elu kummalisi seiklusi. Siuke leveldamine hakkab pihta, et õudne :biggrin:

Pahvak
13.11.10, 23:30
Vastas 3bb/100 regular, kes 3betib isegi mu utg avanguid. Overall 3b 5%. Temapoolne mäng on umbes sama vägev kui minu oma.

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saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($100)
Button ($112.30)
SB ($100)
BB ($197.50)
õnnekast (UTG) ($143.70)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($39)

Preflop: õnnekast is UTG with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
õnnekast bets $3, 1 fold, MP2 calls $3, CO raises to $12, 3 folds, õnnekast raises to $26, 1 fold, CO calls $14

Flop: ($56.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
õnnekast checks, CO checks

Turn: ($56.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
õnnekast checks, CO bets $35, õnnekast calls $35

River: ($126.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
õnnekast bets $82.70 (All-In), CO calls $39 (All-In)

Total pot: $204.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
õnnekast had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (full house, threes over Jacks).
CO had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
Outcome: õnnekast won $201.50

Pahvak
15.11.10, 15:25
Okei, mul on viimase 3 kuu ja 66k käe winrate NL100s 7.19bb/100. Kas tegemist on heateriga või võib varsti NL200 proovida?

Peale eelmist posti oli ~5 päeva pärast format ja viimase ~60k käe winrate NL/PL/CAP100 on tibake suurem kui 6bb/100 ehk ma kahtlustan, et mul on viimase 100k käe winrate ~6bb/100. PTR näitab NL100 4bb/100 üle 160k käe (kombineeritud PL/NL/CAP 4.26bb/100). Kõik muutus ilusaks peale seda kui ma enam regularidega HU ei mänginud. Graafikuid ei lisa, sest doomswitchi pole vaja. :heart:

EDIT: Keegi võiks rääkida kuidas NL100st NL200sse FTP-s hüpata on? Olen suur bumhunter (see on kah skill).

Pahvak
18.11.10, 02:11
Ma arvan, et elukutselisel pole viisakas teisele Eesti regile peale suckouti 'ups' öelda või oli tegelikult ka kahju? Vaevalt.

-andres-
18.11.10, 02:53
Polnud mina, aga istun sulle vahetevahel laudadesse järgi, et kiiremini uue laua täis saaks. See on ok?

noname
18.11.10, 02:55
Polnud mina, aga istun sulle vahetevahel laudadesse järgi, et kiiremini uue laua täis saaks. See on ok?

sorry for OT,aga kõrvale istudes tulevad lauad paremini täis,kui eraldi istudes?

Pahvak
18.11.10, 11:27
Polnud mina, aga istun sulle vahetevahel laudadesse järgi, et kiiremini uue laua täis saaks. See on ok?

See on täitsa ok ja suckoudid on ka lubatud, aga eile üle tüki aja ajas see 'ups' tilti. Sorry, et ma sinuga kunagi HU ei mängi. Mu tildipoliitika (+ olematu edge) ei luba. :)


sorry for OT,aga kõrvale istudes tulevad lauad paremini täis,kui eraldi istudes?

Imo on nii, et esimese vastase (2. mängija) saamine võtab kõige kauem aega, siis natuke vähem võtab 3. tüübi lauda lisandumine ja väga tihti tulevad hetkega ka 4.-9.

harryahven
18.11.10, 11:27
järgi ≠ kõrvale

Pahvak
18.11.10, 11:31
järgi ≠ kõrvale

+1. Ja regularist vasakule käele istumine ei ole imo eriti mõtekas, sest vähemalt minu raha tuleb fishidest. Tavaliselt regid istuvad vastu ja fishid istuvad, kus nende lucky seat on.

qbj0hn
18.11.10, 16:39
Pole hullu.
Üks foorumi kasutaja sõimas mind pedeks kui arvas,et ma hittisin midagi ta vastu ja sai raise mult :D

leits
18.11.10, 16:47
mastapupa ajab mind alati tilti oma sry jms lausetega kui ta AK mu KK l2bi nussib .. alati juhtub

inward
18.11.10, 16:51
Tra teid seal nl100s fulltildis päris korralik hunnik ka :biggrin:

Aga jah eestlastel ikka käib omaette meta ja chatsõim. Endalgi see probleemiks.

Potsataja
18.11.10, 16:55
Some kind sex thread ?

masterpuppet
21.11.10, 23:07
mastapupa ajab mind alati tilti oma sry jms lausetega kui ta AK mu KK l2bi nussib .. alati juhtub

No reaalselt ongi kahju ju, kui käsi pole sellisena mõeldud ning sitasti välja kukub eestlase vastu.

Ning alati ei aja, sest ühe korra su vastu ära tõmmanud ja see oli ka BvB.

inward
21.11.10, 23:23
Tra tehke nimekiri, palju siist foorumist mängivad koos nl100 full tildis. Pluss siis lihtsalt eestlased. Põrkumist peaks tugevalt olema :biggrin:

-andres-
21.11.10, 23:23
No reaalselt ongi kahju ju, kui käsi pole sellisena mõeldud ning sitasti välja kukub eestlase vastu.

Ning alati ei aja, sest ühe korra su vastu ära tõmmanud ja see oli ka BvB.

You dirty liar.

masterpuppet
21.11.10, 23:26
You dirty liar.

Oleneb, kas taandad asja rahale või käe hästi mängimisele.

Kui ikka teed sita otsuse, sitas kohas, oled enda peale kuri ning tõmbad veel ära ka, siis on sitt tunne. Eriti veel eestlase vastu.

inward
21.11.10, 23:28
Rage
Low-flow
Andres
Mastablazta
Leits
Inward

rohkem ei tule kinnise peage meelde, aga tundub palju rohkem olevat.

taipupole
21.11.10, 23:28
Oleneb, kas taandad asja rahale või käe hästi mängimisele.

Kui ikka teed sita otsuse, sitas kohas, oled enda peale kuri ning tõmbad veel ära ka, siis on sitt tunne. Eriti veel eestlase vastu.

Vedas, said nädala lollima jutu tiitli veel endale. AKga BvB ja sitt otsus. Pole paha.

masterpuppet
21.11.10, 23:31
Vedas, said nädala lollima jutu tiitli veel endale. AKga BvB ja sitt otsus. Pole paha.

Leitsi vastu... ::) Edasi rohkem kommenteerima ei hakka.

low-flow
22.11.10, 01:02
Rage
Low-flow
Andres
Mastablazta
Leits
Inward

rohkem ei tule kinnise peage meelde, aga tundub palju rohkem olevat.

vapsik aka Metsapull on ka ennast seal näitama hakanud. Mõtlesingi paar päeva, et kes see on, kuidagi tuttav nick kusagilt ja täna foorum andis vastuse.

Ja veel on kindlasti 3-4 eestlasest head regulari, kelle sn ei pane foorumi nimega kokku. Esimesena meenub Lahekutt, kindlalt agronoomikumi lõpetanud, winrate oli ka mehine, kui viimati teda PTR-ist vaatasin.

Üldiselt vastikult kitsas on seal NL100-s. Kohe tahaks rõõmu välja näidata, kui ikka kuuled, et mõni regular läheb jälle "puhkusele" või "pausile", misiganes põhjustel, leiba vaja teenida ju...

inward
22.11.10, 01:07
Ei ma tean, neid oli päris palju. Sp te leveldateki leitsi teemas, ilma et kaasa tunneks :biggrin:

Pahvak
22.11.10, 12:02
Neid eestlasi on tegelikult väga palju, keda fooruminimedega kokku ei pane. Aga väga kitsas mu arust seal veel pole, kuna fishe on väga palju. Nii palju, et vahel kardan, et äkki bumhuntimata ei biidigi limiiti. :(

EDIT: Üks halb asi eestlastega on see, et osad kipuvad väga isiklikuks minema. Mõtlevad vist stiilis, et oh ma tean küll sind foorumist ja järelikult oskan su vastu mängida.

nomerlot
22.11.10, 12:14
EDIT: Üks halb asi eestlastega on see, et osad kipuvad väga isiklikuks minema. Mõtlevad vist stiilis, et oh ma tean küll sind foorumist ja järelikult oskan su vastu mängida.

Minu meelest ka on selline nähtus täiesti olemas, et hakatakse metat hullult panema.
Aga nagu ranka kusagil siin kirjutas, pidid sellised eestlased hea kasum olema - tead, et hullult agroks minnakse ja korjad muudkui raha:)

flipmachine
22.11.10, 12:15
Üks halb asi eestlastega on see, et osad kipuvad väga isiklikuks minema. Mõtlevad vist stiilis, et oh ma tean küll sind foorumist ja järelikult oskan su vastu mängida.

heads up 4 rolls ? :cool:

Tervitusi siis Helena sünnipäevalt ;)

Pahvak
22.11.10, 12:22
Jep, täitsa tõsi. Ise olen selle metatamisega välismaa regidele küll mõne BI kinkinud. Mitte, et ma seda väga tihti teeks.

Peab vist ühte asja veel enda mängimise juures muutma. Nimelt kui eelmine päev väljas käia ja kolmeni napsutada, siis järgmine päev laudadesse ei istu. Kuidagi väga emotsionaalseks kisub ära. Eriti HU-s, kus kinkisin ühele 50bb fishile vist ca 200bb ära - hittis nagu loom 3b potis, aga need käed olid tegelikult väga folditavad.

Üks põnev käsi kah. Vastane suhteliselt tundmatu reg, aga tuleb välja, et ei taha väga uskuda. :)


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saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($112.50)
SB ($86.50)
Salakaval (BB) ($102.30)

Preflop: Salakaval is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
Button bets $3, 1 fold, Salakaval calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Salakaval checks, Button bets $4, Salakaval calls $4

Turn: ($14.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Salakaval checks, Button bets $10, Salakaval raises to $30, Button calls $20

River: ($74.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Salakaval bets $65.30 (All-In), Button calls $65.30

Total pot: $205.10 | Rake: $1

Results:
Button had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, Queens).
Salakaval had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: Salakaval won $204.10

Pahvak
22.11.10, 12:25
heads up 4 rolls ? :cool:

Tervitusi siis Helena sünnipäevalt ;)

No ty. :biggrin: Aga tervitused sullegi. Eelmises postis just mainisin, kuidas sünnipäev järgmisel päeval pokkeris kätte maksis. -600$ päev. :)

-andres-
22.11.10, 12:39
No ty. :biggrin: Aga tervitused sullegi. Eelmises postis just mainisin, kuidas sünnipäev järgmisel päeval pokkeris kätte maksis. -600$ päev. :)

Ma poleks öelnud, PTR enam ei räägi sellest.

Pahvak
22.11.10, 12:46
Ma poleks öelnud, PTR enam ei räägi sellest.

Damn, aga pool sellest oli nagunii PS's ja selle on PTR ära märkinud.

nikitheone
22.11.10, 14:02
Rage
Low-flow
Andres
Mastablazta
Leits
Inward

rohkem ei tule kinnise peage meelde, aga tundub palju rohkem olevat.

lol, wut? sa oled nl100s inward?

inward
22.11.10, 16:24
Level obv :D

Pahvak
22.11.10, 20:50
Kunagi oli siin teema, et kuidas saada quadsiga valuet.

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MP2 ($50)
MP3 ($82.35)
CO ($127.10)
Button ($65.20)
Hero (SB) ($107.95)
BB ($100)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($101.50)
MP1 ($100)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
6 folds, Button calls $1, Hero bets $4, 1 fold, Button calls $3

Flop: ($9) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button raises to $8, Hero raises to $12, Button calls $4

Turn: ($33) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button calls $14

River: ($61) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $38.50, Button calls $35.20 (All-In)

Total pot: $131.40 | Rake: $3

pastilaa
22.11.10, 21:17
http://studioforma.lv/images/movies/labas_rokas.s.jpg

Pahvak
30.11.10, 11:46
Tahaks teada, kas ma sain max-value kätte või võiks teisiti mängida? Vastaseks osav mahacallija.

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saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($27.50)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($345.65)
MP2 ($100)
MP3 ($100)
CO ($155.30)
fat value (Button) ($100)
SB ($48.85)
BB ($104.15)

Preflop: fat value is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $2, 3 folds, fat value raises to $100 (All-In), 2 folds, MP1 calls $98

Flop: ($201.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($201.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($201.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $201.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
fat value had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
MP1 had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, nines and sixes).
Outcome: MP1 won $198.50

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saw flop | saw showdown

fat value (MP2) ($100)
CO ($101)
Button ($45.50)
SB ($107.50)
BB ($198.50)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($40.95)
MP1 ($115.90)

Preflop: fat value is MP2 with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
3 folds, fat value bets $3, 2 folds, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, fat value raises to $100 (All-In), SB calls $90

Flop: ($201) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($201) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($201) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $201 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, sixes).
fat value had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: fat value won $198

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saw flop | saw showdown

cooler (UTG) ($104.05)
UTG+1 ($99)
MP1 ($47)
MP2 ($103.50)
CO ($100)
Button ($40.95)
SB ($99)
BB ($117.40)

Preflop: cooler is UTG with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
cooler bets $3, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $5, 4 folds, cooler raises to $104.05 (All-In), MP2 calls $98.50 (All-In)

Flop: ($208.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($208.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($208.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $208.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
cooler had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, tens).
MP2 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: MP2 won $205.50

alaska
30.11.10, 17:03
Mulle ei meeldi su betsizing kehes viimases käes, sa annad talle liiga hea oddsid flop ära vaadata, ma avaks 95bb teises ja 100bb kolmandas ja vist calliks shove, kui ta just väga nit ei ole.

runnar
01.12.10, 00:35
Ma arvan, et elukutselisel pole viisakas teisele Eesti regile peale suckouti 'ups' öelda või oli tegelikult ka kahju? Vaevalt.
see võisin vist mina olla, ajaloost otsisin, äkki oli QQvsKK preflop allin ja flopis QQx, midagi ebaviisakat obv ei mõelnud, õigupoolest ei mõelnudki midagi

Pahvak
01.12.10, 00:40
see võisin vist mina olla, ajaloost otsisin, äkki oli QQvsKK preflop allin ja flopis QQx, midagi ebaviisakat obv ei mõelnud, õigupoolest ei mõelnudki midagi

Olid jah, aga pole hullu. Olin sessi lõpus veidi väsinud ja siis on tilt kerge tulema ja chati on nii lihtne isiklikult võtta.

Pahvak
01.12.10, 16:04
Veits nerdy teema, aga vaadake kui elegantselt võib suurt hulka andmeid visualiseerida. Minul igatahes oli küll väga põnev ja 90% youtube videotest ma tavaliselt lõpuni ei vaata.

jbkSRLYSojo

low-flow
01.12.10, 17:15
Väga lahe, andmeanalüüs ja R tulid kohe meelde. :D

Pahvak
01.12.10, 17:35
Väga lahe, andmeanalüüs ja R tulid kohe meelde. :D

R'i kasutajate blogist (R Bloggers) ma selle leidsingi. :)

g00000se
01.12.10, 17:52
Edu NL200s :)

Pahvak
01.12.10, 18:19
Edu NL200s :)

Tänud, aga tegelikult oli asi nii, et enda arust oli hoopis NL100 lobby lahti ja siis mõtlesin, et ah mis seal ikka teen 1 laua NL200 kah, sest hea laud oli ja stackisin fishi ära ka. Eks nädalavahetusel ilmselt proovin veel. Kuidas endal NL200?

g00000se
01.12.10, 18:32
Hetkel pühendungi ainult NL200 peale. Eks ole näha kuidas läheb. Mendi winrate mul pole, see on selge:D

Pahvak
01.12.10, 18:46
Hetkel pühendungi ainult NL200 peale. Eks ole näha kuidas läheb. Mendi winrate mul pole, see on selge:D

Vaatasin, et ainult 4 lauda korraga. Ei jagu rohkem? :P

variatsioon
01.12.10, 18:46
krt tahaks ka NL200s grindida.

g00000se
01.12.10, 18:56
Vaatasin, et ainult 4 lauda korraga. Ei jagu rohkem? :P

Pole rohkem :D Õhtuti läheb ikka nii palju, kui on :D

E: A variatsioon ma olen ju näinud sind NL200s??!!

variatsioon
01.12.10, 19:20
jp aga hetkel jälle bankroll liiga väike et seal grinidida.

nomerlot
02.12.10, 09:51
väga huvitav statsivideo, tnx

Pahvak
03.12.10, 16:50
Hea post mental coachilt Jared Tendlerilt.


The reason I've found most players want to remove emotion from poker is because emotion is thought to be the real problem. For you the stress/emotion that happens when running bad is clearly a major issue, but the important question is what's producing the emotion?

Emotion is produced from two places - the mind and the unconscious. At the mental level for example you might get pissed off because you're letting emotion get to you, or become fearful because you're aware that your anxious. The other and primary place emotion is produced happens when unconscious beliefs come in contact with a reality that challenges those beliefs. Players who struggle when running bad often struggle because it seems unfair, because they hate losing, because they lose confidence, because they belief they're in more control of the game than they think or wish.

To remove emotion produced at the unconscious level happens when you resolve the flaw in these beliefs. If you were in an argument with a friend, let's say they did something stupid when they were drunk that really pissed you off. The anger you feel towards them would go away after you came to an understanding, or after he apologized. In whatever way the conflict is resolved, once it is, you're no longer angry. The negative emotion is gone and positive emotion returns.

What this suggests is that emotion then is reflective of issues that exist in the unconscious. Since by definition the unconscious is unconscious, we can only deduce what flaws exist down there by understanding the information emotion brings to the surface. Emotion is never the problem, emotion it's the messenger. The problem is that for many many players and people, that message needs to be translated. It might as well be a foreign language.

If you want to remove the emotion that happens when running bad, start by understanding more about why running bad is a problem for you (A few questions to get you thinking). What thoughts comes to mind when the pressure is at it's worst, what do you wish for, does it feel unfair - if so why? Do you question your game, what questions come to mind? Then as you build more knowledge, you can work towards resolving the underlying problem/flaw. If you want feedback on what you find, I'm happy to act as your interpreter - since it's not always obvious.

One more thing, you don't want to remove emotion by become robotic or just blocking emotion out by sheer force - doing so means you can also take out the positive emotion, and that includes motivation.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/26/psychology/how-do-we-remove-emotion-poker-831411/

Pahvak
11.12.10, 23:54
Teil on ka nii, et kui nt. 2 päeva pole mänginud, siis multitablemine ei tule välja ja intuitsioon on jube kehv?

leits
11.12.10, 23:56
Teil on ka nii, et kui nt. 2 päeva pole mänginud, siis multitablemine ei tule välja ja intuitsioon on jube kehv?

mul peale suuremaid joomisi nii ja peale 3-4 p2evaseid pause .. 10 lauda tundub super fckinf fast isegi tableninjaga

Pahvak
12.12.10, 00:01
mul peale suuremaid joomisi nii ja peale 3-4 p2evaseid pause .. 10 lauda tundub super fckinf fast isegi tableninjaga

Täpselt. Timebank jooksis täna kogu aeg tyhjaks ja esimene sess jäi -4BI. Aga huvitav, et see multitablemise skill nii vähese ajaga ära kaob. :P

Pahvak
12.12.10, 01:25
Eelmise jutu jätkuks. Selle käe keerasin esimese sessiga nii perse kui perse arvestades infot, mis mul tema kohta oli. :\


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-FullTilt.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($53)
MP2 ($100)
MP3 ($227.45)
Hero (CO) ($203.65)
Button ($100)
SB ($98.65)
BB ($136.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG bets $3, 3 folds, MP3 calls $3, Hero raises to $13, 1 fold, SB calls $12.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $10

Flop: ($43) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, MP3 bets $25, Hero calls $25, 1 fold

Turn: ($93) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP3 bets $60, Hero raises to $165.65 (All-In), MP3 calls $105.65

River: ($424.30) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $424.30 | Rake: $3

Results below:
MP3 had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, sevens).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: MP3 won $421.30

Hullapple
12.12.10, 01:30
Kas tegu on regulariga?

Kui saladus pole siis mis selle regulari screenname on kellele setiga dongata meeldib.

Pahvak
12.12.10, 01:35
Kas tegu on regulariga?

Kui saladus pole siis mis selle regulari screenname on kellele setiga dongata meeldib.

xadefaxxPOKERR_FAACExpuoxx. Mitte just kõige parem regular mu arust. Väga floaditav ja annab poti kergelt ära.

Pahvak
13.12.10, 16:05
Blogile saab ligi allolevalt lingilt.
http://foorum.pokkeriprod.com/blog.php/321-Pahvak

-andres-
23.03.11, 23:05
Tuld!

qbj0hn
24.03.11, 15:34
Teil on ka nii, et kui nt. 2 päeva pole mänginud, siis multitablemine ei tule välja ja intuitsioon on jube kehv?
Suht vana post mida quoteda,aga...
Endal on täpselt samamoodi.Tegin 3 päeva pausi,eile võtsin 12 lauda ette ja jooksin timebanki tühjaks igalpool.Lõpuks lasin ainult 6 korraga ja oli ok.
Täna võtan siiamaani veel hoogu,et laudadesse maha istuda.

Pahvak
24.03.11, 19:07
Suht vana post mida quoteda,aga...
Endal on täpselt samamoodi.Tegin 3 päeva pausi,eile võtsin 12 lauda ette ja jooksin timebanki tühjaks igalpool.Lõpuks lasin ainult 6 korraga ja oli ok.
Täna võtan siiamaani veel hoogu,et laudadesse maha istuda.

Ma üritan mitte väga pikki vahepause jätta. Üldiselt max 1-2 päeva ja kasvõi 1 sess ülejäänud päevadel kui aega rohkemaks pole.

Pokkerist niipalju, et olen saanud uue lauaarvuti ja 70k käsi NL200s on täis ja ei saa kurta. 100k käte puhul ka graph. :)

Pahvak
25.03.11, 18:48
FML. Juba teine päev see kuu, mis jääb -1000$ peale. Samas 5BI pole midagi erilist, lihtsalt pole varem väga olnud selliseid päevi. Kuu kasum 28k käe peale awesome 700$+rakeback. Overall NL200 71k käe peale on 5.8bb/100. Good times.

Vastane on special retard. Preflop oleks vb võinud suurem olla, aga ei saa väga rohkem panna ka.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-FullTilt.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG+1 ($139.70)
MP1 ($205.80)
MP2 ($203)
Hero (MP3) ($234.25)
CO ($200)
Button ($191)
SB ($218)
BB ($163.70)
UTG ($182)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $43, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $31

Flop: ($89) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $191.25 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $96.70 (All-In)

Turn: ($282.40) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($282.40) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $282.40 | Rake: $3

Results:
UTG+1 had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and eights).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $279.40

Pahvak
25.03.11, 19:19
Headest uudistest niipalju, et täna pakuti mulle pm's võimalust coachida! Allpool on lisatud sooviavaldus.
--------------------
jou
Õpeta mind mängima!
aitäh!

fyte
25.03.11, 19:33
Õnnega koos obv, et siukest võimalust kasutada saad.

Aga gl laudades, palju muidu senini märtsis käsi mängitud on?

Pahvak
26.03.11, 03:27
Aga gl laudades, palju muidu senini märtsis käsi mängitud on?

28k. Mul tavaliselt 500 kätt tunnis ja kuus kindlasti ei mängi üle 80h, sest ei suuda kvaliteetselt mängida.

Pahvak
27.03.11, 15:19
Misclick equity.

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (MP2) ($214.25)
MP3 ($200)
CO ($200)
Button ($137)
SB ($198.95)
BB ($140)
UTG ($915.45)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($223.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $6, 3 folds, SB calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($14) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB raises to $20, Hero raises to $59, SB calls $39

Turn: ($132) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($132) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $149.25 (All-In), SB calls $133.95 (All-In)

Total pot: $399.90 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won $396.90

low-flow
27.03.11, 22:59
Hakkasin mõtlema, et kui ise oleks SB rollis, mis oleks hea postflop liin? Chech/call 3 tänavat (et nõrgematelt kätelt, nagu enamus paarid induced nende arvates valuebette ja tugemate A-de vastu hoida kaotus minimaalne)?

Pahvak
28.03.11, 00:35
Kui fish oskaks käsi lugeda ja ma seda ei teaks, siis ta peaks flopi 3- beti peale foldima. Sinu vastu ei tea, aga ega sa heas seisus ilmselt ei oleks (metat meil pole). Check-call jah. :)

low-flow
28.03.11, 01:21
Ei obv see fishi liin on maksimaalselt retarded. :D Ei pidanudki nii omavahe silmas, lihtsalt hakkasin mõtlema, et kui ma oleksin regulari vastu SB peal, siis kuidas ma seda kätt postflop mängiks ja igas liinis, mis pähe tuli leidus midagi sellist, mis üldse ei meeldi. Iga checkiga tundub nagu kaotaks value ja iga betiga tundub justkui valuetowniks iseenneast, aga ma ei tea, vb mõtlen üle. :P

fyte
28.03.11, 01:26
That's pretty much the reason why you fold it OOP ;D

Pahvak
28.03.11, 20:21
Regularid on spewid. Also 2k$ alla EV (who cares, eks).

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($372.50)
BB ($59)
UTG ($211.65)
UTG+1 ($219.20)
Hero (MP1) ($206)
MP2 ($289)
CO ($200)
Button ($154.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $7, Hero calls $7, MP2 calls $7, 4 folds

Flop: ($24) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $14, Hero raises to $36, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $212.20 (All-In), Hero calls $163 (All-In)

Turn: ($422) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($422) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $422 | Rake: $3

Results:
UTG+1 had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (high card, Ace).
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero won $419


saw flop | saw showdown

MP1 ($73)
MP2 ($245.20)
CO ($206)
Button ($202)
SB ($254)
Hero (BB) ($200)
UTG ($221.45)
UTG+1 ($281.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG bets $6, UTG+1 calls $6, 2 folds, CO calls $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $30, UTG calls $24, 1 fold, CO raises to $206 (All-In), Hero calls $170 (All-In), 1 fold

Flop: ($437) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($437) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($437) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $437 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and eights).
CO had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, eights and twos).
Outcome: Hero won $434

pikk28
28.03.11, 20:27
nice table image :)

Pahvak
29.03.11, 20:50
Täna said selle aasta esimesed 100k kätt täis.

http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/6691/100ke.jpg

-andres-
29.03.11, 21:14
Nice.

2ssapaar
29.03.11, 21:43
ilus graaf. kujutan ette kui mõnus viimased 25k kätt on olnud

hotcocacola
29.03.11, 21:44
Täna said selle aasta esimesed 100k kätt täis.

http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/6691/100ke.jpg

mul üsna sarnane graph kusjuures, alguses ilus tõus ning lõpus suured künkad :(

-andres-
29.03.11, 22:31
Ei ole künkad ju, 10 bi ei ole miski suur swing :/. + winrate ka korralik. Samas mis ma ka tean, ma harjunud miski -10bi päevadega paar korda kuus.

Tarmonator
29.03.11, 23:57
Täna said selle aasta esimesed 100k kätt täis.

http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/6691/100ke.jpg

Tahan ka :S

pikk28
30.03.11, 08:03
me too :D

variatsioon
30.03.11, 12:03
Täna said selle aasta esimesed 100k kätt täis.

http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/6691/100ke.jpg
wp

Pahvak
30.03.11, 12:17
Tyty! Äkki kunagi ka NL400-600 kui mänguga vaeva näha. Elame-näeme. :P

pastilaa
30.03.11, 13:21
Väga kõva areng ikka! Asjalik volüüm samuti. Suured kadedusenoodid siitpoolt igatahes!

g00000se
30.03.11, 14:25
Tahtsin just kirjutada, et kuidagi väike volüüm :D Mitu lauda sa korraga mängid?

Pahvak
30.03.11, 14:43
Tahtsin just kirjutada, et kuidagi väike volüüm :D Mitu lauda sa korraga mängid?

Ei teagi, sest mängin neljas stackis ja laudade arv varieerub sessiti, aga keskmiselt 500 kätt tunnis.

g00000se
30.03.11, 14:47
Ei teagi, sest mängin neljas stackis ja laudade arv varieerub sessiti, aga keskmiselt 500 kätt tunnis.

Okeei, siis ikka neid laudu nati on :)

Pahvak
30.03.11, 14:58
Okeei, siis ikka neid laudu nati on :)

Tundide arv ilmselt väike, aga kui isu pole, siis ei taha punnitada ka. Paar korda kuus viskab pokker väga üle, aga tavaliselt 1-2 päeva pausi aitab. :)

leits
30.03.11, 15:09
Tundide arv ilmselt väike, aga kui isu pole, siis ei taha punnitada ka. Paar korda kuus viskab pokker väga üle, aga tavaliselt 1-2 päeva pausi aitab. :)

Ma kuuendal päeval pausil ja pole tunnet tasgasi .. mõtlesin 2kki uuel kuul uue hooaga :D

Pahvak
30.03.11, 22:15
See kuu jääb +2k$, sellest 650$ on rb. Avasin alexandri ja nüüd maatrikstuletisi võtma.

http://www.freewebs.com/runescapehurray/1%20nerd.jpg

Graafik on ilus, eks? Ei saa salata, et enda kehva mängu on seal omajagu.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9721/26566177.jpg

low-flow
31.03.11, 00:03
Woah, sa suudad samal ajal juua ja matat teha? :O Mad skills! :O Mu aju vajutab pärast esimest kraadiga joogi sõõmu insta shut down ja midagi kasulikku selle päeval enam tehtud ei saa. :P

Pahvak
31.03.11, 00:13
Woah, sa suudad samal ajal juua ja matat teha? :O Mad skills! :O Mu aju vajutab pärast esimest kraadiga joogi sõõmu insta shut down ja midagi kasulikku selle päeval enam tehtud ei saa. :P

Mõnikord suudan kui asi piisavalt lihtne või selline tehniline jamamine. Täna jäi asi suht keskpäraseks ja tundub, et midagi on ikka valesti ka (aju shutdown tuli mul ka). :P

inward
31.03.11, 00:21
Väga ilus astumine üles. Mis eriala õpid muidu ülikoolis ?

Pahvak
31.03.11, 00:36
Matemaatilist statistikat.

KristjanRawk
31.03.11, 09:02
Endal oli see aine ülikoolis, kohati ei saanud ikka mitte midagi aru, aga kui aine lõputööd tegin siis hakkas asi üha loogilisem tunduma. :D

Pahvak
31.03.11, 11:31
Minu puhul on see eriala nimi, mitte ühe aine nimi. :)

Aga ma ei imesta, et nendest nn sissejuhatavatest statistikakursustest raske on aru saada, sest neid õpetatakse nii ebaloogiliselt. Sisuliselt öeldakse, et tee 'nii' ja 'nii', et saada 'seda', aga miks see töötab või mis loogika seal taga on jääb tihti väga ähmaseks. Ma ise nt. ei saanud ka midagi aru enne kui süviti mindi.

Pahvak
02.04.11, 02:50
Kuu algas nagu ikka ja mingi 300$ sai jotsiks peale antud. Varsti harjun ära 1k$ swingidega ja siis üks mindset leak lapitud. Rolli on, pole viga. Üks asi, mis mängimist kohutavalt segab on see, et isegi kui juua 'ainult' 4-pack ja minna magama kell 3 öösel, siis uni on kehv ja homne olek kergelt närviline.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3672/algus.gif

Üks kehv väga veider käsi ka minu poolt (fishi vastu).


saw flop | saw showdown

UTG+1 ($97.35)
MP1 ($200)
MP2 ($229.60)
MP3 ($574.35)
CO ($148.35)
Button ($197)
SB ($219.15)
Hero (BB) ($200)
UTG ($151.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $6, 1 fold, CO calls $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($19) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $19, MP2 calls $19, 1 fold

Turn: ($57) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: ($57) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $175 (All-In), MP2 calls $175

Total pot: $407 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (full house, Kings over Queens).
MP2 had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (full house, Kings over Aces).
Outcome: MP2 won $404

inward
02.04.11, 03:00
Üks asi, mis mängimist kohutavalt segab on see, et isegi kui juua 'ainult' 4-pack ja minna magama kell 3 öösel, siis uni on kehv ja homne olek kergelt närviline.


Sa ei ole ainuke :D, huvitav mis teema sellega on, kõigil seda pole. Pärast tugevat võttu ei saa 2 päeva mängida.

rohelinekonn
02.04.11, 09:41
no probla on et kurat sa üksi selle nelipakki sisse pressisid kutsunud sõbrad külla ja teinud rohkem, siis värin on ikka hommiku aga närviline pole

vapsik
02.04.11, 17:22
Väga kõva areng ikka! Asjalik volüüm samuti. Suured kadedusenoodid siitpoolt igatahes!

+1. aga ma olen palju kadedam inimene kui pastilaa.

Pahvak
09.04.11, 14:49
Hala ka natukene. Mäng on ka veidi kannatada saanud, aga selle vastu aitavad videod.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/566/84039759.jpg

Pahvak
14.04.11, 21:05
Short-term tulemuste üle peab ka rõõmustama. :redface:

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4333/89463770.jpg

Üks wtf käsi ka. Vastane 6bb/100. Callis AK/AQ/KQ/TT pre? Otsustas turni ka floatida? Turni bet on muidugi lol tagantjärgi.


saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($200)
MP1 ($216.50)
Hero (MP2) ($200.80)
CO ($26.45)
Button ($220.20)
SB ($200)
BB ($138.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $6, 1 fold, Button raises to $18, 2 folds, Hero raises to $42, Button calls $24

Flop: ($87) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $42, Button calls $42

Turn: ($171) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button calls $40

River: ($251) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $76.80 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $251 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero didn't show Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (nothing).
Outcome: Hero won $248

ristik
14.04.11, 21:25
rämedalt kadedaks ajavad sellised graafikud. gl !

Pahvak
14.04.11, 21:38
Tänud, aga viimase 40 päeva graafik on EKG ja koledaid graafikuid me ju ei postita...

Pahvak
05.05.11, 10:33
Kuna FTP NL200s on raske laudu kokku saada, siis peab mõtlema, kas minna Pokerstarsi (SN see aasta minu volüümiga ei jõua teha) või proovida 6-maxi õppida. PS'i puhul ei meeldi see, et player pool on suur ja ühtegi note/readi mul ei ole + see FPP süsteem on öak. Mänguformaadi vahetamine ei tundu väga kerge plaan olevat.

Üks käsi ka. Vastane 6bb/100, aga ma nüüd ei saa aru, kas ta floatis 2 tänavat või valuebettis thinilt (kahtlane). Või alles riveril sai aru (checkist, lol?), et on beat ja otsustas käe bluffiks keerata. Tegelikult peaks noted ka panema ja arvamuse, millisena villain mind tema arust näeb, aga ei viitsi.


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saw flop | saw showdown

MP3 ($214)
CO ($200)
Button ($200)
SB ($393)
BB ($269.80)
UTG ($211.55)
Hero (UTG+1) ($228.50)
MP1 ($270.65)
MP2 ($203)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $6, 3 folds, CO calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($15) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10, CO calls $10

Turn: ($35) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $22, CO calls $22

River: ($79) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $58, Hero calls $58

Total pot: $195 | Rake: $3

Results below:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
CO had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won $192

Kahju, et see lugu youtubes nii kehva kvaliteediga on.

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Fortune
05.05.11, 13:30
miks sulle see fpp-de süsteem ei meeldi. Seal saab ju insta raha kontole nende eest osta, palju mugavam kui boonuste vabastamise teema imo.

Pahvak
05.05.11, 13:38
Platinumstari boonuse kurss on kehv ja SN saaks alles järgmine aasta kätte. Niikaua peaksin PS orjama. Samas kui PS's kohe NL200s jooksma saaks, siis jõuaks see aasta ka ära teha, aga ilmselt alustan 100st.

Tigrano
05.05.11, 14:21
Platiniumi kurss peaks olema isegi parem kui FTP rakeback.

Pahvak
05.05.11, 14:28
Olen 108k NL200 ja 36k NL100 käe peale saanud FTP-s see aasta (boonustega) ~3900$. Mingi ~400$ peaks sealt maha võtma, sest black friday boonus oli erakorraline ja year end boonus on poole aasta eest, aga praegu on mai algus. Kui FPP pro lehel veits mängida, siis ei tohiks kuidagi parem tulla. Enne proovisin, aga tulemused juba meelest läinud. :redface:

con
05.05.11, 15:22
Stars võtab vähem raket kui FTP. Õigem on vaadata seda kui palju sa toale üldse kaotad mitte puhtalt RB.

Nt: stars võtab 10% vähem rake kui FTP aga rakeback on full tildi omast 10% väiksem(10% 27st) siis sa võidad ikka tegelikult mingi väikse % starsis.

Näide:
Stars võtab mingilt x-hulgalt 100$ rake, sellest sa saad tagasi 25% e.toale maksad 75$

FTP võtab x-hulgalt stars+10% rake ehk 110$, millest sa saad tagasi +10%(starsi rb) e. 27.5% e. 30.25$ ehk toale maksad 79.75

starsi ja FTP rake
http://www.pokkeriprod.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/FRstat.jpg
http://www.pokkeriprod.com/2010/09/09/kui-palju-me-maksame-raket/


//btw saad äkki seletada kuidas sa seda vpipi kõikumist sõltuvalt samplest arvutad, tahaks teinekord lauas 12tabler fishi nähes targem olla. Päris huvitav( ja vajalik) teema tegelikult.

pastilaa
05.05.11, 15:27
Olen 108k NL200 ja 36k NL100 käe peale saanud FTP-s see aasta (boonustega) ~3900$. Mingi ~400$ peaks sealt maha võtma, sest black friday boonus oli erakorraline ja year end boonus on poole aasta eest, aga praegu on mai algus. Kui FPP pro lehel veits mängida, siis ei tohiks kuidagi parem tulla. Enne proovisin, aga tulemused juba meelest läinud. :redface:

FPP PRO lehel vpp/per hand andmed täiesti metsa minu meelest. Full ringi kohta pakub: $0.25/$0.50 0.162vpp/hnd $0.50/$1 0.286 vpp/hnd. Minul vastavad numbrid tulnud 0,23 ja 0,34. Nende pakutavaid numbreid annab teha vast 4/3 stiili lastes...

noname
05.05.11, 16:32
kas SN puhul ei viitsi siis veits pingutada ja rohkem käsi läbi mängida?
Ise ka plaanin FTP-st minekut teha...

seda lugu vist juba 5x läbi kuulanud järjest:p
veits parem kvaliteet
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Ints
05.05.11, 16:32
Kuidas sa enda vpp välja arvutasid ?

pastilaa
05.05.11, 16:46
Kuidas sa enda vpp välja arvutasid ?

PT3 jaoks võimalik selline stat repositoryst tõmmata (oluline vaadata, et uue VPP arvestuse järgi tehtud stat). Ühe kuu arvutasin manuaalselt välja ka kunagi - tegelikkuses tuli punne isegi tiba rohkem.

ment52
05.05.11, 17:23
Stars võtab vähem raket kui FTP. Õigem on vaadata seda kui palju sa toale üldse kaotad mitte puhtalt RB.

Nt: stars võtab 10% vähem rake kui FTP aga rakeback on full tildi omast 10% väiksem(10% 27st) siis sa võidad ikka tegelikult mingi väikse % starsis.

Näide:
Stars võtab mingilt x-hulgalt 100$ rake, sellest sa saad tagasi 25% e.toale maksad 75$

FTP võtab x-hulgalt stars+10% rake ehk 110$, millest sa saad tagasi +10%(starsi rb) e. 27.5% e. 30.25$ ehk toale maksad 79.75

starsi ja FTP rake
http://www.pokkeriprod.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/FRstat.jpg
http://www.pokkeriprod.com/2010/09/09/kui-palju-me-maksame-raket/


//btw saad äkki seletada kuidas sa seda vpipi kõikumist sõltuvalt samplest arvutad, tahaks teinekord lauas 12tabler fishi nähes targem olla. Päris huvitav( ja vajalik) teema tegelikult.

Afaik ftp ja starsi rake struktuur nl25st kõrgemal on identne ehk siis rake suuruse vahe tuleneb ainult mängude loosenessi arvelt.

g00000se
05.05.11, 17:34
FTPst minema? Praegu lauad kogu aeg suht fishised ju :S Laudu on küll vähe, aga jube palju donke ja pealegi enamus häid regulare olid USAst :) Mitte, et NL100 starsis raskem oleks tho. Kandsin 500 taala starsi, et 200 taalast boonust lahti mängima hakata NL100/NL50. Mängin ilma HUDita hetkel seal, aga ega seal ka lauad paremad pole ju. Laudu on törts rohkem, aga suht full of regis

Kotkas1000
05.05.11, 17:58
Tere tulemast starsi. Omalt poolt lisan, et väga häid rege, keda mina isiklikult kardan on tõesti vähemaks jäänud. See lihtsustab heade laudade leidmist ikka väga palju. NL100 on lausa lillepidu, kalu nii et tapab. Ma ei ole viitsinud kunagi Fpppro-st vaadata, mis ta seal pakub vpp per hand, aga manuaalselt arvutades saan tulemuseks NL200 0,46 VPP per käsi. SN teeb see 1,61 FPP per käsi. 250K Fpp eest saame 4000$ boonuse osta ja selleks peame mängima 155280 kätt. Lisanduvad milestoned ja stellarid.

Muuseas, kas me eile kohtusime laudades?

Pahvak
05.05.11, 18:51
//btw saad äkki seletada kuidas sa seda vpipi kõikumist sõltuvalt samplest arvutad, tahaks teinekord lauas 12tabler fishi nähes targem olla. Päris huvitav( ja vajalik) teema tegelikult.

Pmst selle valemiga
http://www.sigmazone.com/images/Normal_Approx_Binomial_CI.gif
p=vpip/100 näiteks 0.18
z=1.96 või z=2.57 (oleneb kui täpset tõenäosust tahad saada vt z väärtusi: http://www.sigmazone.com/binomial_confidence_interval.htm)
n=vaadeldud käte arv
+/- tähendab, et plussiga saad ülemise piiri ja miinusega alumise.

Vaatasin enda posti üle ka. Ma olen mingi väikese vea teinud, aga point on sama. Ilmselt kasutasin ülemise arvutamisel z=1.96 ja alumise omal 2.57, lol. See valem on muidugi hinnang, aga seda peetakse suhteliselt täpseks isegi siis kui käsi on vähem kui 30.

Valemi point on selles (ehk valem eeldab), et igal mängijal on oma tõeline VPIP ehk mingi % käsi, mida ta mängib. Loomulikult vahepeal mõni areneb loosemaks ja mõni tightimaks, aga vaevalt see juhtub fishide puhul ja paarisaja käe jooksul.


Afaik ftp ja starsi rake struktuur nl25st kõrgemal on identne ehk siis rake suuruse vahe tuleneb ainult mängude loosenessi arvelt.

This. Pigem see näitab, et mängud on tightimad, mis on loogiline, sest võimalik rohkem laudu mängida (regid mängivad rohkem laudu, fish ikka 1-2 tableb) ja VPP süsteem soosib seda samuti.


FTPst minema? Praegu lauad kogu aeg suht fishised ju :S Laudu on küll vähe, aga jube palju donke ja pealegi enamus häid regulare olid USAst :) Mitte, et NL100 starsis raskem oleks tho. Kandsin 500 taala starsi, et 200 taalast boonust lahti mängima hakata NL100/NL50. Mängin ilma HUDita hetkel seal, aga ega seal ka lauad paremad pole ju. Laudu on törts rohkem, aga suht full of regis

Õhtuti isegi saab lauad kokku, aga ma ei viitsi päris öösel ka mängida. Waitingliste samuti ei kasuta. Mitu lauda sa ise NL400 nt. juurde võtta saad? 2? :P


Muuseas, kas me eile kohtusime laudades?

Eip. Teen FTP-s boonuse lõpuni ja siis mõtlen alles edasisi plaane.

g00000se
06.05.11, 10:39
oleneb päevast ja kellaajast, aga tavaliselt jääb jah 1-3 NL400 lauda, vahel harva jõuab 5ni :(

Pahvak
06.06.11, 22:58
Starsis on võrreldes FTP-ga väga imelikke regulare. Enamus on neist muidugi breakeven. Mõtlesin vahepeal kõik need ägedad käed ülesse panna, aga praegu on ette näidata ainult üks viimasest sessioonist ja see pole kõige parem, sest osad käed ma sellises olukorras foldin. Muidu saidivahetus on üsna edukalt läinud. Hea on see, et NL100 on väga lihtne ja halb on, et NL200s olen omajagu jama suutnud kokku keerata.

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saw flop | saw showdown

MP1 ($223.10)
MP2 ($302.90)
CO ($200)
Hero (Button) ($200)
SB ($201)
BB ($209.15)
UTG ($204)
UTG+1 ($38.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $5, 1 fold, BB raises to $21, 1 fold, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($48) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $28, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($104) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($104) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $151, Hero calls $151 (All-In)

Total pot: $406 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
BB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero won $403


Kangelase PTR.

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Spewmonkey
07.06.11, 00:58
Palju sul selles olukorras käsi on, millega sa callid?

Pahvak
07.06.11, 01:28
Palju sul selles olukorras käsi on, millega sa callid?

Vähe, mis siis?

Spewmonkey
07.06.11, 01:49
Vähe, mis siis?

Ma ei arva lihtsalt, et villaini liin väga imelik/ebaloogiline oleks, muud midagi.

Ahangama
07.06.11, 02:07
"They have nice stats but they run breakeven"

Spewmonkey
07.06.11, 02:13
"Õige" statsi selgeks õppimine on kõige lihtsam asi pokkeris, isegi pepsi sai sellega hakkama.

hotcocacola
07.06.11, 04:56
isegi....lol

Wallo, ole rahulik!

Pahvak
09.06.11, 19:32
Villainil buttonilt 10% 3bet. Näha on, et LAG toidab: http://www.pokertableratings.com/stars-player-search/olijugon


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saw flop | saw showdown

SB (€100)
BB (€100)
UTG (€118.70)
UTG+1 (€107.50)
MP1 (€111.75)
MP2 (€100)
Hero (CO) (€101)
Button (€116)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
4 folds, Hero bets €2, Button raises to €8, 2 folds, Hero raises to €20, Button calls €12

Flop: (€41.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: (€41.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets €18, Button calls €18

River: (€77.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets €63 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: €77.50 | Rake: €2

Results:
Hero didn't show 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (nothing).
Outcome: Hero won €75.50

ranka
10.06.11, 12:39
Sa kätt halvemini ka mängida oskad? :) Pealkiri läheb täkesse.

HINT: kui sa minraised PF siis 22 on clear fold sellise tegelase vastu. Teine variant on shove või call aga mõlemad on meh. 4bet on veel eriti hull. Postflopis repid 22 päris hästi - vedas, et vastane ei viitsinud 'spewida' ja käsi lugeda ning sind 8X-iga maha callida.

EDIT: ja 0.02 PT/BB venna vastu spewiks minna? Milleks? 0.02 PT/BB on pm. fish ja siis mängid fishide vastu samamoodi?

Pahvak
10.06.11, 13:13
Sa kätt halvemini ka mängida oskad? :) Pealkiri läheb täkesse.

HINT: kui sa minraised PF siis 22 on clear fold sellise tegelase vastu. Teine variant on shove või call aga mõlemad on meh. 4bet on veel eriti hull. Postflopis repid 22 päris hästi - vedas, et vastane ei viitsinud 'spewida' ja käsi lugeda ning sind 8X-iga maha callida.

EDIT: ja 0.02 PT/BB venna vastu spewiks minna? Milleks? 0.02 PT/BB on pm. fish ja siis mängid fishide vastu samamoodi?

Okei, on küll spewy käsi ja tegelikult ma ei otsi fullringis kohtasid, kus kedagi 4betida, aga seekord läks nii. Panen enda selgituse ka siia, mida tol hetkel mõtlesin. Sinult ootan shove ja calli kohta kommentaare. Turni ja riveriga ma aga nõustuda ei saa. :)

Fold on muidugi kõige lihtsam ja hea lahendus. Call on mu arust küll väga halb. Käsi ei floppa mitte midagi ja kui floppab seti, siis vastase range on nii lai, et kinni ei maksa ja kuna pot on suhteliselt väike, siis käe pealt maha saamiseks peab talle kõvasti kuuma andma. Shoves ma väga kindel ei ole 100bb stackide juures, tema callingrange crushib meid 60-70% equityga. Teen seda pigem 50bb vendade vastu, kelle mänguplaan koosneb 80% kordadest preflop olukordadest. Miks sulle 4bet ei meeldi? Mulle endale üldiselt 4b light ka ei meeldi, sest inimesed ei foldi nii tihti kui see 4bet strateegia, mis kunagi välja tuli, väidab. Okei, siiski 4betin. Flop on üsna standard - cb callitakse või pannakse otsa. Checkin. Turnis betin vähe, paremate kätega tihti shovetakse ja võin saada foldi. Kui callitakse, siis riveril on mul ilus bet järel. Nad EI calli fullringis 8x käega seda ära.

k2snakalle
10.06.11, 15:04
minu arust on 22 üsna halb light 4beti käsi ikka.

ranka
10.06.11, 15:13
Okei, on küll spewy käsi ja tegelikult ma ei otsi fullringis kohtasid, kus kedagi 4betida, aga seekord läks nii. Panen enda selgituse ka siia, mida tol hetkel mõtlesin. Sinult ootan shove ja calli kohta kommentaare. Turni ja riveriga ma aga nõustuda ei saa. :)

Fold on muidugi kõige lihtsam ja hea lahendus. Call on mu arust küll väga halb. Käsi ei floppa mitte midagi ja kui floppab seti, siis vastase range on nii lai, et kinni ei maksa ja kuna pot on suhteliselt väike, siis käe pealt maha saamiseks peab talle kõvasti kuuma andma. Shoves ma väga kindel ei ole 100bb stackide juures, tema callingrange crushib meid 60-70% equityga. Teen seda pigem 50bb vendade vastu, kelle mänguplaan koosneb 80% kordadest preflop olukordadest. Miks sulle 4bet ei meeldi? Mulle endale üldiselt 4b light ka ei meeldi, sest inimesed ei foldi nii tihti kui see 4bet strateegia, mis kunagi välja tuli, väidab. Okei, siiski 4betin. Flop on üsna standard - cb callitakse või pannakse otsa. Checkin. Turnis betin vähe, paremate kätega tihti shovetakse ja võin saada foldi. Kui callitakse, siis riveril on mul ilus bet järel. Nad EI calli fullringis 8x käega seda ära.

Calli osa selgistasid suht hästi aga ma lisaks siia asjaolu, et ta 3betting range on kole lai. See tähendab, et seti hittimise korral ta ei maka meid piisavalt tihti välja ja kui me setile pihta ei saa peame enamus floppe check-foldima (v.a. flopid 345 vms flopid) aga neid juhtub haruharva.

Nagu ma ütlesin shove on MEH (meh = halb). 3x-ides shove muutub paremaks suure 3bettija vastu, sest siis tekib rohkem surnud raha potti 3 (sinu avang) + 9 (eeldatav 3beti suurs) + blaindid. Shovel on suur FE + calli saade (range QQ+, AK) on meil vähemalt 34% equiti - ei ole erityi halb "bluffi" kohta. Kuna me minraiseme siis dead money on vähem ja seetõttu shove muutub halvaks.

Väike 4bet 22-ega on ka halb, sest me oleme OOP. Et teda foldima panna peame tegema suure-suure 4bet ("overbet") aga ajame nii oma risk-reward ratio väga halvaks. Ehk riskima paljuga, et võita vähe. Kui paneme vähe saame tihedamini calli ja mängime postflopis guessing game OOP suures potis. Pm sama jama kui oleks callida ta 3beti. Kui paneme aga palju ja ta otsa shoveb siis ei oska me enam korrektselt mängida, sest vajame 30% equitit ja 22-el on see olemas! Lisaks tegu on 0.02 PT/BB mängijaga, kes teeb lollusi rohkem kui keskmine regular - suuri bluffe, sittu calle (aga mitte sittu folde!) ning jõuamegi olukorda, kus me ei saa midagi teha. Ja muidugi ei ole meil blockereid ja drawime postflopis kahte outi - pointless. Ma teeks selle moovi A2-ega enne kui 22-ega, sest postflop jõudes on meil vähemal 3 ülekaarti outi ja preflop blockerid AJ+ vastu ning TT vastu erinevalt 22-est on meil 30% equtit + ei pea callima ära ta shove preflop või panema end lolli olukorda nagu sa tahad end panna.

Seega minu arvates 22 on selline käsi, kus vastane saab sind 100% ajast exploitida. Samasse gruppi kuuluvad ka 33, 44, 55, 66. On see siis suur leak foldida? Ei, sest pot on väga väikene. Teiseks 22-66 on KÕIGEST 2.3% rangest ja kui see oinas sind peedistab edasi siis sa leiad hooopis paremad kohad +EV 4betiks või PF 3beti calliks.

Sinu vastus küsimusele turnil ja riveril küsin, et palju on su equity potis ja mis on vastase range? Sa võid foldida 8X käe aga saad callitud floativalt QK/AQ tüübilt. Sa oled OOP, sa bluffid selles käes ilma equitita ja täiesti blaindilt väga halva vastase vastu. See käsi on täiesti spew ilma readieta aga readide poolest ei klapiks su 4bet siis v.a. juhul kui vastane 4betib väga palju preflopis.

Pahvak
06.07.11, 02:51
Kuu algus on mõnus.

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Pahvak
12.07.11, 18:53
Enesekindlus täiesti kadunud. Mitte mingit usku enda mängu pole. Kõrgeimast tipust -3k$ alla tuldud ja see kuu -2.6k$. NL200s enamasti. Peab vist NL100sse tagasi kolima.

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