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n2xxi
15.09.10, 02:12
tervist k6igile. vabandan, et puuduvad t2pit2hed, aga ma pole neid vajaduse puudumisel ja nyyd sisseharjumisest 2,5a kasutanud (v.a. ainult erakorraliselt). m6tlesin juba kevadel, et kui yhel hetkel aega piisavalt, siis hakkan netis pokkerit m2ngima. t2psemalt cashgamed ja kohati vahelduseks ka m6ni turniir. siis j6udis aeg selleni, et olles juba pikka aega plaani peas m6lgutanud, tegin full tilti $60 depositi ja hakkasin kunagi vanast ajast peas olnud pokerstrategy oma modifitseeritud taktika j2rgi m2ngima. maandusin NL2-s, aga mu rumal taktika ei t88tanud, paari p2evaga t6mbasin ennast $60 pealt $30 peale. siis otsustasin, et vajan muutust, sest rahast n2dalaga lihtsalt ilma j22da oleks ka p2ris m6ttetu ja igati ebamotiveeriv. lugesin l2bi paar mitte pikka artiklit ja vaatasin video v6i 2 ja alustasin $30 pealt uuesti. seekord l2ks asi libedamalt kui mitte 8elda libedalt. m6ne p2evaga olin alguspunktis tagasi ja ka sealt m88da - ylespoole. ja pokertrackerit kasutasin juba algusest peale, kuigi esialgu mitte t2ie arusaamise juures.
asi l2ks mingi hetkeni ehk kuhugi $130 (sealhulgas vist ka lahtim2ngitud boonus) juurde kuidagi liiga libedalt ja millegi p2rast j2in toppama. langesin natukene, olid v2ga koledad p2evad badbeatide ja lolluste t6ttu, siiski suutsin mitte liiga madalale tagasi koliseda. otsisin uusi lahendusi ja l6puks saavutasin taas edu, l2ksin veidi tightimaks. seej2rel lisandus veel oskus edukalt blinde varastada ja mingil m22ral ka 6igel hetkel bluffimine (seda v6ib ka kuidagi teistmoodi t6lgendada, v6ib-olla lihtsalt raise eelaimdusel, et vastasel on t6en2oliselt veel kehvem k2si kui minul).
eesm2rk oli j6uda $150-ni enne NL5-e kolimist. ettevaatlik pyyan selles m6ttes olla, et kaugemad eesm2rgid kindlamalt k2tte tuleks. $140 juures passisin veel paar p2eva, lihtsalt yles-alla paari dollari ymbes tiirutasin seal. siiski, kindel oli, et kohe-kohe sinna j6uan. tuligi $150 ja $160 ka ootamatult enne kui j6udsin selle hetke viimase NL2 seansi l6petada.
nyyd olen 2 p2eva vaikselt NL5 m2nginud, v2hem laudu kui NL2 esialgu (NL2 m2ngisin alguses, 2, siis 4, siis 6 ja l6puks kuni 10). m2ngin 5-6 lauda NL5, rahulikult, kasutan oma v6imalusi ja yritan lollusi mitte teha, kuigi seda tuleb ikka kurjalt palju ette ja siis saan pahaaimamatult iseenda k2est agressiivse facepalmi.
kirjutan seda teksti siia selleks, et pyyda parandada oma vigu (ma arvan, et neid rohkem kui ette kujutada v6ib millegi p2rast ja tuleb hakata n2id v2ltima), postitada m6ned huvitavad k2ed ja yhtlasi, et omaenda progressi hiljem k6rvalt vaadata.
t2nud abistamast ja kui siiamaani midagi valesti tegin, siis palun parandage mind.
praegu on pea veidi koos, nii et homme postitan graafikud, statid ja ehk paar k2tt, millega iga sessioon kokku ei puutu.

n2xxi
15.09.10, 02:15
aa, siiski 1 k2si, mis t6estab seda, et slowplay nii madalas limiidis on lollus...ometi olin piisavalt loll, et seda yritada.

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UTG+1 ($4.84)
MP1 ($1.75)
MP2 ($5.15)
CO ($5)
Button ($1.69)
SB ($3.56)
Hero (BB) ($5)
UTG ($5.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 5 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.12) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.05, Hero calls $0.05

Turn: ($0.22) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20

River: ($0.62) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, UTG+1 raises to $0.90, Hero folds

Total pot: $1.32 | Rake: $0.08

SALSABOY
15.09.10, 02:26
Tere ja edu sulle.

NL5 mängu võid väga lihtsalt alistada. Algsed teadmised sellest milliseid käsi mängida ja kuidas blinde varastada viivad sind läbi järgmisestki limiidist. Mina ise soovitaksin mängida väga nitist mängu. (Minuarust isegi suited-connectorite limpimine peale teisi limpinud mängijaid on raha minema viskamine. Mängi käsi, millega on võimalik saada suuri paare, tugeva kickeriga.) Avad ennast rohkem hilisest positsioonist. Open-limpida ei soovita. Blinde varastad niikaua kuni poisid sulle sedal lubavad. Tugevalt flopanud käega lihtsalt bet/bet/bet. Slowplay on raha lauda jätmine üldiselt. Turni c/r on vastase poolt üldiselt väga tugev käsi.

ristik
15.09.10, 02:30
laud on siin päris kõvasti drawine, nii et kindel re-raise. Igaljuhul palju edu ja ilusat luckboxi ;)

n2xxi
15.09.10, 02:40
viimasel ajal olen m2nginud keskmisi ja suuremaid suited connectoreid ainult hiliselt positsioonilt kui on 0 v6i 1 limper ja sel juhul mitte limpinud, vaid 3-4BB raisega ja kokkuv6ttes on see siiamaani edu toonud v6i v2hemalt break-even.
vahepeal oli probleem JJ, QQ ja yldse piltide m2ngimisega madalate kaartidega flopil, aga nyyd on agressiivsusega see ka kuidagi lahenenud. eks n2eb kui kauaks.
postitatud k2e puhul oli rumal loota, et vastasel 2kki mingid k6rged, floppi mittepuutuvad kaardid, sest vastasel juhul oleks see vana eelneva m2ngu alusel kindlasti preflopis raisenud. mittem6tlematu minust.

n2xxi
15.09.10, 17:11
siin siis minu senine graafik. pole midagi erilist, aga v2hemalt positiivne.
http://i55.tinypic.com/kdmm11.jpg

edit: tegelikult NL5 hakkas vist tiba hiljem kui seal m2rgitud

ja siin senised statid (need ei kajasta ehk eriti t2pselt minu praegust stiili, vaid virvarri, millest seni l2bi olen tulnud).
http://i51.tinypic.com/msys5z.jpg

KristjanRawk
15.09.10, 17:40
ära limbi niipalju preflop, raise käsi mida mängida tahad.

n2xxi
15.09.10, 17:56
see muutus on toimunud juba, parandatud. aga t2nan siiski.

n2xxi
06.10.10, 02:06
pole mitte midagi kirjutada olnud. ei liigu edasi ega tagasi. postitan oma uue graafiku, mis hakkab peale veidi p2rast eelmise l6ppu. ma ei tea, mis on valesti, aga saan enamv2hem pooltel kordadel cbetile reraise, mis paneb tihti foldima, kui midagi eriti head ei flopanud. ja populaarsust teiste m2ngijate seas kogub check/reraise v6i minbet/4bet. ma ei m6ista seda muud moodi, kui see, et vaadatakse, et mu cbet on k6rge ja kasutatakse 2ra, aga ikka saan sellega kohati vastu n2ppe. non-sd joon on p2ris masendav. ev joon ka kiita pole...aga mida ma sinna ikka teha saan. kui keegi loeb siit midagi v2lja, 2kki oskate aidata?

http://i56.tinypic.com/23wpnqf.jpg

Konso
06.10.10, 08:00
pole mitte midagi kirjutada olnud. ei liigu edasi ega tagasi. postitan oma uue graafiku, mis hakkab peale veidi p2rast eelmise l6ppu. ma ei tea, mis on valesti, aga saan enamv2hem pooltel kordadel cbetile reraise, mis paneb tihti foldima, kui midagi eriti head ei flopanud. ja populaarsust teiste m2ngijate seas kogub check/reraise v6i minbet/4bet. ma ei m6ista seda muud moodi, kui see, et vaadatakse, et mu cbet on k6rge ja kasutatakse 2ra, aga ikka saan sellega kohati vastu n2ppe. non-sd joon on p2ris masendav. ev joon ka kiita pole...aga mida ma sinna ikka teha saan. kui keegi loeb siit midagi v2lja, 2kki oskate aidata?

http://i56.tinypic.com/23wpnqf.jpg

Natuke vähem limpimist ning natuke rohkem tõstmist enne floppi.

kardaanirist
06.10.10, 09:05
vaata ikka cbeti tegemisel boardi tekstuuri ka ja seda, kelle vastu cbetid ja palju cbetid.

Incc
06.10.10, 11:44
ma ei tea, mis on valesti, aga saan enamv2hem pooltel kordadel cbetile reraise, mis paneb tihti foldima, kui midagi eriti head ei flopanud. ja populaarsust teiste m2ngijate seas kogub check/reraise v6i minbet/4bet. ma ei m6ista seda muud moodi, kui see, et vaadatakse, et mu cbet on k6rge ja kasutatakse 2ra, aga ikka saan sellega kohati vastu n2ppe.


Olen NL2 6-max mängija, seal saan enam-vähem hakkama, kuigi mäng on väga swongine. Ent kui proovisin sama taktikat 5Nl-is jooksin sama asja otsa: buttoni bet tõstetakse väga tihti üle, flopi C-bet samuti. Siit ongi küsimus, et mis peaks selline 4-bet range olema? Tean, et see on mängija-situatsioonipõhine, aga ikka närvi ajab kui lihtsalt tuimalt varastatakse, aga millegagi pole vastu hakata...

Edu laudades!

n2xxi
06.10.10, 13:22
peale postitamist hakkas paremini minema, j6hkralt kehvad kaardid olid lihtsalt v2ga pikka aega ja nyyd hakkas asi j2lle etemini jooksma. no ei olnud isegi suurt midagi raiseda, pocketpaare ikka t6stsin seal kus sai ja reraise puhul v2ikseid pocketid foldisin. paartuhat k2tt ei n2inud yhtegi AA-d, paar KK-d ja QQ-d, mis k6rbesid v6i tootsid ainult blinde...limpimine tuleb 2kki sb completemisest? sest seda harrastan igasuguste suited kaartide puhul peaaegu kui limpereid on. ja cbeti check/reraised tehakse tihti just sellistel hetkedel, kus endal on n2iteks AQ, AJ, AT, KQ jne ja flop n2iteks t2itsa tuim 2 r2balat ja 1 pilt ja siis ei oska suurt midagi ette v6tta...yritan tulevikus paar n2idet tuua.

http://i56.tinypic.com/1znvl9j.jpg

kardaanirist
06.10.10, 13:58
paar räbalat ja üks pilt (ala K72r) on nagu parim board üldse, kus cbet teha.

n2xxi
06.10.10, 17:45
no ytleme n2iteks et mul on AQ ja flop on K72. (olenevalt positsioonist siis kas mina esimesena cbet v6i vastane check v6i minbet ja mina raise) cbet ligi pot ja saan 3xpot reraise. niti puhul loen v2lja seti v6i AA/AK/KQ/KJ(s)/KT(s) ja viskan yldjuhul foldi kui flushi ei draw. aga ytleme VP 20-30 kahjuks on mystika, mida ta hoida v6ib, seal on AA slowplay (checkib, callib kuni riverini) ka t2iesti tyypiline n2htus NL5-s. sealt suurem VPIP on samuti kahtlane sellisel juhtumil, kuigi kui ta seda mitu korda teeb, siis tegemist idioodiga, kes nii teenida loodab.

ppo
06.10.10, 18:27
http://i56.tinypic.com/1znvl9j.jpg

haha täpselt selline graafik nagu mul esimesed 26k kätt nl10s. see mingi TAGfishi standard vist :D

n2xxi
08.10.10, 11:30
bankroll liigub vaikselt yles. viimastel p2evadel olen pohmakaga p2ris edukalt m2nginud ja nl10 pole enam kaugel.

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Hero (MP2): $5.22
CO: $4.47
BTN: $6.49
SB: $11.55
BB: $7.27
UTG: $5.00
UTG+1: $8.09
UTG+2: $7.32
MP1: $5.12

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP2 with A:club: A:heart:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, 5 folds, MP1 calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.52) 8:diamond: 7:club: A:diamond: (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.35, MP1 calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.22) 9:spade: (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1, MP1 calls $1

River: ($3.22) 6:club: (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $3.22
Hero shows Ac Ah (three of a kind, Aces)
MP1 shows Td As (a straight, Ten high)
MP1 wins $3.01
(Rake: $0.21)


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Hero (MP1): $7.75
MP2: $8.64
CO: $6.49
Fritz Jr: $11.33
BTN: $3.95
SB: $5.24
BB: $8.16
UTG: $3.64
UTG+1: $5.30

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP1 with 9:heart: 9:club:
UTG raises to $0.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.52) 4:diamond: 9:spade: Q:club: (3 players)
UTG bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.50, MP2 folds, UTG calls $0.25

Turn: ($1.52) K:spade: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1

River: ($3.52) J:club: (2 players)
UTG bets $1.99 all in, Hero calls $1.99

Final Pot: $7.50
Hero mucks 9h 9c
UTG shows Th Qh (a straight, King high)
UTG wins $7.00
(Rake: $0.50)


yhes ja samas lauas juhtus samasugune asi 4-5 korda 120 k2e jooksul. teise k2e puhul ju teadsin ka mis tal on l6puks, aga ikka callisin, ei tea miks. 6nneks esimese k2e check teeb rahas selle tasa.

n2xxi
08.10.10, 15:14
t2nane huumor AAga j2tkub. enne t2nast oli muide AA win% 100 viimase 22k k2e kohta. t2na olen juba mitu korda sugeda saanud. viimane n2ide:


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MP2 ($2.50)
CO ($5)
Button ($5)
SB ($4.80)
BB ($2.02)
UTG ($5.21)
Hero (MP1) ($5.07)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
BB bets $2.02 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.07 (All-In), 4 folds

Flop: ($4.16) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($4.16) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.16) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.16 | Rake: $0.27

Results:
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (straight, nine high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $3.89

fyte
09.10.10, 00:37
See 99 käsi on küll väga imelikult mängitud. Ses suhtes et board on üsnagi kuiv (üksnes JT'l on su vastu korralik equity), seega ei ole väga vale callida siin lihtsalt ja seejärel saad turnil raiseda, kui ta betib. Parem (ja ka lollikindlam) variant on korraliku suurusega flopi raise - kusagil 80c peale.

emmimees
09.10.10, 11:30
ˇKas oled ka mujal mänginud ja kuidas võrdled Ft ja teiste tubade NL5? Ise mäletan et oliväga raske hakkama saada kuna kõik olid üliagrod ja 3betti, c-raise tuli igaltpoolt ka niisama "kontrolli" mõttes vms. Nüüd nt 888 NL20 ja paradiis võrreldes FT NL5´ga mulle tundub lol

n2xxi
09.10.10, 22:42
ei ole mujal cashi m2nginud, aga 888s m2ngin vahepeal v2ikseid sng-sid ja need on siiani v2gagi biiditavad olnud, samas mingi 30-40 sng-d umbes ka alles.

n2xxi
10.10.10, 17:33
vahelduseks siis details ja graafik, NL10 peab veel veidi yle $10 ootama, et 30BI oleks:

http://i52.tinypic.com/2r6mrdw.jpg


http://i56.tinypic.com/f03ub.jpg

n2xxi
17.10.10, 13:01
Tervist. Olen nyyd paar p2eva NL10 m2nginud. M2ngu tulemus on puhtalt kellaajast olenenud. Kui korralikult rahapakkujaid ei ole, siis ei taha ka bankroll eriti muutuda. Proovisin yle m6ne aja ka veidi NL5 rush pokerit kahe aknaga, vaikselt nagu tiksus peale seal, aga 3 korda sain pf ai coolereid nagu AAvsQQ ning midagi a la AQ vs AJ ning l6petasin olles umbes 3BI miinuses. Siis tagastas FTP $22 bottidele kaotatud raha, nii et sain selle lihtsalt tagasi. NL10 sain ka l6puks plussi ja enam tagasi vaatama ei hakka :D Ei, kindlalt ei hakka.
Mitu BI NL25 proovimiseks olla v6iks? V2ga enesekindel ma ei ole, pyyan m2ngida suhteliselt kindla peale, viimasel ajal ehk liigagi nitilt.

NL10 graafik siis:

http://i52.tinypic.com/nx9ona.jpg

n2xxi
18.10.10, 01:26
katsetasin t2na nalja p2rast v2ga rumalat taktikat:
888 pokkeris $75 freeroll esiteks. v6tsin 49% PFR range ja tulistasin iga kord selle range kaartidega allini. j6udsin igal juhul rahasse ja sain m6ned sendid, l6pu poole lasin range 40% peale.
siis tegin $5 6-man sng 30% PFR rangega ja v6itsin. teised pahandasid kyll, aga mis teha. n2iteks A5s v6itsin AA vastu flopis saadud kolmikuga. see kaardijagamissysteem pooldab seal sellise rangega m2ngijaid. jah, nii vist ongi.

Mrt1989
18.10.10, 05:41
Rigged koht :D

n2xxi
19.10.10, 21:08
vastane 40 k2e peale VP 50 / PR 15..

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MP2 ($9.38)
CO ($14.09)
Button ($11.66)
SB ($12.57)
Hero (BB) ($10.54)
UTG ($9.85)
UTG+1 ($3.10)
MP1 ($10.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
6 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($3.60) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

River: ($7.60) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4

Total pot: $15.60 | Rake: $1.04

Results below:
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, threes).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Kings and threes).
Outcome: SB won $14.56


ja siin sama tyyp 20 k2tt hiljem samade statidega:


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UTG ($9.75)
UTG+1 ($13.90)
MP1 ($11.91)
MP2 ($12.98)
Hero (MP3) ($13.17)
CO ($9.85)
Button ($15.28)
SB ($3.85)
BB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($1.15) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP2 bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.65) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50

River: ($5.65) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $4, MP2 raises to $8, Hero calls $4

Total pot: $21.65 | Rake: $1.44

Results below:
MP2 had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and fives).
Outcome: MP2 won $20.21


ja mu raha l2heb heategevuseks ringlusse lauas lihtsalt...

Mrt1989
19.10.10, 21:16
2 käsi ma oleks 3 bettinud preflop kuskil 1.55
Turni bet on ka väike.

H2O
24.10.10, 09:06
Käsi nr2. Wtf 3bet pref, 3bet flop. Mis slowplay siin NL10-es käib?

n2xxi
25.10.10, 02:38
palun laduge valed k2igud julgelt ette. ebameeldiv toppamine toimub praegu...

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CO ($10.04)
Button ($14.42)
SB ($8.34)
Hero (BB) ($12.13)
UTG ($6.03)
UTG+1 ($9.15)
MP1 ($4.44)
MP2 ($10.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 bets $0.30, 2 folds, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.60, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.25) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.90, MP1 calls $1.90

Turn: ($6.05) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6.05, MP1 calls $1.64 (All-In)

River: ($9.33) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $9.33 | Rake: $0.62

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
MP1 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: MP1 won $8.71


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UTG ($8.76)
UTG+1 ($17.48)
MP1 ($12.91)
MP2 ($1.28)
MP3 ($9.48)
CO ($6.30)
Button ($3.85)
SB ($22.11)
Hero (BB) ($12.57)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 5 folds, Button bets $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1, 2 folds

Turn: ($3.20) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.20, UTG calls $3.20

River: ($9.60) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8.07 (All-In), UTG calls $4.26 (All-In)

Total pot: $18.12 | Rake: $1.20

Results below:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (straight, Queen high).
UTG had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: UTG won $16.92


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CO ($10)
Button ($9.55)
Hero (SB) ($16.39)
BB ($4.97)
UTG ($3.85)
MP1 ($11)
MP2 ($7.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
5 folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.40) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BB raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.30, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($3) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.70, BB raises to $3.47 (All-In), Hero calls $0.77

River: ($9.94) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $9.94 | Rake: $0.66

Results below:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Aces and tens).
BB had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (straight, eight high).
Outcome: BB won $9.28

bi0hazard
25.10.10, 16:54
Esimene ja kolmas käsi on toorelt riverisse ära väänatud ja küsid, mis valesti tegid? Leveldad ve



KÄSI 1. Pre paneks 1,2. edasi solid
KÄSI 2 viskaks ise mucki, kui callida, siis flop standard, turnil bet ja foldiks reraisele ja river chk fold imo
KÄSI 3 Mis minraised need flopis on, top two, keevitaks kohe 1,8-2,0 peale ja edasi hästi.

fyte
25.10.10, 17:31
bi0 ütles juba enamuse, aga 3ndas käes on täiesti mõistetematu sb limp kui sinuni on folditud.. 100% ajast stealid ju sellise käega.

n2xxi
28.10.10, 06:53
villain 50/2. yritasin slowplayga fishilt v2hekegi v2lja punnida kuna arvasin arvasin ennast nutsi omavat. slowplay selle p2rast et ei ole suutnud m6nda aega valuet v2lja pigistada ja katsetan erinevaid meetodeid. aga mida arvata riveri AI-st???


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Button ($8.52)
SB ($4.44)
BB ($7.75)
UTG ($7.40)
UTG+1 ($8.75)
MP1 ($7.90)
MP2 ($2.05)
Hero (MP3) ($11.41)
CO ($8.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.05) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.65) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.40, UTG calls $0.40

River: ($2.45) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $6.30 (All-In), Hero ???


ja siin vastane 35/15-


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UTG+1 ($2.87)
MP1 ($6.97)
MP2 ($16.63)
MP3 ($9.61)
Hero (CO) ($18.20)
Button ($9.75)
SB ($12.65)
BB ($8.04)
UTG ($11.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 4 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.75) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Turn: ($1.95) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.95) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $1.95, Hero raises to $5.25, UTG raises to $8.55, Hero ???



v6in 8elda seda et m6lemad korrad oli vastasel TT.......

H2O
28.10.10, 07:13
villain 50/2. yritasin slowplayga fishilt v2hekegi v2lja punnida kuna arvasin arvasin ennast nutsi omavat. slowplay selle p2rast et ei ole suutnud m6nda aega valuet v2lja pigistada ja katsetan erinevaid meetodeid. aga mida arvata riveri AI-st???


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Button ($8.52)
SB ($4.44)
BB ($7.75)
UTG ($7.40)
UTG+1 ($8.75)
MP1 ($7.90)
MP2 ($2.05)
Hero (MP3) ($11.41)
CO ($8.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.05) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.65) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.40, UTG calls $0.40

River: ($2.45) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $6.30 (All-In), Hero ???

Minu arust oleks call õige. Slowplay on viga minu arust, eriti fishi vastu.

n2xxi
28.10.10, 07:40
tunnistan t2iesti vabalt, et see on viga, mille orki olen varemgi sattunud, aga viimasel ajal on mul selline tunne nagu m2ngiks avatud k2tega. viimase 50 AA ja KK k2ega olen yhe korra vastase allini saanud ja v6itnud. standard on blindide korjamine v6i h2vimine. nende k2tega olen hetkel miinuses. tegin l2bi -8,5BI downswingi ja yritan uuesti jalule saada, aga satun pidevalt mingite imelikkude k2ikude ohvriks - kaotan stacki, tilberdan j2lle tagasi stealide ja v2ikeste potidega - ja nii j2lle ja j2lle. vaatasin m6ningaid videosi, k6ik tundub suhteliselt lihtne, aga kui VPIP50 netinegreanud pidevalt oma stattidevastaselt 2ra karistavad, muutub asi kuidagi hapuks...

H2O
28.10.10, 08:43
tunnistan t2iesti vabalt, et see on viga, mille orki olen varemgi sattunud, aga viimasel ajal on mul selline tunne nagu m2ngiks avatud k2tega. viimase 50 AA ja KK k2ega olen yhe korra vastase allini saanud ja v6itnud. standard on blindide korjamine v6i h2vimine. nende k2tega olen hetkel miinuses. tegin l2bi -8,5BI downswingi ja yritan uuesti jalule saada, aga satun pidevalt mingite imelikkude k2ikude ohvriks - kaotan stacki, tilberdan j2lle tagasi stealide ja v2ikeste potidega - ja nii j2lle ja j2lle. vaatasin m6ningaid videosi, k6ik tundub suhteliselt lihtne, aga kui VPIP50 netinegreanud pidevalt oma stattidevastaselt 2ra karistavad, muutub asi kuidagi hapuks...

Postita oma statsid siia.

n2xxi
28.10.10, 08:50
need siis nl10 statsid.

http://i51.tinypic.com/30tpft3.jpg

Mrt1989
28.10.10, 15:56
Foldid liiga palju stealidele , vaataks vastase fold to 3 beti ja üritaks stealereid karistada.
SB lt callid vist palju . VPIP ja Raise preflop vahe peaks väiksem olema , raise veidi rohkem .

n2xxi
28.10.10, 17:15
millega ma raisen veidi rohkem? ma m2ngin isegi avara rangega (kuigi see numbrites siin justkui ei v2ljendu) ja ei ole ju m6tet AT, AJ, KJ etc. 3bettima hakata. millega ma stealereid karistan? 3betin J3ga?

Mrt1989
28.10.10, 18:03
miks mitte 3betida venda AT , AJ , KJ , sc , A high kaartidega kui ta foldib väga palju 3betidele ? Vaata mis ta steal % on .

n2xxi
28.10.10, 23:24
analoogne selle 22 k2ega, mis postitasin. FTP seab mulle koost88s slowplayeriga l6ksu ja raskelt tulnud sendid l2hevad nende yhiskassasse.
NB! $6 veel kaotada stop-lossini, mis viib mu teenitu mingile teisele saidile boonust ja kasumit koguma.

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Hero (BB) ($19.43)
UTG ($16.15)
UTG+1 ($9.85)
MP1 ($12.86)
MP2 ($3.71)
MP3 ($7.66)
CO ($14.87)
Button ($14.36)
SB ($11.52)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
7 folds, SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.40) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.40) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2.20, Hero raises to $8.75, SB raises to $10.82 (All-In), Hero calls $2.07

Total pot: $23.04 | Rake: $1.53

Results below:
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (full house, Queens over fives).
Hero had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (full house, fours over Queens).
Outcome: SB won $21.51

n2xxi
29.10.10, 07:00
tere tali!


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CO ($15.01)
Button ($10.49)
SB ($6.29)
BB ($3.50)
UTG ($3.35)
UTG+1 ($11.29)
Hero (MP1) ($11.08)
MP2 ($8.40)
MP3 ($10.22)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.50, 3 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB calls $0.45, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($2.10) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.70, 1 fold, SB calls $1.70, 1 fold

Turn: ($5.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.05, SB raises to $4.09 (All-In), Hero calls $0.04

River: ($13.68) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $13.68 | Rake: $0.91

Results below:
SB had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (straight, five high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: SB won $12.77

positiivsuse kybe ka juurde, kuigi see oli vaid 1 hetk enne j2rjekordseid 6hkulendamisi:



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Hero (CO) ($10.09)
Button ($19.90)
SB ($16.85)
BB ($17.88)
UTG ($11)
UTG+1 ($8.62)
MP1 ($11.66)
MP2 ($8.64)
MP3 ($1.67)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG bets $0.30, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets $0.95, UTG raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $9.79 (All-In), BB calls $8.84, UTG raises to $10.70 (All-In), BB calls $0.91

Turn: ($32.14) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($32.14) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $32.14 | Rake: $2

Results below:
BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Aces).
UTG had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
Hero had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: UTG won $1.82, Hero won $28.32


siin suurema stackiga (MP2) villain 89/30 vms ja teine 56/10.

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UTG+1 ($7.13)
MP1 ($10.65)
MP2 ($6.13)
Hero (MP3) ($11.20)
CO ($8.01)
Button ($16.36)
SB ($4.64)
BB ($3.67)
UTG ($22.19)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.90, MP2 raises to $6.13 (All-In), Hero raises to $11.20 (All-In), BB calls $2.67 (All-In)

Flop: ($15.98) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($15.98) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($15.98) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $15.98 | Rake: $1.06

Results below:
BB had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Jacks).
MP2 had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
Outcome: MP2 won $14.92


yldiselt on kaardid kehvad ja heade kaartidega soovitud tulemust ei saa...KK vastas on peaaegu alati AA. AA-d omades on standardv6it SB v6i heal juhul (downswingi miniheateri) m6lemad blindid. setid tulevad sama t6en2oliselt kui Eesti jalgpallikoondis EM-ile j6uab...ja k6ige l6puks iga AJ, AQ, AK k2si toodab floppi 2 sellist n2okaarti, mida ma k2es ei hoia, cbet 3betitakse. m2ngin nyyd t2nu slowplaymeistritele paranoiliselt ja ettevaatlikult, riveri checkin pidevalt isegi kui t6en2osus igati minu poolt on...
ma ei h2dalda tavaliselt, aga praegu on asi lootusetuks muutumas. vahetan ehk t2na pokkerikeskkonda. :confused:

lisaks siin AA ja KK k2te (mis v6iks ju isegi sital ajal aidata veidi rolli stabiliseerida) graafik:

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n2xxi
30.10.10, 01:26
***** Cassava Hand History for Game 130234080 *****
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 30 10 2010 02:18:22
Table Volgograd (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: I_rofton_I ( $21.43 )
Seat 2: JeanMarie666 ( $10.55 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $10 )
Seat 4: BluePoker ( $5 )
Seat 5: pan0xa ( $3.22 )
Seat 6: MRDAVI2 ( $7.61 )
Seat 7: malapega ( $1.57 )
Seat 9: black.moon ( $10.55 )
HERO posts small blind [$0.05]
BluePoker posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc, Ks ]
pan0xa folds
MRDAVI2 calls [$0.10]
malapega calls [$0.10]
black.moon folds
I_rofton_I folds
JeanMarie666 folds
HERO raises [$0.45]
BluePoker folds
MRDAVI2 folds
malapega calls [$0.40]
** Dealing flop ** [ 5s, Ac, 8s ]
HERO checks
malapega bets [$1.07] <-ALLIN
HERO calls [$1.07]
** Dealing turn ** [ Jc ]
** Dealing river ** [ Js ]
** Summary **
HERO shows [ Kc, Ks ]
malapega shows [ Jd, 7d ]
malapega collected [ $3.18 ]

n2xxi
23.11.10, 01:33
mul on selline periood praegu m2ngus, kus p2rast paremate kaartidega all-ini tuleb vastasel 95% parem k2si kokku ja vastupidises olukorras minul 99% ei tule. muidu non-sd on korras ja v2ikeste pottidega on vaikne ylesliikumine, aga t2nased 2 sessi on nl10 -10bi ainult t2nu allinidele, kus vastased kas draw v6i siis t2ieliku imega runner-runner kokku saavad.
kysimus on nyyd selline: kas ma peaks j2tkama oma +EV ja -BR AIsid v6i asja rahulikult v6tma ja n2iteks v2ikesi raisesid tegema v6i yldse checkima/callima riverini, et oma edus kindel olla?