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alaska
29.09.10, 22:06
Uue nurgakese avamise puhul HU mängijatele üks olukord.

Mitte eriti kaua mänginud, Tight agressive tundus, tildi kohta reade polnud.

See käsi just lõppes:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11.5 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (BB) (t1400)
SB (t1600)

Hero's M: 46.67

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
SB bets t60, Hero raises to t180, SB raises to t1600 (All-In), Hero calls t1220 (All-In)

Flop: (t2800) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t2800) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t2800) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t2800

Results:
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won t2800



Ja järgmine käsi mul käes

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11.5 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) (t2800)
BB (t200)

Hero's M: 93.33

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif

Mida teha? Shove? Limp? minraise?

Char
29.09.10, 22:15
shove, ei tasu liiga trikitama hakata
paljud mängijad peale sellist beati kaotavad lootuse ja enamasti callivad su nõrgema käega

Fabulous
29.09.10, 22:20
Ma ise ka shoveksin. Peale sellist kaotust callivad paljud vastased su põhimõtteliselt ATC'ga maha.

PokerDevil
29.09.10, 22:44
Shove imo ja looda, et ta üritab ennast any2'ga mängu tagasi saada. :)

alaska
29.09.10, 22:46
aga kui limpida, kas ta seljuhul rohkem ei shove halvemaga, kui minu shove callib?

Codecci
30.09.10, 01:22
Limp või minraise, oleneb kumba lükke peale ta sinu arust tõenäolisemalt shoveb. Kui ei shove ei ole hullu, saame head kätt positsioonis mängida.

onuark
30.09.10, 01:42
nalja ka: fold pole reaalne?
Meil piisavalt suur stack et oodata kätt veel

harryahven
30.09.10, 01:48
AAd näiteks

PokerDevil
30.09.10, 02:05
nalja ka: fold pole reaalne?
Meil piisavalt suur stack et oodata kätt veel



Oot.. say it again?

andu_andu
30.09.10, 02:27
Uue nurgakese avamise puhul HU mängijatele üks olukord.

Mitte eriti kaua mänginud, Tight agressive tundus, tildi kohta reade polnud.

See käsi just lõppes:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11.5 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (BB) (t1400)
SB (t1600)

Hero's M: 46.67

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
SB bets t60, Hero raises to t180, SB raises to t1600 (All-In), Hero calls t1220 (All-In)

Flop: (t2800) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t2800) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t2800) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t2800

Results:
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won t2800



Ja järgmine käsi mul käes

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11.5 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) (t2800)
BB (t200)

Hero's M: 93.33

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif

Mida teha? Shove? Limp? minraise?

limp 100% - enamasti pushivad any2

alaska
30.09.10, 09:53
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11.5 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) (t2800)
BB (t200)

Hero's M: 93.33

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
Hero bets t2800 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: t40

Results:
Hero didn't show Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif.
Outcome: Hero won t40

Char
30.09.10, 10:07
nalja ka: fold pole reaalne?
Meil piisavalt suur stack et oodata kätt veel

see ongi THE käsi ju :/

a1a2a3
01.10.10, 16:10
Min raise better then push. Call worst.

Char
01.10.10, 17:39
Min raise better then push. Call worst.

ei tea, see oleneb vastasest tegelikult

on selliseid, kes säilitavad närvi ja foldivad sita käe ära, sinu minbetile/shovele, sest nad ikkagi 10bb deep ja sealt on tegelikult võimalik välja tulla küll

niiet olenevalt vastaselt, kes vaatab et su limp on nõrkus, shoveb
teine jälle vaatab et minbet, et fold equitit on ka, et sealt shoveb
kolmandal on poh, mis käsi, nagunii kaotanud, ja shoveb

alaska
01.10.10, 18:17
mulle meeldib nüüdsest limp antud olukorras. Limp...shove...minraise.

alaska
01.10.10, 18:24
Niimoodi.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 23 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (BB) (t1410)
SB (t1590)

Hero's M: 47.00

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
SB bets t120, Hero raises to t1410 (All-In), SB calls t1290

Flop: (t2820) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t2820) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t2820) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t2820

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won t2820


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 23 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - Poker-Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) (t2820)
BB (t180)

Hero's M: 94.00

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
Hero calls t10, BB bets t180 (All-In), Hero calls t160

Flop: (t360) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t360) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t360) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t360

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and fours).
BB had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Hero won t360

Char
01.10.10, 18:46
OT aga mis nimega mängid, siis saan sama limiidi kutti jälgida :P

alaska
01.10.10, 19:19
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