2ves

[2ves]

Tere,

Tegin pokkeriga tutvust selle aasta märtsis kui alustasin NL2 mänguõppimist. Praeguseks olen vedanud end kuidagi NL10. Supelnud olen piisavalt, tahaks nüüd ujuma õppida. Olen valmis saama kriitikat pokkeripro-delt, et mänguoskus paraneks. Ootan konksutaha jäämist ja veealla tõmbeid...

[timz0333]

Thats not even cool story:(

[fyte]

Graafikud kuluks teema alguses marjaks ära. Muidu edu!

[pastilaa]

Edu!

[2ves]

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/8274/2ves26okt1o.jpg

selline elu praegu.

[con]

**** stalker, ära meta mind, jääd alla:D

ja kui ma turnis ikka tulistan siis on käsi ka, üldjuhul ei soovita riverini floatida.

ega sa endine Quks pole?

[peete82]

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/8274/2ves26okt1o.jpg

selline elu praegu.

Miks sa seda teed?

[kardaanirist]

NL10 kohta ikka väääääga swingine ja liiga väike winrate. viska siia mõningaid huvitavaid käsi. kindlasti saad vastukaja.

[2ves]

Miks sa seda teed?

mis mõttes seda teen?

[2ves]

**** stalker, ära meta mind, jääd alla:D

ja kui ma turnis ikka tulistan siis on käsi ka, üldjuhul ei soovita riverini floatida.

ega sa endine Quks pole?

kohavalik oli mitteteadlik. vabandused.
1:1-le mängu ei adu üldse. loodan paraneda.
ma pole Quks.

[2ves]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

LP: $14.38
CO: $4.61
BTN: $12.03
SB: $20.36
BB: $12.32
Hero (UTG): $11.40
UTG+1: $8.61
MP: $19.11
MP+1: $3.85

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has K:heart: K:diamond:

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, MP raises to $1.30, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.60, MP raises to $19.11 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.80 and is all-in

Flop: ($22.95, 2 players) 6:club: 4:spade: T:diamond:

Turn: ($22.95, 2 players) 6:heart:

River: ($22.95, 2 players) 7:club:

Hero shows K:heart: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)
MP shows A:spade: A:club: (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
MP wins $21.81

[2ves]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.00
UTG+1: $4.79
MP: $10.70
MP+1: $17.34
CO: $10.00
Hero (BTN): $10.61
SB: $7.88

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q:club: K:spade:

UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.95, 3 players) Q:diamond: 8:club: 5:club:
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20, fold

Turn: ($4.35, 2 players) Q:heart:
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.80, UTG raises to $5.60, Hero raises to $8.40, UTG calls $2.60 and is all-in

River: ($20.75, 2 players) A:heart:

UTG shows 5:diamond: 5:spade: (Full House, Fives full of Queens)
Hero shows Q:club: K:spade: (Three of a Kind, Queens)
UTG wins $19.73

[2ves]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

CO: $15.78
BTN: $4.00
SB: $10.00
BB: $11.12
Hero (UTG): $11.54
UTG+1: $10.71
MP: $10.00
MP+1: $21.62

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q:club: Q:spade:

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, MP raises to $1.30, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.20, MP calls $1.90

Flop: ($6.55, 2 players) 2:spade: 4:heart: 9:heart:
Hero bets $5.00, MP raises to $6.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.80

Turn: ($20.15, 2 players) 8:heart:

River: ($20.15, 2 players) 5:spade:

Hero shows Q:club: Q:spade: (One Pair, Queens)
MP shows K:club: K:spade: (One Pair, Kings)
MP wins $19.16

[pastilaa]

Hei, oled õiges kohas - kellelgi pole algus kerge :).

KK kätt pole mõtet siia panna - cooler.
KQ käes huvitaks vastaste statid.

[2ves]

PokerStars - €0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

Hero (BTN): €10.00
SB: €10.00
BB: €1.94
UTG: €8.68
MP: €6.54
CO: €4.81

SB posts SB €0.05, BB posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (€0.15) Hero has 3:diamond: A:spade:

UTG calls €0.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.40, fold, BB calls €0.30, UTG calls €0.30

Flop: (€1.25, 3 players) Q:spade: A:diamond: 5:spade:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (€1.25, 3 players) J:heart:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (€1.25, 3 players) 3:club:
BB checks, UTG bets €0.55, Hero raises to €2.40, fold, UTG raises to €4.25, Hero raises to €6.10, UTG raises to €7.95, Hero raises to €9.60 and is all-in, UTG calls €0.33 and is all-in

Hero shows 3:diamond: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
UTG shows 2:club: 4:heart: (Straight, Five High)
UTG wins €16.93

[2ves]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

MP+1: $10.42
CO: $7.13
BTN: $5.49
SB: $10.00
BB: $4.64
UTG: $12.03
Hero (UTG+1): $10.00
MP: $9.85

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q:spade: Q:club:

fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $1.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.00, BTN raises to $5.49 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.49

Flop: ($11.13, 2 players) 7:club: K:diamond: 6:diamond:

Turn: ($11.13, 2 players) 4:club:

River: ($11.13, 2 players) K:spade:

Hero shows Q:spade: Q:club: (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
BTN shows A:spade: A:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
BTN wins $10.58

[MeelisV]

Suht kõik käed on standard coolerid ju või vähemalt sinna lähedale. Pane parem selliseid käsi, kus juhe kokku jooksis või ei tea kas mängisid õieti.

[raunsz]

see A3o ka päris halvasti mängitud, cbet kindlasti! + riveril hulluks minna pole ka mõtet. :D

[kardaanirist]

mõttega neid coolereid topid siia? pane midagi huvitavat. kiire pilguga vaatasin need käed üle, mis postitasid ja mulle tundus, et betsizing on sul küll üks leak.

[con]

kohavalik oli mitteteadlik. vabandused.
1:1-le mängu ei adu üldse. loodan paraneda.
ma pole Quks.

no worries, su sõber juba seletas mulle(:

kui abi tahad siis saada pmiga oma msn, võime sesse teha vm


igatahes, postitad käe, siis ära tulemusi pane, kustuta tulemuste osa ära vm. preflop QQ ei ole vaja allini minna kui vastane on väga tight(ntx 12/8) vaata fold to 3bet stati ka siis.
üldsekäsi postitades pane statsid ka, need annavad palju juurde.

gl ja edu laudades(:

[pastilaa]

see A3o ka päris halvasti mängitud, cbet kindlasti! + riveril hulluks minna pole ka mõtet. :D

Jah, see on väga jama. Miks nii?

[2ves]

tnx

[2ves]

PokerStars - €0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

Hero (BTN): €10.00
SB: €10.00
BB: €1.94
UTG: €8.68
MP: €6.54
CO: €4.81

SB posts SB €0.05, BB posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (€0.15) Hero has 3:diamond: A:spade:

UTG calls €0.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.40, fold, BB calls €0.30, UTG calls €0.30

Flop: (€1.25, 3 players) Q:spade: A:diamond: 5:spade:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (€1.25, 3 players) J:heart:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (€1.25, 3 players) 3:club:
BB checks, UTG bets €0.55, Hero raises to €2.40, fold, UTG raises to €4.25, Hero raises to €6.10, UTG raises to €7.95, Hero raises to €9.60 and is all-in, UTG calls €0.33 and is all-in

Hero shows 3:diamond: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
UTG shows 2:club: 4:heart: (Straight, Five High)
UTG wins €16.93


polnud statse:(

[2ves]

Jah, see on väga jama. Miks nii?

pole statse.
pole põhjendust.

järeldus:
pole mõtet selliselt raha põletada:(

[2ves]

Suht kõik käed on standard coolerid ju või vähemalt sinna lähedale. Pane parem selliseid käsi, kus juhe kokku jooksis või ei tea kas mängisid õieti.

selge.

[2ves]

see A3o ka päris halvasti mängitud, cbet kindlasti! + riveril hulluks minna pole ka mõtet. :D

kuidas oleks pidanud mängima?
vastase tõste (O,55) callima riveril?

[2ves]

no worries, su sõber juba seletas mulle(:

kui abi tahad siis saada pmiga oma msn, võime sesse teha vm


igatahes, postitad käe, siis ära tulemusi pane, kustuta tulemuste osa ära vm. preflop QQ ei ole vaja allini minna kui vastane on väga tight(ntx 12/8) vaata fold to 3bet stati ka siis.
üldsekäsi postitades pane statsid ka, need annavad palju juurde.

gl ja edu laudades(:

tnx

[harryahven]

preflop võid isegi 0.50 või 0.60 panna, et vastane foldima saada, ise mängisin NL10es nii lõpu poole ja toitis. flopil cbet, turnil võiks ka, kui ta chekib ja riveril checkiks isegi järgi, kui ta 2 tänavat callinud, või siis chekiks turni ja võtaks riveril valuet. ja riveril sa pärast min 4beti ei biidi pmst enam sittagi, tolle lihtsalt calliks maha..

[2ves]

preflop võid isegi 0.50 või 0.60 panna, et vastane foldima saada, ise mängisin NL10es nii lõpu poole ja toitis. flopil cbet, turnil võiks ka, kui ta chekib ja riveril checkiks isegi järgi, kui ta 2 tänavat callinud, või siis chekiks turni ja võtaks riveril valuet. ja riveril sa pärast min 4beti ei biidi pmst enam sittagi, tolle lihtsalt calliks maha..

tänud kaasamõtlemast.

[2ves]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

UTG: $10.61
UTG+1: $9.62
MP: $10.40
MP+1: $8.43
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.53
BB: $10.96

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has K:club: J:heart:

fold, fold, MP raises to $0.20, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.35, 2 players) K:heart: 9:heart: 5:heart:
MP checks, Hero bets $0.80, MP raises to $1.60, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($4.55, 2 players) 3:club:
MP bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60

River: ($9.75, 2 players) 7:spade:
MP checks, Hero checks

MP shows K:spade: Q:spade: (One Pair, Kings)
Hero mucks K:club: J:heart: (One Pair, Kings)


13/0/NA/8


Kuidas oleksite paugutanud?

[pastilaa]

Kuidas oleksite paugutanud?

1. fold pre
2. 3bet size gay

[2ves]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

LP: $15.06
CO: $11.03
BTN: $8.24
SB: $10.25
BB: $5.61
UTG: $12.21
UTG+1: $12.91
Hero (MP): $11.56
MP+1: $4.15

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has J:heart: A:club:

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.45, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60, 3 players) 2:club: K:club: A:diamond:
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.20, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.00, 2 players) 4:spade:
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.60, UTG+1 raises to $5.20, fold

UTG+1 wins $8.75


17 (mängib käsi) / 4(preflopis tõstab) /1(agro) / 24(käte arv)

[2ves]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

LP: $15.06
CO: $11.03
BTN: $8.24
SB: $10.25
BB: $5.61
UTG: $12.21
UTG+1: $12.91
Hero (MP): $11.56
MP+1: $4.15

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has J:heart: A:club:

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.45, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60, 3 players) 2:club: K:club: A:diamond:
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.20, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.00, 2 players) 4:spade:
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.60, UTG+1 raises to $5.20, fold

UTG+1 wins $8.75


17 (mängib käsi) / 4(preflopis tõstab) /1(agro) / 24(käte arv)

kas fold on ok?

[2ves]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

CO: $9.65
BTN: $42.49
Hero (SB): $12.10
BB: $10.41
UTG: $9.92
UTG+1: $5.59
MP: $15.34

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has T:club: T:heart:

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.25, fold

Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) 9:spade: 7:heart: 7:diamond:
Hero bets $0.40, UTG+1 raises to $1.00, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.70, 2 players) 3:heart:
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2.00, fold

UTG+1 wins $2.57


20/12/3/25

kas see fold tundub ok?

[Provoker]

Miks sa viimases köes donkad seda floppi`? Antud juhul turni kaart ei muutnud suurt midagi, niiet oloeks pidanud juba flopil foldi leidma kui otsa pandi.

[con]

1. käes on ta agression vaid 1(sample küll väike), see tähendab pmst for value ehk siis ta tõstab ikka ainult käega pmst.
turni c/r näitab tugevust ja ma arvan, et foldiks ka ise kui just mingit readi poleks

2. käes mõtle miks sa flopis callid kui turnis tahad alla anda, säästa raha. käsi vähe aga enamvähem tundub ikkagi suht tight vend, utg range on neil eriti tugev, TTga võid minna setminema(nagu ka tegid), flopis annaks ise alla(ei teeks cbetigi vist).
aga pärats flopi raise peaksid juba kindlasti foldima.

[2ves]

PokerStars - €0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

Hero (UTG+1): €8.22
MP: €10.36
MP+1: €11.70
CO: €5.68
BTN: €11.99
SB: €6.13
BB: €6.31
UTG: €5.38

SB posts SB €0.05, BB posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (€0.15) Hero has A:diamond: K:heart:

fold, Hero raises to €0.40, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls €0.35, fold

Flop: (€0.90, 2 players) T:diamond: 9:diamond: 7:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets €0.70, SB calls €0.70

Turn: (€2.30, 2 players) 9:spade:
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (€2.30, 2 players) 9:club:
SB bets €1.00, Hero calls €1.00

SB shows 8:diamond: 8:spade: (Full House, Nines full of Eights)
Hero mucks A:diamond: K:heart: (Three of a Kind, Nines)
SB wins €4.10


48/25/2/146

preflopil panustasin natuke rohkem, et vend ei ostaks odavalt järgmist vaatamist. Kui flopil pihta ei saa, siis tavaliselt panustan natuke rohkem kui 50% potist ehk antud juhul 0.50. Mis mõtteid tekitab?

[2ves]

Miks sa viimases köes donkad seda floppi`? Antud juhul turni kaart ei muutnud suurt midagi, niiet oloeks pidanud juba flopil foldi leidma kui otsa pandi.

ok.

[2ves]

1. käes on ta agression vaid 1(sample küll väike), see tähendab pmst for value ehk siis ta tõstab ikka ainult käega pmst.
turni c/r näitab tugevust ja ma arvan, et foldiks ka ise kui just mingit readi poleks

2. käes mõtle miks sa flopis callid kui turnis tahad alla anda, säästa raha. käsi vähe aga enamvähem tundub ikkagi suht tight vend, utg range on neil eriti tugev, TTga võid minna setminema(nagu ka tegid), flopis annaks ise alla(ei teeks cbetigi vist).
aga pärats flopi raise peaksid juba kindlasti foldima.


1. jah. see kommentaar väga hea. "c/r näitab tugevust"

2. käe puhul, kui vend oleks flopil callinud mida siis teeksid? TT käsi on väga kahtlane üldse mulle kui algajale. Aga millise statside puhul vennaga sa astuksid actionisse antud situatsioonis?

[con]

1. jah. see kommentaar väga hea. "c/r näitab tugevust"

2. käe puhul, kui vend oleks flopil callinud mida siis teeksid? TT käsi on väga kahtlane üldse mulle kui algajale. Aga millise statside puhul vennaga sa astuksid actionisse antud situatsioonis?

2.käes sellises kohas TTga allin ainult mingi aggro-debiiliku vastu, pmst kõigest mis sulle maksaks oled maas.
mõtle ise mis kätest sa sellisel flopil ees saad olla.


1. käe puhul: http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Number=6605819

pmst mõtle miks sa ise turnis raiseksid kedagi, see on ikkagi sellepärast, et valuet võtta ehk sa tahad riuveriks stackid sisse saada.
ja vastupidi kui vastane seda teeb siis call/raise saad sa ainult siis teha kui oled valmis stackid sisse ajama pmst.

mina selle AJga antud juhul ei tahaks oma stacki sisse panna.

[2ves]

Kas btn (0/0/NA/2) -3nda mängija - ületõstele oleks pidanud olema lihtne fold?
utg1(67/33/lõpmatus/6 lükkas pf 2x lambist AI!

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

UTG: $9.95
UTG+1: $2.64
MP: $3.88
Hero (MP+1): $5.00
CO: $6.13
BTN: $5.00
SB: $3.90
BB: $3.60

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has T:club: T:heart:

fold, UTG+1 raises to $2.64 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $2.64, fold, BTN raises to $5.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.36 and is all-in

Flop: ($12.71, 3 players) 5:spade: 7:heart: 7:spade:

Turn: ($12.71, 3 players) 8:heart:

River: ($12.71, 3 players) K:diamond:

Hero shows T:club: T:heart: (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)
BTN shows A:spade: K:heart: (Two Pair, Kings and Sevens)
UTG+1 shows 9:heart: T:spade: (One Pair, Sevens)
BTN wins $12.08

[pikk28]

kuhu sa enam foldid. Üle poole stacki ju sees.

[2ves]

kuhu sa enam foldid. Üle poole stacki ju sees.

a ütleme, et kui stackist oleks sisse lükanud ca 1/3. Siis oleks foldi leidnud?

[pikk28]

ei

[2ves]

2. AA-ga tappa saamine on lihtsalt kurb. Kas ja millal saab üldse foldida AA?

51/3/1/37
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

BB: $3.84
UTG: $5.07
UTG+1: $4.15
MP: $2.21
MP+1: $2.21
Hero (LP): $11.89
CO: $2.27
BTN: $3.69
SB: $8.18

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A:spade: A:heart:

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.57, 2 players) 8:club: 3:spade: 8:heart:
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.40, UTG+1 calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.37, 2 players) 2:spade:
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.95, UTG+1 calls $0.95

River: ($3.27, 2 players) 2:club:
UTG+1 bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

UTG+1 shows 3:club: 3:diamond: (Full House, Threes full of Eights)
Hero mucks A:spade: A:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Eights)
UTG+1 wins $7.39

[Priidix]

Võimalused:

1. pre easy fold
2. kui juba nii siis enda all in (5$) , võibolla oleks BTN foldinud.

[2ves]

3. sarnane situatsioon käe nr 1 puhul, kus ongi poti suurus ca 1/3 stackist.
Aga käes muidugi JKs. Siin ma leidsin foldi, kuidas ise oleksite mänginud?

kuidas need positsioonid muutuvad kui mängijaid on vähem kui 9 lauas, kas
selle kohta on materjali/infot kuskil (otisin, aga ei leindnud)?

mp2(?) 80/0/2/10
utg1(?) 24/10/4/169

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

UTG+1: $7.85
MP: $5.59
MP+1: $1.71
CO: $7.36
BTN: $2.99
Hero (SB): $5.07
BB: $9.88
UTG: $2.33

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has J:spade: K:spade:

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.25, fold, MP+1 raises to $1.71 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.69, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.46

Flop: ($5.18, 3 players) 8:heart: 8:club: T:club:
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3.15, fold

Turn: ($5.18, 2 players) A:diamond:

River: ($5.18, 2 players) Q:club:

UTG+1 shows Q:spade: Q:heart: (Full House, Queens full of Eights)
MP+1 shows 2:diamond: K:heart: (One Pair, Eights)
UTG+1 wins $4.93

[nikitheone]

miks sa callid sellise käega? see ei ole üldse hea käsi ja sa oled OOP
selle käega peaks sb'lt foldima utg raise peale.

[2ves]

4. QQ AI.
Kes läheks sellise statidega venna vastu QQ AI?
11/9/lopmatus/45

PokerStars - €0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

CO: €3.50
Hero (BTN): €7.04
SB: €1.48
BB: €3.40
UTG: €5.30
UTG+1: €2.78
MP: €4.95
MP+1: €5.42

SB posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.05, CO posts DB €0.05

Pre Flop: (€0.12) Hero has Q:spade: Q:diamond:

fold, UTG+1 calls €0.05, MP raises to €0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.90, fold, fold, fold, MP raises to €4.95 and is all-in, Hero calls €4.05

Flop: (€10.07, 2 players) 4:spade: Q:heart: 6:heart:

Turn: (€10.07, 2 players) 2:spade:

River: (€10.07, 2 players) K:heart:

MP shows J:spade: J:heart: (One Pair, Jacks)
Hero shows Q:spade: Q:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Queens)
Hero wins €9.57


Ma olin juba foldimas, aga võtsin siiski riski!

[2ves]

miks sa callid sellise käega? see ei ole üldse hea käsi ja sa oled OOP
selle käega peaks sb'lt foldima utg raise peale.


nii on. tõsine möödalask. keskendusin calling stationi tüübile, et mängib 80% kätest ja ei tõsta ise kunagi pf-is. Otsus tulenes sellest, et ta mängib kindlasti mingi jamaga, aga kurjajuur utg lahustus justkui laual.

[2ves]

Võimalused:

1. pre easy fold
2. kui juba nii siis enda all in (5$) , võibolla oleks BTN foldinud.

pf callimise asmel AI oleksid paugutanud?

[Priidix]

ma oleks foldinud pre easylt:(

[2ves]

5. JJ vs (36/7/3/74) ja nimeks on veel Bumbidu:)
No sellise venn vastu ei suuda maha visata poisse!

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

LP: $4.05
CO: $5.00
BTN: $7.96
SB: $8.62
BB: $4.93
UTG: $5.65
Hero (UTG+1): $5.07
MP: $3.44
MP+1: $3.96

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has J:club: J:heart:

UTG raises to $5.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.07 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($10.21, 2 players) K:club: 4:diamond: 7:heart:

Turn: ($10.21, 2 players) 7:diamond:

River: ($10.21, 2 players) Q:heart:

UTG shows A:diamond: A:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
Hero shows J:club: J:heart: (Two Pair, Jacks and Sevens)
UTG wins $9.70

[nikitheone]

miks ei suuda? vaata state. 36/7 tähendab seda et ta mängib palju käsi passiivselt. ta tõstab kokku aint 7% käsi, utg'lt on range ilmselt veel kitsam.

e: mis käte peale sa ta paned btw?

[2ves]

6. AA. Kas keegi oleks teistmoodi mänginud?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

UTG+1: $7.68
MP: $5.15
MP+1: $5.67
LP: $4.96
Hero (CO): $5.00
BTN: $1.93
SB: $4.37
BB: $9.08
UTG: $11.07

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A:heart: A:diamond:

UTG calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, fold, BB calls $0.20, fold

Flop: ($0.57, 2 players) 8:heart: 6:diamond: 9:heart:
BB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, BB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.75 and is all-in, BB calls $3.25

Turn: ($10.07, 2 players) 7:club:

River: ($10.07, 2 players) J:spade:

BB shows T:heart: 7:heart: (Straight, Jack High)
Hero mucks A:heart: A:diamond: (One Pair, Aces)
BB wins $9.57

[nikitheone]

ei

[2ves]

miks ei suuda? vaata state. 36/7 tähendab seda et ta mängib palju käsi passiivselt. ta tõstab kokku aint 7% käsi, utg'lt on range ilmselt veel kitsam.

e: mis käte peale sa ta paned btw?

AK, AQ, AJ, TT, 99 ehk isegi 88, aga ka AA, KK, QQ ja JJ!
Või saan ma millestki väga valesti aru?

[2ves]

6. 55 vs K8 (69/15/1/26)
vihale ajab kui seda kätt korduses vaadata. selle käe puhul oleks tahtnud lihtsalt midagi/kedagi ära lõhkuda.
kuidas riveril oleksid käitunud SINA?



PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

UTG: $5.21
UTG+1: $5.69
MP: $2.50
MP+1: $4.93
CO: $10.39
Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $3.61
BB: $12.50

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 5:diamond: 5:heart:

fold, fold, MP calls $0.05, fold, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.72, 2 players) K:diamond: 2:club: 2:spade:
CO checks, Hero bets $0.35, CO calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.42, 2 players) K:club:
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.42, 2 players) 5:spade:
CO bets $1.95, Hero raises to $3.90, CO raises to $5.85, Hero calls $0.45 and is all-in

CO shows 9:club: K:spade: (Full House, Kings full of Twos)
Hero shows 5:diamond: 5:heart: (Full House, Fives full of Kings)
CO wins $9.62

[raunsz]

Riveris calliks ainult. slowtatud kunn võib olla vabalt, arvestades eriti passiivsust ja riveri valuet. :D

[2ves]

8. AJs vs KK(41/10/3/217)
no see vend lihtsalt limbib KK-ga ja see keerutaski mind torust alla.

PokerStars - €0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

BTN: €5.63
SB: €5.23
BB: €0.30
UTG: €5.57
Hero (UTG+1): €5.00
MP: €5.91
MP+1: €7.66
CO: €2.90

SB posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.05

Pre Flop: (€0.07) Hero has J:spade: A:spade:

UTG calls €0.05, Hero raises to €0.25, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to €0.75, Hero raises to €5.00 and is all-in, UTG calls €4.25

Flop: (€10.07, 2 players) 8:heart: J:diamond: 6:spade:

Turn: (€10.07, 2 players) 2:spade:

River: (€10.07, 2 players) 5:diamond:

UTG shows K:spade: K:diamond: (One Pair, Kings)
Hero shows J:spade: A:spade: (One Pair, Jacks)
UTG wins €9.57

[2ves]

Riveris calliks ainult. slowtatud kunn võib olla vabalt, arvestades eriti riveri overbeti.

siin on tõe lõhna.

[2ves]

9. Seda kätt on ka piin vaadata korduses.
Kas ja kus oleks võinud lõpetada oma piiinad? riveril fold?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

BB: $4.40
Hero (UTG): $6.39
UTG+1: $5.25
MP: $12.55
MP+1: $5.42
LP: $4.45
CO: $2.20
BTN: $5.27
SB: $4.52

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A:diamond: Q:diamond:

Hero raises to $0.20, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.42, 2 players) 6:club: A:spade: 5:diamond:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BB calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.12, 2 players) 2:diamond:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.70

River: ($3.92, 2 players) 8:spade:
BB bets $2.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.45

BB shows 2:spade: A:club: (Two Pair, Aces and Twos)
Hero shows A:diamond: Q:diamond: (One Pair, Aces)
BB wins $8.39

[2ves]

10. kuidas sellist olukorda hinnata?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

CO: $2.84
BTN: $12.50
SB: $5.61
BB: $4.00
Hero (UTG): $5.75
UTG+1: $4.71
MP: $3.50

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K:club: A:diamond:

Hero raises to $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20, MP calls $0.20, CO raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

Flop: ($2.07, 4 players) T:club: J:diamond: 6:diamond:
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($2.07, 4 players) A:club:
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.97, fold, CO calls $1.97, Hero calls $1.97

River: ($7.98, 3 players) 5:heart:
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.00, CO calls $0.37 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.00

UTG+1 shows Q:heart: K:heart: (Straight, Ace High)
CO mucks A:heart: Q:spade: (One Pair, Aces)
Hero mucks K:club: A:diamond: (One Pair, Aces)
UTG+1 wins $9.86

[nikitheone]

AK, AQ, AJ, TT, 99 ehk isegi 88, aga ka AA, KK, QQ ja JJ!
Või saan ma millestki väga valesti aru?

arvad, et ta shoveb nende kõikidega utg'lt?

[2ves]

arvad, et ta shoveb nende kõikidega utg'lt?

utg´lt vist mitte ikkagi. Mis käte rangele ta paneksid 36/7 näitajatega?

[2ves]

kas keegi saab võtta kokku selle arutletud ilmselgelt valesti mängitud käe range'ile paneku. Kuidas mõelda, et mis tal käes?

[2ves]

1. Kas sellise dongi vastu mängiksid teistmoodi? Ka turni ületõste oleks võinud callida?

45/36/11
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3 (http://www.pokertracker.com)

MP: $5.69
Hero (MP+1): $5.82
LP: $6.57
CO: $4.82
BTN: $2.46
SB: $4.88
BB: $4.00
UTG: $2.90
UTG+1: $4.03

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05, LP posts DB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.12) Hero has K:diamond: A:club:

UTG calls $0.05, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, CO calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.02, 3 players) T:heart: J:heart: A:diamond:
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.75, CO calls $0.75, fold

Turn: ($2.52, 2 players) 3:diamond:
Hero bets $1.20, CO raises to $2.40, Hero raises to $4.77 and is all-in, CO calls $1.37 and is all-in

River: ($10.06, 2 players) 7:spade:


CO wins $9.57