con
28.01.11, 16:24
Vaadates suunda kuhu see foorum liigub, siis otsustasin teha teema. Neli lühikest lõiku, võtke vaevaks lugeda.
I hate threads that ask about stupid, ignorant questions other people ask. They are belittling and low. Self-congratulatory assholes who snicker and roll their eyes at these people are the reason people stop asking questions: because you make them feel stupid. They're trying to learn something, and you're shitting all over them because you come into the situation with the benefit of having greater prior knowledge than them, or the benefit of a mind better at rational examination.
I'm going to have to paraphrase Carl Sagan here, because I don't know exactly where my copy of The Demon-Haunted World is, but here goes:
There is no such thing as a stupid question. Many people say that, but it really is true. Every question, no matter how ill-formed or ignorant of knowledge, is a request for knowledge, a request for information. It is an effort to understand better. Every time someone asks an honest question, it is an interrogation of nature, an attempt to unlock the secrets of the universe.
Now we're back to me. You assholes are the dicks who drive people away from science. You're the people who consign them to never understanding, because they're afraid of being made fun of for asking the questions they need to ask in order to understand...because when they did try, you laughed at them and made them feel stupid for trying to understand. Nobody wants to feel stupid, and "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Many of us condemn the jock and cheerleader stereotypes that made it uncool to enjoy or be good at science or school in general, but you dicks who laugh at the ignorant people are no better.
So go ahead and complain about how stupid your peers are. Weep for your generation or engage in further hyperbolic hyperventilation about how fucked everything is because some of us are dumber. In a very real way, when you laugh at these people and when you masturbate your own intellectual egos over the stupidity of people not so fortunate as you, you make it all worse.
You are the bane of education. You are the killer of dreams. Someone, at a critical juncture, makes a decision to try to understand and they get laughed at. Humiliated. Shamed. All for ... what? Having the audacity to want to understand, or offer a suggestion that seems reasonable to their limited understanding?
Now, of course I am not talking about the class clowns or assholes asking questions to be funny or to be dicks. But any honestly-asked question is what I'm talking about, no matter how silly or "stupid." And sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.
Instead of laughing at these people and letting them go through their life unvalidated and their thirst for information suppressed, why don't you recognize that they have a fundamental deficiency of knowledge and that the teacher may not have the ability or inclination to help them fill it. Then help them yourself. Just the tiniest bit of validation, even later, can mitigate the embarrassment that he or she feels, and just might result in one less person you would later consider a mindless drone.
tl;dr - Kas sa mõistad, et kui sa halvustad inimesi lollide küsimuste esitamise pärast, siis sa purustad nende võime jätkata küsimuste esitamist.
seda teemat ajendas tegema üks käe thread kus autor vabandas foorumi risustamise ja lolli küsimuse esitamise eest. niikaua kuni inimesed ei julge küsida, seni sureb ka strateegia. isegi lollile küsimusele võib vastata normaalselt, seda enam, et seletus/põhjendus on lihtne. Vastused nagu "fold." jne ei aita mitte kuidagi, igal otsusel on taga mõttekäik ja oleks viisakas see kasvõi paari sõnaga kokku võtta.
I hate threads that ask about stupid, ignorant questions other people ask. They are belittling and low. Self-congratulatory assholes who snicker and roll their eyes at these people are the reason people stop asking questions: because you make them feel stupid. They're trying to learn something, and you're shitting all over them because you come into the situation with the benefit of having greater prior knowledge than them, or the benefit of a mind better at rational examination.
I'm going to have to paraphrase Carl Sagan here, because I don't know exactly where my copy of The Demon-Haunted World is, but here goes:
There is no such thing as a stupid question. Many people say that, but it really is true. Every question, no matter how ill-formed or ignorant of knowledge, is a request for knowledge, a request for information. It is an effort to understand better. Every time someone asks an honest question, it is an interrogation of nature, an attempt to unlock the secrets of the universe.
Now we're back to me. You assholes are the dicks who drive people away from science. You're the people who consign them to never understanding, because they're afraid of being made fun of for asking the questions they need to ask in order to understand...because when they did try, you laughed at them and made them feel stupid for trying to understand. Nobody wants to feel stupid, and "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Many of us condemn the jock and cheerleader stereotypes that made it uncool to enjoy or be good at science or school in general, but you dicks who laugh at the ignorant people are no better.
So go ahead and complain about how stupid your peers are. Weep for your generation or engage in further hyperbolic hyperventilation about how fucked everything is because some of us are dumber. In a very real way, when you laugh at these people and when you masturbate your own intellectual egos over the stupidity of people not so fortunate as you, you make it all worse.
You are the bane of education. You are the killer of dreams. Someone, at a critical juncture, makes a decision to try to understand and they get laughed at. Humiliated. Shamed. All for ... what? Having the audacity to want to understand, or offer a suggestion that seems reasonable to their limited understanding?
Now, of course I am not talking about the class clowns or assholes asking questions to be funny or to be dicks. But any honestly-asked question is what I'm talking about, no matter how silly or "stupid." And sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.
Instead of laughing at these people and letting them go through their life unvalidated and their thirst for information suppressed, why don't you recognize that they have a fundamental deficiency of knowledge and that the teacher may not have the ability or inclination to help them fill it. Then help them yourself. Just the tiniest bit of validation, even later, can mitigate the embarrassment that he or she feels, and just might result in one less person you would later consider a mindless drone.
tl;dr - Kas sa mõistad, et kui sa halvustad inimesi lollide küsimuste esitamise pärast, siis sa purustad nende võime jätkata küsimuste esitamist.
seda teemat ajendas tegema üks käe thread kus autor vabandas foorumi risustamise ja lolli küsimuse esitamise eest. niikaua kuni inimesed ei julge küsida, seni sureb ka strateegia. isegi lollile küsimusele võib vastata normaalselt, seda enam, et seletus/põhjendus on lihtne. Vastused nagu "fold." jne ei aita mitte kuidagi, igal otsusel on taga mõttekäik ja oleks viisakas see kasvõi paari sõnaga kokku võtta.