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Pyha Karu
20.07.11, 01:41
Kui tean, et button callib väga lightilt(callis väga kiiresti ja isegi ei mõelnud all inile ning oli varem kah looseina silma paistnud) ja shovija range on kah väga suur.

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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) (t20321)
BB (t4424)
UTG (t20645)
UTG+1 (t23376)
MP1 (t2920)
MP2 (t7287)
MP3 (t33304)
CO (t27424)
Button (t14887)

Hero's M: 13.28

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets t2850 (All-In), 3 folds, Button calls t2850, Hero raises to t20251 (All-In), 2 folds

Flop: (t9780) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t9780) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t9780) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t9780
Main pot: t9780 between Hero and MP1, won by MP1

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
MP1 had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: MP1 won t9780

See peaks kah suht standard koht olema?

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saw flop | saw showdown

MP3 (t101217)
CO (t73402)
Hero (Button) (t41786)
SB (t82250)
BB (t102084)
UTG (t82367)
UTG+1 (t37759)
MP1 (t9456)
MP2 (t138520)

Hero's M: 5.80

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets t9156 (All-In), 3 folds, Hero raises to t41486 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls t38486

Flop: (t96328) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t96328) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t96328) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t96328
Main pot: t31668 between Hero, BB and MP1, won by MP1
Side pot 1: t64660 between Hero and BB, won by BB

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, twos).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, twos).
MP1 had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, threes and twos).
Outcome: BB won t64660, MP1 won t31668

Pyha Karu
20.07.11, 01:48
Call oleks minu arvates okei isegi ilma buttoni lisarahata, nii et seega lisab buttoni call ainult väärtust juurde.

KristjanLaas
20.07.11, 02:16
Minu arust on mõlemad wp.
Esimeses käes meeldiks mulle see rohkem kui sa oleksid BB peal, aga muidu wp imo, tekitasid endale väga head oddsid kui teadsid, et button väga tihti call-foldib siin.

Teine lihtsalt standard setup.

kivisaba
20.07.11, 02:43
ma foldin esimese käe 100% sest see mängib nii halvasti(omab sitta equitit) nii shovemisrangede vastu kui ka juhul kui me peaks nö vahele jääma

KristjanLaas
20.07.11, 03:08
mainiksin, et ka mina foldin üle 90% esimene käsi, siiski ei arva, et see kehva EV-ga otsus on.

mikk2468
20.07.11, 08:18
Sama muckin esimese, shoveks pigem 98s, 78s vms. Teine on wp!

andu_andu
20.07.11, 10:54
mainiksin, et ka mina foldin üle 90% esimene käsi, siiski ei arva, et see kehva EV-ga otsus on.

miks sa foldid siis lol ?

KristjanLaas
20.07.11, 12:03
sest ma olen kaotanud oma munad ja mängu jooksul ei mõtle kõiki olukordi päris 100% läbi vaid osad on ajus muutunud nn. "standardiks", et automaatselt läheb hiir foldi peale ja ei mõtle läbi, et miks.
Kui mõtleks, siis shoveks ise ka.

KristjanLaas
20.07.11, 12:06
pluss K2-3-4-5-6 on käed, mida am vihkan päriselt kõige rohkem maailmas, ükskõik mida muud võin mängida, aga K2-6 on rõvedus.