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Teema: [PL25] SANGPOMM @ Stars
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10.04.12, 03:43 #61
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Ma raiseks turni kindlalt, kuna FD+SD on lauas. As played paneks väikse beti siiski (1-3$) ja foldiks shovele?
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10.04.12, 07:43 #62
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
C-bet flop, inimestel on väga suuri probleeme 3bet potis paaride foldimisega.
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10.04.12, 12:51 #63
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Bet flop, bet/raise turn kindlasti, et vältida olukordi, kus sa riveris nüüd oled.
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10.04.12, 20:34 #64Õpihimuline Mängur
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Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
jep, tagantjärgi ise ka mõtlen et micro limiit,et kõik betid võiksid max value peale olla. Aga vahest lihtsalt tekib kiusatus slowplayda..
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10.04.12, 22:14 #65Õpihimuline Mängur
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Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Sess läks hästi aga 1 muret tekitav käsi. Kuidas käituda ? vastased mõlemad vaalad loose passive stattidega ja poolikute stäkkidega
$0.08/$0.16 No Limit Holdem
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8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG SuperHadron ($16.95)
UTG+1 bigm2261 ($5.68)
MP1 marcob84 ($15.95)
MP2 linar4ik441 ($10)
CO Djig1t ($31.93)
BTN chatillo777 ($34.42)
SB Hero ($28.12)
BB Kamino_HK ($13.38)
Pre-Flop: ($0.24, 8 players) Hero is SB Q
K
1 fold, bigm2261 raises to $0.56, 1 fold, linar4ik441 calls $0.56, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.48, 1 fold
Flop: 8
Q
4
($1.84, 3 players)
Hero checks, bigm2261 bets $1.32, linar4ik441 calls $1.32, HERO???
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10.04.12, 23:36 #66Õpihimuline Mängur
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Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Sellised käed on alati kõige raskemad, mis käed meid biidivad, mis mitte? OT: Kui palju on muidu optimaalne check raise stat ning squuze?
$0.08/$0.16 No Limit Holdem
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8 Players
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Stacks:
UTG supabo2 ($10.75)
UTG+1 Hero ($20.70)
MP1 soeka20 ($15.44)
MP2 tomiker ($12.80)
CO valahu78 ($16.64)
BTN Kandid1401 ($16)
SB juni0rZ ($19.21)
BB Maks 0001 ($12.80)
Pre-Flop: ($0.40, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1 Q
Q
[tomiker posts $0.16]
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.64, 3 folds, Kandid1401 calls $0.64, 2 folds
Flop: 9
6
5
($1.68, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.64, Kandid1401 raises to $2.40, Hero calls $1.76
Turn: 3
($6.48, 2 players)
Hero checks, Kandid1401 bets $4.16, Hero calls $4.16
River: 2
($14.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.16, Kandid1401 goes all-in $8.80, Hero ???
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11.04.12, 06:43 #67
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Foldiks ära. Siin võib vastas olla 99/66/55/78/96/65 jms.. Board ka suht kohutav, et riveri ai kindlasti instamuck.
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11.04.12, 06:49 #68Klubi Liige
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Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Mis krdi bet see sul flopis ja riveril on? B/f flop. B tähendab korralik bet, mitte selline sitanikerdis nagu praegu.
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11.04.12, 07:33 #69
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Rofl, ei näinudki neid bette.. tõesti.. flopi bet kindlasti suurem ja mis sa seal riveril teed? :D Nii võib olla, et vastane shoveb oma missed drawiga, sest sa mängid lihtsalt lolli :D
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11.04.12, 08:18 #70
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11.04.12, 09:23 #71
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Ühe chipi bettimisel riveris on mõte täitsa olemas teatud boardidel ja teatud käega aga flopi cbet size on küll awful IMO
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11.04.12, 10:26 #72
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11.04.12, 10:45 #73
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

$50.00 Pot Limit Hold'em - 8 players
UTG: $50.00
UTG+1: $40.04
MP1: $35.63
Hero (MP2): $51.23
CO: $50.00
BTN: $54.08
SB: $19.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP2 with A
9
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, 4 folds, MP1 calls $1
Flop: ($3.75) 4
J
2
(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($3.75) 8
(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50
River: ($4.75) 3
(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50
Final Pot: $5.75
MP1 mucks 5
Q
Hero shows A
9
Hero wins $5.49
(Rake: $0.26)
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11.04.12, 11:05 #74
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
haha :)
aga noh käe kulg muidugi erineb nagu siga ja kägu
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11.04.12, 12:28 #75
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Leatherassi raamatust üks play
One of my favorite plays is one I call, “checking with a chip.”
This play doesn’t come up very often. But when it does, it can be
a great way to get to a showdown or gain a wealth of information
on the cheap.
Let’s say we’re playing a 5/10 NL table and you are dealt AcJd
in the big blind. Your opponent raises from the button to $40.
Everyone else folds and you call in the big blind.
The pot is $85 and you go to the flop heads up, each with 100
big blind stacks. The flop comes down 6dJsQd. You decide to
lead out for $60 and your opponent calls. With the pot at $205
the turn brings a 2h and you again decide to bet the turn. You
bet $150 on the turn and your opponent calls.
The river brings a 3h and now you are in a very tricky spot on
the river. Your opponent can have any number of hands, and
all of your standard options don’t sound very good. If you make
a standard two-thirds pot bet on the river, you may very well
just be value betting yourself, as it’s a distinct possibility your
opponent has a better hand than you.
If you check the river and your opponent bets, you have no idea
whether he has a busted draw like KT, T9, or a flush draw. He
might also be value betting a top-pair type of hand that narrowly
beats your second-pair top kicker. You may end up making the
right decision by either calling or folding, but it certainly won’t
be made with any great deal of confidence.
But what if you simply bet one chip ($10) on the river? If you
are called by a hand like KQ, then you only lost one big blind.
If he calls with a worse-made hand, he likely would’ve checked
the river if checked to, or folded to a two-thirds pot bet on the
river. You end up $10 richer in those cases.
Given the action in the hand so far, it is very unlikely that your
opponent is slow-playing a very strong hand. Very rarely do
players slow play in spots when the board is so draw heavy. So the
top end of his range of hands that he can have is almost certainly
a hand like KQ or QT. These two hands are very unlikely to raise
the river for value, so you can be nearly certain that if you bet
one chip on the river and get raised, it is because he has one of
his busted draws. In that case you should beat him into the pot
and call his river raise no matter what size he makes it — even if
it’s an all-in wager.
teksti on veel, aga põhipoint on siin...
väga heade vastaste vastu ei ole see ilmselt optimaalne mäng, aga micros, low limiitides pole neid mängijaid...
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11.04.12, 12:31 #76
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
tnx mees
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12.04.12, 03:41 #77Õpihimuline Mängur
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Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
tegin preaguse aja kõige pikema sessi, 4300 kätt, sain ilusti jooksma. 3500 käe peal olin 6 buy inni plussis. järgneva 800 käega kaotasin kõik, Karma võlad on endiselt , sest igas limiidis jooksen alati alla EV. Endal on mõnesmõttes hea meel, sest joon läheb ülesse ja varem või hiljem saan taga uuesti kokku. kokku jäi siis seis -0.67$ :D paar head kätt oli ka aga need postitan homme, kuna räigelt väsind!
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12.04.12, 14:07 #78Õpihimuline Mängur
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Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Eilsest sessist üks raske käsi, vastane üsna solid PTRi järgi plussis mängija. Kuna board paardus siis ma mõtlesin et ainuke variant on fold, Vaevalt ta seda ässaga teeb, tõenäoliselt A4,44,66,KQs vastane tükk aega tankis ja siis shoves..Ise jätaksin QQ ja AA ta rangest välja sest muidu ta oleks neid käsi 3bettinud..
$0.08/$0.16 No Limit Holdem
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3 Players
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Stacks:
BTN da_vendetta ($27.71)
SB Hero ($32.79)
BB teshah ($22.12)
Pre-Flop: ($0.24, 3 players) Hero is SB A
Q
da_vendetta folds, Hero raises to $0.48, teshah calls $0.32
Flop: 6
4
Q
($0.96, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, teshah raises to $2.36, Hero calls $1.56
Turn: A
($5.68, 2 players)
Hero checks, teshah bets $3.37, Hero calls $3.37
River: 4
($12.42, 2 players)
Hero checks, teshah goes all-in $15.91, Hero folds
Final Pot: $12.42
teshah wins $27.77 (net +$5.65)
Hero collects $0.00 (net -$6.21)
Ja teine käsi, siin oli mul juba plaan enne flopi selge,et kui algne raise juku cold callib 4betti ja 3bettija teeb 5beti siis viskan maha. Tema aga hoopis foldis, siis jäi järgmine mõte, et ässad peaksid rangest väljas olema ja et any flopiga lükkan nupud sissse, aga hookus pookus, sain note kirja ja läheb cooleri alla, teisiti vist seda kätt ei oleks andnund mängida?
$0.08/$0.16 No Limit Holdem
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9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG HeisenRange ($6.90)
UTG+1 chatillo777 ($16)
MP1 erpaco ($5.80)
MP2 Shoverine12 ($57.88)
MP3 addepson ($6.48)
CO Hero ($20.48)
BTN heeginho ($15.12)
SB Simenkon ($16.30)
BB djfiasco ($18.48)
Pre-Flop: ($0.24, 9 players) Hero is CO K
K
1 fold, chatillo777 raises to $0.64, 1 fold, Shoverine12 raises to $1.12, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.04, 3 folds, chatillo777 calls $2.40, Shoverine12 folds
Flop: 2
6
Q
($7.44, 2 players)
chatillo777 bets $3.55, Hero goes all-in $17.44, chatillo777 goes all-in $9.41
Turn: 10
($33.36, 2 players, 2 all-in)
River: Q
($33.36, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $33.36
Hero shows two pair, Kings and Queens
K
K
chatillo777 shows two pair, Aces and Queens
A
A
chatillo777 wins $31.86 (net +$15.86)
Hero collects $4.48 (net -$16)
Shoverine12 lost $1.12Viimati muudetud SANGPOMM poolt : 12.04.12 at 14:15
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13.04.12, 08:57 #79
Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars
Riveri minbeti kohta üks reaalne käsi, mis mängisin...
Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $12.50
BB: $22.25
UTG: $38.75
Hero (MP): $28.72
CO: $38.47
BTN: $36.09
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with A
J
Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, 3 folds
Flop: ($1.85) A
8
Q
(2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BTN calls $1.20
Turn: ($4.25) 6
(2 players)
Hero bets $3.00, BTN calls $3
River: ($10.25) 7
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, BTN calls $0.25
Final Pot: $10.75
Hero shows A
J
BTN shows J
A
Hero wins $5.14
BTN wins $5.13
(Rake: $0.48)
Riveri normaalne betsize oleks mind ennast ilmselt valuebettind tema range vastu ja poleks nõrgemalt suht kunagi calli saand, kuna ta ranges on päris palju käsi mis mind biidivad ka, siis on see bet päris hea siin IMO...
Arvan et ta ei pruugi küllalt tihti raiseda isegi A6, A7 tüüpi kätt(millega aga callib mu normal beti) Samuti callib QK tüüpi käsi ja kui ma siin check/calli peale peaks minema siis olen tihti halvas olukorras ja võin parima käe foldida... Samuti säästan raha AK vastu, mis võib samuti ocasionally ranges olla...Viimati muudetud HerrJanks poolt : 13.04.12 at 09:35
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13.04.12, 16:36 #80
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