Kala6li [NL50]

[kala6li]

Seal kirjaviga, tegelt vajutasingi nuppe ju :)

[kala6li]

Ja vastus eilsele

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1. Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2266639
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Hero (SB): $7.26 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 164628
BB: $12.50 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 4.6, Hands: 616
UTG: $4.41 - VPIP: 46, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.1, Hands: 39
CO: $5.79 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 29, 3B: 24, AF: 2.0, Hands: 49
BTN: $5.87 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 1.8, Hands: 142

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A K
UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.45) A 3 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, UTG calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.15) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, UTG raises to $2.05, Hero raises to $6.71, UTG calls $1.81 all in

River: ($8.87) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $8.87
Hero shows A K
UTG shows 7 5
UTG wins $8.50
(Rake: $-2.48)

2. Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2266638
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $5.61 - VPIP: 41, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 34
CO: $5.69 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 1.0, Hands: 185
BTN: $2.25 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 2, AF: 3.1, Hands: 599
Hero (SB): $5.05 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 164628
BB: $5.20 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 148

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with K A
UTG calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 3 2 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, CO calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.30) A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, CO raises to $2.60, Hero raises to $4.45, CO calls $1.85

River: ($10.20) 6 (2 players)

Final Pot: $10.20
CO shows 5 5
Hero shows K A
CO wins $9.78
(Rake: $0.42)

3. turnis oleks kindlasti pidanud rohkem panema

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2266641
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UTG: $6.18 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 18, 3B: 3, AF: 1.4, Hands: 152
CO: $5.53 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 5.5, Hands: 79
Hero (BTN): $5.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 164628
SB: $3.17 - VPIP: 47, PFR: 18, 3B: 33, AF: 1.3, Hands: 17
BB: $5.90 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 8, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 749

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with J K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.55) 6 T K (2 players)
SB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB calls $1.20

River: ($4.35) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.10, SB calls $1.02 all in

Final Pot: $6.39
Hero shows J K
SB shows A Q
SB wins $6.12
(Rake: $-0.81)

4. Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2266683
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $9.91 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 0.7, Hands: 150
Hero (SB): $5.39 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 164628
BB: $2.22 - VPIP: 36, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 28
UTG: $5.90 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 21, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 28
CO: $17.05 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 23

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A K
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, BB raises to $2.22, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.72

Flop: ($4.59) T 5 2 (2 players)

Turn: ($4.59) 9 (2 players)

River: ($4.59) Q (2 players)

Final Pot: $4.59
Hero shows A K
BB shows T A
BB wins $4.40
(Rake: $0.19)

[pikk28]

muttajaga nõus. Peale 3-bettimist pole seal muud varianti. eriti arvestades positsioone.

[muttaja]

Ja vastus eilsele

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1. Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2266639
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Hero (SB): $7.26 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 164628
BB: $12.50 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 4.6, Hands: 616
UTG: $4.41 - VPIP: 46, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.1, Hands: 39
CO: $5.79 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 29, 3B: 24, AF: 2.0, Hands: 49
BTN: $5.87 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 1.8, Hands: 142

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A K
UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.45) A 3 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, UTG calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.15) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, UTG raises to $2.05, Hero raises to $6.71, UTG calls $1.81 all in

River: ($8.87) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $8.87
Hero shows A K
UTG shows 7 5
UTG wins $8.50
(Rake: $-2.48)

2. Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2266638
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $5.61 - VPIP: 41, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 34
CO: $5.69 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 1.0, Hands: 185
BTN: $2.25 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 2, AF: 3.1, Hands: 599
Hero (SB): $5.05 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 164628
BB: $5.20 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 148

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with K A
UTG calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 3 2 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, CO calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.30) A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, CO raises to $2.60, Hero raises to $4.45, CO calls $1.85

River: ($10.20) 6 (2 players)

Final Pot: $10.20
CO shows 5 5
Hero shows K A
CO wins $9.78
(Rake: $0.42)

3. turnis oleks kindlasti pidanud rohkem panema

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2266641
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $6.18 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 18, 3B: 3, AF: 1.4, Hands: 152
CO: $5.53 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 5.5, Hands: 79
Hero (BTN): $5.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 164628
SB: $3.17 - VPIP: 47, PFR: 18, 3B: 33, AF: 1.3, Hands: 17
BB: $5.90 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 8, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 749

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with J K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.55) 6 T K (2 players)
SB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB calls $1.20

River: ($4.35) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.10, SB calls $1.02 all in

Final Pot: $6.39
Hero shows J K
SB shows A Q
SB wins $6.12
(Rake: $-0.81)

4. Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2266683
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $9.91 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 0.7, Hands: 150
Hero (SB): $5.39 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 164628
BB: $2.22 - VPIP: 36, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 28
UTG: $5.90 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 21, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 28
CO: $17.05 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 23

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A K
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, BB raises to $2.22, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.72

Flop: ($4.59) T 5 2 (2 players)

Turn: ($4.59) 9 (2 players)

River: ($4.59) Q (2 players)

Final Pot: $4.59
Hero shows A K
BB shows T A
BB wins $4.40
(Rake: $0.19)

Checkimine pole häbiasi.

Sõltuvalt vastastest ka bet-fold. Aga kui saad calli, siis oled riveril ikka suht lollis olukorras.

[kala6li]

Millist kätt täpsemalt mõtled, 1. ?

[muttaja]

1. ja 2. suht sarnane olukord ju

[viki]

Kui maas on 4 reakaarti ja vastase ületõste peale raha sisse lükkad,millelt sa peale rea calli loodad saada?

[kala6li]

Pani mõtlema küll :D

[kala6li]

Võtsin uuesti 6 lauda ette 4 asemel, tunnen ennast palju kindlamana. 4 lauaga kipub tähelepanu hajuma ja muude asjadega tegelema kuna actionit vähe ja hakkab olukordades üle mõtlema. Üks käsi ka kus tekkis üks väike küsimus.

Nimelt küsimus selline, et kuidas siin olukorras rohkem valuet saada? Muud varianti vist ei ole kui bet ainult, sest sellisel flopil ei taha ju tasuta kaarti ka jagada, aga milline võiks olla bet, et kehvematelt kätelt ka calli saada( nt. AQ+) peale flush draw ja TT+?

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2267348
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $5.43 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 1.9, Hands: 245
BTN: $6.74 - VPIP: 48, PFR: 39, 3B: 9, AF: 2.8, Hands: 88
Hero (SB): $5.61 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 166912
BB: $2.64 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 307
UTG: $4.77 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 12, 3B: 2, AF: 1.3, Hands: 125
MP: $7.21 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 20, 3B: 3, AF: 4.4, Hands: 87

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, MP raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.70, 1 fold, MP calls $0.55, CO calls $0.55, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.30) 9 5 5 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.70, MP folds, CO folds

Final Pot: $2.30
Hero wins $2.20
(Rake: $0.10)

[muttaja]

Kui vastane tahab (enamasti eeldab see käe olemasolema), siis ta callib. Ega väga leiutada ei anna. Kui agrovaal, siis võid ka minna ch-raise'i peale, aga enamasti kaotad sellega valuet. Küll aga võid flopil natuke vähem panna (nii 20 senti - turnil saad ikka kenasti shpveda), sest reaalselt sul halbu turne ei ole. Isegi kolmas mastikaart võib mõnes mõttes hea olla, sest madalamad paarid ühe potiga callivad siis turni allinni suurema tõenäosusega. Kui on mast vastas, siis on - ega sa käest välja ikka ei saa. Ehk selles käes kaotusi minimeerida ei saa ja seetõttu ürita võite maksimeerida :)

[Dnbftw]

Pre suuremalt tõsta poleks ka patt, 1$ oleks fine MP tõste ja 2 calli vastu. Olenevalt vastaste arvust flopil 65%-100% bet. Kui villased ei hittind, siis ei ole mõtet valuet muudmoodi(nt. slowplay flopil) taga ajada kui ise välja bettides, turnis võib asi kusiseks minna.

[kala6li]

Tänud vastuste eest, täna üks sess tehtud ja käed ei jookse üldse kokku...

[kala6li]

3bet on nii suur aga ikka suudan ässade vastu joosta

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 2268994
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Hero (CO): $5.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 167819
BTN: $12.50 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 4.2, Hands: 652
SB: $5.65 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 29, 3B: 23, AF: 2.5, Hands: 222
BB: $4.00 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 40

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with J Q
Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.25) 5 7 8 (2 players)
SB bets $0.90, Hero raises to $4.40, SB calls $3.50

Turn: ($10.05) A (2 players)

River: ($10.05) 4 (2 players)

Final Pot: $10.05
Hero shows J Q
SB shows A A
SB wins $9.63
(Rake: $0.42)

[kala6li]

Mõned käed veel sessits.

1. Jälle üpriski agro venna vastu, pre callisin lootes buttonilt ka raha saada ja sb vastu oli positsioon

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2269010
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $2.14 - VPIP: 62, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 3.4, Hands: 71
Hero (MP): $5.77 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 168696
CO: $12.26 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 1.5, Hands: 1159
BTN: $12.53 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 5, 3B: 3, AF: 0.7, Hands: 73
SB: $10.02 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 26, 3B: 14, AF: 15.0, Hands: 91
BB: $4.09 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 37

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with K K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.15, SB raises to $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.55, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.60) T 8 6 (2 players)
SB bets $1.10, Hero raises to $2.50, SB raises to $9.32, Hero calls $2.57 all in

Turn: ($11.74) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($11.74) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $11.74
Hero mucks K K
SB shows A A
SB wins $7.00
(Rake: $0.49)

2. Päris hästi minu poolt mängitud käsi ma arvan

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2269012
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $5.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 5.5, Hands: 401
UTG: $13.10 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 24, 3B: 13, AF: 4.0, Hands: 71
MP: $5.42 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 1, AF: 10.0, Hands: 249
CO: $8.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 5.3, Hands: 744
Hero (BTN): $5.06 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 168696
SB: $1.95 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with A K
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.92) A 7 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.92) K (2 players)
BB bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65

River: ($2.22) A (2 players)
BB bets $1.65, Hero raises to $3.96, BB calls $2.25 all in

Final Pot: $10.02
BB shows K K
Hero shows A K
Hero wins $9.54
(Rake: $0.42)

3. Pre callisin kuna stackid olid veits suuremad, turni checkisin järgi lootes riveril tema poolt actionit saada kuid seda ei tulnud ning tegin riveril sellise veits blufi moodi raise ja kuna ma checkisin turni läbi, arvasin, et suht suur võimalus on sealt calli leida, sest suht ilmselgelt oli ta range sellise 3beti juures JJ-AA,AK

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2269014
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $3.00 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 4, 3B: 4, AF: 0.0, Hands: 136
Hero (BTN): $7.71 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 168696
SB: $12.12 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 1.5, Hands: 1159
BB: $12.55 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 5, 3B: 3, AF: 0.7, Hands: 73
UTG: $14.94 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 26, 3B: 14, AF: 15.0, Hands: 91
MP: $3.84 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 37

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with K Q
2 folds, CO checks, Hero raises to $0.20, SB raises to $0.55, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.15) J 4 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($2.95) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.95) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB calls $2.50

Final Pot: $7.95
Hero shows K Q
SB mucks J J
Hero wins $7.67
(Rake: $0.28)

[kjmrc]

1. käsi std
2. käsi wp
3. käsi ilmselt oleks ta turnis ka maksnud lootes riveri peale ja vbla riveris ka oleks väikese vbeti välja pigistanud, tho suht nit vastane vastas. Aga no se on juba results oriented minu poolt kuna tean, et tal oli JJ. Ilmselt ilma teadmata on wp.

[muttaja]

Tegelikult pikas perspektiivis kaotad igasuguste nutsu checkbackidega rämedalt raha

[timz0333]

Ever ei checki flushi turnil, eriti kui paned talle nii tugeva range.

[kala6li]

Palju oleks võinud siis turnil panna? 1.5 oleks hea olnud või isegi 2?

[muttaja]

Nii palju, et riveril saaks ülejaanud raha mugavalt sisse panna. Mikro kohta ei oska öelda, kuid kõrgemal on sellises kohas täiesti standard panna ka miski 35% potist. Vahet pole, kas bluffina või tugeva käega. Rohkem pole lihtsalt vaja - tõmme nagunii ei check-calli (vaid foldiv või checkraise'ib), ja panuse suurus on piisav, et riveril saaks allinni lükata.

[kjmrc]

Kuigi jamh, alati soovitatakse bet-bet-bet nutsiga, et mitte tasuta kaarte anda :)
Sessuhtes pigem nõustun ikkagi sellega, et turni bettida.