Rakeback pro = koristajana teeniks ka rohkem! [NL10FR]

[Jake]

Kui nii jätkub, siis ma varsti quitin pokkerist. Ma ei suuda biitida NL10t. Kurat küll!




Kas keegi näeb positsioonides suurt leaki?





Tänase sessi kõige suuremad kaotused:

1. Kas see oleks tegelikult easy fold?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $12.46 (VPIP: 15.67, PFR: 13.48, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 324)
UTG: $8.89 (VPIP: 37.21, PFR: 22.35, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 86)
UTG+1: $6.27 (VPIP: 61.90, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 21)
Hero (MP): $10.58
MP+1: $20.24 (VPIP: 12.12, PFR: 10.61, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 66)
MP+2: $5.20 (VPIP: 11.90, PFR: 9.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.15, Hands: 382)
CO: $10.45 (VPIP: 17.45, PFR: 14.80, 3Bet Preflop: 5.98, Hands: 1,378)
BTN: $10.00 (VPIP: 13.85, PFR: 6.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.85, Hands: 298)
SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 19.29, PFR: 16.43, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 143)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A A

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, CO calls $0.40, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.35, 3 players) T K 7
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.90, CO calls $0.90, UTG+1 calls $0.90

Turn: ($4.05, 3 players) 8
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.09, CO raises to $9.15 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $6.06

River: ($22.35, 2 players) 2

2.Cooler?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $8.75 (VPIP: 16.54, PFR: 14.50, 3Bet Preflop: 6.59, Hands: 2,057)
SB: $1.70 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 60.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 5)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 13.04, Hands: 42)
UTG: $11.35 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG+1: $7.94 (VPIP: 52.17, PFR: 52.17, 3Bet Preflop: 40.00, Hands: 23)
MP: $7.16 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (MP+1): $10.00
MP+2: $10.00 (VPIP: 15.01, PFR: 10.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.86, Hands: 1,583)
CO: $9.85 (VPIP: 16.72, PFR: 10.99, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 1,555)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A K

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $1.70 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls $1.40, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($5.20, 3 players) T A A
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.60, UTG raises to $9.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.70 and is all-in

Turn: ($21.80, 3 players) Q

River: ($21.80, 3 players) 7

UTG shows T T (Full House, Tens full of Aces)
Main Pot [$5.20]: (Pre 44%, Flop 76%, Turn 83%)
Side Pot#1 [$16.60]: (Pre 54%, Flop 77%, Turn 84%)

Hero shows A K (Three of a Kind, Aces)
Main Pot [$5.20]: (Pre 38%, Flop 24%, Turn 17%)
Side Pot#1 [$16.60]: (Pre 46%, Flop 23%, Turn 16%)

SB shows 4 4 (Two Pair, Aces and Fours)
Main Pot [$5.20]: (Pre 18%, Flop 0.1%, Turn 0%)

UTG wins $20.82

3.Arvasin, et olen riveris vastasest ees ning üritasin max valuet saada. Mängiksite kuidagi teistmoodi?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: $6.00 (VPIP: 10.52, PFR: 7.11, 3Bet Preflop: 2.64, Hands: 1,857)
Hero (CO): $10.84
BTN: $10.93 (VPIP: 14.03, PFR: 11.85, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 1,417)
SB: $10.25 (VPIP: 11.94, PFR: 7.35, 3Bet Preflop: 3.11, Hands: 2,456)
BB: $16.25 (VPIP: 17.64, PFR: 15.04, 3Bet Preflop: 6.15, Hands: 1,249)
UTG: $12.20 (VPIP: 19.16, PFR: 7.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.78, Hands: 1,357)
UTG+1: $6.40 (VPIP: 34.62, PFR: 18.27, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 104)
MP: $14.20 (VPIP: 16.94, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.77, Hands: 250)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T T

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, SB raises to $0.90, fold, Hero calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.90, 2 players) 6 J A
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.90, 2 players) T
SB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

River: ($3.70, 2 players) 5
SB bets $1.75, Hero raises to $6.67, SB calls $4.92

4.Kuidas seda oleks võinud mängida?
4bettida pre?
As played, kas check call flop ja check rais turn on väga halb liin?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $23.54 (VPIP: 20.57, PFR: 13.11, 3Bet Preflop: 4.42, Hands: 892)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 15.50, PFR: 12.36, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 1,511)
Hero (UTG): $18.21
UTG+1: $20.30 (VPIP: 10.13, PFR: 5.06, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 79)
MP: $14.69 (VPIP: 51.52, PFR: 39.39, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 33)
MP+1: $4.89 (VPIP: 16.33, PFR: 8.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 149)
CO: $9.40 (VPIP: 12.63, PFR: 9.51, 3Bet Preflop: 5.79, Hands: 290)
BTN: $17.82 (VPIP: 29.31, PFR: 12.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 60)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.70, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.55, 2 players) J 2 2
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.55, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.70, Hero raises to $3.30, BTN calls $2.60

River: ($9.15, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $3.50, BTN calls $3.50

5. Hitime riveriga maja ning püüdsin max valuet saada fishilt.

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 17.37, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 6.13, Hands: 1,188)
BTN: $10.73 (VPIP: 28.83, PFR: 7.03, 3Bet Preflop: 2.29, Hands: 566)
SB: $9.31 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: $10.17 (VPIP: 15.50, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.29, Hands: 401)
UTG: $6.15 (VPIP: 24.53, PFR: 7.55, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 108)
Hero (UTG+1): $10.00
MP: $10.38 (VPIP: 33.14, PFR: 10.88, 3Bet Preflop: 2.19, Hands: 1,047)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 2 2

UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.20, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.25, 4 players) 3 K 6
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($1.25, 4 players) 2
BB checks, UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold

River: ($1.85, 2 players) 6
UTG bets $0.90, Hero raises to $4.20, UTG raises to $5.55 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.35

6. Standard?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $12.79 (VPIP: 13.66, PFR: 11.18, 3Bet Preflop: 2.73, Hands: 327)
Hero (UTG): $12.47
UTG+1: $12.05 (VPIP: 11.87, PFR: 9.59, 3Bet Preflop: 2.35, Hands: 842)
MP: $11.00 (VPIP: 19.28, PFR: 9.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.63, Hands: 170)
MP+1: $7.94 (VPIP: 20.20, PFR: 14.14, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 101)
MP+2: $8.23 (VPIP: 23.94, PFR: 11.27, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 72)
CO: $10.27 (VPIP: 11.72, PFR: 10.04, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 239)
BTN: $15.75 (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 3.95, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 81)
SB: $5.74 (VPIP: 24.90, PFR: 14.11, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 245)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K K

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.90, fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.90, 2 players) 6 5 7
SB checks, Hero bets $1.10, SB calls $1.10

Turn: ($4.10, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets $2.20, SB raises to $3.74 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.54

River: ($11.58, 2 players) 9

7.Kuidagi ei suutnud riveris leida foldi nuppu..

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $7.97 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 14.09, PFR: 11.93, 3Bet Preflop: 3.56, Hands: 1,383)
Hero (UTG): $10.00
UTG+1: $5.17 (VPIP: 12.88, PFR: 3.73, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 167)
MP: $8.57 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 16.44, PFR: 11.56, 3Bet Preflop: 5.49, Hands: 227)
BTN: $10.65 (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.40, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) 9 4 8
Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.35, 2 players) T
Hero bets $1.80, BTN calls $1.80

River: ($5.95, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.84, Hero calls $2.84

8. Vast üsna standard?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $2.97 (VPIP: 28.65, PFR: 19.27, 3Bet Preflop: 1.43, Hands: 195)
UTG: $9.69 (VPIP: 30.19, PFR: 18.87, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 56)
UTG+1: $8.15 (VPIP: 35.82, PFR: 19.40, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
MP: $3.01 (VPIP: 26.88, PFR: 7.51, 3Bet Preflop: 2.14, Hands: 350)
Hero (MP+1): $10.29
CO: $17.46 (VPIP: 13.02, PFR: 10.11, 3Bet Preflop: 3.55, Hands: 1,947)
BTN: $4.27 (VPIP: 26.39, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 2.99, Hands: 144)
SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A K

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.10, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $2.97 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $1.87

Flop: ($6.29, 2 players) 8 9 T

Turn: ($6.29, 2 players) 6

River: ($6.29, 2 players) K

BB shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 93%, Flop 96%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks A K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 7%, Flop 4%, Turn 5%)
BB wins $6.01

[Mrt1989]

Sample väike ,aga SB peal mingi kala sees. Üldiselt ei tohiks seal eriti flating range olla 3b/fold. Fold to steal ka väga kõrge.

[ristijeesus]

Ära pane positsiooniti, sample väike ja ega ei viitsi süveneda kah.
Aga kui NL10 12BI kaotad, siis on midagi mäda küll.

[ristijeesus]

Käte kohta ka:
1. bet/fold turn ja see peaks väga easy olema. Mida sa omast arust biidid? Cbetid 3way floppi ja uhad turni kah, arvad, et keegi blufib sind?
2. UTG tundmatu, ei 3betikski üldse ja kui see short kala sisse lükkab, siis hakkaks tõukama. Muidu cooler ikka, kui 4bet potis top tripse top kikkeriga foldima hakkad, siis...
3. Pre call on vast ok, pos ja ultraniti coolerdamine on emaotsionaalne lisaboonus, aga kui nit tsekib Ahigh kuiva flopi, aga betib ülejäänd tänavad, siis peaksid nats mõtlema, mis on need käed millega ta su raise callib ja millest sa ees oled. Kas tuleb fifty/sixty ära või oled ise loll?
4. Tundub suht jobu, foldima ei hakka diibina min 3beti peale, aga turni chraise on küll suht mõttetu. Aga kui juba sellise liini võtsid, siis river wp.
5. Hoolimata paljude "omfg sa limbid" kisast võid vabalt järgi limpida, positsioonid on nii sitad, et nii isomine mikros on mõttetu, aga muidu cooler ja enamvähem wp postflop.
6. Ei ütle midagi pahasti, nitiringis võid sellises positsioonis vabalt callida mitte kõige häppima 3bettija vastu ja edasi pole mingit küssat mingi poolestäkise totu vastu. Täitsa kena käsi.
7. On nii easy c/f, et siin pole midagi rääkida. Kõik tõmbed on koos.
8. Nujah, kaotasid 30bb, hakka nööri otsima :) Või pigem otsi siis kui sa siin oleks foldinud.

[korrastaja]

Tee paar sessi coachiga ja ma usun, et -120 asemel saab kiirelt +120

[Jake]

Käte kohta ka:
1. bet/fold turn ja see peaks väga easy olema. Mida sa omast arust biidid? Cbetid 3way floppi ja uhad turni kah, arvad, et keegi blufib sind?
2. UTG tundmatu, ei 3betikski üldse ja kui see short kala sisse lükkab, siis hakkaks tõukama. Muidu cooler ikka, kui 4bet potis top tripse top kikkeriga foldima hakkad, siis...
3. Pre call on vast ok, pos ja ultraniti coolerdamine on emaotsionaalne lisaboonus, aga kui nit tsekib Ahigh kuiva flopi, aga betib ülejäänd tänavad, siis peaksid nats mõtlema, mis on need käed millega ta su raise callib ja millest sa ees oled. Kas tuleb fifty/sixty ära või oled ise loll?
4. Tundub suht jobu, foldima ei hakka diibina min 3beti peale, aga turni chraise on küll suht mõttetu. Aga kui juba sellise liini võtsid, siis river wp.
5. Hoolimata paljude "omfg sa limbid" kisast võid vabalt järgi limpida, positsioonid on nii sitad, et nii isomine mikros on mõttetu, aga muidu cooler ja enamvähem wp postflop.
6. Ei ütle midagi pahasti, nitiringis võid sellises positsioonis vabalt callida mitte kõige häppima 3bettija vastu ja edasi pole mingit küssat mingi poolestäkise totu vastu. Täitsa kena käsi.
7. On nii easy c/f, et siin pole midagi rääkida. Kõik tõmbed on koos.
8. Nujah, kaotasid 30bb, hakka nööri otsima :) Või pigem otsi siis kui sa siin oleks foldinud.

Aitäh aitäh sellise tagasiside eest!

[Jake]

1. Mida sellises olukorras teha?
CO enne donkama pole hakanud. Ma panin ta flushi peale ning foldisin turnis. Oleks õige käik?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $10.20
SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 16.86, PFR: 11.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.65, Hands: 1,128)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 11.41, PFR: 8.46, 3Bet Preflop: 3.81, Hands: 683)
UTG: $10.25 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG+1: $8.00 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: $10.15 (VPIP: 13.66, PFR: 11.92, 3Bet Preflop: 6.29, Hands: 347)
MP+1: $4.00 (VPIP: 16.17, PFR: 14.14, 3Bet Preflop: 5.98, Hands: 2,359)
CO: $8.00 (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, CO posts penalty blind $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.25) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO checks, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, fold, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) A Q 3
CO bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.55, 2 players) K
CO bets $1.70, fold

2. Flopis oleme kolme venna vastu. Oma Ahigh kaardiga ei hakanud cbettima. Turnis hitime TP ja fish donkab .20 senti sisse. Ma arvan, et siin on õige reraisida. Kas reraisi suurus on ok? Riveriks tuleb suht blank. Meil on TPGK ja vastaseks natuke agrom fish. Kas callime riveri?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.27 (VPIP: 15.65, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 115)
SB: $11.83 (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 146)
BB: $27.49 (VPIP: 11.22, PFR: 8.14, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 917)
UTG: $15.05 (VPIP: 32.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 56)
Hero (UTG+1): $12.96
MP: $10.60 (VPIP: 17.19, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 64)
MP+1: $18.58 (VPIP: 12.44, PFR: 7.76, 3Bet Preflop: 3.19, Hands: 2,818)
MP+2: $10.00 (VPIP: 16.57, PFR: 11.91, 3Bet Preflop: 4.21, Hands: 1,210)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 12.37, PFR: 9.47, 3Bet Preflop: 3.52, Hands: 805)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A K

UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, MP+1 calls $0.40, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.35, fold, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.70, 4 players) 4 T 2
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP+1 checks

Turn: ($1.70, 4 players) K
SB checks, UTG bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1.10, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.90

River: ($3.90, 2 players) 5
UTG bets $3.72, Hero calls $3.72

[timz0333]

Calliks turni kQ-ga vastas üsna "loov" mängija tundub ja need näitavad tihti väga random kätt sulle riveris.

[Jake]

Lauad olid päris fishised täna. Vahepeal õnnestus suurem summa maha mängida aga õnneks lõpuks tuli siiski väike kasum :)





1. Oleks pidanud flopi reraisi callima ja turnis tema betile foldima. Aga lendasin liiga laialt peale ja sinna stäkk ka kadus.

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: $6.94 (VPIP: 29.71, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 176)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 12.96, PFR: 8.59, 3Bet Preflop: 3.20, Hands: 1,293)
BTN: $9.30 (VPIP: 42.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
SB: $9.90 (VPIP: 14.83, PFR: 13.52, 3Bet Preflop: 7.70, Hands: 2,015)
BB: $10.44 (VPIP: 9.43, PFR: 6.29, 3Bet Preflop: 3.21, Hands: 515)
UTG: $10.00 (VPIP: 16.27, PFR: 12.27, 3Bet Preflop: 1.71, Hands: 760)
UTG+1: $9.87 (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
Hero (MP): $17.44
MP+1: $4.50 (VPIP: 18.60, PFR: 11.24, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 260)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A A

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.15, 2 players) 2 9 7
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.70, UTG raises to $3.40, Hero raises to $9.20, UTG calls $5.60 and is all-in

Turn: ($20.15, 2 players) 8

River: ($20.15, 2 players) 8

UTG shows 7 7 (Full House, Sevens full of Eights) (Pre 19%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks A A (Two Pair, Aces and Eights) (Pre 81%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
UTG wins $19.24

2. Kas PF oleks pidanud juba foldima?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: $3.48 (VPIP: 52.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 13.89, PFR: 11.60, 3Bet Preflop: 4.37, Hands: 3,088)
BTN: $9.77 (VPIP: 13.90, PFR: 4.48, 3Bet Preflop: 3.53, Hands: 225)
SB: $14.36 (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 13.57, PFR: 11.13, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 666)
UTG: $4.09 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
UTG+1: $9.37 (VPIP: 45.38, PFR: 8.40, 3Bet Preflop: 1.82, Hands: 119)
Hero (MP): $10.55
MP+1: $12.04 (VPIP: 20.21, PFR: 8.60, 3Bet Preflop: 2.31, Hands: 871)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.90, BTN calls $0.90, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.85, 3 players) 3 6 A
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.85, 3 players) 7
Hero bets $2.10, fold, BTN calls $2.10

River: ($7.05, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

BTN shows A A (Full House, Aces full of Threes) (Pre 87%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks J A (Two Pair, Aces and Threes) (Pre 13%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
BTN wins $11.99

3. Heheh :D

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $10.60
SB: $6.49 (VPIP: 81.25, PFR: 43.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 7 5

SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.20, 2 players) 8 7 7
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: ($0.20, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, SB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

River: ($0.40, 2 players) T
Hero bets $10.40 and is all-in,



SB calls $6.29 and is all-in

Hero shows 7 5 (Full House, Sevens full of Fives) (Pre 31%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
SB shows T 5 (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens) (Pre 69%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $12.48

[timz0333]

AJs jah kui võtta arvesse, et sa mängid kahe tight vastase vastu OOP siis fold pre on siin hea valik selle käega mis tihti dominated.
Kui mul oleks infi, et Co võib siin light 3beti panna siis saaksid siin 4bettida ja poti päris tihti maha võtta imo tundub hea koht/käsi.

[Jake]

No ei suuda NL10t biitida. GRRRRRR!



Tundub, et probleem on non-sd, kus kaotan meeletult raha.

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NL5 suudan aga ilusasti biitida.



Kuidas nonsdis vähem raha kaotada?

[timz0333]

Tightimaks ja rohkem value. Kuid ilmselt on probleeme rohkem kui ainult nonsd.

[Jake]

Tightimaks ja rohkem value. Kuid ilmselt on probleeme rohkem kui ainult nonsd.

Mhm. Sul võib täitsa õigus olla. Need on tänased kõige suuremad kaotajad:

1.

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $1.55 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: $12.55 (VPIP: 15.10, PFR: 12.31, 3Bet Preflop: 4.89, Hands: 1,693)
BB: $12.22 (VPIP: 28.32, PFR: 18.14, 3Bet Preflop: 9.86, Hands: 232)
UTG: $11.93 (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
UTG+1: $19.10 (VPIP: 12.53, PFR: 8.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.63, Hands: 431)
Hero (MP): $10.55
MP+1: $8.27 (VPIP: 41.43, PFR: 4.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 71)
MP+2: $12.45 (VPIP: 16.29, PFR: 9.27, 3Bet Preflop: 3.54, Hands: 316)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 33)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T T

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.90, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95, 2 players) 7 3 7
Hero checks, CO bets $1.11, Hero calls $1.11

Turn: ($4.17, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, CO bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

River: ($9.17, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets $5.49 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.49

2.

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: $11.27 (VPIP: 19.55, PFR: 15.01, 3Bet Preflop: 4.33, Hands: 1,717)
MP: $9.88 (VPIP: 12.75, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 206)
CO: $6.71 (VPIP: 50.77, PFR: 1.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 65)
BTN: $11.08 (VPIP: 14.67, PFR: 10.83, 3Bet Preflop: 3.22, Hands: 872)
SB: $9.90 (VPIP: 13.18, PFR: 7.72, 3Bet Preflop: 0.79, Hands: 317)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 9.86, PFR: 7.08, 3Bet Preflop: 3.90, Hands: 3,243)
Hero (UTG): $13.83

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T T

Hero raises to $0.40, fold, MP raises to $1.20, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.55, 2 players) T 3 J
Hero checks, MP bets $1.75, Hero raises to $3.90, MP raises to $8.68 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.78

Turn: ($19.91, 2 players) 8

River: ($19.91, 2 players) 9

3. Praegu vaatan, et riveri osa oli väga kehv. Kui juba sisse bettisin iga tänav, siis oleks pidanud ta reraisi callima?

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG+1): $10.00
MP: $9.67 (VPIP: 43.10, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 61)
MP+1: $10.00 (VPIP: 11.20, PFR: 6.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 261)
CO: $9.85 (VPIP: 16.34, PFR: 8.14, 3Bet Preflop: 4.72, Hands: 3,867)
BTN: $9.64 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: $4.90 (VPIP: 13.44, PFR: 10.22, 3Bet Preflop: 3.08, Hands: 193)
BB: $7.75 (VPIP: 33.72, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 88)
UTG: $10.41 (VPIP: 12.84, PFR: 12.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.16, Hands: 218)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) T 5 T
Hero bets $0.60, BTN calls $0.60

Turn: ($1.95, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $1.30, BTN calls $1.30

River: ($4.55, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $2.30, BTN raises to $5.00, fold

4.

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.00 (VPIP: 11.89, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 3,699)
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $10.15 (VPIP: 11.64, PFR: 8.25, 3Bet Preflop: 3.82, Hands: 1,696)
UTG: $4.54 (VPIP: 49.38, PFR: 2.50, 3Bet Preflop: 1.79, Hands: 324)
UTG+1: $10.74 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 11.69, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 78)
MP: $11.69 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP+1: $8.72 (VPIP: 34.98, PFR: 1.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.80, Hands: 247)
MP+2: $8.00 (VPIP: 16.20, PFR: 8.10, 3Bet Preflop: 1.90, Hands: 288)
CO: $12.12 (VPIP: 22.02, PFR: 21.10, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 219)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 9 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.50, 2 players) T 5 6
Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.30, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $0.90, BB calls $0.90

River: ($3.10, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00

5.

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $13.88 (VPIP: 17.12, PFR: 14.41, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 337)
UTG+1: $9.41 (VPIP: 27.97, PFR: 6.33, 3Bet Preflop: 1.59, Hands: 802)
MP: $4.96 (VPIP: 19.80, PFR: 6.60, 3Bet Preflop: 3.27, Hands: 415)
Hero (MP+1): $12.18
MP+2: $10.00 (VPIP: 8.57, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 70)
CO: $12.50 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 53)
BTN: $11.75 (VPIP: 17.74, PFR: 10.99, 3Bet Preflop: 1.73, Hands: 1,296)
SB: $3.50 (VPIP: 38.87, PFR: 13.98, 3Bet Preflop: 2.14, Hands: 381)
BB: $10.30 (VPIP: 8.60, PFR: 5.38, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 187)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, CO calls $0.40, fold, SB raises to $1.70, fold, Hero raises to $4.00, fold, SB calls $1.80 and is all-in

Flop: ($7.50, 2 players) 4 7 2

Turn: ($7.50, 2 players) K

River: ($7.50, 2 players) 5

Kui kolmas käsi välja arvata, kas siis ka kõik teised on väga kehvasti mängitud?

[timz0333]

Vastus su küsimusele on jah.

Alusta sellest, et anna 11/10 ja 12/7 tüüpi mängijatele rohkem respekti ja otsi neid kellel on range laiem pigem. Kindlasti võid välja jätta igasugsue OOP 3beti flattimise selliste vastu. ja üldse NL10 pm kõigi vastu. Hljem üleval pool tuleb hakata seda tegema sest 3bet bluffitakse tunduvalt rohkem NL10 ma ei kardaks seda.

[pastilaa]

Kui kolmas käsi välja arvata, kas siis ka kõik teised on väga kehvasti mängitud?

pane käsi ikka strateegia teemasse eraldi, saad rohkem ja adekvaatsemaid vastuseid.

1. 33 kätt ainult ja see 3bet % on lihtsalt 1 kord 9st. statide järgi ka suht tight seega snapfold pre. as played ka aru ei saa, et mida biitida loodad niti vastu kes 3tn barreldab seal? AKs (vb ka AQs) aga valdavalt siiski KK+ paneb seal 3tn

2. sama mis eelmine - räme viga sest 1. sa oled juba nitide 3bet range vastu suht surnud + pole initsiatiivi + oled oop


3. nii suurelt pole mõtet cbetida paardunud ja kuival boardil, suht tightii vastu ei paneks enam riveril ka mitte

4. vastane räme nit, ei paneks turni ka (suited sitta jms ta ranges ju eriti polegi, jällegi oled range vastu suht surnud)

5. sellise stacki vastu ok

lühidalt - nagu timz ütles, kaotad spewides keskpäraste kätega regidega madistades selle raha, mille fishidelt muidu korjad. pmslt parimal juhul oledki breakeven sedasi.

edu!

[korrastaja]

Ma ei tahaks üldiselt teistele infot anda, kuna mängin nl20 ja pole oma vastustes kindel aga nii palju tean, et kui nit raiseb, donkab, siis üldiselt tuleb olla väga ettevaatlik kuna nad ei tee seda üldjuhul kunagi millegi nõrgaga... ise, kui mängisin nl10t siis olin püsti hädas 60/0/0 vendadega, kuna pidasin neid räigeteks fishideks, sest vpip oli 60.. kuid tegelikult nende raised ning kõik betid näitavad meeletut tugevust.. kõik! võibolla tead seda kõike vb mitte.. loodan et midagigi oli abiks

[Jake]

Vastus su küsimusele on jah.

Alusta sellest, et anna 11/10 ja 12/7 tüüpi mängijatele rohkem respekti ja otsi neid kellel on range laiem pigem. Kindlasti võid välja jätta igasugsue OOP 3beti flattimise selliste vastu. ja üldse NL10 pm kõigi vastu. Hljem üleval pool tuleb hakata seda tegema sest 3bet bluffitakse tunduvalt rohkem NL10 ma ei kardaks seda.

Mhm. Tänase sessi võtmesõnaks võib samuti õelda, et ma ei anna selliste tüüpide bettidele piisavalt respekti. Kolm suurimat kaotust olid just tänu sellele tingitud, et läksin kaasa, kus polnud vaja.

[Jake]

pane käsi ikka strateegia teemasse eraldi, saad rohkem ja adekvaatsemaid vastuseid.

1. 33 kätt ainult ja see 3bet % on lihtsalt 1 kord 9st. statide järgi ka suht tight seega snapfold pre. as played ka aru ei saa, et mida biitida loodad niti vastu kes 3tn barreldab seal? AKs (vb ka AQs) aga valdavalt siiski KK+ paneb seal 3tn

2. sama mis eelmine - räme viga sest 1. sa oled juba nitide 3bet range vastu suht surnud + pole initsiatiivi + oled oop


3. nii suurelt pole mõtet cbetida paardunud ja kuival boardil, suht tightii vastu ei paneks enam riveril ka mitte

4. vastane räme nit, ei paneks turni ka (suited sitta jms ta ranges ju eriti polegi, jällegi oled range vastu suht surnud)

5. sellise stacki vastu ok

lühidalt - nagu timz ütles, kaotad spewides keskpäraste kätega regidega madistades selle raha, mille fishidelt muidu korjad. pmslt parimal juhul oledki breakeven sedasi.

edu!

THIS! Püüan veel rohkem endast välja juurutada regidega madistamist. Olen võtnud rohkem check calli liini, aga tuleb rohkem kalduda check foldi poole.


1. Lollus:

Kui vastane turnis over bet shoves, siis panin ta flush draw või blufi peale.
Hindasin oma KK üle.

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 7.29, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 96)
BTN: $20.10 (VPIP: 15.91, PFR: 12.88, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 132)
SB: $12.19 (VPIP: 27.65, PFR: 17.42, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 272)
BB: $17.05 (VPIP: 7.45, PFR: 6.38, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 95)
UTG: $18.89 (VPIP: 18.03, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 61)
Hero (UTG+1): $11.41
MP: $10.00 (VPIP: 14.67, PFR: 12.73, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 1,260)
MP+1: $10.49 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 8.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP+2: $4.23 (VPIP: 54.69, PFR: 14.06, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 64)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.05, 3 players) Q 5 2
Hero bets $0.80, MP calls $0.80, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.70, fold

Turn: ($6.85, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN bets $9.00, Hero calls $8.61 and is all-in

River: ($24.07, 2 players) 7

2. Ja jälle suudame raha ära põletada.

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PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $6.65 (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
BTN: $12.29 (VPIP: 12.63, PFR: 10.64, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 97)
SB: $10.05 (VPIP: 13.14, PFR: 10.63, 3Bet Preflop: 3.26, Hands: 849)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 19.30, PFR: 15.11, 3Bet Preflop: 5.39, Hands: 2,849)
UTG: $9.68 (VPIP: 31.18, PFR: 1.61, 3Bet Preflop: 3.16, Hands: 188)
Hero (UTG+1): $10.00
MP: $4.90 (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP+1: $20.59 (VPIP: 15.97, PFR: 7.56, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 121)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.90, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95, 2 players) 7 9 2
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.55, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

River: ($10.55, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.09 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.80 and is all-in

[Jake]

Ma ei tahaks üldiselt teistele infot anda, kuna mängin nl20 ja pole oma vastustes kindel aga nii palju tean, et kui nit raiseb, donkab, siis üldiselt tuleb olla väga ettevaatlik kuna nad ei tee seda üldjuhul kunagi millegi nõrgaga... ise, kui mängisin nl10t siis olin püsti hädas 60/0/0 vendadega, kuna pidasin neid räigeteks fishideks, sest vpip oli 60.. kuid tegelikult nende raised ning kõik betid näitavad meeletut tugevust.. kõik! võibolla tead seda kõike vb mitte.. loodan et midagigi oli abiks

Igasugused nipid, tähelepanekud on alati teretulnud! :)

[Jake]

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