PLO ABC - make a living inbetween 270725 hands

[Confidence]

Mkm, see kes enne betib ja vastase equity välja foldib, võidab.

[gamblingFTW]

Mkm, see kes enne betib ja vastase equity välja foldib, võidab.

See, kes viimasena betib, betib fold equityt ju :)

[feelitwell]

nice hand

Poker Stars $2.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $7.74 - VPIP: 62, PFR: 38, 3B: 0, AF: 1.2, Hands: 26
SB: $2.98 - VPIP: 75, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 4
BB: $2.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 14
UTG: $2.22 - VPIP: 57, PFR: 36, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 14
MP: $1.57 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 29, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 7
Hero (CO): $4.42 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 2, AF: 1.9, Hands: 2525

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with 7 A A 8
UTG raises to $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $0.52, SB calls $0.51, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.14, BTN calls $1.62, SB calls $1.62

Flop: ($6.48) 3 4 9 (3 players)
SB bets $0.84, Hero raises to $2.28, BTN calls $2.28

Turn: ($11.88) T (3 players)

River: ($11.88) 3 (3 players)

Final Pot: $11.88
BTN shows T J J K
SB shows Q K T Q
Hero shows 7 A A 8
Hero wins $8.70
(Rake: $0.30)

[feelitwell]

Päris deep ja ei osanud aimata mis mu equitu võiks olla vs set / nut fd, mõtlesin foldida...

Poker Stars $2.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $3.98 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6
SB: $6.10 - VPIP: 64, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 11
BB: $2.99 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 25, 3B: 33, AF: 0.0, Hands: 4
UTG: $1.59 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 4
Hero (MP): $3.35 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 2, AF: 2.0, Hands: 2661
CO: $3.43 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 14, 3B: 15, AF: 3.0, Hands: 35

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with 8 9 T J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.07, CO calls $0.07, BTN calls $0.07, SB calls $0.06, BB raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.07, CO calls $0.07, BTN calls $0.07, SB calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.70) 4 K Q (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.68, SB raises to $1.36, BB folds, Hero raises to $3.21, CO folds, BTN raises to $3.84, SB calls $2.48

Turn: ($11.59) 6 (3 players)

River: ($11.59) 5 (3 players)

Final Pot: $11.59
BTN shows J K 3 K
SB shows Q K A 4
Hero shows 8 9 T J
Hero wins $10.03
(Rake: $0.30)

Ranged mis määrasin vastastele näitavad selliseid numbreid - mis PLO asjatundjad oskavad rääkida flopi decisioni kohta?
board: KhQh4s
Hand Equity Wins Ties
JsT9h8h 25.02% 147,157 5,985
Ah5hxx 25.29% 150,544 2,467
KKxx 49.69% 295,806 4,650

[gamblingFTW]

pole plo asjatundja aga üpriski kindel et see on fold 3way flopis
e: Isegi 4way, niiet päris tihti sul siin, mõlemad drawd kaetud.

[feelitwell]

2+2 sain viimase käe kohta sellist tagasisidet ühel PLO coachilt:

I like 4b pre. This hand is going to play well HU, not so great 5 ways (our fds/flushes are often dead, and we will flop under-wraps). We are deep enough that we have some playability in position post if we get HU with BB. Also, given how wide the other players ranges are and the fact that BB min 3b I think we are going to get 5b less often. Plus, getting 5b isn't that bad, we have 43-44% equity.

As played, with an SPR of 4.5 vs wide ranges, I don't think we can fold. We just have too much equity and not enough behind. 3 ways with spr 4.5 we need less than 33.3%, its like 32-32.5%. I think we have it. Flatting is better than raising, I don't think raising accomplishes anything. We can call and fold K/Q/4 turns if the other player flats.


Mulle meeldib unless keegi oskab paremat alternatiivi tuua?

[Confidence]

Tundub läbi mõeldud ja väga hea lahendus nii pre kui postflop. Multiway ei pea muretsema sellepärast ka et unexploitable frequencyd oleksid ning board coverage sest see lasub ka teiste mängijate õlul.

[feelitwell]

Oleks CO callinud siis ma ka calling, kuna suht rääbis AA ning ei saa palju sisse pre. As played ma usun, et käsi mängis ise välja. Boonus see, et sessi esimene käsi

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $1.61
SB: $2.29
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $1.61
MP: $2.87
CO: $1.39

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A 3 A 8
UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.21, 1 fold, SB calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.39 all in, SB calls $1.18, Hero calls $0.49

Flop: ($4.23) J 3 T (3 players - 1 is all in)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.61 all in, SB calls $0.61

Turn: ($5.45) 8 (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($5.45) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $5.45
SB shows 4 K 6 K (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows A 3 A 8 (two pair, Eights and Threes)
CO shows 5 3 6 4 (two pair, Fours and Threes)
Hero wins $1.18
Hero wins $4.09
(Rake: $0.18)

[feelitwell]

Samasse kategooriasse AA aga arvan, et vs 1limper on OK isoda?
Aga point sellest, et päris amazing millega minnakse bustoks pidevalt at 2PLO

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $1.61
SB: $2.29
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $1.61
MP: $2.87
CO: $1.39

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A 3 A 8
UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.21, 1 fold, SB calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.39 all in, SB calls $1.18, Hero calls $0.49

Flop: ($4.23) J 3 T (3 players - 1 is all in)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.61 all in, SB calls $0.61

Turn: ($5.45) 8 (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($5.45) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $5.45
SB shows 4 K 6 K (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows A 3 A 8 (two pair, Eights and Threes)
CO shows 5 3 6 4 (two pair, Fours and Threes)
Hero wins $1.18
Hero wins $4.09
(Rake: $0.18)

[feelitwell]

Kuigi olin reaalselt ees, aga kas keegi foldiks siin flopis? Tahtsin foldida, aga ei foldinud :D
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $1.29
SB: $2.17
BB: $2.64
UTG: $1.63
MP: $3.83
Hero (CO): $5.56

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with A A 8 8
1 fold, MP raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.21, 3 folds, MP calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.45) 9 4 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.36, MP raises to $1.17, Hero raises to $3.95, MP calls $2.45 all in

Turn: ($7.69) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($7.69) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $7.69
MP shows 8 J 9 T (a flush, Ten high)
Hero shows A A 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
MP wins $7.44
(Rake: $0.25)

[feelitwell]

vs single raise callida BTN on OK selle käega ma usun, aga kas saan ka callida peale seda kui UTG limp 3betib ja näeme flopi 3way? see on kahtlane
flopi call vast ok, turnil aga kas on vaja betida 4 protection? riveril olin valmis bet foldima, et saada nats valuet ehk just selliselt käelt nagu me arvam, et UTG võib limp 3betida.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

Hero (BTN): $2.31
SB: $2.79
BB: $2.66
UTG: $2.65
MP: $5.57
CO: $2.19

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with T 9 2 J
UTG calls $0.02, MP raises to $0.04, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.04, 2 folds, UTG raises to $0.19, MP calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.60) T 7 Q (3 players)
UTG bets $0.30, MP folds, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.20) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.20) T (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.32, UTG calls $0.32

Final Pot: $1.84
Hero shows T 9 2 J (a flush, Queen high)
UTG mucks A Q A 9
Hero wins $1.78
(Rake: $0.06)

[feelitwell]

POT flop?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $3.03
SB: $2.16
BB: $2.12
UTG: $2.56
MP: $2.11
Hero (CO): $5.26

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with 5 A 2 K
1 fold, MP raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, 1 fold, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.20) 7 T 6 (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $0.09, Hero calls $0.09, SB folds

Turn: ($0.38) 9 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.24, MP calls $0.24

River: ($0.86) 9 (2 players)
MP bets $0.41, Hero calls $0.41

Final Pot: $1.68
MP shows 7 6 7 5 (a full house, Sevens full of Nines)
Hero mucks 5 A 2 K
MP wins $1.62
(Rake: $0.06)

[Confidence]

Kaks viimast foldiks preflopis juba.

[feelitwell]

SPR veits weird. Flop hitib nii MP kui ka BTN ranget arvan, et kui checkime siis läheb käsi turni kus palju scare carde ja MP ning BTN pigem lähevad SD peale. Muidugi kui c/r saame siis GII aga arvan, et cb parem, küsimus aint kas PSB või mingi1/3 PSB ja kas määrab see midagi suurelt?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $2.15
Hero (SB): $2.03
BB: $2.23
UTG: $2.02
MP: $2.76
CO: $2.96

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 7 T 9 J
UTG raises to $0.07, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.07, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.23, BTN calls $0.23

Flop: ($0.92) 9 Q 3 (3 players)
[color=red]Hero ?

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Sama lugu SPR, kas checkime siin plaaniga c/r GII või 1/2 PSB / PSB?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $4.11
SB: $0.74
Hero (BB): $2.16
UTG: $9.28
MP: $2.19
CO: $2.61

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with J A 9 T
UTG raises to $0.06, MP calls $0.06, CO calls $0.06, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.31, UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.25) 6 2 9 (4 players)
[color=red]Hero ?

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Mängid seda teistmoodi?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $2.89
SB: $16.57
BB: $2.12
UTG: $3.06
Hero (MP): $2.85
CO: $4.81

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with A 6 A 4
UTG raises to $0.04, Hero calls $0.04, 2 folds, SB calls $0.03, BB calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.16) 3 T 5 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.07, Hero raises to $0.36, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds


PLO on cool

[feelitwell]

7633 kätt mängitud. Olen enamasti üle läinud tavalaudadele, vahepeal 2 tablen üks tava ja üks zoom, aga tavalauas märksma parem wr, kuigi käsi 10x vähem, aga siiski.
SB ja BB lähevad normilt auku aint :/

[feelitwell]

Meeldib 1/3 PSB tunril kuid check oleks ka vast fine?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $1.97
SB: $2.03
BB: $1.73
UTG: $1.80
Hero (MP): $2.00
CO: $2.08

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with A 8 7 K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.07, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.22, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.45) 8 6 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.44, BB calls $0.44

Turn: ($1.33) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.36

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Pole vast maailma parim käsi millega OOP mängida, aga 3 mängjat taga kes mängivad 50%+ käsi siis arvan, et meil piisavalt connected ja 1suit, et picida flope, price on ka hea.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

SB: $2.42
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $1.13
MP: $2.10
CO: $2.85
BTN: $2.23

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 6 Q J K
1 fold, MP raises to $0.04, CO calls $0.04, BTN calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.17) T 8 Q (4 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.08, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.29, MP folds, CO calls $0.21

Turn: ($0.75) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, CO folds

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repot flop oleks mõistlik?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $3.02
SB: $2.09
Hero (BB): $3.63
UTG: $3.44
MP: $6.40
CO: $2.00

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with J 5 4 J
UTG calls $0.02, MP raises to $0.04, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.02, UTG calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.17) 5 3 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.16, MP calls $0.16, BTN folds, Hero ??

[Confidence]

1/3 size on lamp, mis selle reasoning on? Ei checkiks kunagi alati bet ja mingi 65-80%. Teises usun et me saame c/callida, c/r bluffiks on käsi liiga strong ja c/r for value liiga weak.
Kolmandas leadiks flopi sest, peaks range advantage olema ja leadides peaks käsi normilt välja mängima. C/r peaks ka mõistlik olema, kuid eelistan leadi sest nii tihti checkitakse flop läbi.

[muttaja]

Esimeses käes blufiks ka 1/3psb? Uha sisse, samamoodi teeks ju A blokkeriga. Teises käes blufiks ka sellise sizinguga?

Nagu näha, siis mulle lihtsalt ei meeldi balansseerimata mäng :)

[feelitwell]

good thoughts, ty guys.
ja eks ma iga käsi mis edasi proovin olla parem jälle.

[feelitwell]

love PLO, made käega sain rahad sisse 28% equityga, Ulme muidugi, et SB ei 3betinud pre. ja ulme , et pidas :D

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

BTN: $1.15
SB: $3.98
BB: $2.09
UTG: $1.24
Hero (MP): $2.30
CO: $1.87

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with J A T T
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.07, CO calls $0.07, 1 fold, SB calls $0.06, BB calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.28) 7 8 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.27, CO folds, SB raises to $1.08, BB folds, Hero raises to $2.23 all in, SB calls $1.15

Turn: ($4.74) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($4.74) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $4.74
SB shows 8 9 T J (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Hero shows J A T T (a straight, Seven to Jack)
SB wins $2.29
Hero wins $2.29
(Rake: $0.16)