[Stars FR] Tõmbame foorumi käima vol 2!

[kardaanirist]

mitte, et ma nii kõrget limiiti mängiks, aga esimeses käes leiaks küll fold nupu üles.


edu edaspidi!

[Cypher0]

Esimese venna betsizing oli suht kergelt readitav, väga tihti tegi potsize ja overbet bluffe jms. Kõige lahkem jõuluvana, aga no raha mitte kuidagi kätte ei saanud.:/

[Pahvak]

Teine käsi: miks sa seti 3way potis kinni maksad?

[Cypher0]

Selle kuu käsi on KK igatahes, mõned nopped viimasest kolmest päevast:

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($183.80)
Hero (CO) ($71.25)
Button ($100.35)
SB ($15.55)
BB ($74.55)
UTG ($57.80)
UTG+1 ($51.50)
MP1 ($62.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
2 folds, MP1 bets $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50, Hero raises to $5.50, 3 folds, MP1 raises to $15, 1 fold, Hero calls $9.50

Flop: ($32.25) 5, 4, 3 (2 players)
MP1 bets $20, Hero raises to $56.25 (All-In), MP1 calls $27.90 (All-In)

Turn: ($128.05) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($128.05) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $128.05 | Rake: $3

Results:
MP1 had Q, A (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: MP1 won $125.05

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($44.75)
Button ($50.10)
Hero (SB) ($68)
BB ($50)
UTG ($50.05)
UTG+1 ($54.55)
MP1 ($30.50)
MP2 ($56.40)
MP3 ($50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50, 3 folds, Button calls $1.50, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $6.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($19.50) 9, K, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

Turn: ($19.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG+1 calls $15

River: ($49.50) A (2 players)
Hero bets $45 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $31.55 (All-In)

Total pot: $112.60 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had K, K (three of a kind, Kings).
UTG+1 had A, A (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $109.60

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($50)
Hero (UTG) ($79.70)
UTG+1 ($76.75)
MP1 ($19.35)
MP2 ($135.55)
CO ($49.50)
Button ($68.35)
SB ($49)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
Hero bets $1.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, Button raises to $5.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $20.75, 2 folds, Button raises to $68.35 (All-In), Hero calls $47.60

Flop: ($140.95) A, 2, 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($140.95) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($140.95) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $140.95 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had A, A (three of a kind, Aces).
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $137.95

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($24.50)
SB ($77.50)
BB ($50)
UTG ($20.75)
MP1 ($72.75)
Hero (MP2) ($91.40)
CO ($21.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K
UTG bets $20.75 (All-In), MP1 calls $20.75, Hero raises to $91.40 (All-In), 4 folds, MP1 calls $52 (All-In)

Flop: ($167) A, 6, 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($167) 4 (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($167) A (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $167 | Rake: $3

Results:
UTG had 4, 9 (two pair, Aces and fours).
MP1 had A, 8 (three of a kind, Aces).
Hero had K, K (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: MP1 won $164

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($51.05)
BB ($20.25)
UTG ($54.50)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($51.35)
Hero (CO) ($52.25)
Button ($61.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
3 folds, Hero bets $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 6, J, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, Button raises to $10.50, Hero raises to $28.60, Button raises to $60 (All-In), Hero calls $21.90 (All-In)

Turn: ($105.25) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($105.25) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $105.25 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had 6, 6 (four of a kind, sixes).
Hero had K, K (full house, Kings over sixes).
Outcome: Button won $102.25

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($72.05)
MP1 ($11.15)
Hero (MP2) ($55)
CO ($53.45)
Button ($71.65)
SB ($34.50)
BB ($41.70)
UTG ($15.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K
UTG bets $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.50, CO raises to $53.45 (All-In), 3 folds, UTG calls $13.30 (All-In), Hero calls $46.95

Flop: ($122.95) 2, A, 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($122.95) 9 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($122.95) 3 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $122.95 | Rake: $3

Results:
UTG had Q, A (one pair, Aces).
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
CO had K, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: CO won $119.95

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($63.30)
UTG ($63.75)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($63.35)
MP2 ($58.75)
MP3 ($57.25)
CO ($23.70)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($23.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
2 folds, MP1 bets $1.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, MP1 calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.75) 4, Q, 5 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $8.60, MP1 raises to $26.25, Hero raises to $45 (All-In), MP1 calls $18.75

Turn: ($100.75) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($100.75) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $100.75 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had K, K (two pair, Kings and fives).
MP1 had 4, 4 (full house, fours over fives).
Outcome: MP1 won $97.75

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($45.80)
Hero (UTG+1) ($50)
MP1 ($26.60)
MP2 ($54.85)
CO ($55.60)
Button ($50)
SB ($50)
BB ($50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 2 folds, CO calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($7.25) J, 5, 3 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.80, 1 fold, Button calls $5.80, 1 fold

Turn: ($18.85) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button calls $12

River: ($42.85) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, Button raises to $30.45 (All-In), Hero calls $10.45 (All-In)

Total pot: $103.75 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had 7, 6 (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $100.75

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($54.45)
Hero (MP1) ($83.40)
MP2 ($62.45)
CO ($47.90)
Button ($50.75)
SB ($37.70)
BB ($50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($5.25) 7, J, 6 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4.20, 1 fold, BB raises to $17.85, Hero raises to $47, BB raises to $48.25 (All-In), Hero calls $1.25

Turn: ($101.75) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($101.75) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $101.75 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB had 9, 8 (flush, Jack high).
Hero had K, K (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: BB won $98.75

Mida teha???

[Char]

noo ikka saab beate, aga mis su kogu profit on see kuu KKga?

[raunsz]

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($51.05)
BB ($20.25)
UTG ($54.50)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($51.35)
Hero (CO) ($52.25)
Button ($61.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K
3 folds, Hero bets $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 6, J, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, Button raises to $10.50, Hero raises to $28.60, Button raises to $60 (All-In), Hero calls $21.90 (All-In)

Turn: ($105.25) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($105.25) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $105.25 | Rake: $3

Results:
Button had 6, 6 (four of a kind, sixes).
Hero had K, K (full house, Kings over sixes).
Outcome: Button won $102.25

See suht sick

[Cypher0]

KK:

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Võrdluseks AA kah:

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[Cypher0]

UTG nitindusele kalduv regular, 12/9/2.4, MP1 total donk. Kas olen taga?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($52.10)
Button ($59.85)
SB ($22.25)
BB ($55.95)
UTG ($50)
MP1 ($145.30)
Hero (MP2) ($50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
UTG bets $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50, Hero raises $5.50, 4 folds, UTG raises $11.50Hero ????

[Rage]

UTG nitindusele kalduv regular, 12/9/2.4, MP1 total donk. Kas olen taga?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($52.10)
Button ($59.85)
SB ($22.25)
BB ($55.95)
UTG ($50)
MP1 ($145.30)
Hero (MP2) ($50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
UTG bets $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50, Hero raises $5.50, 4 folds, UTG raises $11.50Hero ????

iizi fold.. kui UTG on nit ja donk foldis.. milles küsimus..

[nalg]

kuidas mindsetiga lood on pärast selliseid kaotusid? kui 3 päeva jooksul sellised, siis ma pole midagi haigemat veel näinud

[Kotkas1000]

iizi fold.. kui UTG on nit ja donk foldis.. milles küsimus..

Mina arvan, et see on NL50 trikiga koht. Arvest seda, et head regid lajatavad sulle 4 beti väga lightilt (isosid ju donki oma 3betiga), siis võime seal näha ka JJ, AK, isegi AQ-d. Aga Ei maksa elu endal keeruliseks teha ilma väga tummiste riidideta. Mina foldiksin, kui vastas ei ole just Chirak1982 või pokerarb või mõni muu selline väga hea reg, kes ******** mu ajusid just sääraste käikudega pidevalt päevast-päeva

[Cypher0]

See EI OLE see sama käsi, aga sama laud, sama regular UTG+1l ja sama donk MP2l samas lauas u. pool tundi hiljem. Mängitud ka samamoodi.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($52.30)
Button ($62.25)
SB ($51.55)
BB ($17.50)
UTG ($48.05)
UTG+1 ($64.15)
MP1 ($51.35)
MP2 ($113.35)
Hero (MP3) ($50)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $1.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1.50, Hero raises to $5.50, 4 folds, UTG+1 raises to $13, 2 folds

Total pot: $13.25 | Rake: $0

Results:
UTG+1 didn't show
Outcome: UTG+1 won $13.25

No mida asja.

[sm112]

Kui sa ei julge QQ-d siin shippida, siis imo lihtsalt coldcall PF, muidu on see ju raha põletamine? Teisel korral oleks mul küll instaship.

[Cypher0]

kuidas mindsetiga lood on pärast selliseid kaotusid? kui 3 päeva jooksul sellised, siis ma pole midagi haigemat veel näinud

Mindset hakkab nüüd juba vaikselt tagasi tulema, aga aprillikuu koha pealt teeks küll näo, et seda kuud selle aasta kalendris polnudki üldse. HEM näitab 8k kätt ja -$340, aga kuna sain oma Alienwarei kätte, siis database kolimise käigus on kahjuks või õnneks suurem osa käsi kaduma läinud, tegelt oli kokku seis midagi -$1k ringis. Siukest tilti ja swingi olen varem ainult unes näinud mis too aeg oli. Maikuus higistasin 16k kätt NL25, kuna olin sunnitud bankrolli vähendama $650 võrra, ja nüüd uuestisündinud mindsetiga tagasi NL50, viimastel päevadel olen juba hakanud vaikselt õige tunne tulema.

The Poker Mindseti sain ka kätte, tundub hea.

[Cypher0]

Kui sa ei julge QQ-d siin shippida, siis imo lihtsalt coldcall PF, muidu on see ju raha põletamine? Teisel korral oleks mul küll instaship.

Shippimise peale veel mõtleks, aga cold calli ma siin küll never tegema ei hakka.

[sm112]

Ma pidasin silmas seda, et kui sa QQ preflop blufiks pöörad, siis parem coldcalli algne tõste setminemise ootuses. 4beti muidugi ei calli.

[Cypher0]

Ok, good point.

[Cypher0]

Vastane 14/7/2.1.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($34.60)
MP1 ($37.05)
MP2 ($34.25)
CO ($49.45)
Button ($62.80)
SB ($35)
BB ($93.75)
Hero (UTG) ($50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 2, J, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.25) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.75, MP2 raises to $15, [color=#666666][i]Hero ?????

[Cypher0]

Vastane tundus siuke mitte kõige teravam pliiats muidu, 17/8/2.2
Tekkis küsimus et kas turnis on enam üldse mõtet cbettida või peaks juba check-foldima, ja as played, mida peale 3betti teha?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($13.40)
CO ($25)
Button ($5.82)
SB ($31.73)
BB ($34.25)
UTG ($21.01)
Hero (MP1) ($27.87)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $0.85, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.55) J, 4, 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.04, 1 fold, BB calls $2.04

Turn: ($6.63) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.32, BB raises to $11.75, Hero ????

[oitarvi]

Vastane tundus siuke mitte kõige teravam pliiats muidu, 17/8/2.2
Tekkis küsimus et kas turnis on enam üldse mõtet cbettida või peaks juba check-foldima, ja as played, mida peale 3betti teha?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($13.40)
CO ($25)
Button ($5.82)
SB ($31.73)
BB ($34.25)
UTG ($21.01)
Hero (MP1) ($27.87)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $0.85, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.55) J, 4, 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.04, 1 fold, BB calls $2.04

Turn: ($6.63) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.32, BB raises to $11.75, Hero ????

Mina calliks. Kui taga oledki siis oute on päris palju, auku reatõmme ja mastitõmme. Niiet vähemalt 13 outi, kui vastasel pole masti juba. Implied oddsid peaks päris head olema siis kui mast kokku tuleb.