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  1. #2121
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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas tiigrikutsu Vaata postitust
    Suht kahtlane, saada starsi kiri, et rigged on.
    Kvaliteet

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Sarjast head mängijad hitivad hästi. Ega mul seal häid valikuid polegi

    Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    SB: $1,431.08 (143.1 bb)
    BB: $2,201.80 (220.2 bb)
    MP: $1,000 (100 bb)
    CO: $1,015 (101.5 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $1,126.43 (112.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
    MP raises to $30, CO folds, Hero raises to $85, 2 folds, MP calls $55

    Flop: ($185) 4 3 K (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $100, MP raises to $260, Hero raises to $1,041.43, MP calls $655 and is all-in

    Turn: ($2,015) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($2,015) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $2,015 pot ($3.00 rake)
    Final Board: 4 3 K J Q
    MP showed 3 3 and won $2,012 ($1,012 net)
    Hero showed A A and won $0.00 (-$1,000.00 net)

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Kuna mulle endale meeldib pigem kenasid graafikud vaadata, siis olgu siin vaid plo200 tavalauad, mitte kogu omaha. Zoomis panen ikka kenasti auku peale algset edu.


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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Plo200-s maksnud reiki 11bb/100. Korralik teenistus Starsile.

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Väga ilus ju 14 000 käe kohta.Sulle ka ju ilus teenistus supernova rakebacki näol
    Mitme VPP peale see aasta lähed-400 000
    Ise püsin ilusti 200 000 graafikus.

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas ropka11 Vaata postitust
    Väga ilus ju 14 000 käe kohta.Sulle ka ju ilus teenistus supernova rakebacki näol
    Mitme VPP peale see aasta lähed-400 000
    Ise püsin ilusti 200 000 graafikus.
    Tõenäoliselt ikka 300 000, kuigi jah, omahat mängides kogeneb reiki märgatavalt rohkem, niiet ka 400 000 on ehk tehtav.

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Rekord kuu... üle EV jooksmises:



    Omaha eraldi:


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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Sama vaala vastu:

    Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (SB): $600 (100 bb)
    BB: $1,310.89 (218.5 bb)
    UTG: $624 (104 bb)
    MP: $622.68 (103.8 bb)
    CO: $603 (100.5 bb)
    BTN: $899.93 (150 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
    UTG raises to $13.50, MP folds, CO calls $13.50, BTN calls $13.50, Hero raises to $84, 3 folds, BTN calls $70.50

    Flop: ($201) 8 2 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $24, Hero calls $24

    Turn: ($249) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $24, Hero raises to $120, BTN calls $96

    River: ($489) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $372 and is all-in, BTN calls $372

    Results: $1,233 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 2 5 A 7
    Hero showed A J and lost (-$600 net)
    BTN showed 9 6 and won $1,230.20 ($630.20 net)

    *****************

    Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    SB: $856.25 (142.7 bb)
    BB: $678.65 (113.1 bb)
    MP: $876.41 (146.1 bb)
    Hero (CO): $1,136.62 (189.4 bb)
    BTN: $1,284.21 (214 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q K
    MP raises to $12, Hero raises to $48, 3 folds, MP raises to $84, Hero calls $36

    Flop: ($177) 8 Q K (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $162, MP calls $162

    Turn: ($501) J (2 players)
    MP bets $630.41 and is all-in, Hero calls $630.41

    River: ($1,761.82) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $1,761.82 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 Q K J T
    MP showed J A and won $1,759.02 ($882.61 net)
    Hero mucked Q K and lost (-$876.41 net)

    *******************

    lõpuks hittis "ausalt" ka. See muidugi viimasena

    Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    Hero (SB): $637.55 (106.3 bb)
    BB: $1,250.61 (208.4 bb)
    MP: $623.70 (104 bb)
    CO: $896.20 (149.4 bb)
    BTN: $2,778.06 (463 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
    MP folds, CO raises to $15, BTN calls $15, Hero raises to $90, 2 folds, BTN calls $75

    Flop: ($201) K J 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $60, Hero calls $60

    Turn: ($321) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $318.20, Hero raises to $487.55 and is all-in, BTN calls $169.35

    River: ($1,296.10) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $1,296.10 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: K J 8 7 3
    Hero showed J A and lost (-$637.55 net)
    BTN showed T K and won $1,293.30 ($655.75 net)

    ****************

    Ühe stäki vahepeal sain ka

    Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    Hero (SB): $652.70 (108.8 bb)
    BB: $1,321.27 (220.2 bb)
    MP: $683.31 (113.9 bb)
    CO: $600 (100 bb)
    BTN: $1,566.47 (261.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with T T
    2 folds, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $54, BB folds, BTN calls $42

    Flop: ($114) Q 2 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets $72, BTN raises to $150, Hero calls $78

    Turn: ($414) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $411.20, Hero raises to $448.70 and is all-in, BTN calls $37.50

    River: ($1,311.40) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $1,311.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: Q 2 6 3 T
    Hero showed T T and won $1,308.60 ($655.90 net)
    BTN mucked T J and lost (-$652.70 net)

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    Omahas ka järjest aiku pannud... ei saagi aru, kas meeletult kehv jooks või asi endas

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    PLO200 peaks piisavalt pädevaid mängijaid olema, et 30-40BI swingid tekiks, kui just att table selectimisega ei tegele. HCC graafikutest ka näha, et isegi puhta bummimisega 20-30BI suht standard.

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    100bb/100 kaotava tegelase vastu ei taha nagu pre foldida. Flop ka ei taha foldida. Turn ka mitte - loll käsi:

    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    SB: $675.16 (168.8 bb)
    BB: $412.83 (103.2 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $522.41 (130.6 bb)
    MP: $1,080.05 (270 bb)
    CO: $406 (101.5 bb)
    BTN: $676.11 (169 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7 T
    Hero raises to $12, MP folds, CO calls $12, BTN folds, SB raises to $40, BB folds, Hero calls $28, CO folds

    Flop: ($96) 9 3 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $93.20, Hero calls $93.20

    Turn: ($282.40) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $279.60, Hero calls $279.60

    River: ($841.60) 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $262.36, Hero folds

    Results: $841.60 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 9 3 2 8 4
    SB mucked and won $838.80 ($426.00 net)
    Hero mucked 7 T and lost (-$412.80 net)

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    Ja siis muidugi natuke aega hiljem tema vastu:

    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    SB: $471.22 (117.8 bb)
    Hero (BB): $400 (100 bb)
    UTG: $1,200.54 (300.1 bb)
    MP: $400 (100 bb)
    CO: $538.72 (134.7 bb)
    BTN: $1,099.25 (274.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T 6
    3 folds, BTN raises to $12, SB folds, Hero calls $8

    Flop: ($26) 8 9 Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $20, BTN raises to $60, Hero calls $40

    Turn: ($146) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $92, Hero raises to $328 and is all-in, BTN calls $236

    River: ($802) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $802 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 9 Q 7 6
    Hero showed T 6 and lost (-$400 net)
    BTN showed J T and won $799.20 ($399.20 net)

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas muttaja Vaata postitust
    Mõlemad jooksud imes ära. Reg :/

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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    SB: $572.42 (286.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $377.12 (188.6 bb)
    UTG: $617.31 (308.7 bb)
    MP: $407.84 (203.9 bb)
    CO: $1,055.26 (527.6 bb)
    BTN: $543.20 (271.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 J 6 3
    UTG raises to $9.40, 2 folds, BTN calls $9.40, SB calls $8.40, Hero calls $7.40

    Flop: ($40) Q T 8 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $38.20, BTN calls $38.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $128, UTG calls $89.80, BTN folds

    Turn: ($334.20) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $239.32 and is all-in, UTG calls $239.32

    River: ($812.84) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $812.84 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: Q T 8 9 J
    Hero showed 9 J 6 3 and lost (-$377.12 net)
    UTG showed Q K Q A and won $810.04 ($432.92 net)
    Sellised double suited ragsid foldi insta. Sa oled OOP, su käsi ei hiti pea kunagi hästi, postflop oled enamus ajast sunnitud sellised sittasi lükkeid tegema ja c/c > c/r siin spotis

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas qjet Vaata postitust
    Sellised double suited ragsid foldi insta. Sa oled OOP, su käsi ei hiti pea kunagi hästi, postflop oled enamus ajast sunnitud sellised sittasi lükkeid tegema ja c/c > c/r siin spotis
    +1 Preflop fold.
    Käsi näeb iseenesest ilus välja (DS ja natuke connectib), kuid long term põletame selliste startinghandidega sellisest positsioonist raha.
    Tüüpiline algajate viga :)

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    Tsitaat Algselt postitas hotcocacola Vaata postitust
    +1 Preflop fold.
    Käsi näeb iseenesest ilus välja (DS ja natuke connectib), kuid long term põletame selliste startinghandidega sellisest positsioonist raha.
    Tüüpiline algajate viga :)
    Oletame, et sihtmärk on SB-l (ei viitsi kontrollida). Palju ta kaotama peaks, et call +EV oleks?

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Ma usun, et küsimus pole õige.
    Umbes sama, et palju kaotama peaks, et 83s call NLis seal normal oleks.

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas qbj0hn Vaata postitust
    Ma usun, et küsimus pole õige.
    Umbes sama, et palju kaotama peaks, et 83s call NLis seal normal oleks.
    Miks seda no limit holdemis küsima ei peaks? Mingite vastaste vastu on see kindlasti +EV.

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Point oli pigem selles, et tegu ultimate rääbisega.

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Lahe :)

    Mõttetu SNE. Vb saab rakebackiga nulli

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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    SB: $217.10 (108.6 bb)
    BB: $103.30 (51.7 bb)
    UTG: $296.88 (148.4 bb)
    Hero (MP): $200 (100 bb)
    CO: $305.24 (152.6 bb)
    BTN: $188.48 (94.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with K A T 7
    UTG raises to $7, Hero calls $7, 2 folds, SB raises to $30, BB folds, UTG calls $23, Hero calls $23

    Flop: ($92) 6 Q 3 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($92) J (3 players)
    SB bets $42, UTG calls $42, Hero raises to $170 and is all-in, SB raises to $187.10 and is all-in, UTG folds

    River: ($474) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $474 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 6 Q 3 J J
    SB showed 7 K 9 5 and won $0.00 (-$200 net)
    UTG mucked and lost (-$72 net)
    Hero showed K A T 7 and won $471.20 ($271.20 net)

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    Läheneme loovalt :P

    Poker Stars, $2/$4, $0.80 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    SB: $569.47 (142.4 bb)
    Hero (BB): $400 (100 bb)
    UTG: $474.30 (118.6 bb)
    MP: $796.06 (199 bb)
    CO: $733.35 (183.3 bb)
    BTN: $548.08 (137 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 9
    UTG folds, MP calls $4, 3 folds, Hero checks

    Flop: ($14.80) 7 9 J (2 players)
    Hero bets $40, MP calls $40

    Turn: ($94.80) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $92, Hero raises to $355.20 and is all-in, MP calls $263.20

    River: ($805.20) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $805.20 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 9 J 2 7
    Hero showed 7 9 and won $802.40 ($402.40 net)
    MP showed J A and lost (-$400 net)

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    lol, nh :)

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    Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

    1. Nähh

    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    Hero (SB): $679.17 (169.8 bb)
    BB: $406 (101.5 bb)
    UTG: $706.89 (176.7 bb)
    MP: $743.09 (185.8 bb)
    CO: $342.39 (85.6 bb)
    BTN: $400 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with T T
    4 folds, Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8

    Flop: ($24) 5 T 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $16.50, Hero calls $16.50

    Turn: ($57) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $41, Hero calls $41

    River: ($139) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $110, Hero calls $110

    Results: $359 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 5 T 7 3 9
    Hero mucked T T and lost (-$179.50 net)
    BB showed 8 6 and won $356.20 ($176.70 net)

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    2. Enda bluffid muidugi ei õnnestunud

    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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    BB: $415.33 (103.8 bb)
    Hero (SB): $492.82 (123.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 6
    Hero raises to $8, BB raises to $32, Hero calls $24

    Flop: ($64) Q 7 8 (2 players)
    BB bets $31.75, Hero calls $31.75

    Turn: ($127.50) J (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $92, BB calls $92

    River: ($311.50) Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $337.07 and is all-in, BB calls $259.58 and is all-in

    Results: $830.66 pot ($0.50 rake)
    Final Board: Q 7 8 J Q
    BB showed Q 9 and won $830.16 ($414.83 net)
    Hero showed 4 6 and lost (-$415.33 net)

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    3.

    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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    BB: $406 (101.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): $491 (122.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 J
    Hero raises to $8, BB calls $4

    Flop: ($16) 3 9 Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

    Turn: ($40) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $32, BB calls $32

    River: ($104) Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $72, BB raises to $256, Hero folds

    Results: $248 pot ($0.50 rake)
    Final Board: 3 9 Q 3 Q
    BB mucked and won $247.50 ($123.50 net)
    Hero mucked 8 J and lost (-$124 net)

    **

    4. Vähemalt võitsin

    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    SB: $402 (100.5 bb)
    BB: $681.69 (170.4 bb)
    UTG: $419.66 (104.9 bb)
    MP: $338.46 (84.6 bb)
    CO: $454.14 (113.5 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $577.86 (144.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
    3 folds, Hero raises to $8, SB raises to $32, BB folds, Hero calls $24

    Flop: ($68) 6 3 7 (2 players)
    SB bets $35.21, Hero raises to $104, SB calls $68.79

    Turn: ($276) 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($276) T (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Results: $276 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 6 3 7 5 T
    SB showed 9 9 and lost (-$136 net)
    Hero showed A A and won $273.20 ($137.20 net)
    Viimati muudetud muttaja poolt : 19.09.14 at 14:37

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