[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[Pyha Karu]

Aint Omaha kõik?

Ma ei mõista, killisid Holdemit miski 5bb/100 ja siis otsustasid järsku Omaha Rakeback proks hakata?

Küsisin sama asja mõned kuud tagasi, aga ei saanud vastust. Päris huvitav jah. Ehk seotud sellega et kõrgemal tasemel omahas rohkem actionit ja tasub õppida. Winrateid kah Omahas palju kõrgemad headel mängijatel võrreldes holdemiga?

[muttaja]

Ega keegi ei hakka rakebackproks, asjad kujunevad nii. Antud juhul loodan, et on kujunenud peamiselt kehva jooksu tõttu.

Omahas tundus rohkem actionit olema ja otsustasin proovida. Oleks vast pidanud natuke tugevama teoreetilise pagasiga sellele reisile minema, aga üldiselt ma otsust ei kahetse. Scriptimine oli üks asi, mis tegi holdemi ülimalt ebameeldivaks, omahas selline asi millegipärast puudub - tõenäoliselt selle tõttu, et fish-reg suhe on parem. Peaks ju siis ka rohkem võitma? Tuleb ka see aeg, kui skill lihvitum, jooks toetab, väsimus, tilt ega tüdimus sega. Igav pole omahas kunagi, aga pean endale meelde tuletama, et väsimus hiilib ligi märksa kiiremini kui holdemis, ehk sessid tuleb teha lühemad ning kehvast jooksust tingitud frustratsiooni mõju laastavam.

Üldislet vaata tuleviku suunas optimistlikult.

[RudiTurbo]

Scriptimine on annoying as fck küll, öösel kella 4-6 vahemikus õnneks regge nii vähe, et jõuab laudadesse istuda küll.

imo olid liiga hea Holdemi mängija, et selline jump teha :)

[Codecci]

Miks te scripte ei kasuta, head on custom made ja pole avalikult saadaval?

[p0l1]

OP: kuidas NLHE ja PLO graafikud eraldi 2015-l on?

[muttaja]

OP: kuidas NLHE ja PLO graafikud eraldi 2015-l on?

Vaid 7000 kätt mänginud holdemit sel aastal ja sedagi aasta alguses. Nullis pmst.

[muttaja]

Mängisin fishiga HU-d. Üldse ei taht tulla. Ühe käe lõpuks võitsin ja fish insta ujus minema. Selle peale hakkasin teistes laudades hittima.



Hästi maksavad 3-4bb/100 kaotavad lowstakes regid.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $102 (102 bb)
Hero (BB): $126.58 (126.6 bb)
MP: $93.43 (93.4 bb)
CO: $223.87 (223.9 bb)
BTN: $82.71 (82.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J 6 T 7
MP raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, SB folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($14.50) 5 3 4 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $8, CO folds, BTN calls $8, Hero raises to $45.85, MP folds, BTN raises to $79.21 and is all-in, Hero calls $33.36

Turn: ($180.92) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($180.92) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $180.92 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: 5 3 4 3 Q
Hero showed J 6 T 7 and won $178.77 ($96.06 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$11.50 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$3.50 net)
BTN showed K A 2 6 and lost (-$82.71 net)

[muttaja]

Märg unenägu :D

Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $168.27 (84.1 bb)
BB: $346.95 (173.5 bb)
UTG: $397.41 (198.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $602.24 (301.1 bb)
CO: $519.16 (259.6 bb)
BTN: $478.66 (239.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K 4 K A
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $11.40, 3 folds, BB calls $9.40, UTG calls $9.40

Flop: ($37.60) K 8 4 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $22, BB raises to $101.91, UTG folds, Hero raises to $341.64, BB calls $233.24 and is all-in

Turn: ($707.90) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($707.90) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $707.90 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: K 8 4 T T
BB showed 8 K 7 2 and lost (-$346.95 net)
UTG mucked and lost (-$11.80 net)
Hero showed K 4 K A and won $705.10 ($358.15 net)

[muttaja]

Sama tüübi vastu. Seni oli btn 4b 4/10, fold to 3bet 0/10.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $483.20 (241.6 bb)
CO: $105 (52.5 bb)
BTN: $293.69 (146.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 K J A
CO folds, BTN raises to $4.90, SB folds, Hero raises to $15.70, BTN raises to $48.10, Hero raises to $145.30, BTN calls $97.20

Flop: ($291.60) 4 4 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $290.10, BTN calls $148.39 and is all-in

Turn: ($588.38) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($588.38) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $588.38 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 4 4 8 9 K
Hero showed 8 K J A and lost (-$293.69 net)
BTN showed 3 5 6 4 and won $586.88 ($293.19 net)

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Tuttav flop.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $255.26 (127.6 bb)
UTG: $397.09 (198.5 bb)
MP: $205.94 (103 bb)
CO: $311.83 (155.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $274.76 (137.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A T K
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO calls $6, Hero raises to $27, 2 folds, MP raises to $90, CO folds, Hero calls $63

Flop: ($189) 8 4 4 (2 players)
MP bets $115.94 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $189 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 4 4
MP mucked and won $186.20 ($96.20 net)
Hero mucked Q A T K and lost (-$90 net)

[muttaja]

Kodumaise reg-i vastu. Klassika:

Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $397.60 (198.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)
MP: $176.80 (88.4 bb)
CO: $353.81 (176.9 bb)
BTN: $208.51 (104.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K 8 J 8
UTG folds, MP calls $2, CO raises to $11.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $9.40, MP calls $9.40

Flop: ($37.60) 6 6 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $16, Hero calls $16, MP folds

Turn: ($69.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $38, Hero calls $38

River: ($145.60) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $48, Hero raises to $134.20 and is all-in, CO calls $86.20

Results: $414.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 6 8 6 8
Hero showed K 8 J 8 and won $411.20 ($211.20 net)
CO showed 6 K J T and lost (-$200 net)

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Kaheksaid olid veel tegijad. Sel korral väga armas vaal:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $210.06 (105 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $219.10 (109.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q 8 T 5
CO folds, BTN raises to $7, SB folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15) 2 8 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $14.32, Hero calls $14.32

Turn: ($43.64) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $42.14, Hero calls $42.14

River: ($127.92) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $126.42, Hero raises to $136.54 and is all-in, BTN calls $10.12

Results: $401 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 2 8 A 8 8
Hero showed Q 8 T 5 and won $399.50 ($199.50 net)
BTN showed 5 4 6 6 and lost (-$200 net)

[hotcocacola]

Kodumaise reg-i vastu. Klassika:

Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $397.60 (198.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)
MP: $176.80 (88.4 bb)
CO: $353.81 (176.9 bb)
BTN: $208.51 (104.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K 8 J 8
UTG folds, MP calls $2, CO raises to $11.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $9.40, MP calls $9.40

Flop: ($37.60) 6 6 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $16, Hero calls $16, MP folds

Turn: ($69.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $38, Hero calls $38

River: ($145.60) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $48, Hero raises to $134.20 and is all-in, CO calls $86.20

Results: $414.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 6 8 6 8
Hero showed K 8 J 8 and won $411.20 ($211.20 net)
CO showed 6 K J T and lost (-$200 net)

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Kaheksaid olid veel tegijad. Sel korral väga armas vaal:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $210.06 (105 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $219.10 (109.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q 8 T 5
CO folds, BTN raises to $7, SB folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15) 2 8 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $14.32, Hero calls $14.32

Turn: ($43.64) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $42.14, Hero calls $42.14

River: ($127.92) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $126.42, Hero raises to $136.54 and is all-in, BTN calls $10.12

Results: $401 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 2 8 A 8 8
Hero showed Q 8 T 5 and won $399.50 ($199.50 net)
BTN showed 5 4 6 6 and lost (-$200 net)

Esimeses olin hävija, teises pealtvaataja rollis. #rigged #kaheksad

[bi0hazard]

Aa ei, coca, mida sa esimeses käes biidid? Kas muttaja tõesti selline spewmanki, et seal sind(sa ei ole kõige loosem vend) nii blufiks.

[Codecci]

Cocal vaja 21% kordadest õige olla, et callida ja Coca riveri betsizing võib seal induceda küll mõnusalt. Omahas võib teatud kohtades nelikuid foldida küll, aga see pole ikka päris see koht imo :D

[hotcocacola]

Inducev sizing, sp ei saanudki foldida.
Elu on näidanud, et alati, kui sellises kohas otsa saan, siis olen beat - so sick, kergem on rebuy teha, kui foldida :P

[hotcocacola]

Lolz, just mängisin sellise käe, mõtlesin, et postitan siia

Poker Stars $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 3 players - View hand 2779774
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $851.01
Hero (BB): $547.97
BTN: $926.74

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with 5 A 3 3
1 fold, SB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) 3 3 6 (2 players)
SB bets $16.73, Hero calls $16.73

Turn: ($57.46) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $40.85, Hero raises to $148, SB calls $107.15

River: ($353.46) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $306, SB raises to $612, Hero calls $65.24 all in

Final Pot: $1095.94
SB shows 7 8 6 6 (four of a kind, Sixes)
Hero shows 5 A 3 3 (four of a kind, Threes)
SB wins $1094.44
(Rake: $1.50)

[muttaja]

Zoomis jooksen ma stabiilselt naamoodi :D

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $240.85 (240.9 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $106.98 (107 bb)
MP: $223.86 (223.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $131.85 (131.9 bb)
BTN: $223.20 (223.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 K 3 K
UTG calls $1, MP folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($15) K 6 A (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $9.54, UTG folds, Hero calls $9.54

Turn: ($34.08) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $25, Hero raises to $107.55, BTN raises to $190.10, Hero calls $10.26 and is all-in

River: ($269.70) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $269.70 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: K 6 A 3 T
Hero showed 6 K 3 K and lost (-$131.85 net)
BTN showed A A 7 5 and won $266.90 ($135.05 net)

[muttaja]

Reg, 3b SB pealt 26%

[muttaja]

:D

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $105.12 (105.1 bb)
BB: $142.70 (142.7 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $134.03 (134 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 7 K 8
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2, BB folds

Flop: ($6) 8 7 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3

Turn: ($12) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB raises to $21.73, Hero calls $13.73

River: ($55.46) Q (2 players)
SB bets $42.37, Hero raises to $106.80 and is all-in, SB calls $35.52 and is all-in

Results: $211.24 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 7 7 A Q
SB showed 3 A 9 A and won $208.44 ($103.32 net)
Hero showed 8 7 K 8 and won $0.00 (-$105.12 net)

[muttaja]

Hittisin kõik, mis hittida andis :P

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $122.72 (122.7 bb)
BB: $136.25 (136.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $211.19 (211.2 bb)
BTN: $46.63 (46.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 A A Q
Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) T 4 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.97, BB calls $3.97

Turn: ($14.44) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $11.58, BB calls $11.58

River: ($37.60) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $25.32, BB calls $25.32

Results: $88.24 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: T 4 2 2 2
BB mucked K 5 J 6 and lost (-$43.87 net)
Hero showed 2 A A Q and won $86.74 ($42.87 net)

[muttaja]

Vasakul oli uhamismaias fish. Rumal lugu... Tagantjärele mõeldes regularil maja tõenäoliselt pole, sest oleks selle vast ise välja bettinud. Aga kuna plaan oli nihu läind, siis mõistus tol hetkel nii kõrmelt ei töötanud :(

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $116.74 (116.7 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $196.70 (196.7 bb)
MP: $186.27 (186.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)
BTN: $244.98 (245 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 4 6 A
UTG folds, MP raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, BTN raises to $15.50, 2 folds, MP calls $12, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($48) 2 9 5 (3 players)
MP checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $22.92, MP calls $22.92, Hero calls $22.92

Turn: ($116.76) Q (3 players)
MP checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($116.76) Q (3 players)
MP checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $113.96, MP calls $113.96, Hero folds

Results: $344.68 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 9 5 Q Q
MP showed T K Q K and won $341.88 ($189.50 net)
Hero mucked 8 4 6 A and lost (-$38.42 net)
BTN showed 9 7 8 T and lost (-$152.38 net)