[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

Ja tänased käed.

Preflop 25/8; postflop agressiivsus suht olematu. Keeruline oli teda mingi käe peale panna, sest flopil oli ju mastitõmme ja üldjuhul setti mängitakse säänsel juhul agressiivselt, ent sama keeruline oli teda ka bluffi peale panna.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $288.12 (144.1 bb)
BB: $251.39 (125.7 bb)
UTG: $491.19 (245.6 bb)
MP: $100 (50 bb)
CO: $211.74 (105.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($12) 6 8 K (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7.77, SB folds, BB calls $7.77

Turn: ($27.54) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $21.21, BB raises to $66, Hero folds

Results: $69.96 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 8 K 9
Hero mucked 8 9 and lost (-$32.98 net)
BB mucked and won $67.16 ($34.18 net)


Teine "kartlik" fold ka. Ei tahtnud lasta variatsiooni suureks minna. Kui vastase 4bet% oli arvestatav, siis tean omast kogemusest, palju ma olen puhtalt % vaadates orki lennanud. Üldjuhul ma ikka shoven AK-ga, aga kõhutunne käskis foldida. Suht hea agro reg oli ka. Minu fold to 4bet on kuskil 40%, niiet ekspluateeritav vast mitte.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $201 (100.5 bb)
SB: $225.68 (112.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $203.42 (101.7 bb)
MP: $254.43 (127.2 bb)
CO: $215.61 (107.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, 2 folds, SB calls $5, Hero raises to $26, MP raises to $55, 2 folds

Results: $58 pot
MP mucked and won $58 ($32 net)


Vist on standard? Samas mõne räige niti vastu suudaks vast isegi foldida. Aga konkreetne ekseplar oli blindidelt väga vihane, nt eilsest mäletan 87s 5bet allinni.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $468.75 (234.4 bb)
BB: $218.63 (109.3 bb)
UTG: $213.76 (106.9 bb)
MP: $381.28 (190.6 bb)
CO: $322.44 (161.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO folds, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $43, 2 folds, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, SB calls $157

Flop: ($408) 9 7 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($408) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($408) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $408 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 7 5 2 6
Hero showed Q Q and won $405.20 ($205.20 net)
SB showed A K and lost (-$200 net)


Ei tea, miks vastane end seal ära stäkkis. Suht rumal tegu. Ainuke asi, mille vastu see on mõistlik, oligi täpselt see, mis mul oli.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $224.69 (112.3 bb)
SB: $492.20 (246.1 bb)
BB: $934.85 (467.4 bb)
UTG: $418.95 (209.5 bb)
MP: $339.10 (169.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $6, SB folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($19) J 2 9 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13.31, BTN raises to $26.62, BB folds, Hero raises to $180, BTN raises to $218.69 and is all-in, Hero calls $14 and is all-in

Turn: ($407) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Villane oli 18/13 nitt. Postflop passiivne. Ma isegi ei tea, mille peale ma ta riveril panin. Vb 98 vms. Suht vähe käsi on, millega ta turni callib ja riveril betib. Ainult mast pmst, kui ta just midagi ei slowplayinud. Üli loogiline oleks, et chekib 90% oma käest riveril järele.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $297.95 (149 bb)
Hero (SB): $207 (103.5 bb)
BB: $80.89 (40.4 bb)
UTG: $401.49 (200.7 bb)
MP: $132 (66 bb)
CO: $254.26 (127.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T K
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $16, BB folds, BTN calls $12

Flop: ($34) T J 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($34) J (2 players)
Hero bets $22.22, BTN calls $22.22

River: ($78.44) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $54, Hero calls $54

Results: $186.44 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T J 9 J 6
BTN showed A Q and lost (-$92.22 net)
Hero showed T K and won $183.64 ($91.42 net)


Hea, kui ennast leveldatakse =)

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $151.45 (75.7 bb)
SB: $224.81 (112.4 bb)
BB: $39.10 (19.6 bb)
UTG: $260.06 (130 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A 4
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN folds, SB calls $5, BB folds

Flop: ($14) 8 2 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8.88, SB calls $8.88

Turn: ($31.76) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $21.21, SB calls $21.21

River: ($74.18) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $54.54, SB calls $54.54

Results: $183.26 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 2 8 A 5
SB mucked 6 6 and lost (-$90.63 net)
Hero showed A 4 and won $180.46 ($89.83 net)


Sama siin:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $231.79 (115.9 bb)
SB: $86.32 (43.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $206 (103 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)
MP: $26.31 (13.2 bb)
CO: $100 (50 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 3
4 folds, SB raises to $4.20, Hero calls $2.20

Flop: ($8.40) 6 2 3 (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($16.40) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero raises to $24, SB raises to $78.12, Hero calls $54.12

River: ($172.64) 2 (2 players)

Results: $172.64 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 2 3 6 2
SB showed K 2 and lost (-$86.32 net)
Hero showed 3 3 and won $169.84 ($83.52 net)


River: ($407) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $407 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 2 9 5 4
BTN showed A J and won $0.00 (-$200 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$6 net)
Hero showed T 9 and won $404.20 ($204.20 net)

[qjet]

AK käes, miks foldid? Ise veel ütlesid, et suht hea agro reg, siis ma võtaks arvesse selle, kui lightilt sa ise squeezid oma blinde.

[muttaja]

Ma ütlengi, et see fold oli erandlik, ent tunne oli lihtsalt säänne. Ma eeldasin ka, et vastane ehk teab, et ma 4betile foldin suht vähe, seega peaks tema 4bet range olema üpris tugev.

[fyte]

Ma eeldasin ka, et vastane ehk teab, et ma 4betile foldin suht vähe, seega peaks tema 4bet range olema üpris tugev.

Liigne leveldamine obv. ;D nl100s on nt 4b-fold üsnagi tavaline muuv, mõnikord pannakse lausa üle kolmandiku stackist sisse..

[muttaja]

Kas teil HEM2 hud töötab Zoomi mängides? Või polegi HEMi poolt veel uuendust tehtud?

[Mrt1989]

Isegi HEM 1 töötab ju .

EDIT: Või on midagi vahepeal juhtunud ,st pole 2 päeva mänginud :D

[rrrr]

HEM1 HUD ei tööta Starsi Zoomis. Statid vahetuvad aga näitavad 2 kuni x vanustes kätes olnud mängijaid. Raporteerisin HEMi foorumisse, vastust pole veel saanud.

[muttaja]

2+2 foorumist ei saanud ka vastust... Järelikult on viga ikkagi minu mingites seadetes. Kuigi 2 päeva tagasi mängisin ja siis kõik töötas ning pole ühetgi seadet muutnud, pole midagi vahepeal installinud jne. Lauad leiab ilusti üles, "Active Session" all näitab ka ilusti laudu, käsi laeb jne. Aga HUD statse ei kuva, ütleb vaid "Wiating for hands...".

Nüüd läkski tänane päev aia taha. Proovisin tavalist nl200 6maxi aga tundust harjunatu ning peale algset edu lõpetasin ikka väikeses miinuses. Kahjuks jäi nii ka kuu eesmärk ehl nl500 välja jõudmine täitmata.

[ristijeesus]

Kui sul on starsi shortcut pokerstarsupdate.exe, siis edaspidi selliste jamade vältimiseks muuda see ära pokerstars.exe-ks. Mul ka läpakal tegi uuenduse ära ja ei toiminud hud enam, õnneks lauakal oli shortcut muudetud ja kõik kombes.

Edit: proovi kas hakkab tööle kui lisada Holdem Manager/Config/ZoomTables.xml faili selline rida <ZoomTable Name="Holmia" TableSize="6" GameType="ZoomNLHoldem" PokerGame="TexasHoldem"/>

[ranka]

Kui sul on starsi shortcut pokerstarsupdate.exe, siis edaspidi selliste jamade vältimiseks muuda see ära pokerstars.exe-ks. Mul ka läpakal tegi uuenduse ära ja ei toiminud hud enam, õnneks lauakal oli shortcut muudetud ja kõik kombes.

Oled sa selles nii kindel? Ma ei ole ise kasutanud seda süsteemi kunagi ja seetõttu ei ole eriti kursis aga nagu jooksis vahepeal PokerStarsi teadaanne kuskilt läbi, et edaspidi on update pokkeritoa tööle panemiselt alati sunnitud tegevus ja sellest kõrvale hiilida ei saa.

[ristijeesus]

Nagu näha, siis vähemalt praegu küll veel saab. Läpakal stars versioon 5.856, lauakal 5.702

[muttaja]

Nädal aega ei mänginud ja kohe paari minutiga tõmmatakse tuju maha. Kõige pealt uhan J8s vs 99 nuppe preflop ja saan nii kaela, et mõnituseks flopil J8x...

Ja siis säärane pask:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $142 (71 bb)
SB: $276.07 (138 bb)
Hero (BB): $208.32 (104.2 bb)
UTG: $339.58 (169.8 bb)
MP: $131.70 (65.9 bb)
CO: $234.98 (117.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
2 folds, CO raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16, CO calls $12

Flop: ($33) 6 J A (2 players)
Hero bets $15.76, CO calls $15.76

Turn: ($64.52) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $44.44, CO raises to $88.88, Hero raises to $176.56 and is all-in, CO calls $87.68

River: ($417.64) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $417.64 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 J A 4 8
Hero showed A K and lost (-$208.32 net)
CO showed 8 8 and won $414.84 ($206.52 net)

[muttaja]

Õnneks vastase dementne line vedas teda alt:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $316.58 (158.3 bb)
SB: $378.79 (189.4 bb)
BB: $490.94 (245.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $204 (102 bb)
MP: $444.01 (222 bb)
CO: $58.60 (29.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q A
Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BTN calls $6, SB raises to $10, BB calls $8, Hero raises to $34, BTN folds, SB raises to $60, BB folds, Hero calls $26

Flop: ($136) 9 A 8 (2 players)
SB bets $52, Hero raises to $144 and is all-in, SB calls $92

Turn: ($424) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($424) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $424 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 A 8 T 5
SB showed K K and lost (-$204 net)
Hero showed Q A and won $421.20 ($217.20 net)

[muttaja]

No kuda mängida nelikut... Ehk riveril raise on ilmne nelik, kus foldiakse vast ka ässad ja kunnid. Samas on see siis hea bluffi koht?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $225.24 (112.6 bb)
SB: $229.50 (114.8 bb)
BB: $501.59 (250.8 bb)
UTG: $560 (280 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J A
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO folds, Hero calls $6, SB folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($19) J J J (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets $13, Hero calls $13, BB folds

Turn: ($45) 4 (2 players)
MP bets $30, Hero calls $30

River: ($105) 3 (2 players)
MP bets $69, Hero raises to $176.24 and is all-in, MP folds

Results: $243 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J J J 4 3
Hero mucked J A and won $240.20 ($122.20 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$118 net)

[Jäämees]

Olen küll noob, aga kas parem flop/turn üle tõsta ei ole sellise boardiga?

[muttaja]

Hehe

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $201 (100.5 bb)
SB: $153.30 (76.7 bb)
BB: $211.31 (105.7 bb)
UTG: $231.20 (115.6 bb)
MP: $203.04 (101.5 bb)
CO: $94 (47 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($12) 7 2 K (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $8, Hero raises to $24, SB folds, BB raises to $48, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($108) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($108) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Results: $108 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 2 K 8 3
Hero showed 7 A and won $105.20 ($53.20 net)
BB showed 9 A and lost (-$52 net)

[muttaja]

Krt uus miinuspäeva rekord on tulekul. Tean juba ette, et ässad ei pea...

[fyte]

No kuda mängida nelikut... Ehk riveril raise on ilmne nelik, kus foldiakse vast ka ässad ja kunnid. Samas on see siis hea bluffi koht?

Paistab, et küsid alati selliseid küsimusi, mis on täiesti villain-dependant. Või ongi enamasti suht tundmatu vastas?

[muttaja]

10 mintiste vahedega:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $281.09 (140.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $205.78 (102.9 bb)
BB: $250.78 (125.4 bb)
UTG: $213.56 (106.8 bb)
MP: $282.37 (141.2 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
UTG raises to $5, 3 folds, Hero raises to $18, BB folds, UTG raises to $38, Hero raises to $205.78 and is all-in, UTG calls $167.78

Flop: ($413.56) T 5 J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($413.56) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($413.56) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $413.56 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 5 J 8 9
Hero showed A A and lost (-$205.78 net)
UTG showed Q Q and won $410.76 ($204.98 net)


ja teine:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $152 (76 bb)
SB: $352.30 (176.2 bb)
BB: $251.18 (125.6 bb)
Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
MP: $267.76 (133.9 bb)
CO: $204.42 (102.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $6, MP calls $6, CO calls $6, BTN folds, SB raises to $26, BB folds, Hero raises to $54, 2 folds, SB raises to $352.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $146 and is all-in

Flop: ($414.00) 5 2 K (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($414.00) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($414.00) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $414.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 2 K Q Q
SB showed Q Q and won $411.20 ($211.20 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$200 net)

[muttaja]

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $94.58 (47.3 bb)
SB: $295.44 (147.7 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $370.32 (185.2 bb)
MP: $98.70 (49.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 T
UTG folds, MP raises to $5, Hero calls $5, 3 folds

Flop: ($13) T 8 5 (2 players)
MP bets $7, Hero raises to $20, MP calls $13

Turn: ($53) 7 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $16.66, MP raises to $73.70 and is all-in, Hero calls $57.04

River: ($200.40) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $200.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 8 5 7 9
MP showed 9 T and won $197.60 ($98.90 net)
Hero mucked 8 T and lost (-$98.70 net)