[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

No see on juba "mida iganes"... -9 buyinni :/

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $283.66 (141.8 bb)
BB: $286.56 (143.3 bb)
UTG: $323.72 (161.9 bb)
MP: $287.83 (143.9 bb)
CO: $100 (50 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
UTG raises to $6, MP calls $6, CO folds, Hero raises to $26, 2 folds, UTG calls $20, MP folds

Flop: ($61) K T 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $33.33, UTG calls $33.33

Turn: ($127.66) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $33.33, UTG raises to $76, Hero raises to $140.67 and is all-in, UTG calls $64.67

River: ($409.00) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $409.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: K T 9 7 K
Hero showed A A and lost (-$200 net)
UTG showed 6 8 and won $406.20 ($206.20 net)

[muttaja]

Grr... Kuda ma nüüd mindseti tagasi saan?



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[Oliverk]

Ainult mina näen muttaja teemas tikutopsisuuruseid pilte või teised ka?
pane ikka natuke suuremaid pilte, et summasid ka ikka välja loeks.

[isutuba]

ainult sina vist ,mul on pildid fine

[muttaja]

Pärast reedest hävingut läksin laupäeval ekspromt raamatupoodi ja ostsin eestikeelse "The Poker Mindseti". Ootasin enamat. Seda, mida ma kõike valesti teen, tean ma isegi. Aga kuidas seda muuta, see on keeruline. Ja tundub, et tõlkes on ikka midagi kaduma ka läinud.

Samas vb raamatu toel suutsin end täna kokku võtta ja mängida 3 tundi ilma kordagi graafikut vaatamata. Olen endaga rahul. Samas mõtlesin ikka, et palju ma kasumis või kahjumis olen.

Kui 3 tundi täis sai, arvasin, et olen ca 2,5 BI kahjumis, samas umbes sama palju ka alla EV jooksnud. Tuli aga meeldiva üllatusena välja, et olen pea 2 BI plussis ning jooksin aint pool BI alla EV. Jällegi great success.

Arvasin, et mängisin päris hästi, ent kui tagantjärele käsi vaadata, siis olen ikka päris palju vusserdanud ka.

Jäin hätta, kui vastased callisid 4beti:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $1,154.09 (577 bb)
SB: $177.53 (88.8 bb)
BB: $466.21 (233.1 bb)
Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
MP: $102.57 (51.3 bb)
CO: $183.48 (91.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $6, MP folds, CO raises to $21, 3 folds, Hero raises to $44, CO calls $23

Flop: ($91) T 6 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $44.10, Hero raises to $156 and is all-in, CO calls $95.38 and is all-in

Turn: ($369.96) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($369.96) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $369.96 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 6 3 Q 8
Hero showed A K and lost (-$183.48 net)
CO showed 8 6 and won $367.16 ($183.68 net)

Teine ka. Nutune värk. Oleks võinud muidugi riveri beti callimata jätta.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $161.71 (80.9 bb)
Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $197.10 (98.6 bb)
MP: $160.62 (80.3 bb)
CO: $272.34 (136.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
UTG raises to $5, MP folds, CO raises to $16, BTN folds, Hero raises to $42, 2 folds, CO calls $26

Flop: ($91) 5 A Q (2 players)
Hero bets $32.10, CO calls $32.10

Turn: ($155.20) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($155.20) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $38, Hero calls $38

Results: $231.20 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 A Q 2 3
Hero mucked K K and lost (-$112.10 net)
CO showed Q Q and won $228.40 ($116.30 net)

Ent samas juhtus ka häid asju, kui vastased dementse liini peale läksid:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $178.78 (89.4 bb)
BB: $222.18 (111.1 bb)
UTG: $446.40 (223.2 bb)
MP: $345.69 (172.8 bb)
CO: $104 (52 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO folds, Hero raises to $18, 2 folds, MP raises to $37.65, Hero raises to $63.30, MP calls $25.65

Flop: ($129.60) 8 7 A (2 players)
MP bets $48.85, Hero calls $48.85

Turn: ($227.30) A (2 players)
MP bets $88, Hero calls $87.85 and is all-in

River: ($403) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 7 A A K
Hero showed K K and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)
MP showed 6 6 and lost (-$200 net)


Ei suutnud kudiagi vastast maja peale panna. Oleks oodanud QQ-ga 3betti, ehk suht ainuke võimalus on, kui ta 99-ga slowb või hittis mastirea. Lootsin mastilt või realt valuet saada. Teen sest käes vast omad järeldused, et alati ei saa valuet välja pigistada sealt, kus seda pole.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $277.25 (138.6 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
MP: $211.90 (106 bb)
CO: $728.29 (364.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A 4
Hero raises to $6, MP folds, CO calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($15) 9 K 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($15) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12, Hero raises to $34, CO raises to $70, Hero raises to $114, CO calls $44

River: ($243) J (2 players)
Hero bets $80 and is all-in, CO calls $80

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 K 9 Q J
Hero showed A 4 and lost (-$200 net)
CO showed Q Q and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)


Turni mastitõmme oli liiga ahvatlev.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $203 (101.5 bb)
SB: $389.70 (194.9 bb)
BB: $262.31 (131.2 bb)
UTG: $167.51 (83.8 bb)
MP: $223.89 (111.9 bb)
CO: $207 (103.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 K
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $14.10, BB folds, Hero calls $10.10

Flop: ($30.20) J T 9 (2 players)
SB bets $21.30, Hero calls $21.30

Turn: ($72.80) J (2 players)
SB bets $38.86, Hero calls $38.86

River: ($150.52) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $128.74 and is all-in, SB calls $128.74

Results: $408 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J T 9 J 5
Hero showed 7 K and lost (-$203 net)
SB showed 9 9 and won $405.20 ($202.20 net)



Taaskord rigged pstars, ehk turni hititakse kahe audine. Ise hitin ka tihtilugu.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $122.44 (61.2 bb)
SB: $612.68 (306.3 bb)
BB: $250.20 (125.1 bb)
UTG: $269.43 (134.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $203 (101.5 bb)
CO: $338.69 (169.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T 8
UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, SB calls $5, BB folds

Flop: ($20) T T Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($20) 2 (3 players)
SB bets $14, Hero calls $14, BTN folds

River: ($48) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $38, Hero raises to $100, SB calls $62

Results: $248 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T T Q 2 4
SB showed 2 2 and won $245.20 ($125.20 net)
Hero showed T 8 and lost (-$120 net)


Üpris nitt oli vastas. WSWSF oli seniste käte põhjal madal.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $119.46 (59.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
BB: $156.30 (78.2 bb)
UTG: $253.51 (126.8 bb)
MP: $110.77 (55.4 bb)
CO: $560.01 (280 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q J
2 folds, CO raises to $6, BTN folds, Hero calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($18) 2 8 T (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $12, Hero calls $12, BB folds

Turn: ($42) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $22, Hero calls $22

River: ($86) T (2 players)
Hero bets $52.40, CO raises to $164, Hero folds

Results: $190.80 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 8 T 4 T
Hero mucked Q J and lost (-$92.40 net)
CO mucked and won $188.00 ($95.60 net)



Ja teine pmst samasugune käsi. Kas ma mängin neid kuidagi halvasti või tõesti koperdasin lihtsalt õnnetult nutsu otsa? Too tüüp ei olnud reg, samas kohutav maniakk ka ei tundunud.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $86.95 (43.5 bb)
SB: $389.57 (194.8 bb)
BB: $293.97 (147 bb)
Hero (UTG): $264.20 (132.1 bb)
MP: $382.51 (191.3 bb)
CO: $493.60 (246.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T J
Hero raises to $6, MP folds, CO calls $6, BTN calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($21) 2 2 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $12.21, CO calls $12.21, BTN folds

Turn: ($45.42) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12, Hero calls $12

River: ($69.42) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $44.44, CO raises to $220, Hero folds

Results: $158.30 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 2 3 4 6
Hero mucked T J and lost (-$74.65 net)
CO mucked and won $155.50 ($80.85 net)

[muttaja]

Üks kaheldav käsi veel, aga samas vb lihtsalt cooler.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $100 (50 bb)
SB: $698.82 (349.4 bb)
BB: $153.18 (76.6 bb)
UTG: $222.56 (111.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $209 (104.5 bb)
CO: $239.66 (119.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6 A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO calls $6, 2 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($19) A 7 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $12, BB folds, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($43) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $33, Hero raises to $84, CO calls $51

River: ($211) J (2 players)
Hero bets $107 and is all-in, CO calls $107

Results: $425 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 7 2 6 J
Hero showed 6 A and lost (-$209 net)
CO showed 2 2 and won $422.20 ($213.20 net)

[muttaja]

Oskab keegi mulle mingi lingi anda, mis on heade mängijate winrate erinevatel positsoonidel. Ja ka VPIP&PFR suhe erinevate positsioonide vahel.

[muttaja]

Suutsin taas sessiooni nii mängida, et tegelesin ainult ja ainult mängimisega. A sain nii palju peksa, et teadsin, et olen rängalt miinuses ja see natuke segas. Kuu nüüd räigelt miinuses, oma osa ses muidugi ka 10BI alla EV jooksmises. Samas mängin hästi :)

Hiljem ka vb tänased käed, hetkel ei jõua.

[muttaja]

Tegin õhtul veel ühe sessiooni. Taas alla EV :/. Kokku 4 sessiooni nüüd juunis mängitud, kõik alla EV jooksnud, kolm neist ka miinuses.

Täna tegin kaks natuke idiootset kätt ka. Tegelikult oli mõlema eesmärk vastast bluffima saada, aga noh, tuli välja, et neil suht nutsud käes. Ehk ma vast üritan natuke liialt valuet võtta, kus näen seda vähegi olemas.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $308.76 (154.4 bb)
SB: $130.46 (65.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $239.41 (119.7 bb)
UTG: $186.71 (93.4 bb)
MP: $190.45 (95.2 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 8
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero raises to $16, BTN calls $12

Flop: ($33) 3 2 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $22, Hero raises to $58, BTN calls $36

Turn: ($149) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($149) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $234.76 and is all-in, Hero calls $165.41 and is all-in

Results: $479.82 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 2 3 6 T
BTN showed T T and won $477.02 ($237.61 net)
Hero showed 8 8 and lost (-$239.41 net)


Ja teine käsi, kus ma päris ausalt lootsin ja ootasin vastase shovet:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $209.34 (104.7 bb)
SB: $185.50 (92.8 bb)
BB: $277.61 (138.8 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $206 (103 bb)
CO: $616.58 (308.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T Q
UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO raises to $14, 3 folds, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($31) 8 5 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $22.20, Hero calls $22.20

Turn: ($75.40) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($75.40) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $22, CO raises to $237, Hero calls $147.80 and is all-in

Results: $415 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 5 Q 8 4
Hero mucked T Q and lost (-$206 net)
CO showed 9 6 and won $412.20 ($206.20 net)


Ülejäänud suured kaotused olid kas ausad flipid või badbeatid nagu AAvs88; KKvsJJ; või ka 3bet potis 99vsAA A94 laual...


Mai kuu graafik seni siis väga nutune. Samas õnneks olen pärast esimest suurt kaotust suutnud tilti peaaegu vältida ja lepin vaikselt, et ilma suure variatsioonita vast 6maxi ei biidigi. Vähemalt mina oma loogikaga küll mitte.



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[muttaja]

Positiivse noodine lõpetuseks ka üks käsi, kus call töötas :)

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $789.40 (394.7 bb)
SB: $198 (99 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $1,273.11 (636.6 bb)
MP: $313.26 (156.6 bb)
CO: $546.24 (273.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T 6
3 folds, BTN raises to $6, SB calls $5, Hero raises to $22, BTN folds, SB calls $16

Flop: ($50) A 7 J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $23.87, SB calls $23.87

Turn: ($97.74) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $21, SB calls $21

River: ($139.74) A (2 players)
SB bets $66, Hero calls $66

Results: $271.74 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 7 J 6 A
SB showed K Q and lost (-$132.87 net)
Hero showed T 6 and won $268.94 ($136.07 net)

[runnar]

Täna tegin kaks natuke idiootset kätt ka. Tegelikult oli mõlema eesmärk vastast bluffima saada, aga noh, tuli välja, et neil suht nutsud käes. Ehk ma vast üritan natuke liialt valuet võtta, kus näen seda vähegi olemas.

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[rrrr]

HM2 graafiku disain on küll õudus kuubis (kribu ja värvide poolest loetamatu) aga kas seal HM2-s võrreldes HM1-ga midagi head ka on, mida 6-max Zoomis kasutada?

[muttaja]

Sisuliselt ei ole. Teoreetiliselt saad küll vaadata statse, kuidas villane konreetselt sinu vastu on mänginud, aga üldjuhul on see sample nii väike, et sellele tuginedes võib pigem kahju kui kasu saada.

[muttaja]

Kohe alustan kolmetunnise sessiooniga. Vaim on küll valmis jatunne tugev hoolimata varasematest kaotustest. Näis aint, mida EV teeb :P

[muttaja]

20 minti mängin veel ja olen vist nullis, aga pean mainima, et postitsioonist min 4bet for victory :)

[muttaja]

Sõnusin nullis olemise ära; über niti vastu just AA vs KK riverisse K...

[muttaja]

Mina lendan vastase top range otsa ja vastased lendavad minu top range otsa. Erinevus on see, et nemad võidavad, mina aga mitte. Nukker on mu elu.

[muttaja]

Nojah, sama rida siis jätkub nagu seni: -450 ja ev +400.

Teadjamad mehed võiksid seletada, kuidas selliste tulemuste peale mitte tilti minna, kui ma tean, et ma biidin ja tegelikult on hetkel ka päris heas vormis. Ent iga päev sama jama ajab ka kõige selgema pea hulluks.

[udikaz]

vb tõmbaks vahelduseks tsipa nitimaks. ei tekitaks endale nii palju mõtlemist vajavaid olukordi. saaks kindluse uuesti kätte. just ideo tho.

[winnieTHEpooh]

ma võtaks paar päeva-nädala vabaks, või kui rolli+motti on siis grindi läbi see variatsioon, teeb ju tugevamaks sind või võta aega maha veits ja vaata käsi üle, mängi mõni mtt vms.. vähemalt mina teeks emba-kumba