[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

Ei otsigi mingeid vabandusi. Panin end vastase situatsiooni.

[muttaja]

Tagasi nl50. Vaatan, et ilma boonuseid arvestamata nüüd kogu mu Pokerstarsi teenistus ka miinuses. Nukker värk ja tuju on null. Saaks ma siis vähemalt aru, mida ma valesti teen :)

(peale selle, et mängin liiga palju)

[Potsataja]

ZOOM tundub olema ikka puhtakujuline "rake generator". Ma eriti ringi ei rända ehk kas näiteks 2+2´s on graphe, mis suure kätearvu korral näitavad ka suurt (2,5BB/100+) winrate´i?

[muttaja]

Godmodesin natuke nl50 ja peab ütlema, et see teeb tuju heaks. Peale selle, et ma jooksin nutsult (miks selline asi peab level alla tulles olema, aga mitte level üles minnes:P), on ka vastased weak-tightid ehk exploititavad. Tõenäoliselt öeldakse seda muidugi alati, kui levelis alla tullakse, vahet pole, kõrge või madal see level varem oli.

Paar näidet godmodest:

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $67.38 (134.8 bb)
SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $49.44 (98.9 bb)
UTG: $85.76 (171.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $100.59 (201.2 bb)
CO: $22.25 (44.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A 5
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) 3 4 7 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.40, BTN folds, BB raises to $11.80, Hero calls $8.40

Turn: ($28.35) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $20.50, Hero raises to $42.50, BB calls $15.64 and is all-in

River: ($100.63) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $100.63 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 3 4 7 2 J
BB showed 7 4 and lost (-$49.44 net)
Hero showed A 5 and won $98.13 ($48.69 net)

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
SB: $65.64 (131.3 bb)
BB: $72.65 (145.3 bb)
UTG: $58.14 (116.3 bb)
MP: $145.58 (291.2 bb)
CO: $64.34 (128.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 6
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3.50, BB folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 2 3 Q (2 players)
SB bets $3.58, Hero calls $3.58

Turn: ($14.66) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($28.66) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $15.25, Hero raises to $35.92 and is all-in, SB calls $20.67

Results: $100.50 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 2 3 Q 5 9
Hero showed 4 6 and won $98 ($48 net)
SB showed 9 Q and lost (-$50 net)

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $50.50 (101 bb)
SB: $46.35 (92.7 bb)
BB: $66.84 (133.7 bb)
UTG: $60.31 (120.6 bb)
MP: $67.44 (134.9 bb)
CO: $135.36 (270.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

Flop: ($2.50) J 9 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.50) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.50) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.88, SB raises to $7.76, Hero raises to $48 and is all-in, SB calls $36.09 and is all-in

Results: $93.20 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: J 9 5 2 A
Hero showed 4 A and won $90.70 ($44.35 net)
SB showed 8 7 and lost (-$46.35 net)

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $70.16 (140.3 bb)
SB: $56.58 (113.2 bb)
BB: $137.28 (274.6 bb)
UTG: $61.13 (122.3 bb)
MP: $44.36 (88.7 bb)
CO: $50.75 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 8
UTG folds, MP raises to $1, CO folds, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $2.50, MP calls $2

Flop: ($9.25) 5 4 2 (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $5.55, BB calls $5.55, MP folds

Turn: ($20.35) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13.65, BB calls $13.65

River: ($47.65) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $47.96 and is all-in, BB folds

Results: $47.65 pot ($2.14 rake)
Final Board: 5 4 2 6 K
Hero mucked 7 8 and won $45.51 ($23.31 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$22.20 net)

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Ja üks call ka. Vastase kohta oli 3 kätt infot: VPIP 3/3; PFR 3/2; WSWSF 2/2; raise CB 1/1. Sellest piisas.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $82.11 (164.2 bb)
SB: $78.70 (157.4 bb)
BB: $62.52 (125 bb)
UTG: $94.89 (189.8 bb)
MP: $47.64 (95.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $95.04 (190.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 5 Q K (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BTN raises to $5, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($13.75) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $13, Hero calls $13

River: ($39.75) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $62.61 and is all-in, Hero calls $62.61

Results: $164.97 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 5 Q K 6 9
BTN showed T Q and lost (-$82.11 net)
Hero showed K Q and won $162.47 ($80.36 net)

[muttaja]

2 vusserdatud kätt ka:

Riveril oleks iga ärtu korral ka leadinud. Sitasti mängitud eniveis. Riveril callisin selle pärast, et villase raise oli kuskil 0,2 sekki pärast minu betti. Ei uskunud, et betsizingu jne peale üldse ei mõelda nutsu hittides.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $51.22 (102.4 bb)
SB: $50.50 (101 bb)
BB: $117.51 (235 bb)
UTG: $35.62 (71.2 bb)
Hero (MP): $94.19 (188.4 bb)
CO: $14.36 (28.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 8
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 6 2 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.75) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($12.75) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $9.13, BTN raises to $45.22 and is all-in, Hero calls $36.09

Results: $103.19 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 6 2 5 5 9
BTN showed 9 9 and won $100.69 ($49.47 net)
Hero showed 7 8 and lost (-$51.22 net)

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Turnil mul enam valikut polnud. Iga Jx oleks callinud, seetõttu bettisin suurelt. Ja JT; J2 ja 22 oleks ma nkn kinni maksnud. Natuke ülbeks läksin vast.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $72.91 (145.8 bb)
SB: $63.52 (127 bb)
BB: $55.92 (111.8 bb)
Hero (UTG): $66.15 (132.3 bb)
MP: $64.53 (129.1 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A J
Hero raises to $1.50, MP folds, CO calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) J 2 J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $2.72, BB calls $2.72, Hero raises to $9.98, CO calls $7.26, BB calls $7.26

Turn: ($34.69) T (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $54.67 and is all-in, CO calls $38.52 and is all-in, BB folds

River: ($111.73) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $111.73 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: J 2 J T 8
BB mucked and lost (-$11.48 net)
Hero showed A J and lost (-$50.00 net)
CO showed 2 2 and won $109.23 ($59.23 net)

[muttaja]

Päris kena käsi. UTG+1 oli fiššine.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $121.22 (121.2 bb)
SB: $162.35 (162.4 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $103.89 (103.9 bb)
CO: $262.91 (262.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 5
UTG raises to $3, MP calls $3, CO calls $3, Hero calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($13.50) 2 9 T (4 players)
UTG bets $8.77, MP calls $8.77, CO calls $8.77, Hero folds

Turn: ($39.81) 3 (3 players)
UTG bets $21.50, MP calls $21.50, CO raises to $251.14, UTG calls $66.73 and is all-in, MP calls $70.62 and is all-in

River: ($312.28) 6 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $312.28 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 9 T 3 6
UTG showed Q J and lost (-$100 net)
MP showed 6 9 and won $309.48 ($205.59 net)
CO showed Q T and won $0.00 (-$103.89 net)

[muttaja]

Leidsin vist ühe vea üles, mis downswingist tulenes. Nimelt tekkis komme Zoomis laust lahkuda ning uus aken avada, kui üle 120BB oli. Arvasin, et see vähendab variatsiooni. Tegelikult pole see tõsi. Pigem just suurendas, kuna preflop allinni situatsiooni oli palju rohkem. Eile-täna proovisin võimalusel alati positsioonist deepina 3bettida. Töötab! Samas ega ise oskaks ka midagi peale hakata OOP olles. KK stäkiks kuskil 180BB-ga küll ära, ent AK ja QQ... ?

[muttaja]

Jäin täna kuskil ühe BI plussi. Asi seegi. Mõned huvitavamad käed.

1. Flopil oli suht ohutu call, sest kahe vastase vastu villane vaevalt edasi bluffib. Riveri bet oli nii väike, et ei saanud callimata jätta - ühtegi drawd kokku ka ei tulnud.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $219.78 (219.8 bb)
SB: $108.97 (109 bb)
Hero (BB): $101 (101 bb)
UTG: $206.20 (206.2 bb)
MP: $235.22 (235.2 bb)
CO: $58.16 (58.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
3 folds, BTN raises to $2, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $9.21, BTN calls $7.21, SB calls $7.21

Flop: ($27.63) 5 6 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $15, SB calls $15, Hero calls $15

Turn: ($72.63) Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($72.63) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $25, SB calls $25, Hero calls $25

Results: $147.63 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 6 7 Q 5
BTN showed A T and lost (-$49.21 net)
SB showed 9 9 and lost (-$49.21 net)
Hero showed T T and won $144.83 ($95.62 net)

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2. Jooksis natuke juhe kokku. Tagant järele targana oleks vist kõige mõistlikum flopil shoveda?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $170.07 (170.1 bb)
SB: $107.87 (107.9 bb)
BB: $147.70 (147.7 bb)
UTG: $231.06 (231.1 bb)
MP: $127.38 (127.4 bb)
CO: $128.36 (128.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 9
UTG raises to $3, MP calls $3, CO calls $3, Hero raises to $12.21, 2 folds, UTG raises to $25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $42.42, UTG calls $17.42

Flop: ($92.34) A 3 A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $33.21, UTG calls $33.21

Turn: ($158.76) Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $28.98, UTG folds

Results: $158.76 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 3 A Q
Hero mucked A 9 and won $155.96 ($80.33 net)
UTG mucked and lost (-$75.63 net)

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3. Mis on villasel põhjus turni mitte bettida?! Reg oli ka.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $100 (100 bb)
SB: $48.01 (48 bb)
BB: $100.19 (100.2 bb)
UTG: $136.48 (136.5 bb)
MP: $89.94 (89.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $163.43 (163.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J T
UTG raises to $3, MP folds, Hero raises to $8.88, BTN raises to $18.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $9.62

Flop: ($41.50) 6 Q J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($41.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($41.50) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $14, Hero calls $14

Results: $69.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 Q J 2 Q
BTN showed A A and won $66.70 ($34.20 net)
Hero mucked J T and lost (-$32.50 net)

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4. Tahtsin fišši vastu turnil valuet võtta...

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $122.91 (122.9 bb)
SB: $96.76 (96.8 bb)
BB: $533.35 (533.4 bb)
UTG: $166.54 (166.5 bb)
MP: $103 (103 bb)
CO: $270.89 (270.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q 3
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $5, BB folds, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($11) 8 6 6 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($21) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.66, SB raises to $22, Hero calls $15.34

River: ($65) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $64.76 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $65.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 6 6 3 6
Hero mucked Q 3 and lost (-$32 net)
SB mucked and won $62.20 ($30.20 net)

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5. No tere talv keset lämbet suve

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $208.17 (208.2 bb)
SB: $50 (50 bb)
BB: $109.41 (109.4 bb)
UTG: $103.03 (103 bb)
MP: $185.90 (185.9 bb)
CO: $104.50 (104.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 9
2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $7.98, 2 folds, CO calls $4.98

Flop: ($17.46) 6 5 9 (2 players)
CO bets $3, Hero raises to $14.33, CO calls $11.33

Turn: ($46.12) 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($46.12) 7 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Results: $46.12 pot ($2.08 rake)
Final Board: 6 5 9 8 7
Hero mucked 7 9 and lost (-$22.31 net)
CO showed T A and won $44.04 ($21.73 net)

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6. Ja lõpetuseks kaks kätt, kus mina oleks villase asemel vist mõlemas foldi leidnud. Õnneks vähemalt 1:1

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $52.57 (52.6 bb)
SB: $156.12 (156.1 bb)
BB: $138.94 (138.9 bb)
UTG: $52.19 (52.2 bb)
MP: $96.37 (96.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $102.39 (102.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 6
UTG calls $1, MP raises to $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($15) 6 K 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $9.45, Hero calls $9.45, UTG folds

Turn: ($33.90) A (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($33.90) 2 (2 players)
MP bets $16.18, Hero raises to $88.44 and is all-in, MP calls $66.24

Results: $198.74 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 K 7 A 2
MP mucked A J and lost (-$96.37 net)
Hero showed 6 6 and won $195.94 ($99.57 net)

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7. Oleks pidanud flopil foldima. Siis oleks pidanud turnil foldima. River isegi kõige parem :)

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $120.54 (120.5 bb)
SB: $147.46 (147.5 bb)
BB: $132.97 (133 bb)
UTG: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
MP: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
CO: $56.50 (56.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 5
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO folds, Hero calls $3, SB folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.50) J 8 7 (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets $6, Hero calls $6, BB folds

Turn: ($21.50) J (2 players)
MP bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($41.50) 2 (2 players)
MP bets $20, Hero raises to $101.54 and is all-in, MP calls $59.50 and is all-in

Results: $200.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 8 7 J 2
Hero showed 6 5 and lost (-$98.50 net)
MP showed J A and won $197.70 ($99.20 net)

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Kommentaarid oodatud ja edaspidi hakkan paremini mängima! Siuke tunne on vähemalt.

[ristijeesus]

Teine käsi http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/39...b-pot-1220859/

[muttaja]

Njaa... Oleks pidanud flopi shovema :P

[pikk28]

oot 7-s käsi? mismõttes flopis foldima? miks sa pre callid siis üldse?

[muttaja]

Sest lisaks neljale annab ka 9 mulle rea, ent 1. rida on siis liiga ilmselge; 2. villasel võib parem rida olla. Lihtsalt suht nõme laud, kus midagi püüdma minna.

[Rigged]

NVM. Ma mängiks spekulatiivseid käsi vähem. Kui Sa hemi lahti võtad ja oma tulemusi vaatad, võid üllatuda.

[muttaja]

Kuda on öösel kõrtsust koju tulles mängida - et päev ikka natuke resultatiivne ka oleks:

EZ GAME, ehk pokker pole skillimäng

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $63.75 (127.5 bb)
SB: $55.92 (111.8 bb)
BB: $134.98 (270 bb)
UTG: $56.37 (112.7 bb)
MP: $78.02 (156 bb)
Hero (CO): $79.97 (159.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN folds, SB raises to $5, BB folds, Hero raises to $79.97 and is all-in, SB calls $50.92 and is all-in

Flop: ($112.34) 4 Q 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($112.34) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($112.34) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $112.34 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 4 Q 5 6 K
SB showed T T and lost (-$55.92 net)
Hero showed J J and won $109.84 ($53.92 net)

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $86.13 (172.3 bb)
SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $49.96 (99.9 bb)
UTG: $67.36 (134.7 bb)
MP: $50 (100 bb)
CO: $43.83 (87.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) T 2 T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.29, BB raises to $2.58, Hero raises to $8.87, BB raises to $15.16, Hero raises to $85.13, BB calls $33.80

Turn: ($100.17) 5 (2 players)
River: ($100.17) A (2 players)

Results: $100.17 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: T 2 T 5 A
Hero showed T Q and won $97.67 ($47.71 net)
BB showed T J and lost (-$49.96 net)

[muttaja]

Turgutan end vahelduseks videotega. Mõtlesin Cardrunnersile maksma hakata, ent kui ma pärast mitmendat katset isegi registreerimisega ühele poole ei saanud, siis andsin 30$ hoopis DeucesCracked'ile.

[Rigged]

Praegu on tulemas Ansky nl500 zoom seeria, ülinuts

[Roomet]

pokerstrategys treener nimega "pleno" läbib hetkel projekti, kus ta eesmärk on olla maailma suurima winratega mängija zoomis. Oma päevikus annab mõningaid soovitusi, kuidas zoomi mängida. läheneb mängule sinule sarnaselt loosilt ning agressiivselt. kui võimalus, kindlasti viska pilk peale.

[ranka]

Annad siis äkki päeviku aadressi ka?

[muttaja]

Praegu on tulemas Ansky nl500 zoom seeria, ülinuts

Jaa, selle vaatasin loomulikult esimesena ära :)

[Roomet]

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/t...hreadid=196519