[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[bounce]

Kuidas neljanda käe ise oleks vastase asemel mänginud?

[Mrt1989]

5. käsi , puhas bluff catch ju ? (99 checkiks riveri arvatavasti) ,TT , JJ vb isegi , (66 , 55 ei pruugi ka raiseda flopis) mängiks kätt sama moodi .

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Kuidas neljanda käe ise oleks vastase asemel mänginud?

Eks 3bet potis foldimine ole jah eilne päev. Ehk minulgi oleks samas olukorras väga raske stäkist mitte ilma jääda. Flopi betiks ja enamasti ei leiaks tõstele foldi.

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5. käsi , puhas bluff catch ju ? (99 checkiks riveri arvatavasti) ,TT , JJ vb isegi , (66 , 55 ei pruugi ka raiseda flopis) mängiks kätt sama moodi .

Minu poolt küll, aga mis võiks vastase riveri beti mõte olla? Ma eeldan, et seal võiks bettida kas tugevama või nõrgema käega, aga mitte sellise vahepealsega, millel on tegelikult korralik sd value olemas. Situatsioon ei ole ka selline, kus "ässad" foldima saaks, ehk kus oleks mõtet korralikku lehte bluffiks pöörata.

[KristjanLaas]

triple range merge:(

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Hakkab tulema!



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[muttaja]

Mõned käed ka:

1. Piinlik värk, et foldi ei leidnud. Olen käe mitu korda läbi mõelnud, ja tegelikult ei saa mitte kudiagi callida. Samas usun, et riveri raise on õige. Ainuke tüüp lauas, kes polnud fullringile omane totaalne nit, vb see eksitas ka natukene.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG+2: $104.50 (104.5 bb)
MP1: $136.39 (136.4 bb)
MP2: $109.32 (109.3 bb)
MP3: $110.45 (110.5 bb)
CO: $37 (37 bb)
BTN: $40 (40 bb)
SB: $51.50 (51.5 bb)
BB: $106.15 (106.2 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): $105.94 (105.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8 8
Hero raises to $3, 7 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 8 J 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.50) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($14.50) A (2 players)
BB bets $14, Hero raises to $38, BB raises to $99.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $60.94 and is all-in

Results: $212.38 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 J 5 5 A
BB showed J J and won $209.58 ($103.64 net)
Hero showed 8 8 and lost (-$105.94 net)


2. Teine väga piinlik käsi. Juhe jooksis kokku ja timebank hakkas lõppema ja siis vajutasin kärmelt nuppe. Raise kuskil 100 peale ja riveril 20-30% potti panek oleks palju parem. Kaotasin kuskil 100 dolsti vast. Ybervaalaga tegu btw.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1, $0.20 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $268.80 (268.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $264.12 (264.1 bb)
UTG: $102.10 (102.1 bb)
MP: $396.86 (396.9 bb)
CO: $250 (250 bb)
BTN: $404.29 (404.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 5
UTG raises to $3.70, 2 folds, BTN calls $3.70, SB folds, Hero calls $2.70

Flop: ($12.80) 4 3 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $8.25, BTN raises to $16.50, Hero calls $16.50, UTG folds

Turn: ($54.05) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $43, Hero raises to $243.72 and is all-in, BTN folds

Results: $140.05 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 3 2 9
Hero mucked 6 5 and won $137.25 ($73.85 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$63.40 net)



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3. Sama vaala vastu. Kas riveris peaks nuppe uhama?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1, $0.20 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $531.50 (531.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $336.67 (336.7 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $394.36 (394.4 bb)
BTN: $250 (250 bb)
SB: $204.70 (204.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J T
Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB folds

Flop: ($8.20) 8 6 7 (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($24.20) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $23, Hero calls $23

River: ($70.20) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $66.50, Hero calls $66.50

Results: $203.20 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 6 7 2 6
Hero showed J T and won $200.40 ($99.70 net)
SB showed 8 T and lost (-$100.70 net)



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4. Vaal, kes oli mind just eelmine käsi ka flopil min check-raisinud ning paar kätt varem sama asja turnis teinud. Kahjuks mul polnud kumbki kord võimalust talle vastu hakata ega maha callida. Shit happens, vist polegi muud selle käe kohta öelda.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (MP): $100 (100 bb)
CO: $55.98 (56 bb)
BTN: $112.20 (112.2 bb)
SB: $122.55 (122.6 bb)
BB: $40 (40 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB folds

Flop: ($7) J 7 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $28, Hero raises to $97 and is all-in, SB calls $69

Turn: ($201) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($201) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $201 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 7 7 4 Q
Hero mucked A K and lost (-$100 net)
SB showed 7 T and won $198.20 ($98.20 net)

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Jessikas :)

Preflop coldcallija oli siis too tüüp, kelle tõttu laud koos püsis. Rsk tõmbas mo vastu korra kenasti ära ja sai stäki üles; hiljem minu tõmbeda kokku ei tulnud. Aga eks see käsi korvas.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (UTG+1): $164.96 (165 bb)
UTG+2: $40 (40 bb)
MP1: $64.35 (64.4 bb)
MP2: $116.15 (116.2 bb)
MP3: $51.21 (51.2 bb)
CO: $108.50 (108.5 bb)
BTN: $79.20 (79.2 bb)
SB: $110.23 (110.2 bb)
BB: $38.50 (38.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T K
Hero raises to $3, UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $8, MP2 calls $8, 5 folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($25.50) K K 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks

Turn: ($25.50) K (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $11, MP2 raises to $25, Hero calls $25, MP1 raises to $56.35 and is all-in, MP2 calls $31.35, Hero raises to $156.96 and is all-in, MP2 calls $51.80

River: ($298.15) Q (3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $298.15 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: K K 9 K Q
Hero showed T K and won $295.35 ($179.20 net)
MP1 mucked A A and lost (-$64.35 net)
MP2 showed J J and lost (-$116.15 net)

[muttaja]

Üpris "möhh" XR, regular:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $109.26 (109.3 bb)
BB: $106 (106 bb)
MP: $25.71 (25.7 bb)
CO: $114.10 (114.1 bb)
Hero (BTN): $178.79 (178.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 2
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.50) J 2 4 (2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $7

Turn: ($24.50) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, BB calls $18

River: ($60.50) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB raises to $41, Hero calls $26

Results: $142.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 2 4 A 7
BB showed J K and lost (-$71 net)
Hero showed 7 2 and won $139.70 ($68.70 net)

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Liiga vähe käsi, ei saand aru, kas reg, aga multitables küll. Ta pidi ikka väga veendunud olema mu ilma ässata mastitõmbes.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $100 (100 bb)
SB: $101.23 (101.2 bb)
BB: $35.21 (35.2 bb)
UTG: $100.14 (100.1 bb)
MP: $105.39 (105.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $102.36 (102.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN folds, SB raises to $11, BB folds, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($23) 7 3 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $30, Hero raises to $91.36 and is all-in, SB calls $60.23

Turn: ($203.46) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($203.46) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $203.46 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 3 6 2 K
SB showed A 4 and lost (-$101.23 net)
Hero showed A Q and won $200.66 ($99.43 net)

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Kokkuvõtteks täna 3BI plussi ja kõvasti rake'i genetud. Oleks võinud aint paremini mängida.

[muttaja]

Üks lollakas fullringi käsi. Üldse kippus fullring täna ikalduma.

Raske villast riveril bluffi peale panna.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG+1: $102.52 (102.5 bb)
UTG+2: $108.05 (108.1 bb)
MP1: $42.79 (42.8 bb)
MP2: $137.84 (137.8 bb)
MP3: $147.63 (147.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $109.31 (109.3 bb)
BTN: $123.23 (123.2 bb)
SB: $16.38 (16.4 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K A
5 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, BB raises to $9.50, Hero calls $6.50

Flop: ($19.50) 4 J T (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($39.50) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $22, BB calls $22

River: ($83.50) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $58.50 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $83.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 J T K 9
Hero mucked K A and lost (-$41.50 net)
BB mucked and won $80.70 ($39.20 net)

[noname]

Mina täna tegin ka HERO calle,25/1 sain sette floppi ja KK oli miinuses...sellegipoolest oli sess plussis veidikene (neljas sess plussis).

Vahe on meil küll veidikene,aga midagi on sul ikkagi IMO nii kuradi valesti.
Lase kasvõi mõnel FR mängijal oma mäng üle vaadata !
Annab motti !

Edu!

[HerrJanks]

Turni bet on siin standard play?

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No ma arvan küll. Valuet saan ma nkn vaid ühe tänava jagu ning eriti bluffimist ka ei karda. Ise maksaks ka tõenäoliselt ühe panuse kinni, seega ei näind põhjust passiivset liini võtta.

[RudiTurbo]

Viimasel ajal olen näinud PL100 laudasi mitmel korral, kus on märgistatud regularid ja muttaja ainuke märgistamata mängija

[HerrJanks]

muttajale meeldib regidega madistada?

[muttaja]

Võibolla paar orbiiti olen mänginud. Asi selles, et mul endal pole veel kõik regid kindlaks tehtud.

[muttaja]

Nüüd juhtus mingi ime, ehk leidisin kolme fiššiga potlimit laua, kus oli veel ka vabu kohti!

[HerrJanks]

Miskipärast vähem regisid mängib seda formaati, ja tihti saad rahulikult fishide vastu positsioonid sisse võtta, enne kui regularid kohale tormavad :)

[muttaja]

Ei tea, kas nutta või naerda, kuda viimastel päevadel jooksen... Tänased 3bet potid, 400 kätt mängitud

1.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP: $240.26 (240.3 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
BTN: $272.54 (272.5 bb)
SB: $159.27 (159.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $123.45 (123.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
MP folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, CO calls $7

Flop: ($20.50) 7 5 J (2 players)
Hero bets $12, CO raises to $27, Hero raises to $113.45 and is all-in, CO calls $63 and is all-in

Turn: ($200.50) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($200.50) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $200.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 5 J 7 9
CO showed K K and won $197.70 ($97.70 net)
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$100 net)

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2.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
CO: $191.01 (191 bb)
BTN: $121 (121 bb)
SB: $160.13 (160.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
MP folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, CO calls $7

Flop: ($20.50) 4 9 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, CO raises to $25, Hero raises to $90 and is all-in, CO calls $65

Turn: ($200.50) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($200.50) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $200.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 9 9 6 8
CO showed 9 8 and won $197.70 ($97.70 net)
Hero showed Q A and lost (-$100 net)

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3. Vb kergelt tildine mahachekkimine oli, ent õigustas...

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG: $71.72 (71.7 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $183.74 (183.7 bb)
SB: $160.40 (160.4 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $6, BB folds, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($13) Q 3 8 (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($29) J (2 players)
SB bets $18, Hero raises to $42, SB calls $24

River: ($113) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Results: $113 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 3 8 J K
Hero mucked J J and lost (-$56 net)
SB showed T A and won $110.20 ($54.20 net)

[muttaja]

Säänse foldi tegin nüüd. Täitsa võimalik end ka callima rääkida, ent jätsin vahele:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $133.57 (133.6 bb)
BB: $119.18 (119.2 bb)
UTG: $75.96 (76 bb)
MP: $110.47 (110.5 bb)
CO: $100.21 (100.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $8, SB raises to $23, BB raises to $119.18 and is all-in, 2 folds, SB calls $96.18

Flop: ($249.36) T K 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($249.36) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($249.36) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $249.36 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T K 7 J 8
SB showed A K and won $246.56 ($127.38 net)
BB showed Q Q and lost (-$119.18 net)