[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

Regular.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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CO: $218 (109 bb)
BTN: $236.80 (118.4 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $495.68 (247.8 bb)
MP: $273.20 (136.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J A
MP folds, CO raises to $5, BTN calls $5, SB folds, Hero raises to $26, CO folds, BTN calls $21

Flop: ($58) J 2 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $25, Hero raises to $64, BTN calls $39

Turn: ($186) K (2 players)
Hero bets $405.68 and is all-in, BTN calls $146.80 and is all-in

River: ($479.60) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $479.60 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 2 J K T
BTN showed Q A and won $476.80 ($240 net)
Hero showed J A and lost (-$236.80 net)

[muttaja]

Lisaks sellele ülalolevale naljale oli jooks muidu ka frustreeriv. Ja eks ma selle peale oskan juba tilti ka minna. Lõpuks siis 1100 miinust. Mõttetu mäng.

[muttaja]

Eks selles käes olin muidugi ise ka "süüdi", sest kui jooks on ikka sitt, siis ikka parem preflop uhada ja pärast vinguda:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BB): $444.76 (222.4 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)
MP: $224 (112 bb)
CO: $311.61 (155.8 bb)
BTN: $233.20 (116.6 bb)
SB: $225.13 (112.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB raises to $14, Hero calls $12, BTN calls $10

Flop: ($42) 5 4 T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, BTN raises to $52, SB folds, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($146) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $44, Hero raises to $378.76 and is all-in, BTN calls $123.20 and is all-in

River: ($480.40) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $480.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 4 T 3 6
Hero showed K K and lost (-$233.20 net)
BTN showed 5 5 and won $477.60 ($244.40 net)

[muttaja]

Sama regualri vastu suht järjest käed:

1.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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BTN: $68.97 (34.5 bb)
SB: $213.92 (107 bb)
Hero (BB): $410.10 (205.1 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q J
2 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) 5 Q T (2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($30) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $21, Hero calls $21

River: ($72) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $53, Hero calls $53

Results: $178 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 5 Q T 2 2
SB showed K K and won $176.50 ($87.50 net)
Hero mucked Q J and lost (-$89 net)

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2.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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CO: $94.88 (47.4 bb)
BTN: $63.17 (31.6 bb)
SB: $278.62 (139.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $351.70 (175.9 bb)
MP: $216.06 (108 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 J
3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) 8 J 7 (2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($30) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($70) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $46, Hero calls $46

Results: $162 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 J 7 5 5
SB showed K K and won $159.20 ($78.20 net)
Hero mucked 8 J and lost (-$81 net)

[muttaja]

Lõpetuseks 1 käsi, mille võitsin.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $203.30 (101.7 bb)
BB: $208.04 (104 bb)
MP: $320.91 (160.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $286.37 (143.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
MP folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN raises to $18, 2 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39) 2 9 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $26, Hero calls $26

Turn: ($91) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $52, Hero raises to $242.37 and is all-in, BTN calls $104 and is all-in

River: ($403) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 9 Q A 4
BTN showed A K and lost (-$200 net)
Hero showed A Q and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)

[kardaanirist]

Ee... ma räägin bettimisest mitte callimisest.

ei saa aru. bettisid ju korra ja seda tegid flopil ja siis ei saa sa valuet 4x käest, sest sul on seal ju AT. turn ju c-c ja riveri c/shove ei calli reg seal never ever 4x-ga.

[ESTPatrick]

ei saa aru. bettisid ju korra ja seda tegid flopil ja siis ei saa sa valuet 4x käest, sest sul on seal ju AT. turn ju c-c ja riveri c/shove ei calli reg seal never ever 4x-ga.

ei kunagi on liiga lõplik. on hullemaid callegi tehtud seal. mõni reks paneb su näiteks Ax peale ja teeb calli, oleneb kui tiltis sess tal parasjagu on olnud, see on väga määrav kui light call tuleb. teoorias ei tohiks callida, kuid see ei käi tihti käsikäes praktikaga

[kardaanirist]

ei kunagi on liiga lõplik. on hullemaid callegi tehtud seal. mõni reks paneb su näiteks Ax peale ja teeb calli, oleneb kui tiltis sess tal parasjagu on olnud, see on väga määrav kui light call tuleb. teoorias ei tohiks callida, kuid see ei käi tihti käsikäes praktikaga

sa ei saa ju mängida selle peale, et "äkki on ta tiltis ja teeb sita calli". river imo kohutavalt mängitud. call >>>>> c/shove. shovega ju ei saavuta mitte kui midagi. jätkuvalt olen veendunud, et 4x ega sitem seal ei calli. Tx-ga on split anyway. Kx foldib. riveri c/f obv ei tule kõne allagi ja check ette on ehk olenevalt vastasest isegi hea, sest mõned bluffhappymad regid kindlasti vahest riveril barreldavad.

[muttaja]

Ega ma tegelikult eeldagi, et 4x seal tihtilugu callib. Minu loogiga oli see, et kui ma turn juba chekkisin, siis checkin riveri ka, et a.) vastane bluffiks mulle raha või b.) et ta 4x-iga betiks. 4x betib seal alati. Tx läheb eniveis splitti (kui see just õnnetu KT pole). Kui ma ise betin, siis callib vaid 4x ja T. Check-raise tundus rohkem EV+. Õnnetu käsi lihtsalt, nagu täna paljud teisedki.

Küsimus ongi ju tegeltkult selles, kas kasulikum on ch-call või ch-raise. Ma ikkagi usun, et pikas perspektiivis maksab 4x ja 55-AA mulle rohkem, kui mina maksan 44-le, KT-le ja KK-le.

[ESTPatrick]

siin on minu arvates oluliselt rohkem oluline sessi sisene senine madistamine kui ükskõik mis muu põhjus. kui olete suuri potte omavahel ennem mänginud ja oled bluffiga vahele jäänud siis on c/r väga hea. kui on esimene suurem pot ja ka varasemalt midagi meeldejäävat toimunud ei ole siis c/r saab calli ainult cooleritelt ja 4x folde on oluliselt rohkem kui esimeses variandis.

[muttaja]

Täna flippisin ka paari käega ära pärast kohutavat jooksu... -2000 tõsiasi

[muttaja]

Fišši regi vastu

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $224.75 (112.4 bb)
BTN: $430.96 (215.5 bb)
SB: $313.48 (156.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)
MP: $472.61 (236.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 A
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero raises to $16, BTN raises to $30, Hero calls $14

Flop: ($61) 7 8 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $20.50, Hero raises to $170 and is all-in, BTN calls $149.50

Turn: ($401) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($401) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 8 5 4 K
BTN showed 5 4 and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)
Hero showed 7 A and lost (-$200 net)

[muttaja]

Spewwy

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $502.53 (251.3 bb)
MP: $289.02 (144.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $202 (101 bb)
BTN: $233.53 (116.8 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
UTG raises to $6, MP folds, Hero raises to $16, 3 folds, UTG calls $10

Flop: ($35) K 5 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $20, UTG raises to $48, Hero raises to $186 and is all-in, UTG calls $138

Turn: ($407) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($407) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $407 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: K 5 6 9 5
UTG showed A 2 and won $404.20 ($202.20 net)
Hero showed A K and lost (-$202 net)

[muttaja]

Üks sessi viimaseid käsi, olin ses lauas end juba lolliks foldinud ja seetõttu tõenäoliselt tahtsingi nupud sisse saada. Loll olen.

Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (BTN): $437.12 (218.6 bb)
SB: $385.98 (193 bb)
BB: $541.80 (270.9 bb)
MP: $987.24 (493.6 bb)
CO: $204.60 (102.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 8
MP raises to $7, CO calls $7, Hero calls $7, SB calls $6, BB folds

Flop: ($32) 9 A 7 (4 players)
SB checks, MP bets $20.86, CO calls $20.86, Hero calls $20.86, SB folds

Turn: ($94.58) 2 (3 players)
MP checks, CO bets $44, Hero raises to $94, MP folds, CO raises to $176.34 and is all-in, Hero calls $82.34

River: ($447.26) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $447.26 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 A 7 2 9
Hero showed 5 8 and lost (-$204.60 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$28.26 net)
CO showed A Q and won $444.46 ($239.86 net)

[muttaja]

Kaks viimast päeva. Vanasti tegin sellistes situatsioonides cashoudi ja halustasin nullist ehk nl25-st, et kogu rolli maha ei mängiks :P



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[ESTPatrick]

kas poleks lihtsam lihtsalt 100nl tagasi müttama tulla?

[muttaja]

Eks see ole vist hea mõte. Loodan, et suudan mitte lahmima hakata. Üritan nitiks hakata :)

[ESTPatrick]

sa oled ju koguaeg suht tight olnud.

[muttaja]

Lasin pea 4000 kätt otsa päevasele katastroofilie. Ei võitnud ega kaotanud, ainult rake maksin. Lollusi tegin ka omajagu.

[muttaja]

Tegelt vast üks suurem lollus miski rändom fišši vastu:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $186.41 (186.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $136.91 (136.9 bb)
BTN: $117.28 (117.3 bb)
SB: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
BB: $66.96 (67 bb)
UTG: $38.50 (38.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, SB folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.50) 4 5 7 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $5, BB raises to $13, Hero calls $13, BTN calls $8

Turn: ($48.50) T (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $31, BB folds, Hero raises to $120.91 and is all-in, BTN calls $70.28 and is all-in

River: ($251.06) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $251.06 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 5 7 T 2
Hero showed Q Q and won $0.00 (-$117.28 net)
BTN showed 6 8 and won $248.26 ($130.98 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$16 net)