[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[timz0333]

Täpselt samad mõtted.

[muttaja]

Kuu sai suht rahuldavate tulemustega lõpetatud, arvestaees, et mängutunde kogunes vaid 80. Eks oma osa oli ka üle EV jooksmisel :). Veebruaris plaanin kindlasti rohkem mängida; teravamalt mängida ja kõrgemal limiidil mängida. Kui kõike ei saa, siis kaks neist vast ikka. 300k vpp graafikust olen ka natuke maas, niiet selle 300$ pärast pean ka veel pingutama hakkama :P

Üks tänane käsi ka. Tundus pigem halb nitine regular, keda polnud varem näinud, aga täna oli valmis minuga laudu alustama. Oletasin, et callib mind kõikide settidega ja ka madalama reaga. Pikas perspektiivis hea või halb liigutus? Halbu rivereid on ikka päris palju; samas säärane suur ch-raise allinn peaks olema ikka väga nutsune.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (UTG): $225.80 (112.9 bb)
MP: $238.26 (119.1 bb)
CO: $204 (102 bb)
BTN: $171.56 (85.8 bb)
SB: $124 (62 bb)
BB: $89.64 (44.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K T
Hero raises to $6, MP calls $6, CO calls $6, 3 folds

Flop: ($21) 7 9 J (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $12, CO folds, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($45) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $24, Hero raises to $207.80 and is all-in, MP calls $183.80

River: ($460.60) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $460.60 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 9 J Q 6
Hero showed K T and won $457.80 ($232 net)
MP mucked 9 9 and lost (-$225.80 net)

[Kaitz20]

Set ei foldi ning ka ilmselt kaks paari mitte, rääkimata reast.
Üldjuhul tundub ok, kui võtsid flopist sellise liini.
double gutshot+overcardiga tundub c-bet parem arvestades, et herol ei ole showdown equityd.

[Pyha Karu]

2 paari snap folditakse iga vähegi normaalse regi poolt siin ja vähe paremad oskaks siin ka 7 7 ja 9 9 foldida.

[ESTPatrick]

2 paari snap folditakse iga vähegi normaalse regi poolt siin ja vähe paremad oskaks siin ka 7 7 ja 9 9 foldida.

siis peaks sama liini võtma 100% ajast fd-ga

[Pyha Karu]

palju asju, mida "peaks", aga ei tehta. samamoodi peaks suht iga riverit shovima, aga kes endale nii suured munad suudaks kasvatada?

risk/reward suhe ei paista siin nüüd nii ahvatlev olema arvestades seda, mis käsi turnis üldse betitakse.

[muttaja]

Lauad olid pühapäevaselt head; ent kuna pole paar päeva mänginud ning tänu raskele nädalavhetusele polnud vb ka kõige teravam, jäi kasum välja võtmata. Üle kolme BI alla EV ka. Ehk tegelikult jäin pmst mänguga rahule.

Käed ka:

1. SS oli stäki üles saanud. Päris jõuline liin. Riveri shovet oleks olnud raske callida

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $81.21 (40.6 bb)
UTG: $215 (107.5 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $326.06 (163 bb)
BTN: $80 (40 bb)
SB: $270.04 (135 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN folds, SB raises to $14, BB folds, Hero calls $9

Flop: ($30) 6 9 Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB raises to $46.29, Hero calls $32.29

Turn: ($122.58) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $68.27, Hero calls $68.27

River: ($259.12) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Results: $259.12 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 9 Q 2 3
Hero showed K Q and won $256.32 ($127.76 net)
SB showed T 8 and lost (-$128.56 net)

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2. Riid olid paigas. Ime turni muidu imes välja. Seda enam on kahju, et jäin tollest viimasest betist ilma.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $284.49 (142.2 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $239.85 (119.9 bb)
SB: $209.28 (104.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $303.15 (151.6 bb)
UTG: $261.09 (130.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
2 folds, CO raises to $5, BTN calls $5, SB folds, Hero raises to $20, CO folds, BTN calls $15

Flop: ($46) A 8 A (2 players)
Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24

Turn: ($94) T (2 players)
Hero bets $59, BTN calls $59

River: ($212) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Results: $212 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 8 A T 5
BTN mucked J Q and lost (-$103 net)
Hero showed Q A and won $209.20 ($106.20 net)

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3. 1k käe kohta 3bet 15,7%; blind vs UTG 18%... Olin orbiit varem teda ka 4bettinud, ent palju väiksema sizinguga. Lootsin, et mõtleb end mõttetult suure 4beti peale üle. A no sain hoopis calli sellise lehega. Kas see ongi standard? OOP 4bettide callimine on moodi läinud. Olen üritanud ka enda mängu seda liini inkorporeerida, kuid höid kohti on keeruline leida.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $283.49 (141.7 bb)
BTN: $206 (103 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $227.30 (113.7 bb)
Hero (UTG): $204.14 (102.1 bb)
MP: $295.52 (147.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, SB raises to $20, BB folds, Hero raises to $44, SB calls $24

Flop: ($90) Q 9 A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($90) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $38, Hero calls $38

River: ($166) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Results: $166 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 9 A 5 9
SB showed J Q and lost (-$82 net)
Hero showed K K and won $163.20 ($81.20 net)

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4. Mis sellest liinist arvata? Tahtsin regulari potist välja saada ja fišši vastu olen keskmiselt üpris heas seisus. Turni tõste sai muidugi natuke liiga suur.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $199 (99.5 bb)
BB: $104.78 (52.4 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 A
MP folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN folds, SB calls $4, BB calls $3

Flop: ($15) Q 6 2 (3 players)
SB bets $9.50, BB calls $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

Turn: ($43.50) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $12, Hero raises to $40, SB folds, BB raises to $90.28 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $123.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 6 2 8
Hero mucked 6 A and lost (-$54.50 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$14.50 net)
BB mucked and won $120.70 ($66.20 net)

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5. Ja sessi viimane käsi. Üldjuhul tõstan antud olukorras suht julgelt, ent timing (ja vb tõesti asjaolu, et olin laudu sulgemas - kuigi ise seda küll ei usu ega tunnista) muutis väga ettevaatlikuks. Padufišš ka polnud.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $318.67 (159.3 bb)
BB: $39.60 (19.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $260.68 (130.3 bb)
CO: $212.98 (106.5 bb)
BTN: $212.83 (106.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, SB calls $4, BB folds

Flop: ($12) A 7 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6

Turn: ($24) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls $14

River: ($52) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

Results: $92 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 7 2 A 9
SB showed 9 9 and won $89.20 ($44.20 net)
Hero mucked A K and lost (-$45 net)

[The_Meer]

ma vist shoveks esimeses käes enamikul kordadel, sest sul liiga tihti parim käsi, kui vastane väga hea ei ole, sest ta SS
viimases käes raisiks raudselt

[muttaja]

Auts. See oli valus fišši vastu... euro laud ka takkapihta

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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BB: $452.08 (226 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $252.30 (126.2 bb)
BTN: $157 (78.5 bb)
SB: $225.86 (112.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
MP folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($25) 6 T J (2 players)
BB bets $16, Hero calls $16

Turn: ($57) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $42, Hero calls $42

River: ($141) J (2 players)
BB bets $112, Hero raises to $182.30 and is all-in, BB calls $70.30

Results: $505.60 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: 6 T J 5 J
BB showed J 6 and won $503.45 ($251.15 net)
Hero showed A Q and lost (-$252.30 net)

[nikitheone]

miks preflop ei 4bettinud?

[muttaja]

Passiivne fišš oli ja esimest korda 3bettis. Lauda tegelt oskas lugeda ka, niiet mul polnud mingit eeldust arvata, et tegu on nn rändom 3betiga. Tagantjärele kätt nähes on muidugi lihtne jõuda järeldusele, et 4bet on parim.

[muttaja]

Omg...

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $204 (102 bb)
BTN: $457.32 (228.7 bb)
SB: $201 (100.5 bb)
BB: $173.80 (86.9 bb)
UTG: $132.64 (66.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $279.71 (139.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 9
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, SB calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($20) A 6 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($20) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $14.32, Hero raises to $36, SB calls $21.68

River: ($92) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $60, SB raises to $157 and is all-in, Hero calls $97

Results: $406 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 6 7 9 3
SB showed 4 5 and won $403.20 ($202.20 net)
Hero showed 9 9 and lost (-$201 net)

[p0l1]

Miks sa 99 käes turni selle sizinguga raised ? Vastane bet/calliks turnis suurema beti kui ta juba callib. Panustaks 45-48 nt.

Lõpptulemus oleks sama olnud, niisama uurin.

[muttaja]

Hea tähelepanek. Üritasin nö blocking raise'i reppida, ehk "odavalt showdownini saada". Samas ega selliseid raise ka nii kergelt üle ei hakata tõstma. Niiet oleks vast saand jah paremini.

[muttaja]

No lõpuks midagi täkkesse ka...

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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BB: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $210.06 (105 bb)
BTN: $225.97 (113 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q K
Hero raises to $5, BTN raises to $14, 2 folds, Hero raises to $32, BTN raises to $52, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($107) 3 4 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $42, Hero calls $42

Turn: ($191) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $131.97 and is all-in, Hero calls $116.06 and is all-in

River: ($423.12) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $423.12 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 3 4 Q A T
Hero showed Q K and won $421.62 ($211.56 net)
BTN showed T K and won $0.00 (-$210.06 net)

[muttaja]

Järjest käed. Mõlemad halvad regularid. Euro lauad ka muidugi. Panin nüüd lõpuks teise sessi ka kinni ja kokku soliidne 6 BI-d miinust. Egas eriti midagi ei vusserdanud ka.

1.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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SB: $158 (79 bb)
Hero (BB): $233.56 (116.8 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $79.02 (39.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K 2
CO raises to $4.20, BTN calls $4.20, SB folds, Hero calls $2.20

Flop: ($13.60) 6 Q 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $9.74, BTN folds, Hero raises to $30, CO raises to $66.49, Hero raises to $229.36 and is all-in, CO calls $129.31 and is all-in

Turn: ($405.20) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($405.20) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $405.20 pot ($1.25 rake)
Final Board: 6 Q 7 3 7
Hero showed K 2 and lost (-$200 net)
CO showed T A and won $403.95 ($203.95 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$4.20 net)

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2.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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BTN: $157 (78.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
BB: $403.95 (202 bb)
CO: $74.82 (37.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 4
CO folds, BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $5, BB folds

Flop: ($14) K 4 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($30) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $12, Hero raises to $42, BTN calls $30

River: ($114) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $144 and is all-in, BTN calls $101 and is all-in

Results: $316 pot ($1.25 rake)
Final Board: K 4 2 8 5
BTN showed K K and won $314.75 ($157.75 net)
Hero showed 4 4 and lost (-$157 net)

[muttaja]

Lahe käsi :D

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $75.31 (37.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $202 (101 bb)
MP: $169.10 (84.6 bb)
CO: $202.05 (101 bb)
BTN: $238.85 (119.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T Q
MP folds, CO raises to $6, BTN folds, SB calls $5, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($18) T 5 T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $12.20, SB calls $12.20, Hero calls $12.20

Turn: ($54.60) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($54.60) 7 (3 players)
SB bets $10, Hero calls $10, CO raises to $50, SB calls $40, Hero calls $40

Results: $204.60 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: T 5 T 9 7
SB showed A A and lost (-$68.20 net)
Hero showed T Q and won $202.45 ($134.25 net)
CO showed K K and lost (-$68.20 net)

[Oudseisy]

Turnil bettimine oleks väga vale variant olnud?

[muttaja]

Tõenäoliselt on seal nkn 1 tänav valuet, niiet jätsin selle riverisse. Riveri betti on mul aga raske tõsta, sest on suht vähe käsi, mis selle callivad.

[muttaja]

Hakkasin kavaldama ja nii ta läks... Kuu juba 2k miinuses. Run-bad-tilt hakkab tulema :/

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $81.67 (40.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $384.02 (192 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $245.83 (122.9 bb)
BB: $98.03 (49 bb)
UTG: $238.12 (119.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
UTG folds, MP raises to $5.30, Hero calls $5.30, BTN folds, SB raises to $22, 2 folds, Hero raises to $44, SB raises to $245.83 and is all-in, Hero calls $201.83

Flop: ($498.96) J 8 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($498.96) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($498.96) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $498.96 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 8 4 Q 9
Hero showed A A and lost (-$245.83 net)
SB showed T T and won $496.16 ($250.33 net)