[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

Huvitav, kas oli matemaatiliselt +EV call? HEM ei suuda korrektselt arvutada.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $113.20 (56.6 bb)
BB: $206.92 (103.5 bb)
MP: $365.12 (182.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $204.19 (102.1 bb)
BTN: $267.16 (133.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
MP folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN folds, SB calls $4, BB raises to $20, Hero calls $15, SB calls $15

Flop: ($60) 5 4 6 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $186.92 and is all-in, Hero calls $184.19 and is all-in, SB calls $93.20 and is all-in

Turn: ($521.58) 2 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($521.58) 4 (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results: $521.58 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 4 6 2 4
SB showed 7 8 and lost (-$113.20 net)
BB showed Q K and won $0.00 (-$204.19 net)
Hero showed J A and won $518.78 ($314.59 net)

[muttaja]

Võtan ikka 1-2 parimat nl400 lauda ka kõrvale... Nojah

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Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $400 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $400 (100 bb)
SB: $416.56 (104.1 bb)
BB: $498.04 (124.5 bb)
UTG: $400 (100 bb)
MP: $465.20 (116.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
UTG raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $36, SB folds, BB calls $32, UTG calls $24

Flop: ($110) 3 9 2 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $60, BB raises to $462.04 and is all-in, UTG folds, Hero calls $304 and is all-in

Turn: ($838) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($838) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $838 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 9 2 A 5
Hero showed A A and lost (-$400 net)
BB showed Q K and won $835.20 ($435.20 net)
UTG mucked and lost (-$36 net)

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2. Täpselt JJ peale pean panema... tundus rohkem nagu mingi kombo droo

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG: $517.41 (129.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $409.97 (102.5 bb)
CO: $418.02 (104.5 bb)
BTN: $277.23 (69.3 bb)
SB: $940.80 (235.2 bb)
BB: $563.27 (140.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $12, CO calls $12, BTN calls $12, 2 folds

Flop: ($42) 4 J 4 (3 players)
Hero bets $30, CO calls $30, BTN folds

Turn: ($102) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $68, CO raises to $376.02 and is all-in, Hero calls $299.97 and is all-in

River: ($837.94) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $837.94 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 J 4 8 7
Hero showed A A and lost (-$409.97 net)
CO showed J J and won $835.14 ($425.17 net)

[Kotkas1000]

Teine käsi natsa ülemängitud ei ole? Või 6maxis see standard?

[muttaja]

Teine käsi on jah halb. Kergelt tildine vast. Samas ei näinud ta range'is mitte ühtegi nelja ning seega jäi ainukeseks mind biitivaks käeks JJ. Ja ma ei tahtnud uskdua, et JJ seal shoveb, pigem eeldasin calli. Callisin muidugi frustratsioonist, et kuda ma nii halvasti joosta saan...

[Kotkas1000]

88 ka ju täiega ranges sees.

[muttaja]

On küll jah

[p0l1]

#h2 imo kahtlane, kas paardunud laualt drawdega nii mängitakse nendest positsioonidest. Samas, kuna see on tugev liin, siis mõni hull teeb seda. Kui vastane on hea reg, siis on value poole see move pigem ? Ehk ta ei raise isegi JK/AJ siit nii ?

Üritan mikromehena aru saada mõnikord :).

[muttaja]

Kordki tuleb see mastirida õigel ajal:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $331.50 (165.8 bb)
BTN: $148 (74 bb)
SB: $221 (110.5 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $434.52 (217.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $206.60 (103.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 T
UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($13) A J J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB raises to $22, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($57) Q (2 players)
BB bets $42, Hero calls $42

River: ($141) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $130 and is all-in, Hero calls $130

Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A J J Q 8
BB showed A J and lost (-$200 net)
Hero showed 9 T and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)

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Ent samal ajal teises lauas :/

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG: $204.60 (102.3 bb)
MP: $366.20 (183.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $211.70 (105.9 bb)
BTN: $541.40 (270.7 bb)
SB: $240.20 (120.1 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN raises to $10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $30, BTN raises to $60, Hero raises to $211.70 and is all-in, BTN calls $151.70

Flop: ($426.40) 9 7 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($426.40) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($426.40) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $426.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 7 3 2 3
Hero showed K K and lost (-$211.70 net)
BTN showed 3 A and won $423.60 ($211.90 net)

[timz0333]

Täitsa korralik vaalapoiss seal teises lauas.

[muttaja]

Ikka õnnestus vales kohas valuetownida... Uskusin, et JT üritab ikka turnil potti maha võtta

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $234.99 (117.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $123 (61.5 bb)
MP: $304.20 (152.1 bb)
CO: $183.81 (91.9 bb)
BTN: $278.79 (139.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero raises to $16, BTN calls $12

Flop: ($33) Q A 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $22, BTN calls $22

Turn: ($77) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($77) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $50, Hero raises to $162 and is all-in, BTN calls $112

Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q A 9 6 K
Hero showed A Q and lost (-$200 net)
BTN showed T J and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)

[muttaja]

Foldisin regfishi vastu

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $74 (37 bb)
SB: $97.55 (48.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $210 (105 bb)
MP: $203 (101.5 bb)
CO: $203 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $16, SB calls $10

Flop: ($32) 2 Q T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($32) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $14, Hero calls $14

River: ($60) A (2 players)
SB bets $67.55 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $60 pot ($2.70 rake)
Final Board: 2 Q T 2 A
SB mucked and won $57.30 ($27.30 net)
Hero mucked A K and lost (-$30 net)

[Kotkas1000]

Kas sellise stacki vastu flopil hea lükata ei oleks?

[muttaja]

AA-d ma ju seal ei lükkaks. Mängin üldjuhul bluffe/semibluffe valuekätele sarnaselt.

Tagantjärele ei mäleta, miks üldse flopi läbi chekkisin. Peaks olema suht standard beti koht.

[valgelendur]

Jah, check tundub imelik flopis, su range (oleneb 3bet strateegiast muidugi, kui väga polarized siis muidugi leiaks argumente checkimiseks) peaks seda floppi tabama piisavalt hästi et 100% kogu rangega seal cbet teha.

[Kotkas1000]

AA-d ma ju seal ei lükkaks. Mängin üldjuhul bluffe/semibluffe valuekätele sarnaselt.

Tagantjärele ei mäleta, miks üldse flopi läbi chekkisin. Peaks olema suht standard beti koht.

Ma ei ole nii kindel, et mingi pooliku stackiga venna vastu pead oma pead sellega vaevama, mis sa seal AA teeksid ja balanced olema.. Meil gutshot ja ülekaardid ning 3bet pot. Ma kaaluks seal shortie vastu shove, et maksimeerida FE.

[redddman10]

sry ma noob aga miks üldse turn callida kui river foldida sellise kaardi peale

[muttaja]

Turni callin, kuna mul on piisavalt hea käsi. Riveri foldin, kuna isegi fishreg teab, et A hitib mu check-back range'i väga hästi ja seetõttu blufib seda palju väiksema tõenäosusega. Ja kui ta ei blufi, siis ma ei biidi mitte midagi.

[redddman10]

selge ty.

[Pyha Karu]

Ma ei ole nii kindel, et mingi pooliku stackiga venna vastu pead oma pead sellega vaevama, mis sa seal AA teeksid ja balanced olema.. Meil gutshot ja ülekaardid ning 3bet pot. Ma kaaluks seal shortie vastu shove, et maksimeerida FE.

Ehk siis effective 82dol overshove 32dol poti? Võtad talt ära võimaluse A J või K J-ga kaasa tulla. Väga halb liigutus.

[muttaja]

Valus valuebet regulari poolt. 6maxis oleks vast ok, aga tegu oli just tärkava fullring lauaga (ja seega ka fullringi regulariga).

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $220.80 (110.4 bb)
SB: $192 (96 bb)
BB: $225.78 (112.9 bb)
Hero (MP): $218.36 (109.2 bb)
CO: $78.31 (39.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 8
Hero raises to $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, SB folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($19) 9 9 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13, BTN calls $13, BB calls $13

Turn: ($58) T (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $28.80, BB folds, Hero calls $28.80

River: ($115.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $58.65, Hero calls $58.65

Results: $232.90 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 9 3 T 6
BTN showed T A and won $230.10 ($123.65 net)
Hero mucked 8 8 and lost (-$106.45 net)