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  1. #1341
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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Mängisin sessi korralikult, aga lõpuks kallutas jooks vist kergelt tilti. Peale selle käe oli kõik kena ja jäin mänguga rahule. Aga inimväärset kaardijooksu tahaks ka näha, et heast mängust kasu, mitte kahju ei oleks.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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    SB: $299.18 (149.6 bb)
    BB: $200 (100 bb)
    MP1: $206.94 (103.5 bb)
    MP2: $200 (100 bb)
    Hero (MP3): $203 (101.5 bb)
    CO: $83 (41.5 bb)
    BTN: $200 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A A
    2 folds, Hero raises to $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, 2 folds

    Flop: ($15) 3 4 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $10, BTN calls $10

    Turn: ($35) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $22, Hero calls $22

    River: ($79) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $50, Hero calls $50

    Results: $179 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 3 4 4 6 2
    Hero mucked A A and lost (-$88 net)
    BTN showed 3 3 and won $176.20 ($88.20 net)

  2. #1342

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Mis selles käes nii halba on? Turni check-call on mixing it up või spidey senses?

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    ei tea kes küll vastane on, aga agroma venna vastu peaks suht ok olema?

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Minu range on pärast turni ch-calli ikka suht tugev ja ma biidin aint bluffe, kui ta pole just KK/QQ-ga coldcallinud. Villane võib turni madalama paariga bettida, "et kaitsta oma equityt", aga riveri checkitakse üldjuhul selliste kätega järele.

    Ühesõnaga, kuna minu range on tugev, siis ma eeldan, et minu eeldatava tugeva range vastu riveril ei bluffita piisavalt tihti.

  5. #1345

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    ma ei tea imo suht close on riveris as played. Tahaks overall callida, sest su käsi repib madalamat sd valuet kui sul on. Ainukesed asjad mille pärast muretseda paar fh kombot (fh raske saada overall anyway ja kõik regid ei flati small pocketeid seal) ja see, et floaditud backdoor ruutud tulid kokku (see reaalsem isegi maybe). A5s ja A4s blokime ka veits. kuna su käsi tundubki as played selline textbook c/call turn c/fold river showdown valueish käsi, siis iga float peaks riverit ka barreldama.
    Viimati muudetud donkament poolt : 21.04.13 at 22:56

  6. #1346

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    High card floatid ja missed flushdrawd. Väga standard check-call. Kui just mingi nit pole.

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Päris hea equityga sain nupud sisse :P

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    SB: $334.20 (167.1 bb)
    BB: $89.09 (44.5 bb)
    MP: $200 (100 bb)
    CO: $761.66 (380.8 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with T J
    MP raises to $5, CO folds, Hero calls $5, SB folds, BB calls $3

    Flop: ($16) 4 7 9 (3 players)
    BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls $10, MP folds

    Turn: ($36) 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB raises to $74.09 and is all-in, Hero calls $54.09

    River: ($184.18) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $184.18 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 4 7 9 2 3
    BB showed T J and won $90.69 ($1.60 net)
    Hero showed T J and won $90.69 ($1.60 net)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Ja vastupidi: päris kehvake equity...

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    UTG: $95.40 (47.7 bb)
    MP: $193.32 (96.7 bb)
    Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)
    BTN: $250.72 (125.4 bb)
    SB: $226.70 (113.4 bb)
    BB: $213.46 (106.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q T
    2 folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $3

    Flop: ($11) 8 9 7 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB raises to $27.87, Hero raises to $64, BB raises to $208.46 and is all-in, Hero calls $131 and is all-in

    Turn: ($401) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($401) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 9 7 K 5
    Hero showed Q T and lost (-$200 net)
    BB showed K J and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Uskumatult närvi suutsin ikka minna pärast kahe käe kaotamist hobimängijale. Nädal aega ühe koha pea lliikumist.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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    BB: $444.70 (222.4 bb)
    CO: $200 (100 bb)
    BTN: $146.28 (73.1 bb)
    Hero (SB): $210 (105 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
    CO raises to $5, BTN raises to $14, Hero calls $13, BB folds, CO calls $9

    Flop: ($44) 9 A J (3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $26, Hero calls $26, CO folds

    Turn: ($96) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    River: ($96) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $48, BTN raises to $106.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $58.28

    Results: $308.56 pot ($1.50 rake)
    Final Board: 9 A J 3 Q
    BTN showed 8 T and won $307.06 ($160.78 net)
    Hero showed A Q and lost (-$146.28 net)


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    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    CO: $202 (101 bb)
    BTN: $234.82 (117.4 bb)
    SB: $200 (100 bb)
    BB: $586.51 (293.3 bb)
    Hero (MP): $288.56 (144.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 9
    Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

    Flop: ($37) 7 6 8 (2 players)
    BB bets $24, Hero raises to $64, BB calls $40

    Turn: ($165) 4 (2 players)
    BB bets $504.51 and is all-in, Hero calls $206.56 and is all-in

    River: ($578.12) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $578.12 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 6 8 4 2
    BB showed 6 5 and won $575.32 ($286.76 net)
    Hero showed 9 9 and lost (-$288.56 net)

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    REGULAR!? Mäh?!

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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    BB: $80 (40 bb)
    CO: $107.31 (53.7 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
    SB: $201 (100.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 3
    CO folds, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $16, BB folds, Hero calls $12

    Flop: ($34) 3 6 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $18, Hero calls $18

    Turn: ($70) A (2 players)
    SB bets $38, Hero calls $38

    River: ($146) 9 (2 players)
    SB bets $129 and is all-in, Hero calls $128 and is all-in

    Results: $402 pot ($1.50 rake)
    Final Board: 3 6 2 A 9
    Hero showed 3 3 and won $400.50 ($200.50 net)
    SB showed T A and lost (-$200 net)

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    Ühte väga huvitavat kätt ei hakka panema, kuna seal eestlane vastas, ja kuna ma tema kätt ei näinud, siis ei hakka infot ära andma :)

  10. #1350

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    First hand, turni check on standard?

    E: või tahtsid check raisida?

  11. #1351
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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Ma ei olnud käes agressor; coldcallisin SB pealt 3beti, mida iseenesest teen väga harva.

  12. #1352

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    see viimane käsi reg poolt vaadates, tal ongi ju 2 varianti,ch-c pole mitte mingit mõtet, kuna liiga tihti sa ch j2rgi seal sitemad käed ning jääbki yle kas shove(võid seal aegajalt leveldada kyll sitematega callima, kuigi fd j6udis kohale) või siis ch-f. Ma arvan et ta riveri shove pole yldse kohutav

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    3 tundi mannetud maaldemist godmodevate fiššidega taas seljataga. Lõpuks isegi nullis :)

    1. BB peal "sihtmärk"; tahtsin tema vastu preflop potti kasvatada. Isos ja callis regular. Mnjah. Järgmine orbiit oli utg pealt QQ, siis ka limp-raise'isin :)

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    CO: $200 (100 bb)
    BTN: $392.76 (196.4 bb)
    SB: $542.35 (271.2 bb)
    BB: $443.76 (221.9 bb)
    Hero (MP): $200 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with K Q
    Hero calls $2, CO folds, BTN raises to $10, SB folds, BB calls $8, Hero raises to $36, BTN calls $26, BB folds

    Flop: ($83) K 6 K (2 players)
    Hero bets $40, BTN calls $40

    Turn: ($163) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $124 and is all-in, BTN calls $124

    River: ($411) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $411 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: K 6 K 9 A
    BTN showed Q A and won $408.20 ($208.20 net)
    Hero showed K Q and lost (-$200 net)

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    2. Järgmised kolm kätt ühe ja sama vaala vastu.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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    UTG+1: $200 (100 bb)
    UTG+2: $116.42 (58.2 bb)
    MP1: $200 (100 bb)
    MP2: $187.18 (93.6 bb)
    Hero (MP3): $217.34 (108.7 bb)
    CO: $297.12 (148.6 bb)
    BTN: $82.23 (41.1 bb)
    SB: $222.88 (111.4 bb)
    BB: $200 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K Q
    3 folds, MP2 calls $2, Hero raises to $9, CO raises to $27, 3 folds, MP2 calls $25, Hero raises to $58, CO folds, MP2 calls $31

    Flop: ($146) Q 4 A (2 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($146) 6 (2 players)
    MP2 bets $129.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $129.18

    River: ($404.36) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $404.36 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: Q 4 A 6 7
    MP2 showed Q J and lost (-$187.18 net)
    Hero showed K Q and won $401.56 ($214.38 net)

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    3.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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    MP1: $200 (100 bb)
    MP2: $200 (100 bb)
    MP3: $614.36 (307.2 bb)
    CO: $200 (100 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
    SB: $200 (100 bb)
    BB: $83 (41.5 bb)
    UTG+2: $112.07 (56 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
    UTG+2 calls $2, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2, CO folds, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $10, MP3 calls $10

    Flop: ($39) 8 5 8 (3 players)
    UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $20, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls $20

    Turn: ($79) 2 (2 players)
    MP3 checks, Hero bets $46, MP3 calls $46

    River: ($171) 2 (2 players)
    MP3 bets $536.36 and is all-in, Hero calls $122 and is all-in

    Results: $415 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 5 8 2 2
    MP3 showed A A and won $412.20 ($212.20 net)
    Hero showed K K and lost (-$200 net)

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    Viimati muudetud muttaja poolt : 23.04.13 at 13:17

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    4. Tegelt riveril kaalusin ka järele chekkmist, aga pikas persektiivis pole see kindlasti hea. Lihtsalt tänane jooks oleks seda soosinud :P

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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    UTG+1: $200 (100 bb)
    UTG+2: $257.82 (128.9 bb)
    MP1: $842.75 (421.4 bb)
    MP2: $200 (100 bb)
    MP3: $226.20 (113.1 bb)
    Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)
    BTN: $200 (100 bb)
    SB: $204 (102 bb)
    BB: $76.54 (38.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J K
    2 folds, MP1 calls $2, MP2 raises to $9.70, MP3 folds, Hero calls $9.70, 2 folds, BB calls $7.70, MP1 calls $7.70

    Flop: ($39.80) K 9 3 (4 players)
    BB checks, MP1 bets $14, MP2 folds, Hero calls $14, BB folds

    Turn: ($67.80) K (2 players)
    MP1 bets $18, Hero raises to $78, MP1 calls $60

    River: ($223.80) 7 (2 players)
    MP1 checks, Hero bets $98.30 and is all-in, MP1 calls $98.30

    Results: $420.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: K 9 3 K 7
    MP1 showed Q K and won $417.60 ($217.60 net)
    Hero showed J K and lost (-$200 net)

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    5. Ning ühe tüübi vastu, kellele ka eile mitu stäkki sarnastes olukordades andsin. Tulin täna värskelt peale, umbes 2 oribiiti mängitud... Õnneks hiljem sain tänase sessi ta vastu plussi.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BB: $216.28 (108.1 bb)
    UTG: $259.20 (129.6 bb)
    MP: $203 (101.5 bb)
    CO: $112.30 (56.2 bb)
    BTN: $482.68 (241.3 bb)
    Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q 9
    3 folds, BTN raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, BB folds, BTN calls $14

    Flop: ($42) 9 6 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $32, Hero calls $32

    Turn: ($106) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $430.68 and is all-in, Hero calls $148 and is all-in

    River: ($402.00) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $402.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 9 6 6 J K
    BTN showed J T and won $399.20 ($199.20 net)
    Hero showed Q 9 and lost (-$200 net)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Mis kena uuendus foorumile tehtud on? Ei saa enam ühte postitusse käsi panna, kuna liiga palju "pilte"...

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Üks natuke piinlik käsi ka. Frustratsiooni call. Regular oleks vast paremad Ax-id nagunii väja bettinud ning kõrgemad mastid ka. Ning kui fiššile oleks Ax või madal mast olnud, oleks vast ka callinud. A no ahneks läksin.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    Hero (MP): $509.78 (254.9 bb)
    CO: $567.98 (284 bb)
    BTN: $286.30 (143.2 bb)
    SB: $202.60 (101.3 bb)
    BB: $429.27 (214.6 bb)
    UTG: $200 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 3 3
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, SB folds, BB calls $4

    Flop: ($21.40) 3 A A (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $12, BTN calls $12, BB calls $12

    Turn: ($57.40) 5 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $38, BTN calls $38, BB calls $38

    River: ($171.40) 9 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $90, BTN raises to $229.90 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero calls $139.90

    Results: $631.20 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 3 A A 5 9
    Hero mucked 3 3 and lost (-$286.30 net)
    BTN showed A 5 and won $628.40 ($342.10 net)
    BB mucked and lost (-$56.40 net)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Nii kehvasid laudu kui täna, pole ammu näinud. Regulare täis lauale tekivad ka waitinglistid :P

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Cool :)

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    BTN: $200 (100 bb)
    SB: $198 (99 bb)
    BB: $200 (100 bb)
    Hero (MP): $266.14 (133.1 bb)
    CO: $73.14 (36.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with K A
    Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, SB raises to $14, BB folds, Hero raises to $32, SB calls $18

    Flop: ($66) 7 2 7 (2 players)
    SB bets $42, Hero raises to $234.14 and is all-in, SB calls $124 and is all-in

    Turn: ($398) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($398) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $398 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 2 7 6 5
    SB showed A Q and lost (-$198 net)
    Hero showed K A and won $395.20 ($197.20 net)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Regular. Ei biidi mitte midagi, ent callib.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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    MP3: $201.88 (100.9 bb)
    CO: $340.48 (170.2 bb)
    BTN: $212.92 (106.5 bb)
    SB: $169.28 (84.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): $201 (100.5 bb)
    MP1: $85.74 (42.9 bb)
    MP2: $84.92 (42.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 9
    3 folds, CO raises to $6, BTN calls $6, SB folds, Hero calls $4

    Flop: ($19) 4 7 9 (3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $11.79, Hero raises to $36, CO folds, BTN calls $24.21

    Turn: ($91) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $60, BTN calls $60

    River: ($211) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $99 and is all-in, BTN calls $99

    Results: $409 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 4 7 9 9 5
    BTN showed Q Q and lost (-$201 net)
    Hero showed 9 9 and won $406.20 ($205.20 net)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Mul on arvuti kõrval isegi note, et võta ebakonventsionaalseid liine, et regularid lolliks läheksid :P

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $197 (98.5 bb)
    SB: $200 (100 bb)
    BB: $197 (98.5 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
    MP: $203 (101.5 bb)
    CO: $208 (104 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A Q
    Hero raises to $6, MP calls $6, 4 folds

    Flop: ($15) 3 8 Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP checks

    Turn: ($15) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $10, MP calls $10

    River: ($35) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $26, MP raises to $66, Hero calls $40

    Results: $167 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 3 8 Q 3 Q
    Hero showed A Q and won $164.20 ($82.20 net)
    MP showed J A and lost (-$82 net)

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