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  1. #1521

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Eks 6max dünaamika agrom kindlasti, kuid fr-is ma küll iga mehe vastu utg vs sb KK-ga 145bb deep pre sisse ei aja.

  2. #1522

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Ja siin paistab veel fish ka potis olema, seega standard flat pre ju :)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Krt ei teagi, kas on ainult badbeat või ka sitt mäng. JJ tal range'is vaevalt on, kuna tegu tundus regulari moodi tüübiga. 88 ka vaid 1 kombo ja ka seda võib pre 3bettida. Aga nt J5-lt saan tappa, mis võib nii mängida ja siis mastiridadelt... Küsimus on, kas ma saan 5x-ilt ja mastilt piisavalt calle, et ch-raise õigustatud oleks?

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    Hero (SB): $259.39 (129.7 bb)
    BB: $206 (103 bb)
    UTG: $169.10 (84.6 bb)
    MP: $313.86 (156.9 bb)
    CO: $80 (40 bb)
    BTN: $200 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 8
    4 folds, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3

    Flop: ($10) 8 J 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $8, BB calls $8

    Turn: ($26) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $18, BB calls $18

    River: ($62) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $45, Hero raises to $228.39 and is all-in, BB calls $130 and is all-in

    Results: $412 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 J 5 5 6
    Hero showed 5 8 and won $0.00 (-$206 net)
    BB showed 4 7 and won $409.20 ($203.20 net)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Üks fiššine nitt hakkas mind pärast seda kätt godmodema:

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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    Hero (SB): $211.92 (106 bb)
    BB: $196 (98 bb)
    CO: $217.84 (108.9 bb)
    BTN: $386.98 (193.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q J
    CO folds, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $16, BB folds, BTN calls $12

    Flop: ($34) A 5 T (2 players)
    Hero bets $18, BTN calls $18

    Turn: ($70) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $50, BTN raises to $352.98 and is all-in, Hero calls $127.92

    River: ($425.84) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $425.84 pot ($1.50 rake)
    Final Board: A 5 T K 9
    Hero showed Q J and lost (-$211.92 net)
    BTN showed K 8 and won $424.34 ($212.42 net)

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    Ei usu, et ta nii kaval on, et sellise sizinguga bluffib

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $100.06 (50 bb)
    SB: $320.49 (160.2 bb)
    BB: $200 (100 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $203 (101.5 bb)
    MP: $211 (105.5 bb)
    CO: $288.59 (144.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K Q
    Hero raises to $6, MP raises to $16, 4 folds, Hero calls $10

    Flop: ($35) J 6 K (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $20, Hero calls $20

    Turn: ($75) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $44, Hero calls $44

    River: ($163) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $76, Hero folds

    Results: $163 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: J 6 K 3 4
    Hero mucked K Q and lost (-$80 net)
    MP mucked and won $160.20 ($80.20 net)

  5. #1525

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    kaotad ainult 66 (ok 1 kombo J5s ja üks kombo 88)+ blind vs blind = std ship. flushikombosi palju. Preflop äärmiselt optimistlik though.
    Viimati muudetud donkament poolt : 25.06.13 at 21:52

  6. #1526

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    KQ käes, kui tal endal on bluff, siis on see 3 barrelina väga hea bet, et sind maha saada Jx/99-TT,QQ kätelt ju, ma muidugi ei tea, mis su OP 3b cc range ka seal on. AK oop 3b cc ranges eriti ei ole ja nutse sa raiseks juba postflop, turn? Imo su turn call on küll money burn, kui tahad näha mis riveris teeb?
    Muidugi oleneb su enda readidest lauas ka, mida ma ei tea.

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Tegu oli tõenäoliselt kaotava semiregularist nitiga. Ei näe seal teda riveril bluffimas, samas turnil võib seda küll teha. Ega riveri kohta liialt infot polnud, aga seni oli aggrfr ikka väga madal
    Viimati muudetud muttaja poolt : 25.06.13 at 22:44

  8. #1528

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Ega nit su UTG openit lightilt ka ei 3 beti.

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    MPvUTG 3betitakse üldjuhul ikka väga polariseeritult

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Päris ambitsioonikas ja maniakaalne vaal oli täna lauas:

    1.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    UTG: $229.38 (114.7 bb)
    MP: $330.25 (165.1 bb)
    CO: $507.57 (253.8 bb)
    BTN: $372.67 (186.3 bb)
    Hero (SB): $223.39 (111.7 bb)
    BB: $254.88 (127.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 A
    2 folds, CO calls $2, BTN folds, Hero completes, BB raises to $10, CO calls $8, Hero calls $8

    Flop: ($30) A Q K (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $28, Hero calls $28, BB folds

    Turn: ($86) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $90, Hero raises to $185.39 and is all-in, CO calls $95.39

    River: ($456.78) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $456.78 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: A Q K 8 6
    CO showed 5 T and won $453.98 ($230.59 net)
    Hero showed 8 A and lost (-$223.39 net)

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    2. Järgmine käsi

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BB: $229.38 (114.7 bb)
    UTG: $330.25 (165.1 bb)
    MP: $738.16 (369.1 bb)
    CO: $372.67 (186.3 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
    SB: $244.88 (122.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 6
    UTG folds, MP calls $2, CO folds, Hero calls $2, SB completes, BB checks

    Flop: ($8) 3 4 6 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $8, Hero raises to $28, 2 folds, MP calls $20

    Turn: ($64) T (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $50, MP raises to $460, Hero calls $120 and is all-in

    River: ($404) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $404 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 3 4 6 T 2
    MP showed T 7 and lost (-$200 net)
    Hero showed 4 6 and won $401.20 ($201.20 net)

    **********************'

    3. A kahjuks kaotasin talle kokkuvõttes päris palju. See on üks kahtlane käsi, mis üpris alguses. Hilejm oelks vast maha callinud.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    MP: $200 (100 bb)
    CO: $463.05 (231.5 bb)
    BTN: $231.16 (115.6 bb)
    SB: $393.70 (196.9 bb)
    Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
    UTG: $208.70 (104.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J K
    UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, SB folds, Hero raises to $30, MP folds, BTN calls $24

    Flop: ($67) A A 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $40, Hero calls $40

    Turn: ($147) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    River: ($147) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $161.16 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Results: $147.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: A A 3 A 7
    BTN mucked and won $144.20 ($74.20 net)
    Hero mucked J K and lost (-$70 net)

  11. #1531

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas muttaja Vaata postitust
    MPvUTG 3betitakse üldjuhul ikka väga polariseeritult
    Mingil weak tight kaotaval mängijal suure tõenäosusega ei pruugi isegi olla bluff 3 beti utg vastu. Isegi minul ununeb see tihtipeale ära. Kui tal mingi väike bluff osa juhtub olema, ei tasu see call ikkagi ära.
    Viimati muudetud Pyha Karu poolt : 27.06.13 at 17:27

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Kuu läbi. Esimene pool oli kole. Vahepeal tulid mitmepäevased pausid ka sisse, mis mulle eriti ei sobi. Tulemus keskmine, uuel kuul tahaks paremini.

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  13. #1533

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Tugev lõpp, wd!

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Kolm päeva pausi ja algus oli natuke konarlik. Paar BI-d miinust ka. Esimene suurem käsi sessi alguses...

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $203.32 (101.7 bb)
    SB: $200 (100 bb)
    BB: $224 (112 bb)
    UTG: $200 (100 bb)
    Hero (MP): $204.32 (102.2 bb)
    CO: $96.46 (48.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 9
    UTG raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 4 folds

    Flop: ($15) 5 5 8 (2 players)
    UTG bets $7, Hero calls $7

    Turn: ($29) 9 (2 players)
    UTG bets $16, Hero raises to $46, UTG calls $30

    River: ($121) Q (2 players)
    UTG bets $51, Hero raises to $145.32 and is all-in, UTG calls $90 and is all-in

    Results: $403 pot ($2.15 rake)
    Final Board: 5 5 8 9 Q
    UTG showed 5 5 and won $400.85 ($200.85 net)
    Hero showed 9 9 and won $0.00 (-$200 net)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Esimene plussis sess sel kuul. Plussis selle käe jagu:

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
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    SB: $932.33 (466.2 bb)
    BB: $502.27 (251.1 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $518.70 (259.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 8
    Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $14, BB folds, Hero calls $10

    Flop: ($31.20) 9 5 7 (2 players)
    SB bets $22, Hero raises to $60, SB calls $38

    Turn: ($151.20) T (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $102, SB raises to $857.93, Hero calls $342.30 and is all-in

    River: ($1,039.80) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $1,039.80 pot ($1.50 rake)
    Final Board: 9 5 7 T 9
    SB showed 6 5 and won $0.00 (-$518.70 net)
    Hero showed J 8 and won $1,038.30 ($519.60 net)

  16. #1536

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    J 8o standard call sul või ainult nõrgemate mängijate vastu?

  17. #1537

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Nii deepilt ma callin sellise sizinguga 3beti Phil Ivey vastu ka.

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Rõõm jäi üürikeseks plussis sessist. Sel kuul ikka kõik kolm päeva miinuses :/. Enda arust tegin teise sessiga ka solid mängu, aga seisud olid minu kahjuks ja kirsiks tordi peal selline käsi regulaarselt mängiva fišši vastu:

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    SB: $81 (40.5 bb)
    Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
    UTG: $212.74 (106.4 bb)
    MP: $209 (104.5 bb)
    CO: $235.20 (117.6 bb)
    BTN: $241.48 (120.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
    3 folds, BTN raises to $6, SB folds, Hero raises to $20, BTN calls $14

    Flop: ($41) 7 5 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $28, BTN calls $28

    Turn: ($97) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $60, BTN raises to $193.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $92 and is all-in

    River: ($401) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 5 3 K 9
    Hero showed T T and lost (-$200 net)
    BTN showed 9 9 and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Üks rumal käsi ka. Suht mõttetu callida, sest isegi kui ma masti hitin, ei blufi/beti ta piisavalt tihti riveril. Ja 9 või J võivad halvad olla. Suht mõttetu bet üldsegi turnil.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    Hero (CO): $634.06 (317 bb)
    BTN: $1,122.15 (561.1 bb)
    SB: $200 (100 bb)
    BB: $200 (100 bb)
    MP: $874.86 (437.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 J
    MP folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN raises to $20, SB folds, BB calls $18, Hero calls $14

    Flop: ($63) 7 A 5 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($63) 9 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $40, BTN raises to $120, BB folds, Hero calls $80

    River: ($303) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    Results: $303 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 A 5 9 2
    Hero showed 9 J and lost (-$140.40 net)
    BTN showed Q A and won $300.20 ($159.80 net)

  20. #1540

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas Kotkas1000 Vaata postitust
    Nii deepilt ma callin sellise sizinguga 3beti Phil Ivey vastu ka.
    Ja mis selle point on? Hea mängija ei kaota sulle kogu stacki kui hitid ja üleüldise 3 bet rangei vastu oled suht sitas seisus. Mis valemiga sa selliste callidega plussi jääd normaalse rangei vastu?

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