[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

Mängisin kenasti ja enesekindlalt kuni alljärgneva käeni. Plaanis oli mudiugi river bet-foldida, ent suutsin end kudiagimoodi ümber veenda, kui timebanki lõpus allinni surus. Pärast seda oli mõneks ajaks hea rütm kadunud :/

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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UTG: $259.24 (129.6 bb)
MP: $208 (104 bb)
CO: $180 (90 bb)
BTN: $200.39 (100.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $221.94 (111 bb)
BB: $254.72 (127.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K 7
2 folds, CO raises to $4, BTN calls $4, Hero calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($14) 7 A 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, BTN folds, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($34) K (2 players)
Hero bets $22, CO calls $22

River: ($78) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $64, CO raises to $144 and is all-in, Hero calls $80

Results: $366 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 A 6 K 3
CO showed 4 5 and won $363.20 ($183.20 net)
Hero mucked K 7 and lost (-$180 net)

[muttaja]

See ka nõme käsi. Aint Kx 2 paari biidib mind ja seetõttu ei leinud foldi

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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SB: $212.61 (106.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $209 (104.5 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $202 (101 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T 7
CO folds, BTN raises to $4, SB calls $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($12) 7 5 Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $8, SB folds, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($28) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($28) K (2 players)
Hero bets $18, BTN raises to $62, Hero calls $44

Results: $152 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 7 5 Q 3 K
Hero mucked T 7 and lost (-$74 net)
BTN showed K 7 and won $150.50 ($76.50 net)

[Pyha Karu]

Sa peaks valuebetima Qx kah riveril, nii et iga Kx peaks raisima. On 10 7 siin ok valuebet?

[muttaja]

Eks T7 ole jah piiripealne. Tal pole kunagi Qx või parem välja arvatud, kui K-le pihta sai. Niiet T7 võiks ok bet olla.

[Fortune]

K on talle suht ok bluffikaart samas, c/c ka potentsiaali imo

[muttaja]

CU fish; oi kuidas SB vingus kui ta mu kätt nägi. Foldis bottom seti vast.

Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $199.35 (99.7 bb)
CO: $430.26 (215.1 bb)
Hero (BTN): $534.13 (267.1 bb)
SB: $505.60 (252.8 bb)
BB: $196.60 (98.3 bb)
UTG: $495 (247.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 4
2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB raises to $28, CO calls $22, Hero calls $22, SB calls $22

Flop: ($114.40) 9 8 T (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $52, CO calls $52, Hero raises to $505.73 and is all-in, SB folds, BB calls $116.20, CO folds

Turn: ($502.80) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($502.80) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $502.80 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 8 T A 5
CO mucked and lost (-$80.40 net)
Hero showed 7 4 and lost (-$196.60 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$28.40 net)
BB showed Q Q and won $500 ($303.40 net)

[muttaja]

See jäi kripeldama. Oleks pidanud panema riveril kas kuskil 40% potist või üldse chekkima. Pigem viimane, sest pärast turni calli on tal pmst Ad... Turni bet sai ka natuke väike vist.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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CO: $205.16 (102.6 bb)
BTN: $268.25 (134.1 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $255.45 (127.7 bb)
MP: $132.80 (66.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 T
2 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($9) J 8 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.45, Hero raises to $22, BTN calls $15.55

Turn: ($53) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $68, BTN calls $68

River: ($189) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $161.45 and is all-in, BTN folds

Results: $189 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 8 9 Q 2
BTN mucked and lost (-$94 net)
Hero mucked 5 T and won $186.20 ($92.20 net)

[muttaja]

Täna sellised callid töötasid:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $200 (100 bb)
CO: $107.46 (53.7 bb)
BTN: $138.22 (69.1 bb)
SB: $121.31 (60.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $231.97 (116 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A 7
2 folds, CO raises to $5, BTN calls $5, SB folds, Hero raises to $18, CO folds, BTN calls $13

Flop: ($42) 2 2 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $24, BTN raises to $120.22 and is all-in, Hero calls $96.22

Turn: ($282.44) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($282.44) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $282.44 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 2 8 4 J
BTN showed A 3 and lost (-$138.22 net)
Hero showed A 7 and won $279.64 ($141.42 net)

[The_Meer]

See käsi, kus sul straightflush on... mulle riveri ch absoluutselt ei meeldi, sest sa turni overbetiga repid straightflushi või A high flushi või 6hku pm.. seega kui sa riveri ch, siis mõtlev mängija ch seal A high flushi j2rgi, sest millega sa callid seal? Sa ei keera ju ala mingid Kd turnis blufiks või flopatud setti, sest miks sa peaksid seda tegema...

[muttaja]

Noja... Eks sul õigus ole. Seepärast vast suurem viga ongi turni liiga väike bet. Sest Ad peab seal pmst iga beti callima. Vastane peaks olema ka päris hea regular.

[muttaja]

Aga nagu ma aru olen saanud, siis teooria üle siin alafoorumis arutada ei tohi. Sorri ranka :)

[ranka]

Aga nagu ma aru olen saanud, siis teooria üle siin alafoorumis arutada ei tohi. Sorri ranka :)

Kus ma seda öelnud olen?

Ütlen vaikselt ära ja hakkan tuletama päevikutes meelde, et postitatud käed, mille eesmärk on saada strateegilist arutelu tuleb panna strateegia alafoorumisse. See nüüd ei tähenda, et päevikutesse ei tohiks postitada käsi või arutada strateegiat. Tohib ja see on väga hea, et nii tehakse.

Miks?

Päevikud on taaskord muutunud igamehe strateegia aruteluks. See ei ole otseselt halb, aga parem on, kui strateegia on ühes kohas ja selleks on strateegia alafoorumid.

Varsti täiendan ka reeglit.

Said vist valesti aru. Sinu käed on OK ja see on täiesti OK, kui need tekitavad arutelu. Miks ei võiks seda teha? Point on see, et ei postitaks käsi, mis ilmselgelt käivad strateegia alafoorumisse.

Näiteks su straight-flushi käsi. Kui sa postitaks selle: palju te turnil betite ja tood välja readid, siis see on ju ilmselge strateegia käsi. Antud hetkel on see selline semi-hand. Ei vääri eraldi teemat. Teiseks on ta brag ja samas ka blogilik käsi, mis jäi kripeldama. See on ju väga hea, kui sa selle postitad ja lisaks saad tagasisidet.

Keeruline selgitada, aga arvan, et saad pointist aru.

[muttaja]

Ega ma tegelt selliseid pesuehtsaid strateegiakäsi ei julgekski siia postitada. Liiga palju eestlasi mängivad samu mänge ja hirm on suur, et äkki saavad midagi mu mängu kohta teada

[muttaja]

Hästi hittisin ühe BE regulari vastu. Väga väikse aja jooksul kõik käed. Flippis vist natuke ära kui ma ei tahtnud kudiagi 3betile foldida.

1. Kahjuks teises jooksus sai masti kokku.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $89.15 (44.6 bb)
UTG: $188.98 (94.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $204.60 (102.3 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $301.40 (150.7 bb)
SB: $243.32 (121.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39) 8 J K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $24, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($87) T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $48, Hero raises to $162.60 and is all-in, CO calls $110 and is all-in

River: ($403) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 J K T 9
Hero showed J J and won $200.10 ($0.10 net)
CO showed K A and won $200.10 ($0.10 net)

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2.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $79.93 (40 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $210 (105 bb)
CO: $226.23 (113.1 bb)
BTN: $227.32 (113.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 9
Hero raises to $6, CO raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39) T 9 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($39) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $28, CO calls $28

River: ($95) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $62, CO calls $62

Results: $219 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 9 Q 4 Q
Hero showed 9 9 and won $216.20 ($108.20 net)
CO mucked J T and lost (-$108 net)

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3.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $208.38 (104.2 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $127.13 (63.6 bb)
Hero (UTG): $326.20 (163.1 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)
CO: $228.65 (114.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $6, MP folds, CO raises to $17.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $11.25

Flop: ($37.50) 8 6 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $22, Hero raises to $60, CO calls $38

Turn: ($157.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $248.95 and is all-in, CO folds

Results: $157.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 6 3 3
Hero mucked J J and won $154.70 ($77.45 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$77.25 net)

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Edit: tuli meelde, et üks käsi oli temaga veel. Juhtus teisena.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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BTN: $299.66 (149.8 bb)
SB: $53.76 (26.9 bb)
BB: $80 (40 bb)
Hero (MP): $241.16 (120.6 bb)
CO: $211.82 (105.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q K
Hero raises to $6, CO raises to $17.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $11.25

Flop: ($37.50) 8 J 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $30, Hero raises to $223.91 and is all-in, CO folds

Results: $97.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 J 2
Hero mucked Q K and won $94.70 ($47.45 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$47.25 net)

[muttaja]

Miski uus tegelane, täna nägin esimest korda. Vist ikka regular. Aga lasi küll väga agrolt. Poleks pihta saanud, oli plaan bettida miski 55% potti ja reppida overpairi.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $209 (104.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $338.37 (169.2 bb)
BTN: $207 (103.5 bb)
SB: $129.92 (65 bb)
BB: $241.17 (120.6 bb)
UTG: $113.60 (56.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $5, SB calls $4, BB folds

Flop: ($17) T 3 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, BTN calls $14, SB folds

Turn: ($45) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $36, BTN calls $36

River: ($117) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $94, Hero calls $94

Results: $305 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: T 3 4 3 2
Hero showed 6 Q and won $302.85 ($153.85 net)
BTN showed J T and lost (-$149 net)

[p0l1]

#1555 - miks siin käes riveris check/call ja mitte check/raise ?

[Mrt1989]

#1555 - miks siin käes riveris check/call ja mitte check/raise ?

Milline halvem käsi meid callib siis ? Paardunud board ja meil on Q high flush.

[kjmrc]

Milline halvem käsi meid callib siis ? Paardunud board ja meil on Q high flush.

^^ Kui tegu on regiga, siis tõepoolest ei saa me siit halvemalt käelt calli.

[Owner85]

foldib seal käe mis pole küll flush jattes 50 taha endale?

[timz0333]

Vastasel üldse seal väga raske omada kätt mis herot biidib imo.