[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[Kaitz20]

KQ bettimises AA999 boardil- arvan, et see on ok, sest kui tihti vastane teeb ikka slwoplayed turnil ning hero splitib kõige muude kaartide peale Ax, 9x- ga. Minu mure checkimisel on see, et vastane võib pottida riveris ning see seab meid viletsamasse olukord kui half pot riveril.

[muttaja]

Tänase esimese sessiga 3BI plussi vahelduseks, ent teise sessi aguses 20 mintiga 5BI läinud... päeva lõpuks nullis. Mis on muidugi kõva edasiminek võrreldes kahe viimase mängupäevaga, kus jäin kokku 20BI kahjumisse :P

1. Shortstäkkeri vastu. Pmst ainuke käsi, mida ta võiks nii mängida ja muidugi tal on see...

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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SB: $77.40 (38.7 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $80 (40 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K 9
Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $5, 2 folds

Flop: ($13) 8 Q K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($13) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8

River: ($29) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN raises to $67 and is all-in, Hero calls $47

Results: $163 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 8 Q K 5 Q
Hero showed K 9 and lost (-$80 net)
BTN showed A Q and won $161.50 ($81.50 net)

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2. ei olegi rohkem. Sain igavates kohtades peksa.

[Kaitz20]

Kas river ei peaks olema c/c või regularid callivad Sind maha viletsamate kätega? (8x, 5x ja vahepeal 99-JJ)

[muttaja]

Lähtusin flopi ch-back range'ist.

[muttaja]

Tegin hea sessi. Tunne oli hea ja ka käed jooksid alguses. Laudu oli vähe ja mängisin pea tunni HU-d rändom 50-600 bumhunteri vastu. Skill oli ikka piinlik. Tagus oma raudset süsteemi ja ei midagi muud. Naljkas oli see, et tüüp ei quitind ära ka...

Muidugi enne sessi lõppu jooksin ühe godmodeva suht nõrge regulari (paar päeva tagasi postitatud kätes kaks esimest tema vastu, kus näiteks OOP setmine'is JJ-ga. Ja krt see pask ikka jätkub) vastu järgnevalt:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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CO: $162.76 (81.4 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $209 (104.5 bb)
BB: $237.33 (118.7 bb)
MP: $390.66 (195.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 3
2 folds, BTN raises to $4.04, Hero raises to $15, BB folds, BTN calls $10.96

Flop: ($32) 3 T 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN calls $20

Turn: ($72) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $48, BTN raises to $165 and is all-in, Hero calls $117

River: ($402) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $402 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 T 2 8 2
BTN showed 8 8 and won $399.20 ($199.20 net)
Hero showed 3 3 and lost (-$200 net)

[muttaja]

Kas see on pigem valuebeti või blufcatchi koht? Ütleme infot omamata, aga kindlasti regulari vastu

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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MP: $209.96 (105 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $62.73 (31.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $224.50 (112.3 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
3 folds, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3

Flop: ($10) 8 8 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($10) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

River: ($20) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BB folds

Results: $20 pot ($0.90 rake)
Final Board: 8 8 4 Q 8
Hero mucked A J and won $19.10 ($9.10 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$10 net)

[muttaja]

Üks lahe käsi ka tänasest sessist

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $140.80 (70.4 bb)
BB: $183.79 (91.9 bb)
UTG: $205 (102.5 bb)
MP: $352.58 (176.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $217.36 (108.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 J
2 folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $5, 2 folds

Flop: ($13) 4 7 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN calls $10

Turn: ($33) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, BTN raises to $34, Hero calls $27

River: ($101) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Results: $101 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 7 8 2 5
Hero showed 9 J and won $98.20 ($49.20 net)
BTN mucked T 9 and lost (-$49 net)

(ära küsi - ei mäleta, miks nii mängisin. Sessi alguses mõtted liiguvad meeletul kiirusel ja genereerivad erinevaid lahendusi, aga praegu, ühtul, pärast nelja tundi pokkerit, ei oska ma küll midagi tarka kosta)

[muttaja]

Tänane teine sess 4,5 BI plussi! Mingi hetk hakkasin hösti jooksa. Paljud head käed jäid kinni maksmmata (nt riverdatud royal 3bet potis :P) ent nii mõndekdi maksti.

1. Üks regular flippis ära. Juba mitu päeva 3betib mind igal võimalusel. Ei tea, mis pointi ta üritab tõestada.. Eks täna olid mul vastavad käed ka, aga no ta oleks saanud ikka kõvasti raha kokku hoida

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $236.03 (118 bb)
Hero (CO): $206 (103 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $387.43 (193.7 bb)
BB: $312.14 (156.1 bb)
UTG: $80 (40 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN raises to $14, 2 folds, Hero raises to $33, BTN raises to $54, Hero calls $21

Flop: ($111) 4 8 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($111) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $31, Hero raises to $152 and is all-in, BTN calls $115 and is all-in

River: ($403) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 8 5 T T
Hero showed A A and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)
BTN showed A K and lost (-$200 net)

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2.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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UTG: $324.07 (162 bb)
MP: $425.55 (212.8 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $225.65 (112.8 bb)
SB: $204 (102 bb)
BB: $139.68 (69.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 4
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $16, BB folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($34) 4 7 3 (2 players)
SB bets $19, Hero raises to $50, SB calls $31

Turn: ($134) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $159.65 and is all-in, SB calls $138 and is all-in

River: ($410) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $410 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 7 3 9 A
Hero showed 4 4 and won $407.20 ($203.20 net)
SB showed 8 T and lost (-$204 net)

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3.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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MP: $203 (101.5 bb)
CO: $569.75 (284.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $475.51 (237.8 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $110.68 (55.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T T
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $16, BB folds, Hero raises to $36, SB calls $20

Flop: ($74) T 8 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $36, SB raises to $162, Hero raises to $288, SB calls $2 and is all-in

Turn: ($402) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($402) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $402 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 8 4 5 6
Hero showed T T and won $399.20 ($199.20 net)
SB showed A 8 and lost (-$200 net)

[muttaja]

Hiromantlus on levinud ka meie väiksesse pokkerikogukonda:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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BB: $216.91 (108.5 bb)
CO: $58.06 (29 bb)
Hero (BTN): $279.14 (139.6 bb)
SB: $353.36 (176.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A
CO folds, Hero raises to $4, SB folds, BB raises to $16, Hero raises to $32, BB calls $16

Flop: ($65) Q 4 T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $28, BB calls $28

Turn: ($121) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $54, BB calls $54

River: ($229) A (2 players)
BB bets $102.91 and is all-in, Hero calls $102.91

Results: $434.82 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: Q 4 T 7 A
BB showed K J and won $433.32 ($216.41 net)
Hero showed Q A and lost (-$216.91 net)

[fyte]

Jep, 10-oudine tõmmati riverisse ära - midagi ennekuulmatut.

[Pyha Karu]

Kas midagi mida biidid donkab kah riverit seal? A 10 pole suurel enamusel 3 bet steal rangeis ja J 9s vist nii tihti 4 bete ei callita kui K J-ga. 8 9s blufib vahel seal?
Kuigi jah selliseid folde ei tee vist keegi.

[muttaja]

Nõme sess. AK-ga mõlemad flipid kaotasin, mõlemad 2 korda jooksutatud. Lauad olid head ja käsi ka nagu oli, aga valuet ei õnnestunud kuidagi saada. Lõpuks siis 4BI miinust, sama palju ka alla EV. Kui laudu kinni panin, siis kirsiks tordile selline käsi:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): $225.48 (112.7 bb)
BB: $355.36 (177.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T A
Hero raises to $4, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($28) 7 4 6 (2 players)
BB bets $17, Hero calls $17

Turn: ($62) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $48, BB calls $48

River: ($158) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $146.48 and is all-in, BB calls $146.48

Results: $450.96 pot ($0.50 rake)
Final Board: 7 4 6 5 3
Hero showed T A and lost (-$225.48 net)
BB showed 8 8 and won $450.46 ($224.98 net)

[muttaja]

No milleks mulle ässad?

1.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $218.15 (109.1 bb)
BTN: $222 (111 bb)
SB: $214.14 (107.1 bb)
BB: $177.38 (88.7 bb)
Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
MP: $221.31 (110.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $6, MP raises to $18, 4 folds, Hero raises to $38, MP calls $20

Flop: ($79) Q 4 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $38, MP calls $38

Turn: ($155) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $124 and is all-in, MP calls $124

River: ($403) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 4 2 Q 2
Hero showed A A and lost (-$200 net)
MP showed A Q and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)

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2. Ja terve elu minu vastu godmodes olnud masstableri vastu

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $242.84 (121.4 bb)
BB: $294.06 (147 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $222.20 (111.1 bb)
BTN: $210.05 (105 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
MP folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN folds, SB raises to $18, BB folds, Hero calls $13

Flop: ($38) T A J (2 players)
SB bets $23, Hero calls $23

Turn: ($84) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $45, Hero calls $45

River: ($174) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $138, Hero calls $136.20 and is all-in

Results: $446.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T A J 8 6
SB showed Q K and won $443.60 ($221.40 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$222.20 net)

[leits]

AT käsi HUs on kyll way overplayed imo

[muttaja]

Ma usun, et need korrad, kui vastane usub ja otsustab foldida balansseerivad üksikud kaheksad

[leits]

oleneb muidugi vastasest aga ma usun mingi 99% ajast ch ma riveri järgi

[Pyha Karu]

A 10 on ideaalselt mängitud. Väga harva on tal seal endal 8x või flush ja samas sinu enda rangeis on need kõvasti rohkem.

Ainult see A A vs A Q turni shove paistab halb.

[Ghost0]

A 10 on ideaalselt mängitud. Väga harva on tal seal endal 8x või flush ja samas sinu enda rangeis on need kõvasti rohkem.

Ainult see A A vs A Q turni shove paistab halb.

Bluff tundub igaljuhul kasumlik jah. Ainult m6ne vaala vastu checkiks j2rgi.
Mis liini sa AA'ga turnis v6taksid siis?

[muttaja]

Aga kui sina checkid 99% järele, siis võiks ju seda ju eeldada ka paljudest teistest regularidest. Ja sellisel juhul on bet üpris hirmuäratav?

[muttaja]

Lõpetasin teise sessi ära, avasin õlle ja hakkasin quarterly freerolli mängima. See muidugi ikaldus (pole kunagi ühtki cashi saanud). Võtsin ka ühe laua pl25 omahat zoomis lahti. Kui turna läbi, võtsin teise veel ja eesmärgiks 1000 kätt ära teha. Omahat olengi elus vast umbes sama palju käsi varem mänginud. Ses mõttes kordaminek - rakeback proks sobiks ikka.

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