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  1. #1741

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    jep

  2. #1742
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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Kui oleks hittinud oleks ikka ise viimase raha sisse pannud.

    Või sa mõtled, et kui ta oleks lihtsalt turni callinud, siis mis riveri plaan oleks? Kui just mingit head riidi pole, siis enamasti vast ch-foldiks. Fiššidele tuleb ka respekti anda ja lubada neil käsi mõnikord bluffiga võita :). Enam nii täpselt ei mäleta ka.
    Viimati muudetud muttaja poolt : 04.09.13 at 06:18

  3. #1743

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    No sa mainisid, et shovid turni, sest vastasel võib vahel nõrgem draw olla. Riveril fish oma Ax enam ei beti ja väga suure tõenäosusega oleks 2 paari ja parema turnis shovinud. Tundub küll pot oddside koha pealt herocall nõrgema flushdraw vastu

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Muttaja mäng selles käes on täiesti OK.

    Arvestades et võib tõesti vahest nõrgemaga bluffida(ilmselt mitte küllalt tihti), siis pole väga vahet kas river on call või x/f.

    Kui hitib siis donkshove anyway.

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Valus algus ikka kuule. Kõik sessid miinuses, osad rohkem, osad vähem.

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    1. Deep lauad... ei õnnestu. Lähene kuidas tahad.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (UTG): $522.89 (261.4 bb)
    MP: $569.74 (284.9 bb)
    CO: $203 (101.5 bb)
    BTN: $778.69 (389.3 bb)
    SB: $244.20 (122.1 bb)
    BB: $545.74 (272.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
    Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, SB raises to $28, BB calls $26, Hero raises to $78, SB folds, BB calls $50

    Flop: ($186.40) 6 5 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $118, BB calls $118

    Turn: ($422.40) 7 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $326.49 and is all-in, BB calls $326.49

    River: ($1,075.38) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $1,075.38 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 6 5 3 7 A
    Hero showed K K and lost (-$522.89 net)
    BB showed 8 9 and won $1,072.58 ($549.69 net)

    ************************

    2. Ning mõni aeg hiljem samas lauas.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (MP): $502.80 (251.4 bb)
    CO: $217.77 (108.9 bb)
    BTN: $821.80 (410.9 bb)
    SB: $433.86 (216.9 bb)
    BB: $976.03 (488 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
    Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, SB raises to $28, BB folds, Hero raises to $66, SB calls $38

    Flop: ($136) 4 4 K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $56, SB calls $56

    Turn: ($248) Q (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($248) 7 (2 players)
    SB bets $132, Hero folds

    Results: $248 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 4 4 K Q 7
    Hero mucked A A and lost (-$122.40 net)
    SB mucked and won $245.20 ($122.80 net)

    ***************************

    3. Veel 5 minti läheb mööda ja... tildine?

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    Hero (BTN): $500 (250 bb)
    SB: $500 (250 bb)
    BB: $265.17 (132.6 bb)
    UTG: $820.60 (410.3 bb)
    MP: $555.86 (277.9 bb)
    CO: $932.38 (466.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2 2
    2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 2 folds

    Flop: ($17.40) 7 5 5 (2 players)
    CO bets $12, Hero calls $12

    Turn: ($41.40) 4 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $30, CO calls $30

    River: ($101.40) 5 (2 players)
    CO bets $68, Hero calls $68

    Results: $237.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 5 5 4 5
    Hero mucked 2 2 and lost (-$116.40 net)
    CO showed A A and won $234.60 ($118.20 net)



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    4. Tahtsin fišši vastu rahad kiiresti sisse saada. A regularil juhtus ka käsi olema

    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    Hero (SB): $447.20 (111.8 bb)
    BB: $154 (38.5 bb)
    UTG: $400 (100 bb)
    MP: $317.64 (79.4 bb)
    CO: $408.57 (102.1 bb)
    BTN: $837.66 (209.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 6
    UTG raises to $12, MP calls $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $10, BB folds

    Flop: ($40) 8 5 7 (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $28, MP calls $28, Hero raises to $112, UTG calls $84, MP calls $84

    Turn: ($376) A (3 players)
    Hero bets $323.20 and is all-in, UTG calls $276 and is all-in, MP calls $193.64 and is all-in

    River: ($1,121.64) J (3 players, 3 are all-in)

    Results: $1,121.64 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 5 7 A J
    Hero showed 8 6 and won $0.00 (-$400 net)
    UTG showed 8 8 and won $1,118.84 ($718.84 net)
    MP showed A 9 and lost (-$317.64 net)

    *************************

    5. Cmon

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    CO: $218.50 (109.3 bb)
    BTN: $204.59 (102.3 bb)
    Hero (SB): $220.38 (110.2 bb)
    BB: $236.47 (118.2 bb)
    MP: $228.10 (114.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 8
    MP raises to $5, CO folds, BTN calls $5, Hero raises to $26, 2 folds, BTN calls $21

    Flop: ($59) 6 5 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $42, BTN calls $42

    Turn: ($143) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $152.38 and is all-in, BTN calls $136.59 and is all-in

    River: ($416.18) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $416.18 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 6 5 3 7 9
    BTN showed 7 8 and won $206.69 ($2.10 net)
    Hero showed 8 8 and won $206.69 ($2.10 net)

  7. #1747
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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Tänane pooleteist tunni saak...


    Puudub jaks kommenteerida


    1.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    BB: $235.40 (117.7 bb)
    Hero (MP): $515.17 (257.6 bb)
    CO: $191.40 (95.7 bb)
    BTN: $458.06 (229 bb)
    SB: $501.40 (250.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with K K
    Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, BB raises to $22, Hero calls $14

    Flop: ($47) 2 7 7 (2 players)
    BB bets $24, Hero calls $24

    Turn: ($95) T (2 players)
    BB bets $42, Hero raises to $468.77 and is all-in, BB calls $147 and is all-in

    River: ($473) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $473 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 2 7 7 T 4
    BB showed A A and won $470.20 ($234.80 net)
    Hero mucked K K and lost (-$235.40 net)

    *************************

    2. Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    MP: $200 (100 bb)
    Hero (CO): $500 (250 bb)
    BTN: $587.21 (293.6 bb)
    SB: $683.16 (341.6 bb)
    BB: $479.06 (239.5 bb)
    UTG: $439.63 (219.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
    UTG calls $2, MP folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, BB calls $8, UTG calls $8

    Flop: ($33.40) 4 9 Q (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $24, BB folds, UTG calls $24

    Turn: ($81.40) 2 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $60, UTG calls $60

    River: ($201.40) 3 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $134, UTG calls $134

    Results: $469.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 4 9 Q 2 3
    Hero showed K K and lost (-$228.40 net)
    UTG showed 9 2 and won $466.60 ($238.20 net)

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    3.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    MP: $260.84 (130.4 bb)
    CO: $224.16 (112.1 bb)
    BTN: $932.73 (466.4 bb)
    Hero (SB): $505.11 (252.6 bb)
    BB: $500 (250 bb)
    UTG: $268.10 (134.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
    UTG raises to $6, 2 folds, BTN calls $6, Hero raises to $34, 2 folds, BTN calls $28

    Flop: ($78.40) T Q 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $54, BTN calls $54

    Turn: ($186.40) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $108, Hero calls $108

    River: ($402.40) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $316, Hero folds

    Results: $402.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: T Q 3 A 2
    BTN mucked and won $399.60 ($203.20 net)
    Hero mucked Q A and lost (-$196.40 net)

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    4.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    CO: $269.15 (134.6 bb)
    BTN: $206.22 (103.1 bb)
    SB: $1,074.46 (537.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $531.20 (265.6 bb)
    UTG: $520.34 (260.2 bb)
    MP: $295.54 (147.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
    4 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero raises to $18, SB calls $14

    Flop: ($38.40) 9 T J (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($38.40) 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $32, Hero calls $32

    River: ($102.40) 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $72, Hero calls $72

    Results: $246.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 9 T J 4 4
    SB showed Q K and won $243.60 ($121.20 net)
    Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$122.40 net)

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    5.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $200 (100 bb)
    Hero (BB): $533.07 (266.5 bb)
    UTG: $536.61 (268.3 bb)
    MP: $602.60 (301.3 bb)
    CO: $480.91 (240.5 bb)
    BTN: $425.76 (212.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
    UTG folds, MP raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero calls $4

    Flop: ($15.40) 7 8 K (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $8, Hero calls $8

    Turn: ($31.40) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $20, Hero calls $20

    River: ($71.40) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $50, Hero calls $50

    Results: $171.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 8 K 3 9
    Hero mucked A K and lost (-$84.40 net)
    MP showed 7 7 and won $168.60 ($84.20 net)

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    6.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    UTG: $165.20 (82.6 bb)
    MP: $218.17 (109.1 bb)
    CO: $200 (100 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
    SB: $206.32 (103.2 bb)
    BB: $200 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
    UTG raises to $6, MP folds, CO calls $6, Hero raises to $22, SB calls $21, 2 folds, CO calls $16

    Flop: ($74) 8 4 9 (3 players)
    SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $38, SB calls $38, CO folds

    Turn: ($150) K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($150) 7 (2 players)
    SB bets $146.32 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Results: $150 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 4 9 K 7
    Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$60 net)
    SB mucked and won $147.20 ($87.20 net)

  8. #1748

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    vähemalt lotot biidid! :)

  9. #1749
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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas runnar Vaata postitust
    vähemalt lotot biidid! :)
    See oli nüüd küll tore üllatus!

    Aga kas piletit saab rahaks ka teha?

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Küsin uuesti, et kas mingit muud võimalust peale turnast osa võtmise pole?

  11. #1751

    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    no vaata kas saad maha registreerida või mitte. enamus piletitega saab. siis saad selle summa turna dollarites. need mängi kasvõi hyperites läbi kui tahad.

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Otse raha ei saa aga kui ei lase unreg-dt$ teha siis kirjuta suporti ja palu kas turnataalu või vähemalt väiksemaid pileteid(kõige tõenäolisem).

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Esimene "normaalne" sess sel kuul selja taga, ehk esiemne plussis (2,5BI) kui mitte arvestada ühte 1/4 BI nalja. Natuke positiivseid emotsioone, mis aitavad ehk edasi võidelda.

    Üks fiššine reg (nö okei statsidega mängija, kes laseb ikka vahel paarkümmed tuhat kätt kuus, winrate ca -6) suutis sessi keskel natuke tuju rikkuda, kui kõik kolm suurt kätt ära splittisime. 4 minutise vahega 3 kätt kronoloogilises järjekorras:

    1. BB ka reg. Natuke müstika, mis sellise sizingu point on. Samas ta avab btnilt ka 3-3,5bb; isob 1>5bb. Aga winrate on korralik.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $491.61 (245.8 bb)
    Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
    BB: $262.20 (131.1 bb)
    UTG: $203 (101.5 bb)
    MP: $229.20 (114.6 bb)
    CO: $67.49 (33.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
    3 folds, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $16, BB raises to $48, BTN calls $44, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, BB folds, BTN calls $152

    Flop: ($448) 2 A 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: ($448) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($448) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $448 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 2 A 6 5 K
    BTN showed Q A and won $222.60 ($22.60 net)
    Hero showed A K and won $222.60 ($22.60 net)

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    2.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $200 (100 bb)
    SB: $294.56 (147.3 bb)
    BB: $229.40 (114.7 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
    MP: $226.84 (113.4 bb)
    CO: $334.70 (167.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with J J
    Hero raises to $6, MP raises to $18, 4 folds, Hero calls $12

    Flop: ($39) 9 7 J (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $20, Hero raises to $60, MP raises to $208.84 and is all-in, Hero calls $122 and is all-in

    Turn: ($403) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($403) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 9 7 J 2 A
    Hero showed J J and won $200.10 ($0.10 net)
    MP showed A A and won $200.10 ($0.10 net)

    ********************'

    3. Üldjuhul väga ei norita, kui ollakse just napilt eluga pääsenud, aga no sellest lambast võis kõike uskuda

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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    BB: $200 (100 bb)
    CO: $293.56 (146.8 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
    SB: $224.94 (112.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A
    CO folds, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $16, BB folds, Hero raises to $34, SB raises to $224.94 and is all-in, Hero calls $166 and is all-in

    Flop: ($402) 3 8 J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: ($402) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($402) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $402 pot ($1.50 rake)
    Final Board: 3 8 J 4 J
    Hero showed Q A and won $200.25 ($0.25 net)
    SB showed T K and won $200.25 ($0.25 net)

  14. #1754
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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Oota miks viimases split? Wtf :D

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas kjmrc Vaata postitust
    Oota miks viimases split? Wtf :D
    Äkki RIT?

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Tsitaat Algselt postitas bluelite Vaata postitust
    Äkki RIT?
    No see on ainuke variant jah, aga imo kui on RIT siis tuleb ka HH vastavalt sellele teistsugune.

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Ei oska vaielda selle koha pealt. Samas nt käsi nr 2. JJ vs AA on ka split, seega eeldan siiski, et tegu on RIT'ga

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    Eks käe omanik oskab kommentaare jagada :D

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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    No tekstis on ju kõik kirjas

    ...kui kõik kolm suurt kätt ära splittisime. 4 minutise vahega 3 kätt kronoloogilises järjekorras:...

    ja siis tulevad need 3 kätt järjest.

  20. #1760
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    Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

    See on see, kui ei loe mõttega asju läbi vahest :)

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