[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[Kotkas1000]

Eks ma olengi vb weak tightass aga ma lennutaks KK mucki vist bb asemel, kui limpraise saan. Ei ole seal veel kunagi midagi peale AA kohanud.

[muttaja]

Ma käsitleks limp-raise'i umbes sama moodi nagu coldcall-reraise'i. Suht tugev range, ent aegajalt ka bluffe sees.

[HerrJanks]

Ma käsitleks limp-raise'i umbes sama moodi nagu coldcall-reraise'i. Suht tugev range, ent aegajalt ka bluffe sees.

Kui tihti oled näinud regulari limpraisemas as bluff või ise niimoodi talitand ?

Miski ütleb mulle et mitte kuigi tihti...

[donkament]

Kui tihti oled näinud regulari limpraisemas as bluff või ise niimoodi talitand ?

Miski ütleb mulle et mitte kuigi tihti...

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[muttaja]

Ise olen seda küll vahel teinud miski suited connectoriga vms. aga rohkem for fun. Ei ole mingit matemaatilis-loogilist põhendust.

[muttaja]

Vahel peab ikka õnnestuama ka. Muidu oleks tegu nüri mänguga, kui ei oleks selliseid rõõmustavaid hetki.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $201.74 (100.9 bb)
BB: $139.20 (69.6 bb)
Hero (UTG): $567.46 (283.7 bb)
MP: $221.16 (110.6 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A J
Hero raises to $6, 4 folds, BB raises to $20, Hero calls $14

Flop: ($41) T 4 5 (2 players)
BB bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($81) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $99.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $99.20

River: ($279.40) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $279.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 4 5 3 Q
BB showed K J and lost (-$139.20 net)
Hero showed A J and won $276.60 ($137.40 net)

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No muidugi oli käele eelnenud see:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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BTN: $210.88 (105.4 bb)
SB: $207.48 (103.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $311.44 (155.7 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 Q
2 folds, BTN raises to $4.14, SB calls $3.14, Hero raises to $18, BTN folds, SB calls $13.86

Flop: ($40.14) 4 9 T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $28, SB raises to $56, Hero raises to $293.44 and is all-in, SB calls $133.48 and is all-in

Turn: ($419.10) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($419.10) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $419.10 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 9 T 6 5
SB showed 9 T and lost (-$207.48 net)
Hero showed 7 Q and won $416.30 ($208.82 net)

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Ja siis veel see otsa :)

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG: $203.74 (101.9 bb)
MP: $227.20 (113.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $476.26 (238.1 bb)
BTN: $221.16 (110.6 bb)
SB: $201 (100.5 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A 8
UTG folds, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, MP calls $6

Flop: ($19) 9 T A (2 players)
MP bets $10, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($39) 3 (2 players)
MP bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($79) 7 (2 players)
MP bets $50, Hero calls $50

Results: $179 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 T A 3 7
MP showed Q 6 and lost (-$88 net)
Hero showed A 8 and won $176.20 ($88.20 net)

[muttaja]

Kogu selle limpimise teema jätkuks. No ei panda sind alati top range'i peale, kuigi sa igat pidi loogilsielt repid seda

Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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BTN: $187.50 (93.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $506.40 (253.2 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
CO: $506.13 (253.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
CO raises to $6, BTN folds, Hero calls $5, BB raises to $26, CO calls $20, Hero raises to $66, BB raises to $199.60 and is all-in, CO folds, Hero calls $133.60

Flop: ($426.80) 3 7 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($426.80) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($426.80) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $426.80 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 3 7 Q 3 2
Hero showed K K and won $212.65 ($12.65 net)
BB showed A Q and won $212.65 ($12.65 net)

[muttaja]

Jooksin täna kõvasti üle EV; samas rõvedad biidid EV joonel ei kajastu...

1. Suht asjalik regular. Minu käsi üpris face up ja mõnikord ikka bluffitakse. Ega ta mugav call pole. Vastane kukkus pärast vinguma ka.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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Hero (SB): $347.88 (173.9 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
MP1: $207 (103.5 bb)
MP2: $98.50 (49.3 bb)
MP3: $158 (79 bb)
CO: $344.58 (172.3 bb)
BTN: $175.69 (87.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
3 folds, CO raises to $6, BTN calls $6, Hero raises to $30, BB folds, CO calls $24, BTN calls $24

Flop: ($92) J 4 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $44, CO calls $44, BTN folds

Turn: ($180) T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($180) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $104, CO raises to $270.58 and is all-in, Hero calls $166.58

Results: $721.16 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 4 3 T 2
Hero showed K K and won $718.36 ($373.78 net)
CO showed 5 9 and lost (-$344.58 net)

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2. Hiljem sama tüübi vastu aga selline õnnetus :/. Mul meeldib sellisel turnil ch-raisida ka, ent too tüüp oli üpris passiivne ja ma arvan, et ma ei saa seal piisavalt tihti bette

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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Hero (BB): $743.51 (371.8 bb)
MP1: $200 (100 bb)
MP2: $216.32 (108.2 bb)
MP3: $272.54 (136.3 bb)
CO: $246.42 (123.2 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $143 (71.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A Q
4 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB calls $3, Hero raises to $18, BTN calls $14, SB folds

Flop: ($40) Q 2 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN calls $20

Turn: ($80) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $46, BTN calls $46

River: ($172) J (2 players)
Hero bets $659.51 and is all-in, BTN calls $116 and is all-in

Results: $404 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 2 2 7 J
Hero showed A Q and lost (-$200 net)
BTN showed Q J and won $401.20 ($201.20 net)

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3. Õu mai gaad... Varasemalt vaalaks märgitud tüübi vastu 1. käsi...

Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $259.40 (129.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $581.54 (290.8 bb)
BTN: $222.38 (111.2 bb)
SB: $506.08 (253 bb)
BB: $500 (250 bb)
UTG: $217.02 (108.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 2
UTG folds, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, BB calls $6, MP calls $6

Flop: ($27.40) 3 A 3 (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $14, BB calls $14, MP folds

Turn: ($55.40) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $36, BB raises to $72, Hero calls $36

River: ($199.40) J (2 players)
BB bets $153, Hero calls $153

Results: $505.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 A 3 2 J
Hero mucked 2 2 and lost (-$247.40 net)
BB showed A A and won $502.60 ($255.20 net)

[muttaja]

Oli ikka kõva plaan 100h täis teha. Aga täna ei leidnud kuidagi võimalust puuduvad 2h23 minti ära teha ja nii ta tegemata jäigi. Nl200 9,52 BB/100, mis on täitsa kena. Aga nl400-s andisin 6000 käega 5BI ära. Aprillis võtan uuesti 400 käsile ja üritan kui mitte jooksma, siis vähemalt käima saada.



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[pikk28]

wp!

[muttaja]

Ei mäletagi, millal oleks sellise hooletusvea teinud. Ehk ei märganud, et üks fullstäkk veel mängus sees. Ja kahjuks juhtus tal käsi ka olema :/

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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MP3: $85.88 (42.9 bb)
CO: $93.64 (46.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $385.20 (192.6 bb)
SB: $80 (40 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $212 (106 bb)
UTG+2: $97.15 (48.6 bb)
MP1: $200 (100 bb)
MP2: $332.49 (166.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A J
2 folds, MP1 raises to $5, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $12, CO calls $12, Hero calls $12, 2 folds, MP1 calls $7

Flop: ($51) 7 4 J (4 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 bets $18, CO calls $18, Hero raises to $373.20 and is all-in, MP1 calls $188 and is all-in, 2 folds

Turn: ($463.00) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($463.00) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $463.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 4 J 6 9
MP3 mucked and lost (-$30 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$30 net)
Hero mucked A J and lost (-$200 net)
MP1 showed 7 7 and won $460.20 ($260.20 net)

[muttaja]

Aga 85o-ga on ka ilus stäkk saada :)

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $121.20 (60.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $203 (101.5 bb)
UTG: $84 (42 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)
CO: $259.45 (129.7 bb)
BTN: $262.50 (131.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 8
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($9) 8 5 K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6, Hero raises to $18, BTN calls $12

Turn: ($45) A (2 players)
Hero bets $30, BTN calls $30

River: ($105) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $58, BTN raises to $160, Hero calls $93 and is all-in

Results: $407 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 5 K A 8
Hero showed 5 8 and won $404.20 ($201.20 net)
BTN showed J 8 and lost (-$203 net)

[muttaja]

Krt kena pott oli :/

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $359.86 (179.9 bb)
BB: $441.06 (220.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $224.88 (112.4 bb)
MP: $205.42 (102.7 bb)
CO: $191 (95.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A 3
Hero raises to $6, MP calls $6, 3 folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($19) A J 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, MP calls $16, BB calls $16

Turn: ($67) 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $56, MP calls $56, BB calls $56

River: ($235) 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $146.88 and is all-in, MP calls $127.42, BB calls $146.88

Results: $656.18 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A J 2 3 3
BB showed 4 Q and lost (-$224.88 net)
Hero showed A 3 and won $38.92 (-$185.96 net)
MP showed J J and won $614.46 ($409.04 net)

[muttaja]

Selline loodusõnnetus ka:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $238.07 (119 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $120 (60 bb)
MP: $252 (126 bb)
Hero (CO): $417.07 (208.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 T
UTG folds, MP raises to $4, Hero calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($11) Q 7 J (2 players)
MP bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($23) 9 (2 players)
MP bets $18, Hero calls $18

River: ($59) 8 (2 players)
MP bets $42, Hero raises to $112, MP raises to $186, Hero calls $74

Results: $431 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 7 J 9 8
MP showed T K and won $428.20 ($214.20 net)
Hero mucked 9 T and lost (-$214 net)

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Sama tüübi stiilinäide mõned ringid varem:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP: $314.57 (157.3 bb)
CO: $87 (43.5 bb)
BTN: $129.01 (64.5 bb)
SB: $349.58 (174.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $203 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 K
3 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($8) K K 4 (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $10

Turn: ($36) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24

River: ($84) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $54, Hero raises to $108, SB calls $54

Results: $300 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: K K 4 J 4
SB mucked Q Q and lost (-$150 net)
Hero showed 8 K and won $297.20 ($147.20 net)

[muttaja]

Varem oli fullring see, kus tuli suht stabiilne pluss. Viimasel ajal on aga raisad õppinud ära tõmabama, mis täna päädis sellega, et vaala vastu AA ei pidanud AKo vastu preflop AI üle 100bb...

[muttaja]

Üks võidukäsi ka:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $212.99 (106.5 bb)
BTN: $285.58 (142.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $295 (147.5 bb)
BB: $95 (47.5 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
2 folds, BTN raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, BB folds, BTN calls $14

Flop: ($42) 9 J A (2 players)
Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24

Turn: ($90) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $56, BTN calls $56

River: ($202) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $185.58, Hero calls $185.58

Results: $573.16 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 J A 5 2
BTN showed 8 T and lost (-$285.58 net)
Hero showed A Q and won $570.36 ($284.78 net)

[Pythagoras]

Üks võidukäsi ka:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $212.99 (106.5 bb)
BTN: $285.58 (142.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $295 (147.5 bb)
BB: $95 (47.5 bb)
MP: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
2 folds, BTN raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, BB folds, BTN calls $14

Flop: ($42) 9 J A (2 players)
Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24

Turn: ($90) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $56, BTN calls $56

River: ($202) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $185.58, Hero calls $185.58

Results: $573.16 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 J A 5 2
BTN showed 8 T and lost (-$285.58 net)
Hero showed A Q and won $570.36 ($284.78 net)

Vastase asemel oleksid turnis tõstnud?

[muttaja]

Oleneb. Kui ma tean, et mul fold equityt sisuliselt pole, siis on mõistlik callida.

[muttaja]

Tät was cool!

Tegu veel regulariga ka. BB-l obv fišš.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $199 (99.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $201.74 (100.9 bb)
SB: $266.56 (133.3 bb)
BB: $117.53 (58.8 bb)
UTG: $236.30 (118.2 bb)
MP: $222.24 (111.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 2
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3, BB raises to $12.76, Hero calls $8.76, SB calls $8.76

Flop: ($38.28) Q 4 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $27, Hero raises to $188.98, SB calls $188.98, BB folds

Turn: ($443.24) 7 (2 players)
River: ($443.24) 5 (2 players)

Results: $443.24 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 4 2 7 5
Hero showed 4 2 and won $440.44 ($238.70 net)
SB showed A A and lost (-$201.74 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$39.76 net)

[muttaja]

Peaks olema bet-foldi koht? Siuke 50/0 madala agressiivusega tüüp oli. Riveril tükk aega nuputas. Eks ma siis nuputasin vastu ja foldisin ära.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $440.68 (220.3 bb)
SB: $277.92 (139 bb)
BB: $94.24 (47.1 bb)
Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
MP: $203 (101.5 bb)
CO: $431.69 (215.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q A
Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BTN calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15) 3 4 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN calls $10

Turn: ($35) J (2 players)
Hero bets $26, BTN calls $26

River: ($87) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $60, BTN raises to $120, Hero folds

Results: $207 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 4 Q J Q
BTN mucked and won $204.20 ($102.20 net)
Hero mucked Q A and lost (-$102 net)