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  1. #241
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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Vahelduseks saab ka pihku itsitada:

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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    BTN: $138.30 (138.3 bb)
    SB: $152.81 (152.8 bb)
    BB: $174.48 (174.5 bb)
    Hero (UTG+1): $148.30 (148.3 bb)
    UTG+2: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
    MP1: $119.01 (119 bb)
    MP2: $323.54 (323.5 bb)
    MP3: $101.16 (101.2 bb)
    CO: $109.82 (109.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9 9
    Hero raises to $3, 6 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB folds

    Flop: ($7) 7 5 8 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($7) 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($7) 9 (2 players)
    SB bets $6.68, Hero raises to $33.71, SB raises to $149.81 and is all-in, Hero calls $111.59 and is all-in

    Results: $297.60 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 5 8 5 9
    SB showed 8 8 and won $0.00 (-$148.30 net)
    Hero showed 9 9 and won $294.80 ($146.50 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Miks chk backid twice?

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Ma ei näe siis kuskil mingit valuet. Flopil callib mind 66-ga on ainus võimalus. Samas bluffi korral ma jätkata ka ei saa. BBvUTG range on ikka ilgelt kitsas. Üldjuhul AK ja pocketid. Ehk ju ma mõtlesin, et nii on ainus võimalus saada valuet 22-44
    Viimati muudetud muttaja poolt : 20.04.12 at 12:25

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Proovisin vahelduseks vana ja õiget armastust 6-maxi, sest varem või hiljem peab nkn sinna tagasi liikuma, kui tahta kõrgemaid limiite mängida. Algas katastroofiliselt, mis lõpuks päädis katastroofilise käega:

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $264.83 (264.8 bb)
    SB: $184.15 (184.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $209.21 (209.2 bb)
    UTG: $273.83 (273.8 bb)
    MP: $128.44 (128.4 bb)
    CO: $100.50 (100.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
    UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO folds, BTN calls $3, SB folds, Hero calls $2

    Flop: ($9.50) 3 8 7 (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $7, Hero raises to $22, MP folds, BTN raises to $50, Hero raises to $206.21 and is all-in, BTN calls $156.21

    Turn: ($421.92) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($421.92) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $421.92 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 3 8 7 7 6
    BTN showed 8 8 and won $419.12 ($209.91 net)
    Hero showed Q A and lost (-$209.21 net)
    MP mucked and lost (-$3 net)



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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Mis käe peale vastase panid?

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Ilma dünaamikata/vastavate readideta pole eriti standard üle 200bb NFDga sisse uhada vast.

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Muidugi ei olnud tegu mõistliku otsusega... Eks mind meelitas see, et potis oli juba 80$.

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Või siis mõelda nii, et oled investeerinud 25$, 185$ on stacki alles ja vastasel on ülitugev range, mille vastu sul on alla 30% most likely.

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Ah, mine sa ka ...

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $45.50 (45.5 bb)
    SB: $55.48 (55.5 bb)
    BB: $100 (100 bb)
    UTG: $109.29 (109.3 bb)
    MP: $160.44 (160.4 bb)
    Hero (CO): $187.46 (187.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
    2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN raises to $10, 2 folds, Hero calls $7

    Flop: ($21.50) T Q 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($21.50) 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $177.46 and is all-in, BTN calls $35.50 and is all-in

    River: ($92.50) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $92.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: T Q 7 4 K
    BTN showed A J and won $89.70 ($44.20 net)
    Hero showed J J and lost (-$45.50 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Üks õnnestunud käsi ka :)

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $51.88 (51.9 bb)
    SB: $148.78 (148.8 bb)
    Hero (BB): $109.06 (109.1 bb)
    UTG: $228.76 (228.8 bb)
    MP: $163.09 (163.1 bb)
    CO: $137.63 (137.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 A
    UTG raises to $2, MP folds, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, SB folds, Hero calls $1

    Flop: ($8.50) 5 T 5 (4 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24, UTG calls $16

    Turn: ($56.50) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $37, Hero raises to $83.06 and is all-in, UTG calls $46.06

    River: ($222.62) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $222.62 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 5 T 5 6 K
    Hero showed 5 A and won $219.82 ($110.76 net)
    UTG showed 4 A and lost (-$109.06 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Vastase liin oli liiga jabur, et kuskil foldida. Riveril plaanisin obv nupud ise sisse panna, kui ta mulle chekib. Ent:

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $107.15 (107.2 bb)
    SB: $151.63 (151.6 bb)
    BB: $149.77 (149.8 bb)
    UTG: $206.72 (206.7 bb)
    MP: $157.71 (157.7 bb)
    Hero (CO): $149.27 (149.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
    UTG folds, MP raises to $2, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, MP calls $6

    Flop: ($17.50) 2 7 7 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $10, MP raises to $31, Hero calls $21

    Turn: ($79.50) 7 (2 players)
    MP bets $35, Hero calls $35

    River: ($149.50) J (2 players)
    MP bets $83.71, Hero calls $75.27

    Results: $300.04 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 2 7 7 7 J
    MP showed A J and won $148.62 (-$0.65 net)
    Hero showed J A and won $148.62 (-$0.65 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Hmm, comments?

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $145.37 (145.4 bb)
    SB: $121.82 (121.8 bb)
    BB: $109.83 (109.8 bb)
    UTG: $293.97 (294 bb)
    Hero (MP): $116.83 (116.8 bb)
    CO: $142.69 (142.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB folds

    Flop: ($7) 8 Q Q (2 players)
    SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

    Turn: ($15) Q (2 players)
    SB bets $9, Hero calls $9

    River: ($33) K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $23.64, SB raises to $58, Hero folds

    Results: $80.28 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 Q Q Q K
    SB mucked and won $77.48 ($37.84 net)
    Hero mucked A A and lost (-$39.64 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Wtff, never ei suudaks foldida siin - villain võis flopil & turnil dongata ka KJ vm random kätt, mis riveril pmtl 4nda nutsi hittis.. KK pole ranges ja teatavasti quadsi on ikka päris kuradi raske hittida.
    Aga eks ilma stattideta ja infita ole muidugi raskem hinnata ka olukorda, epic niti vastu ehk suudaks muckida.

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Hakkab tulema... Mõttega siis üldse herocalle teha

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $212.18 (212.2 bb)
    SB: $109.37 (109.4 bb)
    BB: $50 (50 bb)
    UTG: $125.92 (125.9 bb)
    MP: $312.10 (312.1 bb)
    Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
    UTG raises to $3, MP folds, Hero calls $3, BTN raises to $11, 2 folds, UTG calls $8, Hero calls $8

    Flop: ($34.50) K 2 K (3 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $24, UTG folds, Hero calls $24

    Turn: ($82.50) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $177.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $65 and is all-in

    River: ($212.50) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $212.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: K 2 K 2 T
    BTN showed T T and won $209.70 ($109.70 net)
    Hero showed J J and lost (-$100 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Ja muidugi kohe järele

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $136.30 (136.3 bb)
    SB: $62.59 (62.6 bb)
    BB: $198.18 (198.2 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $116.63 (116.6 bb)
    MP: $323.88 (323.9 bb)
    CO: $68.84 (68.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with J J
    Hero raises to $3, MP raises to $11, 4 folds, Hero calls $8

    Flop: ($23.50) 7 J 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $18, Hero raises to $40, MP raises to $312.88 and is all-in, Hero calls $65.63 and is all-in

    Turn: ($234.76) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($234.76) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $234.76 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 J 8 K 3
    Hero showed J J and lost (-$116.63 net)
    MP showed Q Q and won $231.96 ($115.33 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Eks ma ise barreldaks ka iga riveri...

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $109.28 (109.3 bb)
    SB: $243.70 (243.7 bb)
    BB: $100 (100 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $118.41 (118.4 bb)
    MP: $111.41 (111.4 bb)
    CO: $45 (45 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q Q
    Hero raises to $3, MP raises to $9.08, 4 folds, Hero calls $6.08

    Flop: ($19.66) 8 9 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $10, Hero calls $10

    Turn: ($39.66) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $24.02, Hero calls $24.02

    River: ($87.70) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $68.31 and is all-in, Hero calls $68.31

    Results: $224.32 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 8 9 9 K 6
    Hero showed Q Q and won $221.52 ($110.11 net)
    MP showed A 3 and lost (-$111.41 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $144.25 (144.3 bb)
    SB: $207.85 (207.9 bb)
    BB: $108.47 (108.5 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $165.67 (165.7 bb)
    MP: $142.36 (142.4 bb)
    CO: $164.61 (164.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8 8
    Hero raises to $3, MP folds, CO calls $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2

    Flop: ($9.50) 7 Q 8 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $9.07, BB folds, Hero raises to $24, CO calls $14.93

    Turn: ($57.50) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $41.18, CO raises to $137.61 and is all-in, Hero calls $96.43

    River: ($332.72) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $332.72 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 7 Q 8 9 3
    Hero showed 8 8 and won $329.92 ($165.31 net)
    CO mucked 9 Q and lost (-$164.61 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Turni beti tegin juba arvestusega, et callin check-raise'i.

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $215.70 (215.7 bb)
    SB: $113.01 (113 bb)
    BB: $98.10 (98.1 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $264.58 (264.6 bb)
    MP: $217.45 (217.5 bb)
    CO: $230.02 (230 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with J T
    Hero raises to $3, 4 folds, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

    Flop: ($18.50) 3 9 T (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $8.83, BB calls $8.83

    Turn: ($36.16) 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $17.26, BB raises to $80.27 and is all-in, Hero calls $63.01

    River: ($196.70) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $196.70 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 3 9 T 2 4
    BB showed A K and lost (-$98.10 net)
    Hero showed J T and won $193.90 ($95.80 net)

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Lõpetasin päeva kenasti ära. Eesmärk oli maksta 200$ reiki. Ise olen jube rahul, et olen juba teist päeva jutti seadnud mitterahalised eesmärgid. Eks mäng oli konarlik. Samas tänapäeval vist polegi võimalik pingevabalt raha kokku kühveldada.

    Mõned käed ka. Esimese käe kohta tekib küsimus, et mida võis vastane oma liigutusega mõelda? Kas ta üldse mõtles või vajutas nuppe. Tegu oli mingi agro regiga. Mina ei suutnud uskuda, et ta 2 korda ässad või kunnid läbi chekkis. Edit: kui nüüd uuesti mõelda, siis minu väikene panus tundus tõesti vist nii nõrk, et fold equity+mõned outid võisid tema jaoks piisavad olla.

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    Hero (BTN): $223.72 (223.7 bb)
    SB: $168.38 (168.4 bb)
    BB: $102.50 (102.5 bb)
    UTG: $165.42 (165.4 bb)
    MP: $116.96 (117 bb)
    CO: $119.48 (119.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
    2 folds, CO raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, CO raises to $21, Hero calls $13

    Flop: ($43.50) J K 9 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($43.50) 3 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $12, CO raises to $98.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $86.48

    River: ($240.46) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $240.46 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: J K 9 3 T
    Hero showed K A and won $237.66 ($118.18 net)
    CO showed T A and lost (-$119.48 net)

    Järgmine käsi, kuhu juurde kulvad hädasti ära mõistlikud kommentaarid. Ehk siis ma leidsin, et ma ei foldi seda kätt nkn, samas keeruline on ka kudiagi valuet saada hilisematel tänavatel. Ja jõudsingi need kaks asja kokkupannes chekc-raise allinnini. Muidu oleks võinud ka flopil check-callida ja hiljem alla anda, ent ma tegin flopil plaani ära, et ei foldi mingi hinna eest :)

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    BTN: $100 (100 bb)
    SB: $219.52 (219.5 bb)
    BB: $45.80 (45.8 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $376.33 (376.3 bb)
    MP: $106.96 (107 bb)
    CO: $128.63 (128.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q Q
    Hero raises to $3, MP calls $3, 2 folds, SB raises to $12, BB folds, Hero calls $9, MP calls $9

    Flop: ($37) 2 T 8 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $17, SB folds, Hero raises to $364.33 and is all-in, MP folds

    Results: $71 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 2 T 8
    SB mucked and lost (-$12 net)
    Hero mucked Q Q and won $68.20 ($39.20 net)
    MP mucked and lost (-$29 net)

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    Viimati muudetud muttaja poolt : 23.04.12 at 02:28

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    Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

    Check-call tundub kindlasti etem QQ käes.

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