[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

Panin kõik kus stäkist lahti sain, siia nüüd üles:

1. käsi. Villane täiesti tundmatu ja min 4bet tundus jube kahtlane. Kaotasin, pole hullu.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $291.62 (145.8 bb)
SB: $647.18 (323.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $216.60 (108.3 bb)
UTG: $277.76 (138.9 bb)
MP: $214.66 (107.3 bb)
CO: $98.80 (49.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG raises to $4, 2 folds, BTN calls $4, SB folds, Hero raises to $20, UTG raises to $36, BTN folds, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($77) 5 6 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG raises to $40, Hero raises to $180.60 and is all-in, UTG calls $140.60

Turn: ($438.20) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($438.20) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $438.20 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 6 2 T 9
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$216.60 net)
UTG showed A A and won $435.40 ($218.80 net)


2. käsi. Open 4betil respecti eriti ei anna ja KK stäkin nagunii alati ära. Ei tuld ära.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $212.74 (106.4 bb)
SB: $222.74 (111.4 bb)
BB: $100 (50 bb)
UTG: $402.20 (201.1 bb)
MP: $400.11 (200.1 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO folds, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $44, 2 folds, Hero raises to $212.74 and is all-in, SB calls $168.74

Flop: ($433.48) 3 T 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($433.48) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($433.48) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $433.48 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 T 2 J T
Hero showed K K and lost (-$212.74 net)
SB showed J J and won $430.68 ($217.94 net)


3. käsi. Too oli tõenäoliselt tildine. Samas kui ma juba 4beti peale läksin, siis teadsin, et callin ka shove ära.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $244.89 (122.4 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $140.32 (70.2 bb)
MP: $214.19 (107.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $216.94 (108.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q A
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB raises to $20, Hero raises to $40, BB raises to $200 and is all-in, Hero calls $160

Flop: ($401) T 5 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($401) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($401) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 5 Q 7 8
BB showed K K and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)
Hero showed Q A and lost (-$200 net)


4. käsi. Ässasid ei foldi. Ei tuld ära.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $635.97 (318 bb)
BB: $246.07 (123 bb)
UTG: $221.16 (110.6 bb)
MP: $687.80 (343.9 bb)
CO: $59.34 (29.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
UTG raises to $5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, UTG raises to $38, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, UTG calls $162

Flop: ($403) 3 4 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($403) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($403) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 4 Q 7 K
Hero showed A A and lost (-$200 net)
UTG showed K K and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)


5. käsi. sama, mis eelmine:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $100 (50 bb)
SB: $245.49 (122.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $735.80 (367.9 bb)
MP: $163.98 (82 bb)
CO: $610.81 (305.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
4 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $42, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, SB calls $158

Flop: ($400) 8 9 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($400) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($400) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $400 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 9 Q J K
SB showed Q Q and won $397.20 ($197.20 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$200 net)




6. käsi. Villane on mulle palju peavalu valmistanud. Üli kõrge 3betiga mängib. Flop mulle sobis ja stäkkisin ära. Raha ei saand.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $154 (77 bb)
SB: $360.88 (180.4 bb)
BB: $209.65 (104.8 bb)
Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
MP: $188.82 (94.4 bb)
CO: $211.96 (106 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J A
Hero raises to $6, MP folds, CO raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39) 3 4 A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero raises to $48, CO raises to $193.96 and is all-in, Hero calls $134 and is all-in

Turn: ($403) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($403) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 4 A Q T
Hero showed J A and lost (-$200 net)
CO showed 8 A and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)

7. käsi. Kena turn. Ei foldi.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $239.25 (119.6 bb)
SB: $762.90 (381.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $87 (43.5 bb)
MP: $821.19 (410.6 bb)
CO: $218.34 (109.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
3 folds, BTN raises to $6, SB folds, Hero raises to $20, BTN calls $14

Flop: ($41) K 6 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $19.58, BTN calls $19.58

Turn: ($80.16) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $42.42, BTN raises to $199.67 and is all-in, Hero calls $118.00 and is all-in

River: ($401) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: K 6 7 9 6
BTN showed 9 9 and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$200 net)

8. käsi. Halvasti mängitud. Ei tea, mis preflop ära ei stäkkind. Ei old sel hetkel kindlasti tildine ka.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $551.42 (275.7 bb)
SB: $713.78 (356.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $205.87 (102.9 bb)
UTG: $123.95 (62 bb)
MP: $203 (101.5 bb)
CO: $345.13 (172.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG calls $2, MP folds, CO raises to $10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $26, UTG folds, CO raises to $42, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($87) A 5 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $29, Hero calls $29

Turn: ($145) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($145) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $274.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $134.87 and is all-in

Results: $414.74 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 5 4 3 9
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$205.87 net)
CO showed T A and won $411.94 ($206.07 net)

[muttaja]

vb tõmbaks vahelduseks tsipa nitimaks. ei tekitaks endale nii palju mõtlemist vajavaid olukordi. saaks kindluse uuesti kätte. just ideo tho.

Nitimaks üritan jah võtta. Samas ei tea, kust sellega peale hakata.

[muttaja]

Päris kenasti olen enda kojhta juunis volüümi andnud



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[muttaja]

Halleluuja! Õhtuse sessiga 6BI üles ja jooksin ka ca buyinni üle EV!

2400 käe koht vaid üks kaotus, kus kogu BI läks, aga see oli üpris paratamatu ka:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $588.32 (294.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $201 (100.5 bb)
BB: $211.42 (105.7 bb)
UTG: $100 (50 bb)
MP: $198 (99 bb)
CO: $314.63 (157.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
3 folds, BTN raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, BB folds, BTN calls $12

Flop: ($38) Q 8 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $22.21, BTN calls $22.21

Turn: ($82.42) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $44.12, BTN calls $44.12

River: ($170.66) A (2 players)
Hero bets $116.67 and is all-in, BTN calls $116.67

Results: $404 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 8 4 8 A
BTN showed 5 8 and won $401.20 ($200.20 net)
Hero showed Q A and lost (-$201 net)

Ja üks võidukäsi ka, kus vb midagi õppida:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $204 (102 bb)
SB: $548.42 (274.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $449.99 (225 bb)
MP: $270.45 (135.2 bb)
CO: $119.96 (60 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 9
UTG raises to $6, 4 folds, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($13) 3 Q 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.88, UTG raises to $22, Hero raises to $48.82, UTG calls $26.82

Turn: ($110.64) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $91.66, Hero raises to $145.18 and is all-in, UTG calls $53.52

River: ($401) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 Q 9 2 J
Hero showed 9 9 and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)
UTG showed A Q and lost (-$200 net)

[The_Meer]

kuidas sa ise vastase asemel seda kätt mängiks. Flopil repid sa suht kitsast ranget, mis teda biidib. Vb teatud juhtudel on sul siin ka AA,KK ka ,kuna positsioonid on siin sellised. Kas vastasel on mõistlik turni bettida, sest oletame, et sul on mingi draw,siis reeglina sa betid seda turnil ise?

[The_Meer]

Mu point on see, et turnin betil on rohkem valuet, kuna nii sa repid drawsid jms paremini ning kui vastane sellise liini võtab, siis reeglina ta seda maha ei pane, eriti kuna turn on blank, samas ta võib turni ise järgi checkida ja riveril enam st2kki ei saa

[muttaja]

Tegelikult on sul head pointid. Antud hetkel mõtlesin peamiselt stäki ja poti suhte peale, ehk kuda kõige mugavam mängida oleks.

[muttaja]

Hommikune seissioon siis -4,5BI, 3,5BI alla EV, ehk siis tavapärane. See kuu siis juba 16BI alla EV :/. Kui nii jätkub, siis pean paari päeva pärast nl100 peale kolima, mida küll ei tahaks teha.

Täna paar korda ikka vusserdasin ka otsustavates kohtades.

Kõik käed siis, kus BI kaotasin.

1. käsi: jube raske oli fishist villast maja peale panna, palju lihtsam aga madalama masti...

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $217.30 (108.7 bb)
SB: $192.72 (96.4 bb)
BB: $142.36 (71.2 bb)
UTG: $668.72 (334.4 bb)
MP: $434.95 (217.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $212 (106 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K J
UTG raises to $6, MP folds, Hero calls $6, BTN folds, SB calls $5, BB folds

Flop: ($20) Q 3 6 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $12.21, SB folds, UTG calls $12.21

Turn: ($44.42) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $31.81, UTG calls $31.81

River: ($108.04) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $88.93, UTG raises to $182, Hero calls $73.05 and is all-in

Results: $432.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 3 6 3 A
UTG showed 3 A and won $429.20 ($217.20 net)
Hero showed K J and lost (-$212 net)


2. käsi: ei oleks pidanud suruma. ATo pole selle jaoks just parim käsi. Pigem juba A4s vms

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $214.65 (107.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $210 (105 bb)
BB: $243.97 (122 bb)
UTG: $293.34 (146.7 bb)
MP: $69.98 (35 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A T
3 folds, BTN raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $16, BB folds, BTN raises to $38, Hero raises to $210 and is all-in, BTN calls $172

Flop: ($422) Q 6 J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($422) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($422) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $422 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 6 J 4 2
BTN showed K A and won $419.20 ($209.20 net)
Hero showed A T and lost (-$210 net)


3. käsi: suhteliselt standard...

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $356 (178 bb)
SB: $212.42 (106.2 bb)
BB: $281.89 (140.9 bb)
UTG: $209.32 (104.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $291.54 (145.8 bb)
CO: $208.50 (104.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K K
UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero raises to $40, CO raises to $208.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $168.50

Flop: ($420) 4 6 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($420) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($420) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $420 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 6 5 3 Q
Hero showed K K and lost (-$208.50 net)
CO showed Q Q and won $417.20 ($208.70 net)


4. käsi: suutsin ta vaid QQ ja bluffide peale panna. No JJ äärmisel juhul ka, aga mul oli endal ka üks J käes

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $210.46 (105.2 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $208.37 (104.2 bb)
MP: $420.60 (210.3 bb)
CO: $468.40 (234.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J K
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO folds, Hero raises to $16, SB folds, BB calls $14, MP calls $10

Flop: ($49) 2 J 7 (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($49) 8 (3 players)
BB bets $42, MP folds, Hero calls $42

River: ($133) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $142 and is all-in, Hero calls $142 and is all-in

Results: $417 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 J 7 8 3
Hero showed J K and lost (-$200 net)
BB showed 7 7 and won $414.20 ($214.20 net)


5. käsi: standard

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $101.44 (50.7 bb)
SB: $493.58 (246.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)
MP: $228.58 (114.3 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $5, BTN folds, SB calls $4, Hero raises to $22, CO folds, SB raises to $52, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, SB calls $148

Flop: ($405) 7 4 J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($405) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($405) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $405 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 4 J 2 6
SB showed 6 6 and won $402.20 ($202.20 net)
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$200 net)


6. käsi: sitasti mängitud

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $220.16 (110.1 bb)
BB: $228.02 (114 bb)
UTG: $212.32 (106.2 bb)
MP: $312.79 (156.4 bb)
CO: $135.30 (67.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T A
3 folds, BTN raises to $5, Hero raises to $16, BB folds, BTN calls $11

Flop: ($34) 7 A 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $21.23, BTN calls $21.23

Turn: ($76.46) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $33.14, BTN calls $33.14

River: ($142.74) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $129.63 and is all-in, Hero calls $129.63

Results: $402 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 A 7 Q K
BTN showed 6 7 and won $399.20 ($199.20 net)
Hero showed T A and lost (-$200 net)


7. käsi: ma ei tea, kui hea liin see oli, aga turnis oli call täitsa 50/50

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $202 (101 bb)
SB: $184.23 (92.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $206.42 (103.2 bb)
UTG: $251.36 (125.7 bb)
MP: $566.49 (283.2 bb)
CO: $215.46 (107.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q K
4 folds, SB raises to $4.40, Hero calls $2.40

Flop: ($8.80) 7 T 5 (2 players)
SB bets $7.56, Hero raises to $24.12, SB calls $16.56

Turn: ($57.04) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $40.85, SB raises to $155.71, Hero calls $114.86

River: ($368.46) 3 (2 players)

Results: $368.46 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 T 5 J 3
SB showed J J and won $365.66 ($181.43 net)
Hero mucked Q K and lost (-$184.23 net)


Käed, kus võitsin BI

1. käsi: keeruline preflop uhada

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $223.15 (111.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $209.37 (104.7 bb)
BB: $647.03 (323.5 bb)
UTG: $201 (100.5 bb)
MP: $201 (100.5 bb)
CO: $245.92 (123 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
3 folds, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, BB folds, BTN raises to $33, Hero calls $19

Flop: ($68) 6 7 K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $35.86, Hero raises to $176.37 and is all-in, BTN calls $140.51

Turn: ($420.74) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($420.74) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $420.74 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 7 K 4 3
BTN showed 3 K and lost (-$209.37 net)
Hero showed A J and won $417.94 ($208.57 net)

2. käsi: õnneks tõmbasin flopil ära

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $269.95 (135 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)
MP: $271.20 (135.6 bb)
CO: $255.38 (127.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO calls $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $26, MP raises to $50, CO folds, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, MP calls $150

Flop: ($407) A 9 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($407) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($407) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $407 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 9 3 7 Q
Hero showed A A and won $404.20 ($204.20 net)
MP showed K K and lost (-$200 net)



Õhtul proovin 3 tundi veel.

[The_Meer]

see AJs 4b potis obv sa tabad mega flopi, kus rahad sisse saada, aga kas seda kätt ple võimalik postflop teisiti mängida. Ajalugu on näidand, et ykski reg ei pane selle flopi craile QQ,JJ jne edasi maha. Äkki oleks võimalik mingid blufid sees hoida ja las 2 barreldab AI. Või siis hakkab tõesti midagi põdema näiteks, kui c-callid flop ja foldib riveril parema lehe

[The_Meer]

Jällegi see point, et sinu c-call flopil muudab tema valuerange jaoks kahtlasemaks ja tema bluff 4b range jaoks isuäratavamaks Kxx flopil:D

[muttaja]

Oot, mis käest sa räägid?

[muttaja]

5 päeva võitlesin, kaotasin, jooksin alla EV, jätkasin head mängu, kaotasin ja sama tsükkel iga päev. Aga inimvõimetel on teatavasti piirid ja nüüd ma olen küll tiltis. Loodan, et suudan vähemalt õigel hetkel, kui br käsib, limiidis alla liikuda.



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[Pumper]

Mina leian, et ise sa lood endale nii variatsioonirikka mängukäigu, alati on võimalik väiksemat variatsiooni mängusisse kirjutada. Eriti nii raskel hetkel, tavaliselt su stiil ju toidab ja arvan et teed ka head mängu kuna EV seda ka näitab.

[Mrt1989]

Minu arust sul isegi hästi läinud arvestades fakti ,et alustasid ju 10 BI ga nl50 kohe :D Zoom on variatsiooni rikkam kui tava lauad oma olemuselt.

[The_Meer]

Ma ei saa nq väga aru, sul on yle 10BI miinust cirka yle 10 000 käe ning see EV joon yle 0. Siin ple midagi põdeda, seda nimetatakse variatsiooniks:D

[fyte]

Lasid ju varem midstakes'i? BR ei pea tingimata pokkerikontol olema, et seda arvestada sisse.

[muttaja]

Mina leian, et ise sa lood endale nii variatsioonirikka mängukäigu, alati on võimalik väiksemat variatsiooni mängusisse kirjutada. Eriti nii raskel hetkel, tavaliselt su stiil ju toidab ja arvan et teed ka head mängu kuna EV seda ka näitab.

Eks ta õige ole, samas kui oma stiil on juba juurdunud, siis on keeruline kramplikult kuskilt variatsiooni koomale tõmmata. Sain just end kõvasti takka sundides VPIP 1% võrra alla - pidin mängu käigus mõtlema hakkama, kus rohkem foldida ja tegutsesin seega natuke vähem masinlikult preflop. Tõenäoliselt on see hea.

Aga pmst olen paar viimast päeva ka natuke väiksema variatsiooni poole püüelnud, ent seni eriliste tulemusteta. Seega, antke nõu, kuda kõige lihtsam variatsiooni vähendada, ilma, et preflop koomale võtaks ja et ka winrate ei kukuks (kuigi jah, hetkel on ta miinuses, niiet keeruline kukkuda :P)

[muttaja]

Õhtul 4,5BI plussi, mänguisu tuli tagasi. Päev siiski 2,5BI miinuses. Homme proovin uue hooga:D

Midagi erilist ei juhtunud. Ühe tildise käe vusserdasin kohe sessiooni alguses. Siis tõmbasin korra KK vs AA ära, ent hetkel hilejm läks kohe vastupidi.

Ehk siis tildine käsi. Villase W$WSF oli jube madal. Aga ma oleks pidanud ikka ta vast seti peale panema...

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $206 (103 bb)
BB: $535.46 (267.7 bb)
UTG: $488.15 (244.1 bb)
MP: $531.70 (265.9 bb)
CO: $220.38 (110.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
2 folds, CO raises to $5, BTN calls $5, Hero raises to $22, BB folds, CO calls $17, BTN calls $17

Flop: ($68) 8 6 Q (3 players)
Hero bets $32.60, CO folds, BTN calls $32.60

Turn: ($133.20) T (2 players)
Hero bets $151.40 and is all-in, BTN calls $145.40 and is all-in

River: ($424) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $424 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 6 Q T 7
BTN showed 6 6 and won $421.20 ($221.20 net)
Hero showed A J and lost (-$200 net)

[udikaz]

kui sa preflop ei taha koomale tõmmata, siis eisaagi vast vähendada. sest kui hero calle vähem hakkad tegema siis läheb sinu showdown winnings balancest välja, aga võid ju proovida. suurem % on neil riveris shovedes siiski suht nuts mitte bluff.

E: ja kui sa küsisid, et mida teha kui AA ja KK peksa saad pre koguaeg, siis njah..you must ask stars or smth

[muttaja]

Päeva esimmene sessioon 7$ plussis :)

Enamasti kaotasin selletõttu, et ei tahtnud üldse uskuda. Edaspidi olen usklikum. Õhtul teen veel ühe 3h sessiooni.

Üks huvitav käsi ka, kus bluff õnnestus:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $503.72 (251.9 bb)
BB: $102.12 (51.1 bb)
UTG: $229.57 (114.8 bb)
MP: $236.71 (118.4 bb)
CO: $225.50 (112.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T 5
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($10) 5 4 Q (2 players)
SB bets $6, Hero raises to $19.89, SB calls $13.89

Turn: ($49.78) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $30.65, SB calls $30.65

River: ($111.08) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $72, Hero raises to $145.46 and is all-in, SB folds

Results: $255.08 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 4 Q K 3
Hero mucked T 5 and won $252.28 ($125.74 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$126.54 net)