[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

Pokker selleks nädalavahetuseks läbi. Lauad olid head, jooksin (vist :)) hästi ning enda kohta panin ka väga palju aega mängimise alla. Erinevalt eelmsiest nädalavahetusest, kus pärast jäi tühi tunne sisse, sest aeg oli maha visatud ja tulemust ei tulnud, on täna seis kenam.



Ega mingeid väga spets käsi polnudki.

1. Reg ei taht kuidagi uskuda

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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SB: $506.91 (126.7 bb)
BB: $400 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $555.58 (138.9 bb)
MP1: $412.90 (103.2 bb)
MP2: $469.03 (117.3 bb)
MP3: $418.81 (104.7 bb)
CO: $236.96 (59.2 bb)
BTN: $394 (98.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A A
Hero calls $4, MP1 raises to $15.20, 6 folds, Hero raises to $52, MP1 calls $36.80

Flop: ($110) 9 2 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $92, MP1 raises to $360.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $268.90

Turn: ($831.80) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($831.80) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $831.80 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 2 3 8 J
Hero showed A A and won $829 ($416.10 net)
MP1 showed K A and lost (-$412.90 net)

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2. Üks klassikaline 3barrel

Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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BB: $244.59 (40.8 bb)
CO: $600 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $600 (100 bb)
SB: $600 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 A
CO folds, Hero raises to $12, SB folds, BB calls $6

Flop: ($27) J 7 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15

Turn: ($57) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $42, BB calls $42

River: ($141) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $112, BB calls $112

Results: $365 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: J 7 5 6 Q
BB showed T J and won $363.50 ($182.50 net)
Hero showed 3 A and lost (-$181 net)

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3. Ja sessi lõpetuseks selline käsi. Eile mängisin temaga cap hu-d, täna cap fullringi varem. Kui mingist lauast lahkus, siis pigevalt otsisin, kuhu maha potsatab

Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $717.20 (119.5 bb)
CO: $600 (100 bb)
BTN: $1,194.05 (199 bb)
SB: $278.05 (46.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $780.50 (130.1 bb)
UTG: $875.50 (145.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A Q
4 folds, SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $42, SB calls $30

Flop: ($84) A Q 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($84) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $24, Hero calls $24

River: ($132) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $212.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $212.05

Results: $556.10 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A Q 8 2 5
SB showed 5 7 and lost (-$278.05 net)
Hero showed A Q and won $553.30 ($275.25 net)

[gamblingFTW]

huvitav ka esimeses käes on regi AK shove on bluff v value? imelik pole selline liin ?

[muttaja]

Ei kujuta ette jah. Tahab blockeritega bluf olla? Regular ja võidab korralikult... KUI ma tõstaks pre ja calliks, siis ma vast calliks flopi ja edasi tuleb tõenäoliselt alla anda. Runner-runner mastitõmbeta võiks ka flopi foldida.

[Fortune]

Ei kujuta ette jah. Tahab blockeritega bluf olla? Regular ja võidab korralikult... KUI ma tõstaks pre ja calliks, siis ma vast calliks flopi ja edasi tuleb tõenäoliselt alla anda. Runner-runner mastitõmbeta võiks ka flopi foldida.

vb sp, et nii suure cb tegid, tundub drawisem/bluffisem küll, võis overthinkida, et tahad mingi JTs,KQ vms max fold equityt vms saada. Mul pole muidugi õrna aimu ka mis su LR range on. Miks tegid nii suure cb?

[EestiMats]

Kas see LR on kõrgemal mingi std play ? Tuuakse meelega sisse see regide poolt, et segadust tekitada ja värki ?

[muttaja]

vb sp, et nii suure cb tegid, tundub drawisem/bluffisem küll, võis overthinkida, et tahad mingi JTs,KQ vms max fold equityt vms saada. Mul pole muidugi õrna aimu ka mis su LR range on. Miks tegid nii suure cb?

Kui ta tõesti on kõrge paar, siis ei nöe ma teda foldimas, kui on droo, siis ei lase odavalt järgmist kaarti näha. Tema (ja ka minu) range peaks tugevalt polariseeritud olema. SPR ju täitsa toetab sellist panust.

[muttaja]

Kas see LR on kõrgemal mingi std play ? Tuuakse meelega sisse see regide poolt, et segadust tekitada ja värki ?

Pigem ikka ei ole standard. Ise pmst teen jah selle pärast, et segadust külvata - ei ole neid range seal nii täpselt läbi mõelnud (sest ei ole ka minu jaoks tavapärane). Varastelt positsioonidelt limpimine on mo meelest siis mõnus, kui blindidel on fišš. Madalate pocketidega saan setmine'ida (loomulikult juhul kui fišš callib), tugevate lehtedega saan poti suureks ajada. Eks aegajalt tuleb AA-ga limpcallida ka, kui ainult üks tõstja ja fišš kaasa ei tulnud.

[k2snakalle]

Kui saladus pole, siis räägi tagamaid A3o käe kohta. Olen oma teksti siin mitu korda juba muutnud, saan ilmselt play-st aru kuid tänavate beti tagamõtted vs fish jäävad arusaamatuks. Eriti turni bet (näen niiii palju kaarte riverisse mis on lihtsalt öäk ning seega ei näe turni beti, et teda sealt draw-delt ja weak paaridelt maha saada kuna lisaks paljud weak pairid connectisid veelgi ). Või vaatan asja vale nurga alt?

[muttaja]

A3 ikka regulari vastu jah. Fishi vastu nii ei barreldaks. Barreldan suhteliselt vähe sellistest kohtades ja ausaltöeldes "peaks" regular seal mu vastu foldima säärase käe - just sääraselt käelt (ja nõrgemaltelt) tahtsingi maha saada.

[muttaja]

Valus sess. Alguses kenasti +2k peale väga kena mänguga, siis tegin ühe ebaõnnestunud bluffi fišši vastu hea tunde pealt, sest koht nagu lubas, ning alates sellest käes läks kõik allamäge...

1. loll bluff

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (MP): $406 (101.5 bb)
CO: $400 (100 bb)
BTN: $310.42 (77.6 bb)
SB: $507.58 (126.9 bb)
BB: $256.39 (64.1 bb)
UTG: $400 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K J
UTG raises to $12, Hero calls $12, CO folds, BTN calls $12, 2 folds

Flop: ($42) 5 9 6 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $30, BTN calls $30, UTG folds

Turn: ($102) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $76, BTN calls $76

River: ($254) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $288 and is all-in, BTN calls $192.42

Results: $638.84 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 9 6 Q Q
Hero showed K J and lost (-$310.42 net)
BTN showed T T and won $636.04 ($325.62 net)

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2. Kõrgemates limiitides ei antud kaarti ja kui lõpuks anti

Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $1,000 (100 bb)
BB: $458.13 (45.8 bb)
UTG: $665.85 (66.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $1,000 (100 bb)
CO: $1,057.20 (105.7 bb)
BTN: $1,316.77 (131.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A Q
UTG calls $10, Hero raises to $40, 4 folds, UTG calls $30

Flop: ($95) Q 8 J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $60, UTG calls $60

Turn: ($215) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $140, UTG calls $140

River: ($495) A (2 players)
UTG bets $425.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $425.85

Results: $1,346.70 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: Q 8 J 7 A
UTG showed K T and won $1,343.70 ($677.85 net)
Hero showed A Q and lost (-$665.85 net)

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3. Ei squeezinud ja kohe karistati ära. Reg muidugi godmodes ka mo vastu. Vb tildine call

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $1,770.46 (442.6 bb)
BTN: $517.96 (129.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $704.40 (176.1 bb)
BB: $1,166.48 (291.6 bb)
UTG: $400 (100 bb)
MP: $400 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A T
UTG folds, MP raises to $12, CO folds, BTN calls $12, Hero calls $10, BB folds

Flop: ($40) A T 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $28, BTN folds, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($96) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $48, Hero calls $48

River: ($192) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $312 and is all-in, Hero calls $312

Results: $816 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A T 6 2 Q
Hero showed A T and lost (-$400 net)
MP showed 6 6 and won $813.20 ($413.20 net)


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Oeh

[muttaja]

A no jooksin üle EV

[Kakahirmutis]

Hiiter obv :D

[muttaja]

Tänased ässad:

1. Regular, mitte väga hea

Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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MP2: $600 (100 bb)
MP3: $420.79 (70.1 bb)
CO: $762.20 (127 bb)
BTN: $549.59 (91.6 bb)
SB: $600 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $600 (100 bb)
MP1: $649.95 (108.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
5 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $26, SB calls $20

Flop: ($52) 7 Q T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42, SB raises to $114, Hero calls $72

Turn: ($280) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $94, SB raises to $460 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $468 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 Q T 5
SB mucked and won $465.20 ($231.20 net)
Hero mucked A A and lost (-$234 net)

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2. Regular

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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SB: $400 (100 bb)
BB: $435.39 (108.8 bb)
UTG+2: $154 (38.5 bb)
MP1: $396.29 (99.1 bb)
MP2: $432.38 (108.1 bb)
Hero (MP3): $418.02 (104.5 bb)
CO: $400 (100 bb)
BTN: $224.58 (56.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, SB raises to $40, BB folds, Hero calls $28

Flop: ($84) J 2 T (2 players)
SB bets $44.66, Hero calls $44.66

Turn: ($173.32) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $72, SB calls $72

River: ($317.32) Q (2 players)
SB bets $243.34 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $317.32 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 2 T 8 Q
SB mucked and won $314.52 ($157.86 net)
Hero mucked A A and lost (-$156.66 net)


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3.

Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $1,000 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $1,064.98 (106.5 bb)
UTG: $400 (40 bb)
MP: $757 (75.7 bb)
CO: $1,808.85 (180.9 bb)
BTN: $1,017.98 (101.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
2 folds, CO raises to $30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $100, CO calls $70

Flop: ($205) 8 9 T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($205) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($205) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Results: $205 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 8 9 T 7 5
Hero showed A A and won $202 ($102 net)
CO mucked Q T and lost (-$100 net)

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4.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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MP: $280.28 (70.1 bb)
CO: $401.60 (100.4 bb)
BTN: $428.35 (107.1 bb)
Hero (SB): $400 (100 bb)
BB: $465.50 (116.4 bb)
UTG: $400 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
3 folds, BTN calls $4, Hero raises to $18, BB folds, BTN calls $14

Flop: ($40) 3 7 A (2 players)
Hero bets $30, BTN calls $30

Turn: ($100) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $80, BTN folds

Results: $100 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 7 A 7
BTN mucked and lost (-$48 net)
Hero mucked A A and won $97.20 ($49.20 net)

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Korra võitsin blindid ka.

Muidu mängisin suht hästi ja jäin natuke plussi. Kuu jöi ka ikka plussi :)

[muttaja]

Paar kena kätt ka ühe rumalavõitu shortstäkkeri vastu, kes oli tavapärasets kõrgemale donkama tulnud. 100-s vist suudab rakebacki najal elus püsida ning burksi- ja õlleraha välja kanda.

5. SB pealt regularide vasti call 93s... Ma hittisin kenasti mõlemad jooksud :)

Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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MP1: $344.18 (57.4 bb)
MP2: $600 (100 bb)
MP3: $231 (38.5 bb)
CO: $889.18 (148.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $600 (100 bb)
SB: $538.62 (89.8 bb)
BB: $610.28 (101.7 bb)
UTG+2: $748.83 (124.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T 8
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $15, 3 folds, Hero calls $15, SB calls $12, BB folds

Flop: ($51) 9 J 6 (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $36, Hero calls $36, SB raises to $111, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $585 and is all-in, SB calls $412.62 and is all-in

Turn: ($1,134.24) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($1,134.24) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $1,134.24 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 J 6 J 2
MP1 mucked and lost (-$51 net)
Hero showed T 8 and won $1,131.44 ($592.82 net)
SB showed 3 9 and lost (-$538.62 net)

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6. Küll suht väikse sample pealt, aga siiski mõttetult kõrge 3bet blindidelt. Neiu oli juhuslikult kõrval ja ütlesin talle, et checkin turni, sest tal on KT või A5 :)

Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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UTG+2: $618 (103 bb)
MP1: $706.85 (117.8 bb)
MP2: $249 (41.5 bb)
MP3: $935.94 (156 bb)
Hero (CO): $1,089.06 (181.5 bb)
BTN: $600 (100 bb)
SB: $267.07 (44.5 bb)
BB: $613.78 (102.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $15, BTN folds, SB raises to $45, BB folds, Hero raises to $75, SB calls $30

Flop: ($156) 4 6 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42, SB calls $42

Turn: ($240) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($240) J (2 players)
SB bets $150.07 and is all-in, Hero calls $150.07

Results: $540.14 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 6 9 9 J
Hero showed K 9 and won $537.34 ($270.27 net)
SB showed A 5 and lost (-$267.07 net)



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7. Proovis korra veel

Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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UTG+2: $609 (101.5 bb)
MP1: $438 (73 bb)
MP2: $267.44 (44.6 bb)
MP3: $1,074.50 (179.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $1,435.87 (239.3 bb)
BTN: $600 (100 bb)
SB: $401.58 (66.9 bb)
BB: $852.20 (142 bb)
UTG+1: $289.70 (48.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
5 folds, Hero raises to $18, BTN folds, SB raises to $45, BB folds, Hero raises to $72, SB calls $27

Flop: ($150) 8 8 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42, SB calls $42

Turn: ($234) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $90, SB calls $90

River: ($414) K (2 players)
SB bets $197.58, Hero calls $197.58

Results: $809.16 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 8 7 8 K
Hero showed K K and won $806.36 ($404.78 net)
SB showed T A and lost (-$401.58 net)

[muttaja]

Paar päeva pokkerist pausi, ägis terve sessi nulli ümber ja siis lõpetuseks selline purakas suht mõttetu regulari vastu

Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $1,586.50 (158.7 bb)
UTG: $1,715.50 (171.6 bb)
MP: $2,116.11 (211.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $1,052.58 (105.3 bb)
BTN: $1,440.89 (144.1 bb)
SB: $1,000 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A J
2 folds, Hero raises to $25, BTN raises to $78, 2 folds, Hero calls $53

Flop: ($171) 3 7 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $108, Hero calls $108

Turn: ($387) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $220, Hero calls $220

River: ($827) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $824.75, Hero calls $646.58 and is all-in

Results: $2,120.16 pot ($2.25 rake)
Final Board: 3 7 6 9 4
Hero showed A J and lost (-$1,052.58 net)
BTN showed 8 5 and won $2,117.91 ($1,065.33 net)

[muttaja]

Fishide vastu kenad raise'id ka...

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (BTN): $495.47 (123.9 bb)
SB: $483.18 (120.8 bb)
BB: $967.40 (241.9 bb)
MP: $118 (29.5 bb)
CO: $420 (105 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K J
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, SB folds, BB calls $4

Flop: ($18) 7 Q 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $32, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($82) Q (2 players)
BB bets $68, Hero calls $68

River: ($218) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $152, Hero raises to $387.47 and is all-in, BB calls $235.47

Results: $992.94 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 Q 3 Q 4
Hero showed K J and lost (-$495.47 net)
BB showed 9 A and won $990.14 ($494.67 net)

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2.

Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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UTG: $792.31 (132.1 bb)
MP: $639 (106.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $766.63 (127.8 bb)
BTN: $600 (100 bb)
SB: $303.20 (50.5 bb)
BB: $471.49 (78.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q J
2 folds, Hero raises to $15, 2 folds, BB raises to $42, Hero calls $27

Flop: ($87) T 4 Q (2 players)
BB bets $42, Hero calls $42

Turn: ($171) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $90, Hero calls $90

River: ($351) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $90, Hero raises to $592.63 and is all-in, BB calls $207.49 and is all-in

Results: $945.98 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 4 Q 6 2
Hero showed Q J and lost (-$471.49 net)
BB showed A Q and won $943.18 ($471.69 net)

[Owner85]

See viimane,ilmselt see ikka for value aga kas callib seal kehvem Q või siis Tx?

[muttaja]

See viimane,ilmselt see ikka for value aga kas callib seal kehvem Q või siis Tx?

No ikka jah. Eks ma arvestasin, et tal vahel harva on AQ või KQ, aga tihemini callib mind kehvemaga.

[k2snakalle]

kas viimases käes shove poole kallutab ta riveri betsize? Ütleme et betib riveril 1/2pot-60%, siis leiad ka shoveks ruumi?

[Kotkas1000]

Statse ja ajalugu ei tea, kuid megathin tundub esmapilgul küll ka mulle. Jama ju selles, et mingeid Q8, Q9, T9, TK jne hände ju väga ei 3betita reeglina fishide poolt. Aga vb tolle 3bet on 75%, ma ei tea ju :)