[NL400-2000 FR] Rudi Winning Munniez

[Davy]

kas keegi võiks anda mingi selle foorumi või 2+2e lingi, kus on juttu sellest pot oddsist ja equity arvutamisest, või noh, üldse kuidas arvutada, et kas on mõtet sisse suruda või mitte ja mis käe rangega ja mida vaadata jne.

Loodan, et keegi saab aru mu küsimusest :D

Mis krdi 2+2? downloadi pokerstove ja mõtle peaga. Kui 2+3/2 tehet oskad teha, siis probleeme ei tohiks esineda. Kui nii lihtsat asja nagu pot odds, push or call range ei oska ise arvutada pokerstovega(või välja mõelda kuidas see käib), siis on sul suurem probleem kui 2+2 artikkel

Ja kui ise läbi teed ja lõpuks asja mõistad on asjast 10x rohkem kasu kui 2+2 artiklist.

[RudiTurbo]

No KK vs AA alla deepstacki ei ole võimalik saada

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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MP2 ($142.15)
CO ($107)
Hero (Button) ($185.90)
SB ($100)
BB ($109.20)
UTG ($143.75)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($138.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
UTG bets $4, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $14, 2 folds, Hero raises to $31, 2 folds, UTG calls $27, MP1 raises to $138.50 (All-In), Hero raises to $185.90 (All-In), UTG calls $112.75 (All-In)

Flop: ($427.50) 7, 4, 6 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($427.50) 2 (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($427.50) J (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $427.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
UTG had A, Q (high card, Ace).
MP1 had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $10.50, MP1 won $414

[Dogers]

Mis krdi 2+2? downloadi pokerstove ja mõtle peaga. Kui 2+3/2 tehet oskad teha, siis probleeme ei tohiks esineda. Kui nii lihtsat asja nagu pot odds, push or call range ei oska ise arvutada pokerstovega(või välja mõelda kuidas see käib), siis on sul suurem probleem kui 2+2 artikkel

Ja kui ise läbi teed ja lõpuks asja mõistad on asjast 10x rohkem kasu kui 2+2 artiklist.

Aitäh, oligi vaja, et keegi karmimalt ütleks.
Aga nüüd tekkis uus küsimus, kas arvutate pot oddsid ja vajaliku equity kiirelt ise peast (see arvutuskäik, mille tdx hästi lihtsalt siia tõi) või on sellejaoks ka mingisugused programmid? Sp küsin, et kui on multiway potid ja surnud raha jne, siis võtab see ju natuke aega, või tulebki asi lihtsalt kogemusega, alguses läheb kauem ning varsti tuleb iseenesest ?

[RudiTurbo]

Rolferdonks

AT SOME POINT IN YOUR LIFE YOU WILL EVENTUALLY RUN WORSE THAN YOU EVER THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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UTG ($36.75)
UTG+1 ($105.75)
MP1 ($20)
MP2 ($125.05)
MP3 ($66.10)
Hero (CO) ($100)
Button ($15.50)
SB ($100)
BB ($21.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3, 3
3 folds, MP2 bets $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10) A, 4, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, MP2 bets $5, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $34, MP2 raises to $122.05 (All-In), Hero calls $79 (All-In), SB calls $63 (All-In)

Turn: ($301) 5 (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($301) 6 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $301 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB had K, 8 (flush, Ace high).
MP2 mucked A, 4 (two pair, Aces and fours).
Hero mucked 3, 3 (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: SB won $298

nh sir!
Next!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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UTG+1 ($109.35)
MP1 ($100)
Hero (MP2) ($100)
CO ($103.60)
Button ($183.50)
SB ($100)
BB ($106.60)
UTG ($56)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A
UTG bets $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $11, 3 folds, BB raises to $23, 1 fold, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($49.50) 5, J, Q (2 players)
BB bets $28, Hero raises to $77 (All-In), BB calls $49

Turn: ($203.50) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($203.50) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $203.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB had 10, 10 (straight, Queen high).
Hero mucked A, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $200.50

nh sir,

NEXT!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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SB ($100)
BB ($86.20)
UTG ($100)
Hero (UTG+1) ($105.15)
MP1 ($120.70)
MP2 ($90)
CO ($160.45)
Button ($103.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 2, 2
1 fold, Hero bets $3, MP1 calls $3, 3 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10) 6, 4, 2 (3 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $20, MP1 calls $20, 1 fold

Turn: ($55) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $44, MP1 calls $44

River: ($143) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $38.15 (All-In), MP1 calls $38.15

Total pot: $219.30 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had 2, 2 (three of a kind, twos).
MP1 had A, 9 (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: MP1 won $216.30


Viimane käsi väike stack, aga obv endiselt näha, et run on hea ! :)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($78.50)
MP2 ($14.50)
CO ($17)
Button ($69.05)
Hero (SB) ($116.65)
BB ($19)
UTG ($92.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5, 5
6 folds, Hero bets $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) 5, A, 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, BB calls $3.50

Turn: ($13) A (2 players)
Hero bets $17, BB calls $12.50 (All-In)

River: ($38) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $38 | Rake: $1.85

Results:
Hero had 5, 5 (full house, fives over Aces).
BB had 3, A (full house, Aces over threes).
Outcome: BB won $36.15


Kuud vist pole eriti võimalik plussis lõpetada
Praegu vist kuskil 1300$ alla EV siis!

[Davy]

Aitäh, oligi vaja, et keegi karmimalt ütleks.
Aga nüüd tekkis uus küsimus, kas arvutate pot oddsid ja vajaliku equity kiirelt ise peast (see arvutuskäik, mille tdx hästi lihtsalt siia tõi) või on sellejaoks ka mingisugused programmid? Sp küsin, et kui on multiway potid ja surnud raha jne, siis võtab see ju natuke aega, või tulebki asi lihtsalt kogemusega, alguses läheb kauem ning varsti tuleb iseenesest ?

Sul on HEM, harjuta nende EQ % vaatamist, kui mingi käsi all inni läheb, lõpuks see asi käib automaatselt. a la "ok ma saan 2:1le hetkel, järelikult mul on vaja 33% EQ mul on ainult 5 high flushdraw+backdoor straight, aga vastane ulmedonk....supereasy call ". lõpuks see asi käib automaatselt... aga enne on vaja veidi ise tööd teha.

[RudiTurbo]

Jätkame!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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SB ($100)
BB ($145.15)
UTG ($124.55)
MP1 ($80.85)
MP2 ($100)
Hero (CO) ($250.60)
Button ($234.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, A
1 fold, MP1 bets $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 3 folds, MP1 calls $11

Flop: ($31.50) Q, Q, 10 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $18.55, MP1 calls $18.55

Turn: ($68.60) 5 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $217.05 (All-In), MP1 calls $47.30 (All-In)

River: ($163.20) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $163.20 | Rake: $3

Results:
MP1 had A, K (straight, Ace high).
Hero mucked Q, A (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: MP1 won $160.20

[RudiTurbo]

Unreal, pidas lõpux monster pot
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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SB ($102)
BB ($133.65)
UTG ($114.35)
UTG+1 ($146.25)
MP1 ($100)
Hero (MP2) ($202.85)
CO ($245.80)
Button ($50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, A
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $11

Flop: ($31.50) 10, 4, A (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $18.55, UTG+1 calls $18.55

Turn: ($68.60) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $40, UTG+1 raises to $112.70 (All-In), Hero calls $72.70

River: ($294) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $294 | Rake: $3

Results:
UTG+1 had 10, J (one pair, tens).
Hero had Q, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $291


Täiesti ulme All in fest on täna !

[RudiTurbo]

Ulme pühapäeva öö, 6.8k käe jooxul kaotasin siis 6 täis stacki all ini ning võitsin 9 täis stacki all ini.

Uskumatu on see, et kuuel korral võitsid mulle täna terve stacki KK!

Sessiooni keskel ületeasin kuu madalaima seisu mõne dollari võrra! Kuid lõpux jäi sessioon +220$ siiski! Ja sessiooni lõpux oli EV joon kuu kõrgeimas punktis, ehk siis EV joone järgi olen täica raha teenimas NL100's, jama , et sellest õige profiti joon hetkel 1245$ allpool on!

[tdx]

Mul sama teema täpselt.

[RudiTurbo]

njaa, mu graafik peax vist ka umbes samapalju kasumis olema, kui polex kuu esimesel poolel jõhkralt tildanud ning ka kuu teisel poolel osaliselt tildanud :P

[RudiTurbo]

AA vs KK mulle 40bb pot

KK vs AA obv 200bb pot, fcking kepp

[RudiTurbo]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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Button ($115.90)
SB ($17.50)
BB ($20)
Hero (UTG) ($100)
UTG+1 ($60)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($13.35)
MP3 ($81.90)
CO ($18.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets $3, 3 folds, MP3 calls $3, 4 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 5, 5, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.40, MP3 raises to $10, Hero raises to $27, MP3 calls $17

Turn: ($61.50) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $25, MP3 raises to $51.90 (All-In), Hero calls $26.90

River: ($165.30) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $165.30 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had J, J (full house, fives over Jacks).
MP3 had 7, Q (full house, sevens over fives).
Outcome: MP3 won $162.30


Q7o WAT?



33$ BI'ga tourneyl oli ka J52 flop, QQ'ga rahad sisse KJ vastu, river K
15k stack olex olnud top50 out of 240, 117 said raha, PTSI!

[RudiTurbo]

lol..

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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MP2 ($100)
MP3 ($105.20)
CO ($614.55)
Button ($106.30)
SB ($100)
Hero (BB) ($100)
UTG ($212.90)
UTG+1 ($172.25)
MP1 ($45.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A
UTG bets $4, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $12, 4 folds, Hero raises to $27, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $100 (All-In), Hero calls $73 (All-In)

Flop: ($204.50) J, 7, 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($204.50) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($204.50) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $204.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had A, A (one pair, Aces).
MP2 had K, K (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: MP2 won $201.50

[RudiTurbo]

OMG WOW SICK, lõpux üx river mulle!
Tra, ma teadsin, et Tal 78, kui turni reraisis

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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MP3 ($100)
CO ($101.75)
Button ($100)
SB ($104.70)
BB ($228.90)
UTG ($141.95)
UTG+1 ($101.50)
Hero (MP1) ($332.10)
MP2 ($91.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 5, 5
2 folds, Hero bets $3, 5 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 5, 9, 6 (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero raises to $15, BB calls $11

Turn: ($36.50) 10 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $25, BB raises to $58, Hero calls $33

River: ($152.50) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $152.90 (All-In), Hero calls $152.90

Total pot: $458.30 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB had 7, 8 (straight, ten high).
Hero had 5, 5 (full house, fives over nines).
Outcome: Hero won $455.30

Hetk enne kaartide avamist tõmbas südame päris valusalt puperdama, sessioon ikka miinuses, aga omg mis vennad praegu laudades on, äkki tuleb tagasi veel lõpux!

[RudiTurbo]

Jõudsin tagasi nulli just, uskumatu ning nüüd siis 82,4% equity jälle tõmmati ära

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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Button ($99.50)
SB ($119.75)
BB ($48.55)
UTG ($100.70)
UTG+1 ($117.15)
MP1 ($147.50)
MP2 ($100)
Hero (MP3) ($606.10)
CO ($95.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 10, 10
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $4, 2 folds, Hero calls $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($12.50) 10, A, K (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $8, Hero raises to $24, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $113.15 (All-In), Hero calls $89.15

Turn: ($238.80) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($238.80) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $238.80 | Rake: $3

Results:
UTG+1 had K, A (full house, Aces over Kings).
Hero mucked 10, 10 (full house, tens over Aces).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $235.80


Ja siis lol käsi
see värd regulari setiga peaaegu foldis ära, täica pael!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($101.50)
Hero (CO) ($102.85)
Button ($100.85)
SB ($99)
BB ($180.80)
UTG ($148.90)
UTG+1 ($201.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4, 4
2 folds, MP1 bets $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 6, 9, 4 (4 players)
SB bets $10, BB calls $10, MP1 raises to $29, Hero raises to $98.85 (All-In), SB calls $85 (All-In), BB raises to $168.70, MP1 calls $67 (All-In)

Turn: ($404.70) 10 (4 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($404.70) K (4 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $404.70 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB mucked 9, 10 (two pair, tens and nines).
BB had K, A (one pair, Kings).
MP1 had 6, 6 (three of a kind, sixes).
Hero had 4, 4 (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: MP1 won $396, Hero won $5.70

[RudiTurbo]

lol, täica pael

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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MP1 ($14)
MP2 ($62.25)
CO ($64.85)
Button ($90)
Hero (SB) ($136.60)
BB ($105.40)
UTG ($74.75)
UTG+1 ($107.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, 10
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 3 folds, Button bets $2, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1

Flop: ($7) K, 9, Q (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $4, Button calls $4, Hero raises to $16, UTG+1 raises to $58.65, 1 fold, Hero raises to $134.60 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $46.45 (All-In)

Turn: ($221.20) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($221.20) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $221.20 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had J, 10 (straight, King high).
UTG+1 had 7, 9 (flush, King high).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $218.20

[RudiTurbo]

Pärast tänast sessi on kuu 1805$ alla EV!

Oktoobrist mõtlesin, et hakkan päeval NL25 laskma, öösel või hommikul NL50 ning nädalavahetustel NL100! Nüüd ma hakkan nagunii nagu Jumal jooxma NL25's, SO SICK RSK!

Peax hoopis NL200 shotte võtma, Heater ju kohe kohe tulemas!

[Cash87]

Kui asi lihtsaks ajada, siis sa 3betid to 12, ta 4betib to 27, potis on nüüd sinu 12 + terve tema stäkk = 112 (kuna ta ei foldi). Sul vaja 88 bettida, et võita 112 pot, see on 1:1.27 = vaja on 44% eq. Aga see ei ole tegelikult hea vastus, kuna ta ei calli su shovet iga kord.

Eeldame, et kutt 4bet blufib 20% kordadest (reasonable?). Seega, ühel juhul viiest sa võidad insta $27 kui ta foldib su shovele, ülejäänud neljal korral võid kaotada ~$6, et oleksid breakeven. Kaotada $6 peaks siis tähendama, et sul võib olla shovemisel 6% vähem equityt. (44-6= 38%). Keegi võiks loogika üle kontrollida tho

Keegi lahke inimene äkki seletab lahti arvutuskäigu?

[Dogers]

Kust see 44% tuleb jääb mullegi arusaamatuks, + veel see, et kui ta igakord ei calli, vaid ka foldib, nagu Sa lõpus arvestad, -6% siis ei saa ju alguses ka seda 112 kindlalt arvestada ( on võimalus, et ta foldib )

[RudiTurbo]

109km/h ning 0.35BI trahvi :D

Esimene kihutamine radaris!