PAKSUKESE PÄEVARAAMAT: kuidas ma kaotasin seitsme kuuga 20 000... grammi!

[Godspeed_EJ]

Ja et kui vaadata neid maausulisi või taarausu vilejelaid ja nende erilist suhet looduse ja loomadega siis kas nad just ise puude valu tundsid aga nad ei kohelnud neid ka lihtsalt mingi asja või objektina, puud olid neile eluliselt väga tähtsad, milleta talve üle ei elatud.
Kui oled juba kaotanud kontakti loodusega ongi sul raskem aru saada keskonna probleemidest ja loomakannatustest.inimene kes näiteks metsa oma rämpsu veab pole ilmselgelt maal elanud.

Inimene, kes metsa oma prahti veab on idioot.

See, kas süüa liha või ainult taimset toitu on igaühe vaba valik. Üks pole parem teisest.

[alaska]

Suvi võiks tulla, saaks juba mõnusalt grillida.

[Cagebrah]

Võrratu liha lausa sulab suus, tunned looma nooruspõlve kannatusi.....mmmmm mõnus. Jube grilli isu tekkis seda teemat lugedes.

[Kakahirmutis]

perse ma see kuu ainult 2x mäkis käinud ja need olid ka samal päeval , lamp

[poosapaa]

Inimene, kes metsa oma prahti veab on idioot.

See, kas süüa liha või ainult taimset toitu on igaühe vaba valik. Üks pole parem teisest.

Taimetoitlastel on parem näiteks treeningutest taastumise võime seega jõuavad nad rohkem trenni teha ja saada füüsiliselt kiiremaks ja tugevamaks lühema ajaga. Isiklikult ma ei tea ühtegi head põhjust miks üldse peaks sõõma liha ja mis kasu mu keha saab sellest.

[pastilaa]

Taimetoitlastel on parem näiteks treeningutest taastumise võime seega jõuavad nad rohkem trenni teha ja saada füüsiliselt kiiremaks ja tugevamaks lühema ajaga. Isiklikult ma ei tea ühtegi head põhjust miks üldse peaks sõõma liha ja mis kasu mu keha saab sellest.

on sul mingeid vettpidavaid allikaid ka selliste väidete kohta? buduaari ja telegrammi linke mitte arvestada

http://www.toitumine.ee/taistaimetoi...d-ja-puudused/

[vapsik]

on sul mingeid vettpidavaid allikaid ka selliste väidete kohta? buduaari ja telegrammi linke mitte arvestada

http://www.toitumine.ee/taistaimetoi...d-ja-puudused/

Bolt jookse 100 vabalt 7,5 sekki kanti kui ta taimetoidu peale üle läheks ja enam kananagitsaid ei sööks.

[pastilaa]

Bolt jookse 100 vabalt 7,5 sekki kanti kui ta taimetoidu peale üle läheks ja enam kananagitsaid ei sööks.

väheusutav möga, aga ranka oleks eesti rekordiks küll võimeline siis (10,18)

[Cagebrah]

Taimetoitlastel on parem näiteks treeningutest taastumise võime seega jõuavad nad rohkem trenni teha ja saada füüsiliselt kiiremaks ja tugevamaks lühema ajaga. Isiklikult ma ei tea ühtegi head põhjust miks üldse peaks sõõma liha ja mis kasu mu keha saab sellest.

Sul on täiesti õigus, absoluutselt kõik tippsportlased on taimetoitlased. Tänapäeval pole isegi dopingut vaja, söö lihtsalt kurki ja tomatit, veits ube juurde ning tunned kuidas jõudu tuleb.
Ise mõtled välja seda jaburust mis kirjutad või sa tõesti loed seda kuskilt?

[poosapaa]

Sul on täiesti õigus, absoluutselt kõik tippsportlased on taimetoitlased. Tänapäeval pole isegi dopingut vaja, söö lihtsalt kurki ja tomatit, veits ube juurde ning tunned kuidas jõudu tuleb.
Ise mõtled välja seda jaburust mis kirjutad või sa tõesti loed seda kuskilt?

Mõned taimetoitlastest atleedid
•Albert Beckles - Bodybuilder
•Alexander Dargatz - Bodybuilder, German athlete, 2005 Body-Building World Champion, and physician
•Andreas Cahling - Swedish Bodybuilder
•Anthony Peeler - Basketball Player
•Anton Innauer - Olympic Gold Medal In Ski Jumping
•Aura Andrew - Bodybuilder
•B J Armstrong - Basketball Player Star
•Bill Pear - Bodybuilder
•Bill Walton - Baskeball Player and Sportscaster
•Billie Jean King - Tennis Player
•Brendan Brazier - Professional Ironman Triathlete, Speaker and Author - Vegan
•Carl Lewis - American Track and Field Athlete, 10 Olympic medals including 9 golds, and 10 World Championships medals, of which 8 were golds
•Chris Campbell - American world champion wrestler
•Chris Prince - Vegan Muay Tai and Mixed Martial Arts Fighter
•Christine Vardaros - Profesional Cyclist (Cyclo-Cross)
•Cory Everson - Bodybuilder, 6 Times Mr. Olympia
•Craig Heath - Professional Figure Skater
•Dave Scott - Triathlete and Coach - Six times Ironman World Champion - Vegan
•Denise Nicole - Professional Model and Bodybuilder
•Desmond Howard - American professional football player
•Donny Lalonde - Canadian professional boxer
•Dr. Ruth Heidrich - Triathlete, Health Books - 'Extreme mama'
•Ed Bauer - Bodybuilder
•Ed Templeton - Proffesional Skateboarder
•Edwin Moses - Track and Field athlete, Olympic champion - 4 Golden Medals
•Elena Walendzik - 2005 German featherweight boxing champion
•Eustace Miles - Tennis player and author, 10 time British Tennis Champion
•Giacomo Marchese - Bodybuilder
•Jack LaLanne - American fitness, exercise and nutritional expert, celebrity, lecturer, and motivational speaker
•Jacque Vaughn - American professional basketball player
•Jim Morris - Mr America 1973 y Mister Olympia 1996
•Joel Kirkilis - Bodybuilder and Lifter, Victoria (Aus) Bodybuilding champion, 2009
•John Salley - Basketball Player
•Johnny Weissmuller - Swimmer and Actor of Tarzan
•Judy Ledenlge - British world hang gliding champion
•Jutta Müller - German Skater and Skating Coach, windsurfing World Cup champion
•Kathy Johnson - American Artistic gymnast and commentator
•Kenneth G. Williams - Professional Vegan Bodybuilder
•Killer Kowalski - Canadian professional wrestler, He trained WWE professional wrestlers, including Triple H
•Leroy Burrell - American track & field star, Olympic champion
•Leslie Marx - American fencer and two-time national champion
•Luiz Freitas - Bodybuilder
•Mac Danzig - Professional Mixed Martial Arts Fighter and Instructor
•Marv Levy - Professional American and Canadian Football coach
•Murray Rose - Men's Swimming at 17 - 4 Golden Medals for Australia
•Paavo Nurmi - Finnish long-distance runner and 12-time Olympic medal winner
•Pat Reeves - Marathon Runner, Personal Trainer, BAWLA Coach and Fitness Consultant
•Patrick Reiners - Bodybuilder
•Peter Hussing - Boxing Champion
•Ricardo Moreira - Vegan MMA Fighter
•Rich Roll - Athlete
•Rob Bigwood - Profesional Armwrestler
•Robbie Hazeley - Vegan Bodybuilder (53 years Old)
•Robert Cheeke - Vegan Bodybuilder, President of Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness - VeganBodybuilding.com
•Robert Lichtenwalner - Mountain Biker
•Robert Millar - Scottish professional cyclist who won the King of the Mountains competition
•Robert Parish - Baskeball Player, NBA Star
•Roy Hilligenn - Bodybuilder, Mr. America 1951
•Ruth Heidrich - American Health Educator and Three-time Ironman Contestant
•Ryan Wilson - Strength Athlete, Strongman competition
•Salim Stoudamire - Professional Basketball Player in the NBA
•Scott Jurek - Ultramarathoner
•Sebastian Grubb - Fitness Trainer, Nutrition Coach, Professional Dancer
•Silken Laumann - Canadian champion rower 2 Golden Medals
•Tiffany Croker - Weightlifter
•Tim VanOrden - Track & Field, Road Racing, Mountain Running, Stair Climbing
•Toni Innauer - Sky Jumper
•Tony LaRussa - American Baseball Team Manager
•Tonya Kay - Professional Dancer
•Torre Washington - Bodybuilder
•Weia Reinboud - Masters High jumper
•Willie Austin - Former World Class Athlete, internationally recognised As Strength Trainer

Physical fitness and vegetarian diets: is there a relation?
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/570s.full#fn-1

[Cagebrah]

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Mõned taimetoitlastest atleedid
•Albert Beckles - Bodybuilder
•Alexander Dargatz - Bodybuilder, German athlete, 2005 Body-Building World Champion, and physician
•Andreas Cahling - Swedish Bodybuilder
•Anthony Peeler - Basketball Player
•Anton Innauer - Olympic Gold Medal In Ski Jumping
•Aura Andrew - Bodybuilder
•B J Armstrong - Basketball Player Star
•Bill Pear - Bodybuilder
•Bill Walton - Baskeball Player and Sportscaster
•Billie Jean King - Tennis Player
•Brendan Brazier - Professional Ironman Triathlete, Speaker and Author - Vegan
•Carl Lewis - American Track and Field Athlete, 10 Olympic medals including 9 golds, and 10 World Championships medals, of which 8 were golds
•Chris Campbell - American world champion wrestler
•Chris Prince - Vegan Muay Tai and Mixed Martial Arts Fighter
•Christine Vardaros - Profesional Cyclist (Cyclo-Cross)
•Cory Everson - Bodybuilder, 6 Times Mr. Olympia
•Craig Heath - Professional Figure Skater
•Dave Scott - Triathlete and Coach - Six times Ironman World Champion - Vegan
•Denise Nicole - Professional Model and Bodybuilder
•Desmond Howard - American professional football player
•Donny Lalonde - Canadian professional boxer
•Dr. Ruth Heidrich - Triathlete, Health Books - 'Extreme mama'
•Ed Bauer - Bodybuilder
•Ed Templeton - Proffesional Skateboarder
•Edwin Moses - Track and Field athlete, Olympic champion - 4 Golden Medals
•Elena Walendzik - 2005 German featherweight boxing champion
•Eustace Miles - Tennis player and author, 10 time British Tennis Champion
•Giacomo Marchese - Bodybuilder
•Jack LaLanne - American fitness, exercise and nutritional expert, celebrity, lecturer, and motivational speaker
•Jacque Vaughn - American professional basketball player
•Jim Morris - Mr America 1973 y Mister Olympia 1996
•Joel Kirkilis - Bodybuilder and Lifter, Victoria (Aus) Bodybuilding champion, 2009
•John Salley - Basketball Player
•Johnny Weissmuller - Swimmer and Actor of Tarzan
•Judy Ledenlge - British world hang gliding champion
•Jutta Müller - German Skater and Skating Coach, windsurfing World Cup champion
•Kathy Johnson - American Artistic gymnast and commentator
•Kenneth G. Williams - Professional Vegan Bodybuilder
•Killer Kowalski - Canadian professional wrestler, He trained WWE professional wrestlers, including Triple H
•Leroy Burrell - American track & field star, Olympic champion
•Leslie Marx - American fencer and two-time national champion
•Luiz Freitas - Bodybuilder
•Mac Danzig - Professional Mixed Martial Arts Fighter and Instructor
•Marv Levy - Professional American and Canadian Football coach
•Murray Rose - Men's Swimming at 17 - 4 Golden Medals for Australia
•Paavo Nurmi - Finnish long-distance runner and 12-time Olympic medal winner
•Pat Reeves - Marathon Runner, Personal Trainer, BAWLA Coach and Fitness Consultant
•Patrick Reiners - Bodybuilder
•Peter Hussing - Boxing Champion
•Ricardo Moreira - Vegan MMA Fighter
•Rich Roll - Athlete
•Rob Bigwood - Profesional Armwrestler
•Robbie Hazeley - Vegan Bodybuilder (53 years Old)
•Robert Cheeke - Vegan Bodybuilder, President of Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness - VeganBodybuilding.com
•Robert Lichtenwalner - Mountain Biker
•Robert Millar - Scottish professional cyclist who won the King of the Mountains competition
•Robert Parish - Baskeball Player, NBA Star
•Roy Hilligenn - Bodybuilder, Mr. America 1951
•Ruth Heidrich - American Health Educator and Three-time Ironman Contestant
•Ryan Wilson - Strength Athlete, Strongman competition
•Salim Stoudamire - Professional Basketball Player in the NBA
•Scott Jurek - Ultramarathoner
•Sebastian Grubb - Fitness Trainer, Nutrition Coach, Professional Dancer
•Silken Laumann - Canadian champion rower 2 Golden Medals
•Tiffany Croker - Weightlifter
•Tim VanOrden - Track & Field, Road Racing, Mountain Running, Stair Climbing
•Toni Innauer - Sky Jumper
•Tony LaRussa - American Baseball Team Manager
•Tonya Kay - Professional Dancer
•Torre Washington - Bodybuilder
•Weia Reinboud - Masters High jumper
•Willie Austin - Former World Class Athlete, internationally recognised As Strength Trainer

Physical fitness and vegetarian diets: is there a relation?
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/570s.full#fn-1

Puusalt pakkudes arvan, et segatoidulisi saab siia 100x rohkem välja tuua ning edukamaid sportlasi.

[poosapaa]

Puusalt pakkudes arvan, et segatoidulisi saab siia 100x rohkem välja tuua ning edukamaid sportlasi.

me teame et doping annab sooritusvõimele juurde 10-20 prossu
ja et doping on keelatud sest see on tervisele ohtlik muidugi teatud tingimustel on võimalik legaalselt võtta keelatud aineid . anaboolseid steroide saab isegi apteekidest
Kui suur on tõenäosus et sportlane kes on taimetoitlane tervislikel põhuste hakkab võtma dopingut ja kui ta võta ei suuda ta saavutada selliseid tulemusi .mitte keegi mäleta teise koha omanike võitja osaks saab ainult au ,kuuls ja rikkus .

[Miisu]

Taimetoitlastel on parem näiteks treeningutest taastumise võime seega jõuavad nad rohkem trenni teha ja saada füüsiliselt kiiremaks ja tugevamaks lühema ajaga. Isiklikult ma ei tea ühtegi head põhjust miks üldse peaks sõõma liha ja mis kasu mu keha saab sellest.

WOW. ma tahaks ka viiteid teadusartiklitele palun. see on päris päris julge väide :)

[Godspeed_EJ]

Taimetoitlastel on parem näiteks treeningutest taastumise võime seega jõuavad nad rohkem trenni teha ja saada füüsiliselt kiiremaks ja tugevamaks lühema ajaga. Isiklikult ma ei tea ühtegi head põhjust miks üldse peaks sõõma liha ja mis kasu mu keha saab sellest.

Ei hakka asjata vaidlema sellel teemal, aga edaspidi oleks kena, kui suudaksid ka oma väiteid tõestada mõne viitega teaduslikule uuringule.

Sama loogikaga võiksin kirjutada - Isiklikult ma ei tea ühtegi head põhjust miks üldse ei peaks sõõma liha ja mis kasu mu keha saab sellest.

[poosapaa]

Ei hakka asjata vaidlema sellel teemal, aga edaspidi oleks kena, kui suudaksid ka oma väiteid tõestada mõne viitega teaduslikule uuringule.

Sama loogikaga võiksin kirjutada - Isiklikult ma ei tea ühtegi head põhjust miks üldse ei peaks sõõma liha ja mis kasu mu keha saab sellest.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/570s.full#fn-1

[CheekyMullet]

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/570s.full#fn-1

Loe nüüd ise uuesti kokkuvõte läbi ja vaata, kas see uuring ikka toetab sinu väiteid.

[poosapaa]

Athletes who consume diets rich in fruit, vegetables, and whole grains receive high amounts of antioxidant nutrients that help reduce the oxidative stress associated with heavy exertion. Whereas athletes are most often concerned with performance, vegetarian diets also provide long-term health benefits and a reduction in risk of chronic disease.
video panen kah et saate äkki paremini aru
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/enha...ng-adaptation/

[Godspeed_EJ]

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/570s.full#fn-1

CONCLUSION

A vegetarian diet per se is not associated with improved aerobic endurance performance; however, other benefits make this dietary regimen worthy of consideration by serious athletes. A plant-based diet facilitates high-carbohydrate intake, which is essential to support prolonged exercise. A well-planned vegetarian diet can provide athletes with adequate amounts of all known nutrients, although the potential for suboptimal iron, zinc, trace element, and protein intake exists if the diet is too restrictive. However, this concern exists for all athletes, vegetarian or nonvegetarian, who have poor dietary habits. Athletes who consume diets rich in fruit, vegetables, and whole grains receive high amounts of antioxidant nutrients that help reduce the oxidative stress associated with heavy exertion. Whereas athletes are most often concerned with performance, vegetarian diets also provide long-term health benefits and a reduction in risk of chronic disease. In 2 studies, a combination of regular physical activity and vegetarian dietary practices resulted in lower mortality rates did than a vegetarian diet or exercise alone (2, 81).

Bolditud osa võtab kokku selle, mida üritasin öelda.

Ma olen sellega nõus, et taimset toitu peab olema toidulaual piisavalt. Toit peabki olema mitmekesine. Väide, et vegetarian diet on parem kui omnivore diet on complete and utter BS.

[poosapaa]

Ma olen sellega nõus, et taimset toitu peab olema toidulaual piisavalt. Toit peabki olema mitmekesine. Väide, et vegetarian diet on parem kui omnivore diet on complete and utter BS.[/QUOTE]

kle näteks ameerikas ei või kasutad muna reklaamis ja pakendil sellist sõna nagu tervislik(healty)sest see pole lihtsalt nii kuidas ma ei saa väita et veg toit pole tervislik , inimesle kasulik ja parem .
tervise kana=pärasoole vähi kana
tere piim =tere südamehaigus

[Konso]

Rohkem trenni ei pruugi sind teha füüsiliselt kiiremaks ja tugevamaks lühema ajaga. Oma füüsilise keha võid sellega kiiremini tuksi küll keerata.

http://sport.delfi.ee/news/tennis/ma...se?id=70816363