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fyte
08.06.10, 19:26
Tere! Pmst olen juba mõnda aega seda foorumit ja just selle alafoorumi teemasid tihedalt sirvinud, nii et mõtlesin et oleks ka aeg endale kasutaja teha ja ka siia teema, et vahel küsida nõu kuidas mingeid käsi mängida jms.
Igatahes endast siis nii palju, et mingi paar aastat tagasi sai sõpradega niisama laivis turnasid mängitud, aga kui nüüd veebruaris 18 sain, siis mõtlesin et võiks ka netis mängimisega algust teha. Saigi siis triobetti regatud ja 8 euri peale kantud ning mõne päevaga oli sellest 40 saanud, siis mõne aja möödudes läksin ka broke. Mõni kuu hiljem lucksin sealse carnage turnal 1. koha, millega sain 500€, millest valdava enamuse kandsin välja ning ülejäänuga pelasin trios nl10/DoN/MTTsid ning ofc seda väljaspool br managementi, mis hiljem valusalt tunda andis, kui tildates sai pmst enamus kasum maha mängitud.
Nüüd paar nädalat tagasi, kui triobet litsentsi sai ja enam seal mängida ei saanud, siis võtsin rahad sealt välja ja tegin Toweri tuppa 180$ depo, et seal 5max nl4ga korralikult alustada, ja seekord siis BR järgi. Tavaliselt pelan 6 aknaga, kuna 17" monitorile väga rohkem ei mahu (tile). Ahjaa, mingi nädal tagasi sai ka ka HEM soetatud ning tundub et sellest on senini kasu olnud, kuna graafikus on vähem swinge.

see siis toweri senine nl4 graafik, sample veel väike, aga kavatsen volüümi suurendada - http://www.upload.ee/image/624543/alltime.jpg pmst reaalselt on winnings mingi 20-30$ väiksem, kuna olen ka SNGsid mänginud veits, ent mitte kuigi edukalt nagu näha. :D

ja see praeguse eduka sessi oma - http://www.upload.ee/image/624550/83wr.jpg

camu
08.06.10, 19:45
graafik on ilus!
edu!

inward
08.06.10, 19:51
Nice graph, jõudu ja jaksu.

fyte
09.06.10, 14:41
Millal oleks mõttekas nl10'sse liikuda? Praegu nl4s on wr 15k käe peale (38h pelamist) 30bb/100, donke on üsnagi rohkelt. Natuke üle 30bi oleks nl10 jaoks olemas.

Kotkas1000
09.06.10, 15:23
Siis ma ei saa aru, miks sa juba ei mängi NL10? 20bi on täiesti piisav.

fyte
09.06.10, 16:12
Sai siis shotid võetud, täiesti masendav mis run. -4bi kokkuvõttes..

vastas vpip 80ga donk, kes istus mingi 5bi'ga lauas :) - http://www.pokerhand.org/?5496245

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5496254

jällegi mingi donk, kes pidevalt AI lahmis - http://www.pokerhand.org/?5496262

turnis oleks pidanud bettima vast, aga no siuke luckbox ikka, et juba.. http://www.pokerhand.org/?5496266

vilkar
09.06.10, 16:27
Siis ma ei saa aru, miks sa juba ei mängi NL10? 20bi on täiesti piisav.

pigem 30 bi ja kui langed 25 peale siis grindid uuesti nl 4 kuni 300 daala koos ja uus shot imo kindlam ja ohutum muidu võid endale mingi scared money tunde peale lasta aga eks ise tead.

Nice graph btw mul endal trios nl 4 samasugune minek vahepeal lasin 55bb/100 kuskil aga nüüd nats rahulikum 25-30/bb sajale 6-9 lauda korraga ja toodab normilt. endal plaan nädala või kahe jooksul ka nl 10 liikuda edasi kui 300 euri koos ilusti.

Mis rakeback süsteem toweris kui on?

Kotkas1000
09.06.10, 16:45
pigem 30 bi ja kui langed 25 peale siis grindid uuesti nl 4 kuni 300 daala koos ja uus shot imo kindlam ja ohutum muidu võid endale mingi scared money tunde peale lasta aga eks ise tead.

Nice graph btw mul endal trios nl 4 samasugune minek vahepeal lasin 55bb/100 kuskil aga nüüd nats rahulikum 25-30/bb sajale 6-9 lauda korraga ja toodab normilt. endal plaan nädala või kahe jooksul ka nl 10 liikuda edasi kui 300 euri koos ilusti.

Mis rakeback süsteem toweris kui on?

Kui suudad ennast talitseda, siis mis vahet sellel on, millise arvu BI juures sa paned endale stop lossi peale? Vabalt võib ka 200$ proovida NL10 ja 150$ juures tagasi liikuda. Arvestame sellega, et NL10 on ikka väga lihtne limiit tegelikult.
Aga vb on probleem minus, et olen mitte just kõige konservatiivsema BRM kodanik. Ise kolisin 400$ omal ajal juba NL25. Sain biiti, siis robinal alla tagasi. Seni kaua pushisin, kui mind tervitas sõber heater NL25 ja bankroll hakkas kasvama. Lihtsalt peab enda jaoks piirid paika panema, millal lõpetada. Kui selleks ei ole suuteline, siis ei piisa ka 100bi bankrollist.

oohoh
09.06.10, 17:59
Sai siis shotid võetud, täiesti masendav mis run. -4bi kokkuvõttes..

vastas vpip 80ga donk, kes istus mingi 5bi'ga lauas :) - http://www.pokerhand.org/?5496245

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5496254

jällegi mingi donk, kes pidevalt AI lahmis - http://www.pokerhand.org/?5496262

turnis oleks pidanud bettima vast, aga no siuke luckbox ikka, et juba.. http://www.pokerhand.org/?5496266

xD owned

Provoker
09.06.10, 20:03
Mõtlesin, et teen sulle metat esimese käega ning 4bet shovesin ja sul juhtumisi kohe AA varrukast võtta:D Päiris looselt lased. Pikka aega olid lauas 40/35 sarnase stiiliga

fyte
09.06.10, 20:52
Mis rakeback süsteem toweris kui on?
affiliate kaudu 43%, PM kui täpsemalt tahad teada.


Mõtlesin, et teen sulle metat esimese käega ning 4bet shovesin ja sul juhtumisi kohe AA varrukast võtta:D Päiris looselt lased. Pikka aega olid lauas 40/35 sarnase stiiliga
no mul ükski sess tegelt pikalt ei kesta, mingi alla 1k käe keskmiselt. :p
ju siis seal lauas oli väike sample, overall on vpip 30 ja pfr mingi 20 kanti, võiks suurem olla tegelt. 5maxi kohta imo normal, toidab vähemalt.

// vb vpip nii suur seetõttu, et kui mingid vaalad on lauas, siis üritan lihtsalt peaaegu alati nendega ühte potti saada.

fyte
09.06.10, 23:37
Vaatasin järgi ja tegelt oli isegi -5bi kanti nl10, aga kuna hommikul olin ka veits n4 lasknud ja nüüd praegu tegin taas väikse sessi, siis vaatamata nl10 downswingile sai tänu praegusele 10bi sessile ikkagi päeva ilusti plussi. :P

http://www.upload.ee/image/627120/nl10nefailshotday.jpg

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üks käsi ka:

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Board:
CHADSTER93 (BB): $14.50
TRuE-Famblev (UTG): $3.96
tocha113 (CO): $2
fyte (Button): $9.36
Deadoluck (SB): $8.75

Hero is BTN A:spade:Q:diamond:

Pre-flop:
(1 folds)
fyte raises to $.16
Deadoluck raises to $.48
CHADSTER93 calls $.48
fyte calls $.48

Flop: ($1.66) 8:diamond:A:club:5:diamond: (4 Players)
Deadoluck bets $1.25
CHADSTER93 raises to $14.02 and is all-in
Hero ?

Easy fold? Mõlemad vastased olid mingi 35/20 stattidega.

fyte
12.06.10, 22:53
ffs, mitu suurt potti paari lühikese sessiga olen üle saanud nii, et flopil nupud setiga sisse saanud ja flush draw callib ja igakord on see flush ka maha tulnud ja ofc siis ei või riverisse see 10-outer ka kunagi ära tulla...

fyte
25.06.10, 01:25
http://www.upload.ee/image/653464/nl10nehtr.jpg -
Viimased nl10 sessid. swingine veel, aga viimased paartuhat kätt sai mängitud 9 aknaga (6 asemel) ja tightimalt - varasema 27 vpip asemel oli tol sessil 22.

http://www.upload.ee/image/653473/alltime2.jpg-
Alltime graph siis. Seal kuskil 14k handi juures tegin esimesed nl10 shotid, kus sain mõned suuremad suckoudid ning 24k juures sai nl10t mängitud veits vindise peaga ja tulemus oli -5bi 333 käega.:biggrin:

// üks tore käsi ka vaala vastu: http://www.pokerhand.org/?5526946

Mäksu
25.06.10, 01:31
Nice, gl !

fyte
04.07.10, 08:39
Pärast seda 56$ sessi tuli järgmine päev downswing külla ja sai ka vähe tildatud ning tulemus oli see, et kaotasin kuskil 70$, nüüd peale seda tegin pausi ja eile hakkasin taas grindima, nl4 siis seekord.
Praegu tegin siukse sessi, et kaks nl10 akent ja seitse nl4, fishe jagus:
http://www.upload.ee/image/669025/hommikunesess.jpg



Üks käsi ka, vastas oli 60/20 donk (250 kätt). Kuidas sellist kätt siukse vastase vastu mängida?

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fyte is BTN with A:club:7:club:

Board:
Jack_No 7 (BB): $8.15
dfmn (UTG): $7.99
MartinianoC (CO): $1.19
fyte (Button): $16.10
Velsk1 (SB): $4.34

Pre-flop:
(2 folds), fyte raises to $.16, (1 folds), Jack_No 7 calls $.16

Flop: ($.38) 7:heart:4:spade:4:club: (2 Players)
Jack_No 7 checks, fyte bets $.34, Jack_No 7 calls $.34

Turn: ($1.06) 3:heart: (2 Players)
Jack_No 7 bets $.52, fyte calls $.52

River: ($2.10) 2:heart:(2 Players)
Jack_No 7 bets $2.06, fyte calls $2.06

pikk28
04.07.10, 08:49
pmst sa biidid siin ainult bluffi või 55-e.
turnis vikaks käe mucki ära

fyte
18.07.10, 22:02
väike update:

juulis volüüm äärmiselt väike olnud, kuna olin laagris ja oli muud tegemist, aga nüüd olen vaikselt grindinud ja graafik siiani päris korralik imo.

http://www.upload.ee/image/693124/juuliseis.jpg


tänane graafik: http://www.upload.ee/image/693112/3sessip2ev.jpg

kaardijooks oli täna alla keskmise, paar suckouti + setupi tegid graafiku swingiseks, aga lõpp on kena. :biggrin:

sain ka suurima poti osaliseks. nl10nes pmst 200bb.

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Board:
baygnome (BB): $6.16
raenta (UTG): $19.81
soicher (CO): $11.28
WhatsUpFish (Button): $9.85
fyte (SB): $20.49

Dealt to fyte Q:heart: T:heart:

Pre-flop:
raenta raises to $.40, (2 folds), fyte calls $.35, (1 folds)

Flop: ($.90) J:club: 9:heart: K:heart: (2 Players)
fyte bets $.70, raenta raises to $3, fyte raises to $4.60, raenta calls $2.30

Turn: ($10.80) 4:diamond: (2 Players)
fyte bets $5.75, raenta raises to $14.11, fyte calls $8.36

River: ($39.02) 9:diamond: (2 Players)

Results:
fyte Showed Q:heart: T:heart:
raenta Showed J:diamond: K:spade:
fyte wins $38.22

vastas oli miski 40 vpip'ga agro fish.



// olen mängind nl4 ja nl10 segamini suht.

fyte
19.07.10, 23:34
Lõpetasin just 3h sessi. Nii swingine on, et südame ajab pahaks suht, aga vähemalt sain tagasi plussi tehtud. Kui seal kusagil 1,6k käe juures jälle BE olin, siis plaanisin niikaua mängida kui pmst uuesti +3bi.

http://www.upload.ee/image/695233/swong.jpg

paar kätt ka:

1. Oli õige siin slowplayda niimoodi? Ses suhtes et ta range on suur ja lai, AA oli üsna ootamatu.
Vastas oli 20/15 reg.

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Board:
KOSHK (BB): $19.72
Sorokin7 (UTG): $2.71
ir73_g2 (CO): $9.95
fyte (Button): $14.68
alkulima (SB): $12.29

Dealt to fyte 8:spade: 8:heart:

Pre-flop:
(1 folds), ir73_g2 raises to $.40, fyte calls $.40, (2 folds)

Flop: ($.95) 8:club: 3:club: 8:diamond: (2 Players)
ir73_g2 bets $.70, fyte calls $.70

Turn: ($2.35) 2:club: (2 Players)
ir73_g2 checks, fyte checks

River: ($2.35) A:spade: (2 Players)
ir73_g2 bets $1.25, fyte raises to $2.70, ir73_g2 raises to $7.60, fyte calls $6.15

Results:
ir73_g2 Showed A:club: A:heart:
fyte Showed 8:spade: 8:heart:
fyte wins $19.05



2. 26/23 LAG vastas, kui tihti siin 7x vastas on? Oli aru saada, et see vend üritas representida tripsi.

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Board:
KOSHK (UTG): $18.97
Sorokin7 (CO): $2.79
ir73_g2 (Button): $10.35
fyte (SB): $25.07
alkulima (BB): $10.97

Dealt to fyte A:spade: Q:spade:

Pre-flop:
(3 folds), fyte raises to $.35, alkulima calls $.30

Flop: ($.80) 5:diamond: 7:diamond: A:heart: (2 Players)
fyte bets $.60, alkulima calls $.60

Turn: ($2) 7:club: (2 Players)
fyte bets $1.25, alkulima raises to $3, fyte calls $1.75

River: ($8) 9:heart: (2 Players)
fyte checks, alkulima bets $6.97, fyte calls $6.97

Results:
fyte Showed A:spade: Q:spade:
alkulima Showed 4:heart: Q:heart:
fyte wins $20.85




3. See käsi vist küll äärmiselt valesti mängitud. Kas flopil oleks kohe tulnud nupud panna? FYbrain oli 15/13, riveril ägisedes callisin, lootes et ehk näitab nõrgemad 2 paari vms ette, aga nagu arvata oli, siis mitte.

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Board:
fyte (CO): $50.19
cafehelo (Button): $20.46
mvizi75 (SB): $5.30
FYBrain (BB): $11.40

Dealt to fyte 8:club: Q:club:

Pre-flop:
fyte raises to $.40, (1 folds), mvizi75 calls $.35, FYBrain calls $.30

Flop: ($1.20) T:club: 3:club: 8:heart: (3 Players)
mvizi75 bets $.10, FYBrain calls $.10, fyte raises to $.70, mvizi75 calls $.60, FYBrain raises to $2.15, fyte calls $1.55, mvizi75 calls $1.55

Turn: ($7.95) A:heart: (3 Players)
mvizi75 checks, FYBrain bets $3, fyte calls $3, mvizi75 calls $2.65

River: ($16.60) Q:heart: (3 Players)
FYBrain bets $5.75, fyte calls $5.75

Results:
FYBrain Showed 3:heart: 3:diamond:
mvizi75 Showed 7:club: J:club:
fyte Showed 8:club: Q:club:
FYBrain wins $11.59
FYBrain wins $15.11



4. Vastas oli 45/1 fish, ei suutnud krt riveril foldida, kuigi suht obv oli tegelikult, et ta seda masti niimoodi ootas. Riveril 100% fold?

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Board:
-2tone- (BB): $9.70
tomaen (UTG): $9.93
treDRAGONS (CO): $2.82
fyte (Button): $14.26
beatome (SB): $9.90

Dealt to fyte 4:heart: 4:spade:

Pre-flop:
tomaen calls $.10, treDRAGONS calls $.10, fyte raises to $.40, (2 folds), tomaen calls $.30, treDRAGONS calls $.30

Flop: ($1.35) 2:spade: J:spade: 4:club: (3 Players)
tomaen checks, treDRAGONS bets $.10, fyte raises to $.80, tomaen calls $.80, treDRAGONS calls $.70

Turn: ($3.75) 7:heart: (3 Players)
tomaen checks, treDRAGONS checks, fyte bets $2.70, tomaen calls $2.70, (1 folds)

River: ($9.15) K:spade: (2 Players)
tomaen bets $6.03, fyte calls $6.03

Results:
tomaen Showed 6:spade: T:spade:
fyte Showed 4:heart: 4:spade:
tomaen wins $20.15

fyte
20.07.10, 22:40
Oskab keegi targem kommenteerida neid käsi?

nikitheone
20.07.10, 22:48
1 käsi - wp, kui sul nii hea käsi, siis sul pole mõtet üldiselt panustada - kui vastasel on midagi, paneb ta ise ja kui ei, siis viskab sinu panuse peale maha. anna talle kaart, et ta hitiks oma ässa ja siis koori tühjaks.

2 käsi - anna õiged statsid, need ei ütle mitte midagi hetkel
3 käsi - oleks flopil rohkem pannud
4 käsi - pre rohkem pannud ja flopil ka, ise lasid odawalt drawida.

fyte
21.07.10, 20:46
Tänud kommenteerimise eest.

Igatahes täna pelasin uuesti ja taaskord oli graafik swingine, vaatamata sellele, et lõpuks jäin +3,5bi. Panen mõned suuremad kaotused siia.

1. Vastas 82/29 vaal. Kas oleks pidanud ära foldima flopi minraise peale? Turnil callisin FD pärast ära, kuigi aimasin, et olen taga.

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Board:
samydeluxe00 (UTG): $4.49
pavlinic (CO): $10.89
lenz4984 (Button): $8.22
fyte (SB): $19.44
mopcbi4 (BB): $10.22

Dealt to fyte A:spade: A:heart:

Pre-flop:
(2 folds), lenz4984 raises to $.20, fyte raises to $.65, (1 folds), lenz4984 calls $.50

Flop: ($1.50) 7:heart: 5:spade: 6:spade: (2 Players)
fyte bets $1.50, lenz4984 raises to $3, fyte calls $1.50

Turn: ($7.50) 9:spade: (2 Players)
fyte checks, lenz4984 bets $4.52, fyte calls $4.52

River: ($16.54) 3:diamond: (2 Players)

Results:
fyte Showed A:spade: A:heart:
lenz4984 Showed 9:heart: 8:heart:
lenz4984 wins $15.72




2. 40/17 fish vastas. Turnis oleks vist pidanud suuremalt bettime või shovema ja riveris c/c?

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Board:
lundotterup (UTG): $5.91
LuckySmit (CO): $10
saburbans (Button): $15.50
xxxwolfff (SB): $11.72
fyte (BB): $9.83

Dealt to fyte K:diamond: A:diamond:

Pre-flop:
lundotterup raises to $.20, (1 folds), saburbans calls $.20, (1 folds), fyte raises to $.75, lundotterup calls $.65, saburbans calls $.65

Flop: ($2.60) 6:club: 6:heart: A:heart: (3 Players)
fyte bets $1.75, (1 folds), saburbans calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.10) Q:spade: (2 Players)
fyte bets $2.50, saburbans calls $2.50

River: ($11.10) 7:heart: (2 Players)
fyte bets $3, saburbans calls $3

Results:
fyte Showed K:diamond: A:diamond:
saburbans Showed 4:heart: 3:heart:
saburbans wins $16.25




3. Vastas agro donk, 57/49. Ei suutnud flopis foldida, kuna pot oli nii suur juba ja ta ranges olid veel kõiksugu broadwayd jm ning isegi kui hittis flopil, siis oli mul oute.

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Board:
giogeorg (CO): $7.29
vitalik19 (Button): $11.45
garifas (SB): $10.86
fyte (BB): $17.26
Aoi_07 (UTG): $9.27

Dealt to fyte A:club: K:spade:

Pre-flop:
(1 folds), giogeorg raises to $.40, vitalik19 calls $.40, garifas calls $.35, fyte raises to $1.60, giogeorg calls $1.20, vitalik19 calls $1.20, garifas calls $1.20

Flop: ($6.50) 7:spade: 4:club: 6:club: (4 Players)
garifas checks, fyte checks, giogeorg bets $5.69, (2 folds), fyte calls $5.69

Turn: ($17.88) Q:heart: (2 Players)

River: ($17.88) A:heart: (2 Players)

Results:
fyte Showed A:club: K:spade:
giogeorg Showed 8:heart: 5:heart:
giogeorg wins $17.78




4. 25/16 reg vastas. Flopi call oli õige? Turnis oleks muidu foldinud ära, aga seal ta checkis. Oleks pidanud taipama, et see trips seal on, lootsin riveril callides, et ehk on Qx.

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Board:
matase87 (SB): $9.20
jrlazarindo_ (BB): $9.76
fyte (UTG): $10
Chik Chirik (CO): $10.55
Hartmann.79 (Button): $16.18

Dealt to fyte Q:spade: A:club:

Pre-flop:
fyte raises to $.40, (1 folds), Hartmann.79 calls $.40, (1 folds), jrlazarindo_ calls $.30

Flop: ($1.25) 2:diamond: Q:heart: 2:heart: (3 Players)
jrlazarindo_ bets $.95, fyte calls $.95, Hartmann.79 raises to $2.50, (1 folds), fyte calls $1.55

Turn: ($7.20) K:heart: (2 Players)
fyte checks, Hartmann.79 checks

River: ($7.20) T:spade: (2 Players)
fyte checks, Hartmann.79 bets $3.60, fyte calls $3.60

Results:
Hartmann.79 Showed A:spade: 2:spade:
fyte Showed Q:spade: A:club:
Hartmann.79 wins $14.40




Ja siis vahelduseks üks võidetud pot, kus tuli 10 outer mulle ka ära:

5. 40/25 fish vastas. Kas sellises olukorras on küllalt tihti vastas FD / FD + paar / 2 paari, et shove callida?

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Board:
forssseti (CO): $21.80
DHursus (Button): $9.87
fyte (SB): $16.08
addgrant22 (BB): $10
muurari11 (UTG): $10.20

Dealt to fyte 2:spade: 2:diamond:

Pre-flop:
(2 folds), DHursus raises to $.35, fyte calls $.30, (1 folds)

Flop: ($.80) Q:heart: 2:heart: A:heart: (2 Players)
fyte bets $.70, DHursus raises to $1.40, fyte calls $.70

Turn: ($3.60) 4:club: (2 Players)
fyte bets $1.75, DHursus raises to $8.12, fyte calls $6.37

River: ($19.84) 4:diamond: (2 Players)

Results:
fyte Showed 2:spade: 2:diamond:
DHursus Showed 8:heart: 9:heart:
fyte wins $18.85



Tänud neile, kes viitsivad käed läbi vaadata ja kommenteerida.


//
pane käed spoileritesse
done.

nalg
21.07.10, 20:58
bettide suurused on kohati paigast ära

1. käsi: fish reisis pf 0.20, sina pane 1 või 1.20, ta maksab sulle selle kinni
2. käsi: samamoodi, et fish reisib ja üks call, sina pane suuremalt üle 1.20-1.40
seal käes paneks flopis ja turnis samuti rohkem

nikitheone
21.07.10, 21:34
pane käed spoileritesse

fyte
23.07.10, 14:47
snyggTora (UTG) - 25/22
Scholja (SB) - 27/20

On kasumlik siukses olukorras callida üldiselt?

Ongame, $0.05/0.10 Hold'em Cash Games, 5 Players
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Board:
Teteshka (BB): $14.49
snyggTora (UTG): $5.98
lollol61 (CO): $12.04
fyte (Button): $34.39
Scholja (SB): $9.72

Dealt to fyte Q:club: Q:heart:

Pre-flop:
snyggTora raises to $.30, (1 folds), fyte raises to $1.25, Scholja raises to $9.72, (1 folds), snyggTora calls $5.68, Hero ???

(1 folds)

Flop: ($17.10) 5:diamond: 4:spade: J:club: (2 Players)

Turn: ($17.10) T:club: (2 Players)

River: ($17.10) 2:diamond: (2 Players)

Results:
Scholja Showed K:club: A:heart:
snyggTora Showed K:heart: J:heart:
snyggTora wins $13.31



PS, oleks tore kui keegi viitsiks veel eelmised käed ka üle vaadata.

ristik
23.07.10, 16:31
kahe vastase vastu on QQ liiga saast AI jaoks v.a kui pole mingeid riide või pole näinud neid saastaga all-ini tagumas. Parimal juhul saad AK-d vastu ja ka siis pole lood kiita. Teiseks shorty tõste UTG-lt ja all-ini callimine on kindlasti mingine premium. Seega kindel fold

fyte
30.07.10, 01:45
Kuidas statsid on 5maxi kohta? pfr peaks suurem olema, veel midagi?

VPIP 23
PFR 17
3bet % 3.9
vs 3bet call% 55.0
4bet range 1.0
Sqz% 4.5
Agg 2.24
Agg% 25.1
Flop cbet% 46.9
Fold vs flop cbet 67.1
River call win% 33.9


Tbh ise seda agro % värki ei jaga näiteks. oskab keegi öelda, mis leake vm on?

pikk28
30.07.10, 07:21
tundub, et sa 3betid ise vähe, aga callid palju. aggro võiks ka suurem olla ehk panusta rohke ja c/c vähem. proovi vahel ka c/r teha.
cbetid ikka väga vähe. cbeti K ja A high floppe + kuivasid floppe jne.
riveri call win% on ka väga nadi. vali rohkem käsi millega callid riveri beti või parem veel - beti ise riverit rohkem, mitte ära c/c.

Tigrano
30.07.10, 09:05
Ma soovitan table selectida seal ja isegi nitim olla, sest seal on nii palju donke ja agrosi regulare, kes kõik callivad maha ja kinni maksava ehk saad tugeva rangega mängida rahaulikult ja ei pea tihti oma ajurakke vaevama, kui endal nõrk kikker või tihti oop.

Mul oli toweris mingi 100$ ning mõtlesin mitte deopoda ja mängisin nutcrakeri ajaks ennast seal nl10 5maxis üles 8-12 lauda korraga alati ja 5k käsi umbes päevas. Seal on megadongid, et vahepeal tõmmati 4 korda järejest aa ära igast pasaga aga selline see 5max seal on.


http://pokkeriprod.com/tigrano/pildid/nl10.jpg


http://pokkeriprod.com/tigrano/pildid/nl10s.jpg


Seal toweri nä rolli ikka grindida mega vahva: 100$ oli 317$ mänguga ja boonuseid ka mingi 4-5 tk ehk 80-100$ +nutcraker 400$ ja ongi enamvähem roll olemas nädalaga :biggrin:

fyte
30.07.10, 13:14
Tänud teile mõlemile.
Aga kui palju flop cbet% võiks olla üldse? Ja mis vahemikus need agro näitajad oleksid normis?

0ttt
30.07.10, 13:22
Cbet ehk mingi 70% ja agg. 3-4 aga ära võta neid numbreid surmtõsiselt.

fyte
30.07.10, 18:18
omfggg
üritan A-game'i teha, aga no tra ei saa ju kui niimoodi tehakse suckoute pidevalt. mingi 4h sessiga -5bi.


ofc tuleb runner maja ju.. flopis ei 4bettinud, kuna tegu oli vpip70 vaalaga ja ei tahtnud, et ta foldiks.

Ongame, $0.05/0.10 Hold'em Cash Games, 5 Players
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Board:
Lensend5 (CO): $10.62
Anorthosara. (Button): $6.84
ascoc (SB): $4.11
cata87_x (BB): $14.39
fyte (UTG): $27.94

Dealt to fyte J:diamond: A:diamond:

Pre-flop:
fyte raises to $.40, (1 folds), Anorthosara. calls $.40, (2 folds)

Flop: ($.95) 4:diamond: K:diamond: 5:diamond: (2 Players)
fyte bets $.50, Anorthosara. raises to $1, fyte calls $.50

Turn: ($2.95) 4:heart: (2 Players)
fyte checks, Anorthosara. bets $2.20, fyte raises to $4.40, Anorthosara. raises to $5.44, fyte calls $1.04

River: ($13.83) 5:spade: (2 Players)

Results:
fyte Showed J:diamond: A:diamond:
Anorthosara. Showed 5:club: 6:heart:
Anorthosara. wins $13.83


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Board:
Jaikke (CO): $10.28
bananamama_x (Button): $10.42
_Dominator17 (SB): $8.90
fyte (BB): $10.78
gmar80 (UTG): $9.03

Dealt to fyte A:club: A:diamond:

Pre-flop:
(2 folds), bananamama_x raises to $.30, (1 folds), fyte raises to $.90, bananamama_x calls $.60

Flop: ($1.95) J:heart: 3:club: J:spade: (2 Players)
fyte bets $1.25, bananamama_x calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.45) 8:diamond: (2 Players)
fyte bets $2.70, bananamama_x calls $2.70

River: ($9.85) 5:diamond: (2 Players)
fyte bets $3.50, bananamama_x raises to $5.57, fyte calls $2.07

Results:
bananamama_x Showed 8:spade: 8:club:
fyte Showed A:club: A:diamond:
bananamama_x wins $20.89


ei ole ju võimalik normaalset winrate'i näidata, kui sellised setupid tulevad üksteise otsa. siukseid käsi oli veel ja veel, ei viitsi uploadida lihtsalt.

:x

Tigrano
30.07.10, 18:24
Jep nii on, et 5maxis kus nii fishine toimub selliseid asju pidevalt :)

0ttt
30.07.10, 20:06
Mitme lauga sa üldse mängid?

fyte
30.07.10, 21:20
Mitme lauga sa üldse mängid?
9 lauda, tile's.

ei oskagi midagi ette võtta, viimased sessid nl10s on pehmelt öeldes masendavad olnud - haiged setupid ja suckoudid, tiltamist eriti olnud ei ole. nl4 ka tagasi minna ei tahaks, hetkel roll 320 kandis. nädal tagasi oli 500..


:/

// panen graafikud ka siis.

nl4 overall - võib rahule jääda, sellel limiidil wr 26bb/100

http://www.upload.ee/image/714676/nl4overall.jpg

nl10 graafik. pehmelt öeldes ajab see graafik südame pahaks. nagu mingi EKG.

http://www.upload.ee/image/714681/nl10overall.jpg

fyte
31.07.10, 01:03
Oleks pidanud foldima?

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Board:
MAMURA1 (Button): $10.38
-LimEs- (SB): $9.21 <-- 36/12
ReallyOo (BB): $10
fyte (CO): $11.19

Dealt to fyte A:diamond: K:club:

Pre-flop:
fyte raises to $.40, (1 folds), -LimEs- calls $.35, (1 folds)

Flop: ($.90) A:heart: 9:spade: 4:spade: (2 Players)
-LimEs- checks, fyte bets $.70, -LimEs- raises to $1.40, fyte calls $.70

Turn: ($3.70) 5:club: (2 Players)
-LimEs- bets $7.41, fyte calls $7.41

River: ($18.52) 4:heart: (2 Players)

Results:
-LimEs- Showed 9:club: A:club:
fyte Showed A:diamond: K:club:
-LimEs- wins $18.52

EestiMats
31.07.10, 01:04
Jah.

raunsz
31.07.10, 01:06
IMO minraise on kõige jubedam asi üldse ja ma pannuks flopis 4bet. Samas donk võib ei tea millega panna, raske otsus. Flipiolukorrad, vahepeal neil set, vahepeal air. ;D

Ma vist foldinuks!

fyte
31.07.10, 01:07
No ma oleks ilmselt siis foldinud, kui ta oleks turnil mingi 2.50 pannud nt.
shove lõhnas aga kuidagi kahtlaselt bluffi järgi.

adam_q
31.07.10, 01:38
pmst kõik käed, peale ühe flushi, said sa top pairiga kotti. oota pigem paremaid käsi, millega all-in minna, eriti veel ilgelt loose laudades, kus suvaline board võib kellegile anda käe, mis su top pairi juba flopis biidib.

fyte
02.08.10, 03:38
Ongame, $0.05/0.10 Hold'em Cash Games, 5 Players
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Board:
qqwweexx (UTG): $2.15
bananamama_x (UTG+1): $16.82
fyte (BB): $12.28
manoplas20 (Button): $9.57
Ospylac52 (SB): $5.19 <- 41/21 fish

Dealt to fyte 4:spade: 2:club:

Pre-flop:
bananamama_x checks, fyte checks, (1 folds), Ospylac52 calls $.05, qqwweexx checks

Flop: ($.20) T:spade: 5:spade: 4:club: (4 Players)
Ospylac52 checks, qqwweexx checks, bananamama_x checks, fyte checks

Turn: ($.20) 4:heart: (4 Players)
Ospylac52 bets $.35, (2 folds), fyte raises to $1.75, Ospylac52 calls $1.40

River: ($3.70) 7:club: (2 Players)
Ospylac52 bets $3.34, Hero ??

Regulari vastu oleks vast easy fold sellises olukorras, aga antud juhul on tema asemel donk.

Pf kohta ärge küsige, kogemata jäi peale sitouti "wait for bigblindi" ette linnuke panemata.
Turnis raise oli nii suur, kuna vastas oli fish, muidu ikka size pisut väiksem.

0ttt
02.08.10, 11:10
Flopis oleks bettinud pot'i. Aga as played meie trips on minuarust way ahead fishi vastu eriti veel arvestades seda, et fish on short. Minuarust tihti on tal Tx, kuid harvemal juhul sai riverisse oma rea kokku.

fyte
02.08.10, 17:19
b]River:[/b] ($3.70) 7:club: (2 Players)
Ospylac52 bets $3.34, fyte calls $3.34

Results:
Ospylac52 Showed 4:diamond: Q:spade:
fyte Showed 4:spade: 2:club:
Ospylac52 wins $10.68

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Siin käes riveris b/f? Või mis variant optimaalne oleks siin, sest selle fishi range's on suht tihti J sees, ma arvan. See põhjendaks ta calli turnil ka openenderiga.

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Board:
raisethatass (CO): $10.81
tdavid888 (Button): $20.98
fyte (SB): $22.66
JAngelC82 (BB): $8.85 <- 62/21 fish
Dealt to fyte A:spade: A:diamond:

Pre-flop:
(2 folds), fyte raises to $.40, JAngelC82 calls $.30

Flop: ($.85) K:heart: 7:spade: Q:club: (2 Players)
fyte bets $.70, JAngelC82 calls $.70

Turn: ($2.25) T:spade: (2 Players)
fyte bets $1.50, JAngelC82 calls $1.50

River: ($5.25) A:club: (2 Players)
Hero ??

0ttt
03.08.10, 10:40
Oma top sett'i fishi vastu never ei foldi. Tal on sellises käes palju 2pair käsi eriti veel, kui A tuli riverisse.

fyte
05.08.10, 23:42
Väike update siis, täna tegin pikemat sorti grindi, kuna tahtsin päeva lõpuks kasumis olla ikkagi. Haiged setupid olid kohati, flush vs flush, FH vs FH jne. + veel mõned korrad tõmmati 3 ja 4 outer ära, kui flopist nupud sees.

http://www.upload.ee/image/725874/5500hands_p2ev.jpg

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Dealt to fyte
K:diamond:K:spade:

Seat 5: river02_x ($3.41) Posts small blind $0.05

Seat 7: fyte ($17.81) Posts big blind $0.10

Seat 9: usempobrau ($9.85)
Seat 10: playermaniac ($9.61) <-- 26/18, 200 käe kohta
Dealt to fyte


Preflop: (Pot: $0.15)
RAISE playermaniac, to $.40
CALL river02_x, $.40
RAISE fyte, to $1.50
FOLD usempobrau
CALL playermaniac, $1.10
FOLD river02_x
Flop: (Pot: $3.55)
2:heart:8:heart:3:heart:

BET fyte, $2
RAISE playermaniac, to $4
Hero ??

fyte
05.08.10, 23:58
Vähemalt rb peaks ka mingi 2,5bi kanti olema.
Igatahes, üks käsi veel - http://www.pokerhand.org/?5602778 (converter ei tööta korralikult). Villain on seal käes 28/14 stattidega. Turnis oleks pidanud sisse bettima või mitte?

fyte
30.08.10, 01:25
OnGame No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - OnGame (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($10.05)
BB ($9.60)
UTG ($9.15)
MP ($9.21) - igasugune info puudub, oli just lauda tulnud.
Hero ($14.14)

Hero is BTN with 5:spade:, A:spade:

Preflop:
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.15) A:diamond:, 5:club:, Q:heart: (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.70, 1 fold, MP calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.55) 4:heart: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75

River: ($6.05) 2:club: (2 players)
MP bets $6.46 (All-In), Hero ?

ses suhtes kui ta oleks pre ise tõstnud, siis oleks easy call, aga kuna ta limpcallis, siis 3x võib vabalt ranges olla.

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oleks tore, kui keegi viitsiks vaadata ülevalpool postitatud käsi ka.

ristik
30.08.10, 02:58
Kõigepealt ülemises käes cbetin veidi rohkem, 1,50 või isegi pott oleks hea, sest sul on seal 3 vastast, saaksid edaspidi kiiremini rahad sisse. Turn on meile sitt, teeksin seal veidi üle poole poti beti ja foldime shovele.


OnGame No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - OnGame (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($10.05)
BB ($9.60)
UTG ($9.15)
MP ($9.21) - igasugune info puudub, oli just lauda tulnud.
Hero ($14.14)

Hero is BTN with 5:spade:, A:spade:

Preflop:
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.15) A:diamond:, 5:club:, Q:heart: (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.70, 1 fold, MP calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.55) 4:heart: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75

River: ($6.05) 2:club: (2 players)
MP bets $6.46 (All-In), Hero ?

ses suhtes kui ta oleks pre ise tõstnud, siis oleks easy call, aga kuna ta limpcallis, siis 3x võib vabalt ranges olla.

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oleks tore, kui keegi viitsiks vaadata ülevalpool postitatud käsi ka.

Esiteks ma ei isoleeriks siin tundmatut A5s(EDIT:Siiski 6maxis ei tohiks see vale olla, ei pannud algul tähele). Kurat mina ei suuda teda 3x peale panna riveril, pigem on siin mingi slowplaytatud monster või hiitis ise ässaga 2 paari, ei imestaks kui AA ette näitab. Callin

lennuk
30.08.10, 09:30
see A5s käe ma foldiks ,ja ilma readita nii suure beti peale bluffi püüdma ei läheks . villaini limp-call võib vabalt olla A3s/o ,55 . nõrka ässa ta ise ei beti aga ei foldi ka.

fyte
30.08.10, 21:40
OnGame No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - OnGame (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($10.05)
BB ($9.60)
UTG ($9.15)
MP ($9.21) - igasugune info puudub, oli just lauda tulnud.
Hero ($14.14)

Hero is BTN with 5:spade:, A:spade:

Preflop:
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.15) A:diamond:, 5:club:, Q:heart: (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.70, 1 fold, MP calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.55) 4:heart: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75

River: ($6.05) 2:club: (2 players)
MP bets $6.46 (All-In), Hero ?

ses suhtes kui ta oleks pre ise tõstnud, siis oleks easy call, aga kuna ta limpcallis, siis 3x võib vabalt ranges olla.




Tegin selle käe jaoks eraldi teema, nii et edasine arutlus võiks seal olla.;)

http://foorum.pokkeriprod.com/showthread.php?t=4760

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Dealt to fyte
K:diamond:K:spade:

Seat 5: river02_x ($3.41) Posts small blind $0.05

Seat 7: fyte ($17.81) Posts big blind $0.10

Seat 9: usempobrau ($9.85)
Seat 10: playermaniac ($9.61) <-- 26/18, 200 käe kohta
Dealt to fyte


Preflop: (Pot: $0.15)
RAISE playermaniac, to $.40
CALL river02_x, $.40
RAISE fyte, to $1.50
FOLD usempobrau
CALL playermaniac, $1.10
FOLD river02_x
Flop: (Pot: $3.55)
2:heart:8:heart:3:heart:

BET fyte, $2
RAISE playermaniac, to $4
Hero ??

easy fold?

Mäksu
30.08.10, 22:04
OnGame No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - OnGame (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($10.05)
BB ($9.60)
UTG ($9.15)
MP ($9.21) - igasugune info puudub, oli just lauda tulnud.
Hero ($14.14)

Hero is BTN with 5:spade:, A:spade:

Preflop:
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.15) A:diamond:, 5:club:, Q:heart: (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.70, 1 fold, MP calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.55) 4:heart: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75

River: ($6.05) 2:club: (2 players)
MP bets $6.46 (All-In), Hero ?

ses suhtes kui ta oleks pre ise tõstnud, siis oleks easy call, aga kuna ta limpcallis, siis 3x võib vabalt ranges olla.

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oleks tore, kui keegi viitsiks vaadata ülevalpool postitatud käsi ka.


Ma foldiks kuna selline bet riveris,maas on pmst rida, donk võis seal selle 3 hittida, ma ei riskiks lihtsalt kui saab kergemini stackida end, kuid see on vaid minu arvamus ongame nl10 põhjal.

fyte
04.09.10, 00:06
kuldsed lauad reede õhtuti.

http://www.upload.ee/image/786063/4bisess.jpg


1.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($10)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($30.85)
Button ($9.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, Button calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, Button raises $4, 1 fold, Hero raises $8.70 (All-In), Button calls $5.15 (All-In)

Turn: ($19.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($19.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $19.50

Results:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (high card, Ace).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $18.98

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2.
puhtalt readi pealt call. :) riveris insta bettis 4$ mu checki peale.

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SB ($14.88)
BB ($7.75)
Hero (UTG) ($22.66)
Button ($12)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
BB calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.30) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, Button calls $0.80, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.90) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, Button calls $1.25

River: ($5.40) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4.05, Hero calls $4.05

Total pot: $13.50

Results:
Button had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, tens and eights).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, tens and eights).
Outcome: Hero won $12.83

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3.
aga samas variatsioon ei kao kuhugi. :P

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SB ($10.65)
BB ($14.30)
UTG ($7.31)
MP ($19.85)
Hero (Button) ($10.64)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.75) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $7.01 (All-In), Hero calls $7.01

Turn: ($14.77) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.77) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.77

Results:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Queens and nines).
UTG had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: UTG won $14.04

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4.
ja siis veel mitmed sellised olukorrad, kus retardid lihtsalt ära luckivad. 70/11 vaalaga oli tegu, cbetimine oleks mõttetu olnud kuna calliks insta mingi 3nda paariga maha.

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SB ($7.18)
Hero (BB) ($10.05)
UTG ($9.34)
MP ($9.85)
Button ($17.63)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
2 folds, Button bets $0.25, SB calls $0.20, Hero raises $0.90, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.25) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.25) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($5.25) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Total pot: $9.25

Results:
SB had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Jacks and sevens).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: SB won $8.79


5. See nüüd ilmselt valesti mängitud käsi, turnis bettisin 1/2 potti, kuna 2 vastase vastu ei tahaks TPGK päris broke ka minna.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($33.72) - 55/3 fish (70 kätt)
BB ($5.61)
Hero (UTG) ($27.76)
MP ($12.78)
Button ($10) - 20/5 (100+ kätt)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
Hero bets $0.35, 1 fold, Button calls $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, Button calls $0.80, BB calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, Button calls $1.75, 1 fold

River: ($7) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, Button raises $5, Hero folds

Total pot: $10

Results:
Button didn't show
Outcome: Button won $13


Ette tänades, kes kommenteerida neid käsi viitsib.

fyte
06.09.10, 15:51
bump

Ette tänades, kes kommenteerida neid käsi viitsib.

pikk28
07.09.10, 12:28
raske kommenteerida, kui vastaste kohta mingit infi ei anna.

inward
07.09.10, 12:58
Misasja, mis vennad seal koos on :D


5. Käsi on päris huvitav. Kas siin turnis check-call poleks mõtekam. Noh samas kui panna keegi neist draw peale või kehvem 2pair, siis bet oleks õige turnis ja riveris checkcalliks. . Btn on muidu tight sp riveris vist polekski bettinud. Tra samas ei tea ka. Keegi targem võiks siin nõu anda küll.

fyte
09.09.10, 13:52
1. Flopi call oli misclick tegelikult, harilikult pannakse mingi 20c ja siis callin flopil tavaliselt maha siukses olukorras. Kuna limppot, siis pmst iga teine 4x biidib hero kätt.

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SB ($9.27)
Hero (BB) ($23.10)
UTG ($10.93)
MP ($13.77)
Button ($12.63) 81/37 fish (30 kätt)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
2 folds, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.25) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.05) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.05, Hero raises $2.50, Button raises $3.95 Hero ??

2. Easy fold? Pmst ainult flush biidib nende 2 paari vastu

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SB ($11.15) 22/17 reg
BB ($13.17)
Hero (UTG) ($14.91)
MP ($13.67)
Button ($4.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
Hero bets $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.30, Hero raises $0.80, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.10) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25

River: ($4.60) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.25, SB raises $8.90 (All-In) Hero ?


ja siis selline idiootne käsi veel:

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Hero (SB) ($18.56)
BB ($0.20)
UTG ($15.16)
MP ($17.90)
Button ($9.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.10, MP bets $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises $1.45, BB calls $0.10 (All-In), 1 fold, MP calls $1

Flop: ($3.30) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $2.25, MP raises $6, Hero raises $14.81 (All-In), MP calls $10.40 (All-In)

Turn: ($36.10) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($36.10) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $36.10

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Kings and fours).
MP had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (full house, Queens over fours).
Outcome: MP won $34.60

Pmst nii deep stackiga suutsin tiltis olles kaotada veel 1,7bi, flopis enne shove mõtlesin aint seda, et millist muud floppi ma siis saada lootsin kui mitte Axx või Kxx. :S

fyte
11.09.10, 01:32
1. Minraise peab meeldima;)

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SB ($9.80)
BB ($3.10)
Hero (UTG) ($18.19)
MP ($3.26)
Button ($11.41)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, Button raises $0.50, SB calls $0.45, BB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($2) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, Button raises $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.60 (All-In), Hero raises $16.19 (All-In), Button calls $7.41 (All-In)

Turn: ($26.42) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($26.42) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $26.42

Results:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
BB had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, sixes and fives).
Hero had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Outcome: Hero won $31.88




2. lol

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SB ($10.65)
BB ($11.59)
Hero (UTG) ($10.27)
MP ($10)
Button ($9.91)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
Hero bets $0.40, 3 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $0.85, Hero raises $2.50, BB calls $1.65

Turn: ($5.85) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $8.69 (All-In), Hero calls $7.37 (All-In)

River: ($20.59) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.59

Results:
BB had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, fives).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $19.57




3. No-Limit Hold'em, $0.00 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($21.10)
BB ($9.85)
UTG ($8.13)
Button ($15.74)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
BB bets $0.40, UTG calls $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.25, Hero raises $1.15, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.50) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, UTG calls $2.50

River: ($8.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.90, UTG calls $2.90

Total pot: $14.30

Results:
Hero had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (four of a kind, threes).
UTG didn't show <- K5 oli tal
Outcome: Hero won $13.59




4. Suckoute jagus ka, kokku sessi jooksul vast 4-5x tõmmati ära.

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SB ($13.92)
BB ($3.03)
UTG ($5.79)
Hero (MP) ($31.36)
Button ($10.51)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.80, 1 fold, UTG raises $5.39 (All-In), Hero calls $4.59

Turn: ($12.03) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($12.03) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $12.03

Results:
UTG had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (flush, King high).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: UTG won $11.43

fyte
19.09.10, 00:12
Mõnusad lauad olid praegu.

http://www.upload.ee/image/815366/kuldsedlauadlol.jpg


1. UTG raise oli misclick, 4bb panen tavaliselt seal. Mis hero calling range on?

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SB ($16.61)
BB ($11.41)
Hero (UTG) ($15.89)
MP ($6.07) - inf puudub
Button ($4.67)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
Hero bets $0.25, MP raises $6.07 (All-In), 3 folds, Hero ???


2. Kuidas siin käes hero liin on? Enda arust mängisin suht hästi selle, sest turnis eriti halvem käsi ei calli, v.a J:spade: võibolla. Riveris lihtsalt reppisin seda, et board mängib.

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Hero (SB) ($14.60)
BB ($13.57)
UTG ($8.09)
MP ($9.71) - 37/16 (20kätt)
Button ($4.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.45, BB calls $0.40, 1 fold, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $1, 1 fold, MP calls $1

Turn: ($3.60) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3.60, Hero calls $3.60

River: ($10.80) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $9.50 (All-In), MP calls $4.61 (All-In)

Total pot: $20.02

raunsz
19.09.10, 00:53
Miks sa resultse ei pane? :P

fyte
19.09.10, 11:06
Miks sa resultse ei pane? :P
Et ei oleks results-oriented ja ütleks, kuidas mängisin toda kätt.

fyte
22.09.10, 21:27
Rekordsess -9bi,

betsized vigased converteri tõttu.

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SB ($13.87)
BB ($10.05)
UTG ($13.16)
Hero (MP) ($14.01)
Button ($3.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.25, 3 folds, UTG raises $3.10, Hero raises $4.50, UTG raises $9.66 (All-In), Hero calls $7.41

Flop: ($26.47) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($26.47) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($26.47) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $26.47

Results:
UTG had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: UTG won $25.15


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SB ($10.10)
BB ($10)
UTG ($8.01)
MP ($10.11)
Hero (Button) ($10.97)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, MP bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($1) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $0.75, Hero raises $1.50, SB raises $2.25, 1 fold, Hero raises $9.17 (All-In), SB calls $7.55 (All-In)

Turn: ($21.35) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($21.35) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $21.35

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (flush, Ace high).
SB had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (full house, sevens over Jacks).
Outcome: SB won $20.29



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AA ofc ei 4beti ju.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($10.21)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($11.26)
MP ($5.47)
Button ($8.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
2 folds, Button calls $0.10, SB bets $0.45, Hero raises $1.65, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.60) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.90, SB calls $1.90

Turn: ($7.40) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.70, SB calls $2.70

River: ($12.80) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $3.86 (All-In), Hero calls $3.65 (All-In)

Total pot: $20.10

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (full house, Aces over nines).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: SB won $19.31


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Ja see siin mu vaieldamatu lemmikkäsi:


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($15.36)
BB ($7)
UTG ($11.64)
MP ($9.12)
Hero (Button) ($9.84)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.30) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB calls $0.80, UTG calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.70) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.70, SB calls $2.70, 1 fold

River: ($9.10) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $6, Hero calls $5.94 (All-In)

Total pot: $20.98

Results:
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, tens).
SB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: SB won $20



SKILLGAME indeed

fyte
22.09.10, 21:32
masendav pask :/

http://www.upload.ee/image/822644/LUCKERADFASDASD.jpg

fyte
23.09.10, 00:58
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($15.36)
BB ($7)
UTG ($11.64)
MP ($9.12)
Hero (Button) ($9.84)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.30) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB calls $0.80, UTG calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.70) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.70, SB calls $2.70, 1 fold

River: ($9.10) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $6, Hero calls $5.94 (All-In)

Total pot: $20.98

Results:
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, tens).
SB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: SB won $20


vol2:

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($10.92)
BB ($10.64)
UTG ($6.14)
MP ($7.81)
Button ($14.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.30) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks

Turn: ($1.30) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1, Button calls $1

River: ($4.30) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $3.45, 1 fold, Button raises $12.85 (All-In), Hero calls $6.07 (All-In)

Total pot: $23.34

Results:
Button had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (straight, Queen high).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $25.51



Runner read ja asjad tulevad donkidele tihemini kokku kui mulle OESD.

fyte
24.09.10, 18:50
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($6.94)
BB ($40.46)
UTG ($11.01)
MP ($6.97)
Hero (Button) ($22.48)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, MP bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.15) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
SB bets $1, MP calls $1, [color=#666666]Hero ?

Kui oleks HU pot, siis oleks kindlalt fold liiga nõrk, aga kuidas siis jätkata kui 2 vastast ees?

raunsz
24.09.10, 19:01
Minu arust päris easy fold. Muidugi kui võita tahad potti, pead non sd maha võtma selle. E

fyte
27.09.10, 22:26
Tegin vist suht nitise foldi, ehk oskavad targemad kommenteerida siin seda kätt.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Party-Poker (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($21.21)
Hero (BB) ($25.21)
UTG ($14.89)
MP ($17.14) - 51/36 donk
Button ($9.85) 32/14 (1k käe peale). Fold to cbet 3bet pottides 67% ja tavalistes 55%

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, MP bets $0.35, Button calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero raises $1.40, MP calls $1.05, Button calls $1.05

Flop: ($4.25) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $2.15, 1 fold, Button calls $2.15

Turn: ($8.55) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3.50, Hero folds

Total pot: $8.55

Results:
Button didn't show
Outcome: Button won $11.63


Pmst minu arust ta läks preflop setmine'ma, kuna donk callis samuti mu 3beti. 3way potis sellisel boardil ei biidi ju midagi ma enam sellise suht-koht passiivse vastase vastu? KK-QQ oleks vast pre nuppe pannud ja AJ oleks ta foldinud. Alles jäävadki teised pocketpairid.


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For fun üks käsi dongi vastu, kellele tundus, et oli juba liiga diibiks oma stacki lauas saanud.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($15.84)
BB ($5.94)
UTG ($23.16)
Hero (MP) ($10.35)
Button ($24.68)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.35, Button calls $0.35, 1 fold, BB raises $5.84 (All-In), Hero raises $10 (All-In), Button calls $10

Flop: ($26.69) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($26.69) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($26.69) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $26.69

Results:
Button had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Kings and eights).
BB had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Kings and fives).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $25.36

bi0hazard
27.09.10, 23:25
Esimeses käes paneks turnil veel ja reraisele foldiks, kui BTN callib, siis river chk-call.( kui ei tule just mingi jaak või ärtu maha )

pikk28
28.09.10, 07:39
no mismoodi saad turni b/f 3 bet potis. hull oled vä?
ma paneks flopis niipalju, et turnis saaksin kenasti shoveda

fyte
28.09.10, 22:05
No tagantjärele saan aru jah, et mängisin valesti. Aga ses suhtes lihtsalt olin tema vastu omajagu jaotusi mänginud ja ta tundus kergesti flopil alla andvat üldiselt ning tol hetkel ei tulnud pähe muud, kui see et callis PPga 3beti ning hittis.

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Anyway, kuidas see käsi mängitud?

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SB ($8.97)
BB ($12.84)
UTG ($13.93) 31/20, cbet 55%
MP ($9.85)
Hero (Button) ($9.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.10, Hero raises $0.80, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.85) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.45, UTG calls $1.45

River: ($5.75) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Total pot: $5.95

fyte
30.09.10, 20:53
September kokkuvõttes ca 320$, graph ise siuke:

http://www.upload.ee/image/837152/september.jpg

EV joon sai kuu lõpu poole ka kenasti "kinni püütud." ;) Aga jah, oleks võinud need paar swingi olemata olla. :P

Tigrano
30.09.10, 20:59
Tubli töö fyte, näha et tahtmine on suur ja tulemused hakkavad vaikselt vilja kandma.

fyte
05.10.10, 21:08
Tänud.

Igatahes viimastel päevadel vaikselt nl20s shotte võtnud ja üsnagi edukalt.

Praeguses sessis oli üks naljakas käsi, kuna multitablen, siis riveril tunduski silmanurgast vaadates, et nuts käes, imestus oli aga alguses suur kui shodownil pot dongile läks :D

Vb turni call oli küsitav, aga implied oddsid olid samas täitsa olemas ja mul oli 14 outi kätt improveda.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($17.09)
Hero (BB) ($19.90)
UTG ($25.38)
MP ($19.70)
Button ($18.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG bets $0.70, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($1.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, UTG raises $2.50, Hero calls $1.70

River: ($6.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4.90, Hero raises $12, UTG raises $14.20, Hero calls $4.70 (All-In)

Total pot: $39.90

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).
UTG had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (straight flush, Queen high).
Outcome: UTG won $40.80



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Järjekordne käsi shortstacker dongi vastu, 1-outer turni peab meeldima. Ei mäletagi, et oleks kunagi nii ära tulnud. :D

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SB ($7.10)
BB ($10.03)
UTG ($19.50)
MP ($4.98)
Hero (Button) ($19.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, MP bets $1, Hero raises $2.70, 2 folds, MP raises $3.98 (All-In), Hero calls $2.28

Flop: ($10.26) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($10.26) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($10.26) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.26

Results:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
MP had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $9.75

fyte
07.10.10, 02:25
tänane sess -6bi siis (nl20s). masendav ..


1. ebanormaalne pask ju, fcking 2% equity, rigged ongame.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($20.55)
BB ($7.49)
Hero (UTG) ($23.41)
Button ($72.17) - 3bet 12% vms

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Hero bets $0.70, Button raises $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises $22.71 (All-In), Button calls $20.91

Flop: ($47.12) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($47.12) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($47.12) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $47.12

Results:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, King high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Button won $45.62

2. standard ongame.. mida see lammas biitida oma QQga mõtles, huvitav? läks suckoudi peale välja ja kohe turnis tuli ära ka.

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Hero (SB) ($21.35)
BB ($30.61)
UTG ($28.91)
MP ($19.65)
Button ($19.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
2 folds, Button calls $0.20, Hero bets $0.70, 1 fold, Button raises $1.20, Hero raises $3.20, Button calls $2.60

Flop: ($8.20) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button raises $10, Hero raises $12.35 (All-In), Button calls $5.70 (All-In)

Turn: ($39.60) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($39.60) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $39.60

Results:
Button had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Button won $38.10


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SB ($53.54)
BB ($20.70)
Hero (UTG) ($31.42)
MP ($5.20)
Button ($13.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Hero bets $0.40, MP raises $0.80, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.90) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.25, Hero raises $2.50, MP raises $2.50, Hero raises $8.30, MP calls $0.65 (All-In)

Turn: ($10.70) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($10.70) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.70

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (straight, five high).
MP had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: MP won $10.17

4. Kuidas sellise runiga saab profitit näidata? -.-
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($19.80)
Hero (BB) ($20.30)
UTG ($20.52)
MP ($6.02)
Button ($27.13)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
3 folds, SB bets $0.70, Hero raises $2.30, SB calls $1.70

Flop: ($5) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $3.80, Hero raises $8, SB calls $4.20

River: ($21) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $21

Results:
SB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (straight, Ace high).
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: SB won $19.95

fyte
07.10.10, 14:34
üks rigged setup teise otsa... peab tagasi madalamasse limiiti minema, GG. fml

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($20.14)
BB ($16.86)
UTG ($26.87)
Button ($22.57)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG bets $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.10) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1.25, Hero raises $3.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.25

Turn: ($9.10) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6, UTG raises $20, Hero calls $9.94 (All-In)

River: ($40.98) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $40.98

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Queens and twos).
UTG had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: UTG won $43.54

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($33.95)
BB ($17.24)
Hero (UTG) ($22.15)
MP ($25.70)
Button ($17.98)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
Hero bets $0.60, MP calls $0.60, Button calls $0.60, SB calls $0.50, BB raises $0.80, Hero raises $2.10, 3 folds, BB calls $1.70

Flop: ($7.20) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($15.20) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $10.54 (All-In), Hero calls $10.54

River: ($36.28) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $36.28

Results:
BB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: BB won $34.78

Tigrano
07.10.10, 14:35
Kuidas nl20 läheb üldse? Peale tänase sessi -6bi

fyte
07.10.10, 14:39
Kuidas nl20 läheb üldse? Peale tänase sessi -6bi
http://www.upload.ee/image/849053/masendavpasknl20.jpg

paar bi tildi nahka ka läinud, mingi 15% 3bet tüüpide vastu aeg-ajalt 4bettinud mingi marginal handiga ja siis neil just sel hetkel on premium varrukast võtta.

fyte
09.10.10, 00:07
Vaikselt taastun nl10s, alguses oli langus tänu sellele, et ei suutnud flopil reraisele TPTK maha panna kusagil 45/35 stattidega dongi vastu ja neil oli kõik korrad set.
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8041/taastuminexnl10.jpg

1. No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($9.35)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($5.62)
MP ($13.30) 41/36 donk (50+ käe peale)
Button ($10.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, MP bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.45, Hero raises $1.35, MP raises $3.65, Hero raises $8.35 (All-In), MP calls $5.60

Turn: ($20.05) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.05) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.05

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Queens and sixes).
MP had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (full house, tens over sixes).
Outcome: MP won $19.05

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2. No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($14.88) 91/26 vaal (200+ (!) käe peale)
BB ($14.48)
UTG ($9.20)
MP ($7.43)
Hero (Button) ($11.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises $1, SB calls $0.95, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.30, SB calls $1.30

Turn: ($5.20) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $5.20, Hero raises $9.15 (All-In), SB calls $3.95

River: ($23.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $23.50

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Kings).
SB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: SB won $22.33



3. Näited kuidas dongid ei oska premiume pf mängida, üks flatib AA ja teine teeb oma minraise, andes oddsid callimiseks preflop. ;)
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($9.95)
BB ($4.50)
UTG ($4.90)
Hero (MP) ($15.91)
Button ($7.03)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, Button raises $0.90, 1 fold, BB calls $0.80, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.85) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
BB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, Button raises $2.45, BB calls $2.05, Hero raises $4.10, Button raises $3.68 (All-In), BB calls $1.15 (All-In), Hero calls $1.63

Turn: ($18.71) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($18.71) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $18.71

Results:
Button had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Kings and tens).
BB had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, tens and fives).
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero won $17.78

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($9.73)
BB ($10.74)
UTG ($10.34)
Hero (MP) ($32.53)
Button ($9.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.45, BB raises $1.75, Hero calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.35) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $3.25, Hero raises $30.38 (All-In), BB calls $5.34 (All-In)

River: ($21.53) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $21.53

Results:
BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Aces).
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Jacks and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $22.25

lennuk
09.10.10, 12:09
1s käes peale villaini reraise flopil ma arvan et ma enamustel kordadel leiaks foldi , setist oled taga ,2paari oled taga +huvitav board igasuguste combodrawde jaoks et see Q paa seal ei tundu kõige tugevam.
2s käes oleks hea agrofrequencyt vaadata ,vaal küll aga kui tihti need vaalad sul pot-betivad ,iseenesest TP on seal tihti hea aga see beti suurus natuke hirmutab ,ise oleks vast ka bustoks läinud.

ilus graafik
palju laudu tavaliselt mängid ja sessid sul pigem pikad või lühikesed ? arvan et see nl20 tuleb ka varsti.
nii huvipärast et kas oleks võimalik su sesse sweatida mõnikord ? PM kui midagi võimalik

inward
09.10.10, 12:41
Viska oma nl10 graph ka üles ongames.

fyte
10.10.10, 02:01
ilus graafik
palju laudu tavaliselt mängid ja sessid sul pigem pikad või lühikesed ? arvan et see nl20 tuleb ka varsti.
nii huvipärast et kas oleks võimalik su sesse sweatida mõnikord ? PM kui midagi võimalik
6-9 lauda üldiselt, sess läheb tavaliselt pikaks siis, kui olen kaotanud buyine ja tahan sellele vaatamata sessiooni lõpuks korralikkult plussi jääda. Kui kohe alguses on hiiter, nii et näiteks poole tunniga on +4bi, siis tihti lõpetangi ära.
Ikka oleks võimalik, kui tahad vaadata.

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Muidu mainiks ära, et suured tänud Tigranole, kes on jaganud häid tippe ning aidanud HUDi korralikult ära seadistada, tänu sellele on kindlasti mäng paranenud oluliselt.
Täna päeval mingi paaritunnise sessiga oli tulemus kõigest kesine +1bi - set vs set, seejärel flopist nupud sisse ja villainile 3-outer riverisse jms lollid käed. Eriti häiris see, kuidas üks regulari stattidega tüüp mängis oma AQd, pmst ma UTGlt AKga tõstan, ta 3betib BTNilt (3bet 7%), ma lükkan tuimalt allini, kuna ei taha OOP mängida ja siis vend INSTAcallib, mingi 0,1sekiga ja näitab AQo.. river Q ning 250bb pot tema oma.

Muidu täna käisin laivi mängimas, mingi 17 osalejat ja jäin 3ndaks ning vahepeal oli paar kätt, mille kohta sooviks arvamusi.

1. AVG stack oli ca 16k, blindid 600/1200, minu stack 22k ja 6 mängijat alles (4tk rahadesse) ja viimase 1-2h jooksul oli olnud totaalne kaardisurm, ehk siis image oli äärmiselt tight. Seega lõpuks siis tuli kätte PP UTG'lt - 22, ja otsustasin tuimalt shoveda, kuna big blindil oli stackleader, kes oleks suure tõenäosusega lihtsalt callinud standard raise, kuid 2/3 oma stacki sisse ei pane ilma korraliku käeta / mõni shortstacker oleks minu raise peale shovenud. Eeldasin et calli saan suure stackiga mängijatelt (2tk) TT+ / AK (äärmisel juhul ka AQ), niisiis üks shortstacker otsustas callida 5k 88'ga ja mulle tuli 2-outer ära ning siis paar mängijat ütlesid, et äärmiselt donk-move oli seda niimoodi mängida.

2. Teine käsi imo suht standard, 4-käeline mäng (kõik rahades), stack 25k, blindid endiselt 600/1200 ja BTNilt üsnagi tight ja solid mängija shoveb 10k ning otsustasin big blindil callida ATo, mingit erilist infot rohkem polnud ta kohta. Kas sellise stacki ja blindide juures on ok callida?


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Viska oma nl10 graph ka üles ongames.

Millalgi lähiajal panen, muidu pmst esimesed ca 40k kätt vms oli BE lihtsalt, ei suutnud eriti ohjeldada end kui tiltis olin ja siis pmst swingid tulid üsnagi suured.

nomerlot
10.10.10, 08:14
kas AK-ga PF broke minemine on 5maxis sinu jaoks standard? Oled eraldi välja ka võtnud, kas on kasumlik?
Küsin, sest ise ilma erilise readita OOP pigem foldin kui shoven. BvB ja shortide vastu on shovemine jah teine teema.

fyte
10.10.10, 15:25
kas AK-ga PF broke minemine on 5maxis sinu jaoks standard? Oled eraldi välja ka võtnud, kas on kasumlik?
Küsin, sest ise ilma erilise readita OOP pigem foldin kui shoven. BvB ja shortide vastu on shovemine jah teine teema.
Vaatasin HEMist just, ning tulemus on pmst breakeven, mis on ka üsnagi oodatav tegelikult. Aga üldiselt üle keskmise 3bet% vendade vastu 5maxis AK'd eriti preflop ei foldi küll.

fyte
10.10.10, 22:41
http://www.upload.ee/image/855391/3p2eva.jpg

Viimased 3 päeva siis, tänane jooks väga masendav - üks cooler teise otsa, kõik flipid valele poole jm standard pask. Aga noh, vähemalt on asi plusspoolel.

fyte
11.10.10, 18:42
Suht raske call oli, kuna vahepeal kahtlustasin, et ehk oli tal ka riveriks 2 paari juba, aga siis mõtlesin et ta oleks blocking betti callinud ikka pigem sellega ja A9 oleks ka suht kahtlane olnud. Ehk siis sisuliselt jäigi alles 9x FD'ga, aga pot oli riveriks juba nii suur. Kuidas hero liin siin käes on?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($10.54)
Hero (BB) ($20.04)
UTG ($13.17) 24/16 LAG, cbet 52% (300 kätt)
MP ($10.72)
Button ($19.32)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG bets $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero raises $2, UTG calls $1.50

Turn: ($4.65) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

River: ($10.65) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1, UTG raises $7.87 (All-In), Hero calls $6.87

Total pot: $26.39

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and fives).
UTG had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $25.08


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Muidu täna käisin laivi mängimas, mingi 17 osalejat ja jäin 3ndaks ning vahepeal oli paar kätt, mille kohta sooviks arvamusi.

1. AVG stack oli ca 16k, blindid 600/1200, minu stack 22k ja 6 mängijat alles (4tk rahadesse) ja viimase 1-2h jooksul oli olnud totaalne kaardisurm, ehk siis image oli äärmiselt tight. Seega lõpuks siis tuli kätte PP UTG'lt - 22, ja otsustasin tuimalt shoveda, kuna big blindil oli stackleader, kes oleks suure tõenäosusega lihtsalt callinud standard raise, kuid 2/3 oma stacki sisse ei pane ilma korraliku käeta / mõni shortstacker oleks minu raise peale shovenud. Eeldasin et calli saan suure stackiga mängijatelt (2tk) TT+ / AK (äärmisel juhul ka AQ), niisiis üks shortstacker otsustas callida 5k 88'ga ja mulle tuli 2-outer ära ning siis paar mängijat ütlesid, et äärmiselt donk-move oli seda niimoodi mängida.

2. Teine käsi imo suht standard, 4-käeline mäng (kõik rahades), stack 25k, blindid endiselt 600/1200 ja BTNilt üsnagi tight ja solid mängija shoveb 10k ning otsustasin big blindil callida ATo, mingit erilist infot rohkem polnud ta kohta. Kas sellise stacki ja blindide juures on ok callida?

inward
11.10.10, 18:59
1.käsi. Utg shove ja arvestades sinu table imagot näitab küll väga tugevat kätt, kuid sa peadki arvestama, et ss callivad vabalt med pp või ülekaartidega sind maha. Nii et see on väga kindel fold!!!!

2. AT ma viskaks ka mucki jälle. Sa kas flippad või oled väga taga tema vastu. Mõnikord tõesti vb Kx seal. Seevastu AT'ga ise buttonilt shove'ks küll tema asemel ntx.
e: Hmm samas selle regi vastu ta shove range on küllaltki lai, aga ma siiski foldiks.


Kus mängimas käisid muidu ? :D

fyte
11.10.10, 19:08
1. käe kohta siis - kuna blainde oli mul alla 20ne vaatamata sellele, et üle AVG, siis kuidagi ju vaja ikkagi juurde ka saada ja ses suhtes see tõenäosus, et kahel mängijal 5st on JJ(TT)+ käes, on ju ülimalt väike. BTNilt ei saanudki ise stealida üldse eriti, sest vasakul käel olid SSid ning tavaliselt oli pot juba avatud.

Suht regulaarselt toimub enamvähem sama seltskonnaga pela, seekord toimus kuskil Linnu tee kandis, tavaliselt pelgulinnas. bi sümboolne 100.-


Eino sind võidakse vabalt callida maha 66+ ja alates QJ broadway kaardid. Variante on palju, ma ei shove'ks seal kindlasti.
Fullstack ei calli pmst never tighti image'ga mängijat bubblegame's ära mingi QJga. AK/AQ oleks enamvähem loogilised ning nende vastu ju flippame. Kui short callib mingi kahe ülekaardiga ära, siis olgu nii - dead money blindide näol ka veel potis ning longrunnis +EV ju.

inward
11.10.10, 19:10
Eino sind võidakse vabalt callida maha 66+ ja alates QJ broadway kaardid. Variante on palju, ma ei shove'ks seal kindlasti.

KristjanRawk
11.10.10, 19:12
üks rigged setup teise otsa... peab tagasi madalamasse limiiti minema, GG. fml

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($20.14)
BB ($16.86)
UTG ($26.87)
Button ($22.57)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG bets $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.10) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1.25, Hero raises $3.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.25

Turn: ($9.10) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6, UTG raises $20, Hero calls $9.94 (All-In)

River: ($40.98) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $40.98

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Queens and twos).
UTG had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: UTG won $43.54

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vana käsi küll aga alati mono boardil raise saad, siis reevaluate oma käsi ning mina näeks siin foldi

ignoori eelmist lauset, nägin alles nüüd et sul nutflushdraw ka ;)

oohoh
11.10.10, 20:10
1. käe kohta siis - kuna blainde oli mul alla 20ne vaatamata sellele, et üle AVG, siis kuidagi ju vaja ikkagi juurde ka saada...
20bb utg shove on küll ikka väga huvitav variant juurdesaamiseks, ei tahaks nagu väga uskuda, et see on kõige lihtsam ja kindlam variant

fyte
14.10.10, 16:47
Tegin vist üsnagi nitise foldi multiway 3bet potis, üsnagi deepstackidega.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($15.14)
BB ($12.09) - 12/10 nit oli, aga sample kõigest 50 kätt.
UTG ($4.10)
MP ($9.30)
Button ($13.30) - 20/16 tag, flop agg 3.1 (300+ kätt)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
2 folds, Button bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.20, BB calls $1.15, Button calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.75) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $2.70, BB calls $2.70, Button raises $12.05 (All-In), [color=#666666][i]Hero ???

fyte
30.10.10, 01:31
Olen siis vaikselt nl20 shotte võtnud, eile paari sessiga pmst BE ja täna +2,5bi, jooksin praegu veits üle EV ka - flip tuli õigele poole ning AA pidas 2x vastu. Regid callivad imelikult lightilt 5bet shovesid maha.. Nt 1x 4bettis JJ mind ja kui shovesin AAga siis insta call, ning teinekord 4betshovesin AKga tuimalt ühe venna vastu, kelle BTNi 3bet% oli 10 kandis ja ta insta callis TTga. lol..

http://www.upload.ee/image/893007/swongine20nl1k.jpg


Igatahes paar kätt ka, mis vajaksid üle vaatamist.

1. Ei suutnud riveril foldi eriti leida, kuigi suht teadsin, et enamus kordadest olen siin taga.

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Hero (SB) ($32.30)
BB ($55.34)
UTG ($20.72) - 50/8 fish (40 kätt)
Button ($53.97)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.20, Button calls $0.20, Hero bets $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.80, Button calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2, 1 fold

Turn: ($7.20) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, UTG calls $5

River: ($17.20) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1, UTG raises $12.72 (All-In), Hero calls $11.72

Total pot: $42.64

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and nines).
UTG had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: UTG won $41.14


2. Üüratu vpip ja pfr vahe järgi on tal kõik 2pair käed ranges - KT, KJ, JT ning vb lisaks AQ'le ka Q9 vb, seega fold peaks suht õige olema?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($28.33)
BB ($20.30) 27/14, flopi agg kõigest 1.1 (130 kätt)
UTG ($18.11)
MP ($8.48)
Button ($11.29)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.20, Button calls $0.20, Hero bets $0.90, BB calls $0.80, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.40) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BB raises $4, Hero calls $2.25

Turn: ($10.40) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero folds

Total pot: $10.40

Results:
BB didn't show
Outcome: BB won $14.88

fyte
30.10.10, 19:06
Praegu oli normal sess, pmst esimesed ca 800 kätt BE ja siis viimase 100 käega +3bi, peab meeldima.


1. Lol, suht raske call oli, aga ega fish midagi eriti ei reppinud küll.

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SB ($19.50)
BB ($19.60)
UTG ($22.95)
Hero (Button) ($38.34)
Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.80) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.75, UTG calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.30) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

River: ($12.30) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $12.30, Hero calls $12.30

Total pot: $36.90

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and fives).
UTG had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and fives).
Outcome: Hero won $35.40

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2. "Why you should 3bet AK preflop"
lol, valdav osa siinsetest regularidest ikka sakivad mõnusalt. :)

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($19.62)
BB ($19.89)
UTG ($11.60)
MP ($39.51)
Hero (Button) ($29.34)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1, SB raises $2.80, 1 fold, Hero raises $6, SB calls $3.20

Turn: ($13.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13.50, SB calls $13.12 (All-In)

River: ($39.74) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $39.74

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Kings and fives).
SB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $38.24

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3. Muigama võttis veits. Vastas oli hüdrovaal pmst, flopi call oli nicer tal oma 2 oudiga :)

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SB ($23.45)
BB ($20.80)
UTG ($10.88)
Hero (MP) ($20)
Button ($20.87)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG calls $0.20, Hero bets $0.80, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1.30, Hero raises $3.70, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.40

Turn: ($9.90) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $9.90, UTG calls $6.38 (All-In)

River: ($22.66) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $22.66

Results:
UTG had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, Aces).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: UTG won $21.53

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4. Sessi lõpus üks maasikas. Kõige naljakam oli see, et call oli misclick, tahtsin esialgu tundmatu mängija vastu mucki selle käe visata.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($19.40)
BB ($20)
UTG ($4.65)
Hero (MP) ($55.44)
Button ($19.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.70, 2 folds, BB raises $2.30, Hero calls $1.80

Flop: ($5.10) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($12.10) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

River: ($27.10) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $6.50 (All-In), Hero calls $6.50

Total pot: $40.10

Results:
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (four of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero won $38.60

fyte
31.10.10, 18:25
http://www.upload.ee/image/895067/oktoobernl1020.jpg

Kuna mõningad donkamised olid PLOs ja turbo SNGdes siis kuu jäi üldkokkuvõttes (koos rb'ga) ca +530$, millega võib üsnagi rahule jääda.


btw - oleks tore kui keegi viitsiks selle lk esimeses postis olevaid käsi kommenteerida :rolleyes:

pikk28
31.10.10, 19:31
1 käsi betiks igal tänaval rohkem. river ez call, kuna kaart pmst täiesti blank
2 käsi kui blindidel ultranitid just pole, siis foldiks pre K5o. muidu jälle betiks flopis rohkem ja reraisi paneks ka suurema.
3 käsi raiseks jälle rohkem
4 käsi no comments needed
nice hands muidu
a ja äkki kommentaarin üldse valesid käsi

fyte
31.10.10, 19:37
1 käsi betiks igal tänaval rohkem. river ez call, kuna kaart pmst täiesti blank
2 käsi kui blindidel ultranitid just pole, siis foldiks pre K5o. muidu jälle betiks flopis rohkem ja reraisi paneks ka suurema.
3 käsi raiseks jälle rohkem
4 käsi no comments needed
nice hands muidu
a ja äkki kommentaarin üldse valesid käsi
Tänud vastamast, aga pidasin jah siiski teise postituse (selle lk esimese) käsi silmas:biggrin:

$$$
31.10.10, 20:25
Tänud vastamast, aga pidasin jah siiski teise postituse (selle lk esimese) käsi silmas:biggrin:

Postituste arvu lehekülje kohta saab muuta. Ehk see pole igal inimesel sama ;D .

fyte
31.10.10, 21:13
Postituste arvu lehekülje kohta saab muuta. Ehk see pole igal inimesel sama ;D .
Ok, igatahes allolevaid käsi pidasin silmas.




1. Ei suutnud riveril foldi eriti leida, kuigi suht teadsin, et enamus kordadest olen siin taga.

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Hero (SB) ($32.30)
BB ($55.34)
UTG ($20.72) - 50/8 fish (40 kätt)
Button ($53.97)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.20, Button calls $0.20, Hero bets $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.80, Button calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2, 1 fold

Turn: ($7.20) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, UTG calls $5

River: ($17.20) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1, UTG raises $12.72 (All-In), Hero calls $11.72

Total pot: $42.64

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Kings and nines).
UTG had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: UTG won $41.14


2. Üüratu vpip ja pfr vahe järgi on tal kõik 2pair käed ranges - KT, KJ, JT ning vb lisaks AQ'le ka Q9 vb, seega fold peaks suht õige olema?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($28.33)
BB ($20.30) 27/14, flopi agg kõigest 1.1 (130 kätt)
UTG ($18.11)
MP ($8.48)
Button ($11.29)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.20, Button calls $0.20, Hero bets $0.90, BB calls $0.80, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.40) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BB raises $4, Hero calls $2.25

Turn: ($10.40) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero folds

Total pot: $10.40

Results:
BB didn't show
Outcome: BB won $14.88

$$$
31.10.10, 21:27
2. käsi ma läheks flopil broke. See Call check fold liin näeb juba nii väärakas välja. IMO tuleks flopis ära otsustada kas fold või shove.

aga samas ma ei ole CT eriti mängind ka..

Tigrano
01.11.10, 21:59
1. Esimene käsi. Isoleerime kahte fishi, üks pasiivne fishi callib flopi ja oleme oop.

Teooria ütleb, et fishi ei bluffita ja kui passiivne fish tõstab, siis foldi kõik väljaarvatud nuts. Riveris ma ei näe mida sa enam beadiks, väljaarvatud bluff ja seega suht kindel fold.

Paneme fishi mingile rangele, kuna arvatavasti premiume ta ikka tõstab, siis võtab need käed ta rangest välja ja saame.

a) equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.243% 16.16% 00.08% 60314 311.00 { TT-22, AQs-A2s, K2s+, Q4s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, AQo-A3o, K7o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T9o }
Hand 1: 83.757% 83.67% 00.08% 312294 311.00 { AcKs }

Põhimõtteliselt 83% kordadest peaksiime olema ees.

Siit näeme, et flopi cbet on standart nagu sa ka tegid, flopis ta sind ei tõstnud ehk mis ikkagi võib viidata et tal pole 22, 99, k9 ja ak, kk need me tegelt nagunii juba välistasime, turn tuli 9, mida see muutis? Tundub nagu ei muutnud eriti midagi aga tekitab huvitava küsimuse.

Kas meil on ikka veel nuts ja kas meil on saada fishilt veel üldse 3 tänavat valuet antud olukorras, eriti kui me oleme oop, kus meil on raskem mängida.

Mina näen, et 3 tänavat valuet saaks veel ehk bluffilt, kui chekkida river ja ta oma missed flush drawga panustaks või äärmisel juhul mingilt kx käelt, et tal on kx on ka vähem tõenäoline, sest meil on ka K, ülejäänud kordadest ta foldiks juba ja nagu eriti ei näe, et saaksime temalt siin tihti 3 tänavat valuet.

Nüüd tuleb mõelda, et kui chekkida kas kaotame long runnis rohkem valuet, kui panustades.

Põhimõtteliselt fishi ranges mida me kardame on kõvasti 9x kaarte, umbes 7% , mis on uskumatult palju ja masti tõmbeid u 12 % rangest, igasugused auku ostud ja tugevamad kaks paari saab oht on minimaalne, seega ma väga ei kardaks, pigem saaks ehk tihti mingitest auku ostudest ja x floatidest valuet.

Minuarvates, et meil ei ole tihti saada siit enam 3 tänavat valuet ja olen oop ,mina mängiks ise seda kahte moodi, tihti võtaks turnis chek-call liini ja mängiks kahe tänava value peale ehk saab ka tihti fishi bluffidelt valuet, või panustaks üliväikselt turnis, tavaliselt masti draw peal mängijad reedavad ennast callides

Nii kuidas sina donkasid riveri ja callisid, siis seal on suht kindel fold juba, sa ei beadi seal mitte midagi peale bluffi enam ja vaevalt selline passiivne mängija bluffib seal tihti bluffib oma missed mastidrawga.


2. käsi

Selles käes ma ei näe callil kohe kindlasti kohta ja tema hilse positsiooni ranges on tõesti kaks paari, rida, reatõmme, rea ja masti tõmme jne.

Siin kaks varianti: Bet fold meeldiks mulle flopis rohkem, kui shove. Shovedes oled lihtsalt taga või flippad ei midagi enamat.

Karikakar
01.11.10, 22:09
Väga hea mõttekäik Tigrano!

oohoh
01.11.10, 23:10
nonsd pealt läheb küll kole palju kaduma, 3bettida ja blinde tirida oli sult küll kole lihtne :D

fyte
02.11.10, 00:40
Tänud tagasiside eest. Enivei, tegin praegu väikse sessi ja paaris kohas ei olnud kuigi kindel, mida teha.


1. Selles suhtes et AA võib üsna kindlalt välistada, kuna ta oleks prolly pre shovenud vms, nii et meid biidib üksnes Kx (ja vahel harva väike PP).
Checkisin flopil järgi, et induceda teda bluffima.
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SB ($18.62)
BB ($15.10)
UTG ($14.71) - 60/25 agrodonk, postflop oli agg factorid ~2 (50 kätt)
Hero (MP) ($28.09)
Button ($19.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG bets $1, Hero raises $2.70, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.70

Flop: ($5.70) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5.70) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $12.01 (All-In), Hero ??


2. Selles suhtes et flop oli üsna hea, aga BB crAI pani mõtlema.. Selles suhtes et ta pre callis suht insta, ehk siis TT ja 33 ta ranges sees, kuna küllaltki passiivse mängijaga tegu, siis ei usu et ta mingi draw'ga nii teeks, v.a A:club:x:club:, mille vastu flippaksime.

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UTG ($19.70)
BB ($10.27) 25/20 LAG, agg factor flopil kõigest 1.5 (200 kätt)
Hero (UTG) ($19.70)
Button ($19.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG bets $0.40, Hero raises $1.25, 1 fold, BB calls $1.05, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.75) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.30, BB raises $18.45 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero ???

inward
02.11.10, 19:34
2.käes fold oleks tõesti ilus. Ei välistaks ka ATs.



e: Veider, et ta niimoodi flatib bb 3beti. TT või AA ilmselt.

fyte
02.11.10, 23:06
Jep, kuid pakun et ikkagi pigem 33 kui AA, kuna vpip üsnagi kõrge tal. Variandid ka AK/AQs FDga.

Enivei, paar naljakat kätt oli praeguses lühikeses sessis.

1. Peab meeldima 70+ vpipiga donk. Turnil 3betti saades kartsin juba veits 34o'd :D

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($21.50)
BB ($17.75)
UTG ($21.11)
Hero (MP) ($26.05)
Button ($29.76)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.20, Hero bets $0.80, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.45, BB calls $1.45, 1 fold

Turn: ($5.40) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero raises $7.20, BB raises $9.50, Hero raises $16.60 (All-In), BB calls $3.50 (All-In)

River: ($36.40) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $36.40

Results:
BB had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, fives).
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $43.20


2. Fishi poolt well played obv.

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SB ($21.84)
BB ($20.29)
UTG ($23.77)
MP ($22.88)
Hero (Button) ($26.49)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.20, Hero bets $0.80, 2 folds, MP calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1

Turn: ($3.90) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.90) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
MP bets $3.90, Hero raises $8.40, MP calls $4.50

Total pot: $20.70

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (straight, seven high).
MP didn't show - KK oli
Outcome: Hero won $19.67

fyte
04.11.10, 02:32
Suht retarded session oli, üle 4h ning -1bi, jooks oli muidugi "kuldne", 270bb pot läks setvsset nahka jne. Igatahes jällegi paar küsimusttekitavat kätt.

http://www.upload.ee/image/903074/retared3ksession.jpg

1. Turnil checkisin järgi, kuna nii deepide stackidega ei oleks eriti nagu tahtnud broke minna, arvestades seda, et biitisin pmst vaid KKd, kõik midpairid ning AK juhtisid.
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SB ($29.16) - infi polnud eriti.
BB ($5.46)
Hero (UTG) ($40.73)
Button ($23.28)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
Hero bets $0.70, Button calls $0.70, SB raises $1.80, 1 fold, Hero raises $5, 1 fold, SB calls $3.10

Flop: ($10.90) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6

Turn: ($22.90) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($22.90) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero folds

Total pot: $22.90

Results:
SB didn't show
Outcome: SB won $28.76


2. Jällegi vastane tundmatu ning stackid deebid. Küll on kehv OOP mängida, eriti kui veel sellised marginaalsed olukorrad on.
Lõhnas nagu seti järgi, kuna FD laual ja stackid deebid, siis vaja suuremalt raiseda et riveriks rahad sisse saada.
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SB ($21.26)
BB ($22.45)
Hero (UTG) ($40.71)
MP ($32.48)
Button ($11.03)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Hero bets $0.80, MP calls $0.80, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.90) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, MP raises $4.50, Hero folds

Total pot: $4.40

Results:
MP didn't show
Outcome: MP won $7.43

inward
04.11.10, 07:47
1.käes vist panustaks mingi 7-8. Aga noh turnis on board juba nii tajooba et jah.
2.käes IP ma vist calliks isegi. Fold seems fine. Mitu lauda sul seal toweris mängida kannatab ?

fyte
08.11.10, 01:49
http://www.upload.ee/image/911203/prettysweetrun80.jpg
Sweet.
Naljakas veel see, et nagu graafikultki näha siis sain üle ca 55$ poti AA vs AK preflop ai, ja sellele vaatamata solid profit.



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SB ($20.10)
BB ($26.52) 90/20 vaal, 3bet oli väikse sample peale 20% (mõnikümmend kätt)
UTG ($25.42)
MP ($19.60)
Hero (Button) ($29.84)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $0.60, 1 fold, BB raises $1.75, Hero calls $1.15

Flop: ($3.60) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.60) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($16.60) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Total pot: $32.60

Results:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $31.10

Read oli see, et 1/2 pot betid on air. Easy money.:biggrin:

oohoh
09.11.10, 22:54
http://www.upload.ee/image/911203/prettysweetrun80.jpg
Sweet.
Naljakas veel see, et nagu graafikultki näha siis sain üle ca 55$ poti AA vs AK preflop ai, ja sellele vaatamata solid profit.



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SB ($20.10)
BB ($26.52) 90/20 vaal, 3bet oli väikse sample peale 20% (mõnikümmend kätt)
UTG ($25.42)
MP ($19.60)
Hero (Button) ($29.84)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $0.60, 1 fold, BB raises $1.75, Hero calls $1.15

Flop: ($3.60) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.60) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($16.60) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Total pot: $32.60

Results:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (one pair, Queens).
BB had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $31.10

Read oli see, et 1/2 pot betid on air. Easy money.:biggrin:
ez money on sind 3bettida igaltpoolt :P

oohoh
09.11.10, 22:54
ez money on sind any2 3bettida, vist kõrgeima fold to 3bet % mägnija siin :P

inward
09.11.10, 22:58
Pärast seda vihjet hakkab fyte sind abusima nii, et vähe pole :biggrin:. Ja kui sa hakkad 5bet bluffima, siis ta hakkab 6betshovebluffima.

oohoh
09.11.10, 23:04
Pärast seda vihjet hakkab fyte sind abusima nii, et vähe pole :biggrin:. Ja kui sa hakkad 5bet bluffima, siis ta hakkab 6betshovebluffima.
Ära nüüd nitist nii hästi ka arva :D

Tigrano
09.11.10, 23:08
ez money on sind any2 3bettida, vist kõrgeima fold to 3bet % mägnija siin :P

See on ainult hea :biggrin:

Tigrano
09.11.10, 23:11
nonsd pealt läheb küll kole palju kaduma, 3bettida ja blinde tirida oli sult küll kole lihtne :D

Non-sd ei ole nii oluline ja ta mängib 8 lauda ehk tõesti lihtsam varastada, kuid kui palju fishe laudades, miks peabki koguaeg võitlema regularidega oop ja mõnele 3betile kohe otsa panema ::)

fyte
09.11.10, 23:35
nonsd pealt läheb küll kole palju kaduma, 3bettida ja blinde tirida oli sult küll kole lihtne :D
Mis nickiga ongames pelad? :o

fyte
12.11.10, 03:17
Ei 3bettinud pre, sest olin IP ja oleks lasknud tal lihtsalt bluffida kõik tänavad, kui flopil hitin. Ei arvestanud, et see teine fish limpcallib nii suure raise, ja kuna ei tahtnud 3way edasi seal flopis mängida, siis sellepärast raise'singi kohe. Tagantjärele mõeldes muidugi pole ühtki erilist draw'd laual, kuid fishidel on 5 outi ikka, kui madala paari on saanud.

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SB ($21.09) mingi agromaniakk
Hero (BB) ($19.48)
UTG ($67.11) 50/2, flopi agg 0.8 (100kätt)
MP ($19.90)
Button ($59.88)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.20, 2 folds, SB bets $1.10, Hero calls $1, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($3.60) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets $1.80, Hero raises $5, UTG raises $65.91 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero ?

levis
12.11.10, 04:01
....Tagantjärele mõeldes muidugi pole ühtki erilist draw'd laual, kuid fishidel on 5 outi ikka, kui madala paari on saanud.

Näib, et mingi ~36%+ vähemalt on võiduks vaja, et call all-in oleks +EV.
Passiivse fishi vastu arvan, et liialt tihti on vastas 2paari või set, et callida.
Seti vastu on AK üsna dead ja 2paari vastu 16-28%.
Mingit 6x,3x 1paar käe ma küll välistaksin.. ., kuigi suurte fishide puhul on kõik võimalik... , isegi KK-AA on siin võimalik.
Callides loodaks näha KT-KQ, kus siis vastasel on ~12%, võib-olla ka reatõmme 45, aga ma arvan, et seda kõike ei näe piisavalt tihti, et callida.

100 kätt sample 5max peal näitab ikka juba piiavalt, et siin respekti anda.
Palju laudu korraga lased, palju viitsid niisama vastaseid jälgida kui näiteks ise käes ei osale? Kui palju laudu korraga ei lase ning viitsid pidevalt vastaseid jälgida, siis oleks kindlasti selleks ajaks juba read, et kuidas ta flopis marginaalset kätt mängib. Ma ei nori selle jutuga, ma ise olen ääretult laisk, et vastaste kohta reade noppida ja märkmeid kirjutada, kuigi see on ääretult oluline pokkeris, aga ma eelistan netis surfata või mingit videot kõrvale vaadata :)

edit: ahah, lugesin, et 6-9 lauda..., no siis ikka ei jõua eriti jälgida neid käsi, kus ise ei osale.

fyte
12.11.10, 04:17
Jap, selles suhtes et wr võib kahtlemata paraneda märgatavalt, kuid reaalsus on see, et loeb siiski $/hr. :P Note'sid teen ikka aeg-ajalt, aga need enamasti regide kohta, keda tihemini laudades kohtan. Viimasel ajal olen 8 lauaga lasknud.

bounce
12.11.10, 11:30
8 lauda 5max ongames?
päris palju..

fyte
14.11.10, 02:29
8 lauda 5max ongames?
päris palju..
Parajalt. Olen suht veendunud, et 4-5 lauaga, oleks $/hr tunduvalt madalam, nkn ei ole eriti mingisugune loose-monkey, seega actionit jääks üsna kindlalt väheks.

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Üsnagi kuldsed lauad olid praegu, rekordsess kah. :p Run obv üle keskmise, kaotasin vaid korra buyini ja see oli ka KK vs AA pf ai. Non-sd joon samuti normis.


Mõningad huvitavad käed ka:

1. Early christmas vol1

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Button ($28.04)
SB ($31.20)
Hero (BB) ($32.35)
UTG ($18.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
Hero bets $0.70, 2 folds, SB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero raises $4.25, SB calls $2.75

Turn: ($10) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero raises $27, SB calls $16.25 (All-In)

River: ($62.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $62.50

Results:
SB had 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, threes).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $61

2. vol2, villain oli 60/20 vaal, ta oli callinud varem ca 20bb raise big blindilt T9s'ga.

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Hero (SB) ($20)
BB ($16.56)
UTG ($9.98)
Button ($28.31)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, Button calls $0.20, Hero bets $2.60, 1 fold, Button calls $2.50

Flop: ($5.60) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4.20, Button calls $4.20

Turn: ($14) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $13.10 (All-In), Button calls $13.10

River: ($40.20) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $40.20

Results:
Button had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Queens and threes).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $38.70

3. Herocalls ftw.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($40.68)
BB ($32.37)
UTG ($8.54)
MP ($9.89)
Button ($17.76)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG calls $0.20, MP (poster) checks, Button calls $0.20, Hero bets $1.40, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.30, MP (poster) calls $1.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.90) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG raises $7.04 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $5.04

Turn: ($18.98) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($18.98) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $18.98

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, twos).
UTG had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, twos).
Outcome: Hero won $18.04

4. Ja maiuspala siis viimaseks. Tegemist oli 90/60 hüdrovaalaga. Pmst olin juba sessi lõpetamas, aga lihtsalt ei suutnud nii deep olles seda donki lauda jätta, seega üritasin peaaegu ATC positsioonilt ta vastu mängida, ja lõpuks floppasingi kauaoodatud nutsi. :) Samuti see vast suurim pot seni.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($20.28)
BB ($19.79)
UTG ($39.37)
MP ($20.60)
Hero (Button) ($53.37)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.30) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1.30, Hero raises $3.60, 1 fold, UTG raises $4.60, Hero raises $9.10, UTG calls $3.80

Turn: ($20.70) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $29.27 (All-In), Hero calls $29.27

River: ($79.24) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $79.24

Results:
Hero had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (straight, eight high).
UTG had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, eights and fours).
Outcome: Hero won $77.74

inward
14.11.10, 03:10
Väga ilus sess. WP. Millal nl30 ?

fyte
16.11.10, 19:24
Väga ilus sess. WP. Millal nl30 ?
Dno, rolli pmst oleks selleks juba, aga praegu grindin veel samas limiidis.

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Tavaliselt olen taolistes olukordades pikemalt mõtlemata shippinud, kuid antud käes hakkasin mõtlema, et mida ma biidin tegelikult? Sample oli küll väike, aga ei tundunud eriti mingi agromaan olevat, iseasi kas tal A3s ranges on, see oleks vast ainuke tugev käsi, millest ees olen. Donkbet oli misclick btw, mitmes lauas oli action ja antud lauas lihtsalt tegin standard beti sellel flopil.

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Hero (SB) ($19.90)
BB ($31.06)
UTG ($21.93) 23/19 reg, 2.0 flopi agg, kui sellest midagi nii väikse sample peale järeldada saab (60 kätt)
MP ($26.07)
Button ($21.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG bets $0.60, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.40) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, UTG raises $1.60, Hero raises $4.20, UTG raises $10.20 Hero ???

inward
16.11.10, 20:09
Miks sa sb pealt single raise callid üldse ? 3bet või fold. Oleks AJs ja raiser ningi coldcaller ning sa tead, et kumbki eriti 3betile ei foldi, siis võiks callida.

Ma shipiks sisse. AK;AQ käituks samamoodi eriti kui mastitõmme ka veel. Ja miks sa reraised teda, kui sa sisse ei taha ajada ?



e: Muidugi ma ei ole kindel, kas mu mõttekäik on õige pre ja postflop ? Keegi võiks täiendada.

fyte
16.11.10, 21:24
Miks sa sb pealt single raise callid üldse ? 3bet või fold. Oleks AJs ja raiser ningi coldcaller ning sa tead, et kumbki eriti 3betile ei foldi, siis võiks callida.

Ma shipiks sisse. AK;AQ käituks samamoodi eriti kui mastitõmme ka veel. Ja miks sa reraised teda, kui sa sisse ei taha ajada ?
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Callin sellepärast, et vastase kohta on minimaalselt infi ja eeldan, et ta ei calli 3betti mingi pasaga ja seetõttu on vastas tugevamad ässad, vm käed, mille vastu mul OOP halb mängida.
Miks reraisen, kui ei taha sisse ajada? See minraise seal on suht retarded, see võib olla nii random Ax, set või hoopiski draw, sp ka tõstsin teda omakorda üle.. Foldimisruumi on küllaga ju, kõigest 1/4 stacki on sees, sinu jutust jäi mulje nagu commitisin ära ennast sellega. Callida ju ei saa flopil samuti, sest FD maas siiski.

inward
16.11.10, 22:25
Sa hitid kaks paari ja reraised ta minraise, pöörad sellise value käe siis bluffiks v? AJJ floppi lähed hittima ainult v? See on shove minu arust ja kõik.

fyte
18.11.10, 01:52
Ei no jah, pmst ma ei foldinudki seda vaid shovesin, kuigi hetk enne seda mõtlesin, et mis tal muud ikka on, kui set. Eks longrunnis on jah +EV sellistes spottides nupud sisse saada, aga viimasel ajal mitu korda nii olnud, et 2-4. nuts käes käes ja siis mõtlen, et villain ju miskit muud ei repi kui aint paremat kätt.

Igatahes:

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SB ($21.01)
Hero (BB) ($36.51)
UTG ($32.84)
MP ($23.27)
Button ($39.65) 31/7 fish

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.20, MP bets $0.80, Button calls $0.80, 1 fold, Hero raises $3.40, 2 folds, Button calls $2.80

Flop: ($8.30) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button calls $5

Turn: ($18.30) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button raises $20, Hero raises $27.91 (All-In), Button calls $7.91

River: ($74.12) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $74.12

Results:
Button had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (straight, Ace high).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $72.62

Selle retarded käe pärast siis tuli BE sess, villain oli ikka väga udu, kõigepealt callib sita käega ja siis floppi mitte hittides saab turni ikka oma gin-cardile pihta.:rolleyes:

raunsz
18.11.10, 08:42
Sick deep ka! Meenus Antoniouse ja Goldi vaheline käsi kohe.

fyte
21.11.10, 01:28
Jooks pole kiita olnud, viimased 6k kätt on breakeven. Standard variatsioon, midagi pole parata.

Igatahes panen ühe käe ka:
Kuna villain polnud fullstack ning 10käe sample peale oli 9-t kätt mänginud, siis tõenäoliselt tegu dongiga.

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SB ($14.71) - 90/30 (10 kätt)
BB ($26.73)
Hero (UTG) ($29.74)
MP ($18.30) - 47/20 fish (50 kätt)
Button ($25.17)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
Hero bets $0.70, MP calls $0.70, 1 fold, SB raises $1.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.80, MP calls $0.80

Flop: ($4.70) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets $13.21 (All-In), Hero ???

lennuk
21.11.10, 07:49
kuna callisid ja hittisid TPTK siis peaks ju olema easy ship it aga peale sind veel villanil tegutseda ja no ma ei tea ,endale jällegi ei meeldi sihukesi overbette callida. Kuna eeldused on et tegu dongiga siis peaks TPTK ikka tihti siin hea olema aga muret teeb villain peale sind kuna board on ikka väga tema range ,seega ise vast foldiksin.

nikitheone
21.11.10, 10:37
kuna callisid ja hittisid TPTK siis peaks ju olema easy ship it aga peale sind veel villanil tegutseda ja no ma ei tea ,endale jällegi ei meeldi sihukesi overbette callida. Kuna eeldused on et tegu dongiga siis peaks TPTK ikka tihti siin hea olema aga muret teeb villain peale sind kuna board on ikka väga tema range ,seega ise vast foldiksin.

sry, aga wtf see on? loe läbi, enne kui postitad.
90/30 fish on suure tõenäosusega ka väga agro postflop (pane teine kord agg statid ka - ), seega call.
TPTK on nuts ta range vastu.

fyte
21.11.10, 14:12
sry, aga wtf see on? loe läbi, enne kui postitad.
90/30 fish on suure tõenäosusega ka väga agro postflop (pane teine kord agg statid ka - ), seega call.
TPTK on nuts ta range vastu.
Selles suhtes et isegi 100 kätt pole vast agg factorite määramiseks eriti piisav sample, seega 10st käest pole mõtet rääkidagi, samas kui 100 käe peale oleks vpip endiselt 90%, siis oleks vast shippimise koht küll flopil.

inward
21.11.10, 14:51
Kuidas ei ole piisav ? Fishi 20-30 kätt näitab juba rahulikult ära, et ta on segaselt agro postflop.

oohoh
21.11.10, 15:11
Kuidas ei ole piisav ? Fishi 20-30 kätt näitab juba rahulikult ära, et ta on segaselt agro postflop.
See on see värk kui oma pea kasutamise asemel hakatakse numbreid vaatama:P

lennuk
21.11.10, 17:30
sry, aga wtf see on? loe läbi, enne kui postitad.
90/30 fish on suure tõenäosusega ka väga agro postflop (pane teine kord agg statid ka - ), seega call.
TPTK on nuts ta range vastu.

ma ei öelnud et foldi TPTK dongi vastu vaid et peale meid veel ju üks villain tegutsemata ja konkreetne board on just selle villaini ranges väga hästi.

fyte
21.11.10, 23:45
Swingised viimasel ajal need sessid..

http://www.upload.ee/image/938419/retardedfishid.jpg

Küll need "regid" alles leiavad oddse callimiseks alati oma draw'dega, ja nagu niuhti tuleb ju kohe turni ära ka see. Samas mulle pole viimastel päevadel ühtki 10-oudist riverisse tulnud - mingi 4-5x olen set vs rida/flush saanud nupud sisse flopil/turnil.

1. Oleks turnil näiteks 9 tulnud, siis poleks päris broke läinud. Tagantjärele mõeldes oleks võind flopil muidugi rohkem kütta ka.
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SB ($19.80)
Hero (BB) ($20.70)
UTG ($20.16)
MP ($19.70)
Button ($29.89)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
UTG calls $0.20, 1 fold, Button bets $0.60, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, UTG calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.90) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.40, Button calls $1.40, Hero raises $4.60, UTG calls $3.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($12.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $15.50 (All-In), UTG calls $14.96 (All-In)

River: ($42.42) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $42.42

Results:
Hero had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, eights).
UTG had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: UTG won $40.92



2. Väga huvitav käsi fishi vastu, riveril tegin valueraise, tüüp mõtles mingi 15sekki ja siis callis, olin 100% kindel, et FH ta ette ei näita. ::)

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SB ($26.15)
BB ($16.31)
UTG ($20)
Hero (MP) ($23.08)
Button ($37.29)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.60, 1 fold, SB calls $0.50, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.80) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1, Hero calls $1, 1 fold

Turn: ($3.80) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $3.80, Hero calls $3.80

River: ($11.40) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero raises $7.25, BB calls $4.75

Total pot: $25.90

Results:
BB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (full house, nines over fives).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: BB won $24.61



3. Järjekordne retarded fish ::)

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SB ($38.04)
BB ($11.18)
UTG ($25)
Hero (MP) ($35.35)
Button ($19.81)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.80, 2 folds, BB raises $1.20, Hero raises $2.80, BB raises $4.40, Hero raises $31.75 (All-In), BB calls $5.38 (All-In)

Flop: ($22.46) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($22.46) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($22.46) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $22.46

Results:
BB had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and eights).
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Queens and eights).
Outcome: BB won $21.34




4. Nii, ja selle käe kohta ootaks arutlust. Olin kahe vahel, et kas 4bettida ja callida shove või lihtsalt callida. Otsustasin callida, kuna olin IP. Igatahes kuidas hero liin siin käes oli üldse? Niti turni donkbet oli suht segadusse ajav, lõpuks jõudsin järeldusele et tal pidi olema kas 77, 99 või äärmisel juhul AKs.

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SB ($27.31) 15/8 nit, fold to cb 33%
BB ($19.20) 20/16/10 3bet monkey.
UTG ($19.70)
Hero (MP) ($44.70)
Button ($21.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.70, 1 fold, SB calls $0.60, BB raises $2.60, Hero calls $2.10, SB calls $2.10

Flop: ($8.40) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($17.40) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($27.40) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $15.01 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $27.40

Results:
SB didn't show
Outcome: SB won $41.04

fyte
28.11.10, 19:25
Suht tilti läksin üle pika aja, sest run oli ikka nii kusine, kui üldse olla saab. Kõik algas sellest, kuidas mõtlesin vahelduseks turnat teha, niisiis regasingi 11$ deepstack turnale ja olin algstacki pea 1,5-kordistanud, kui tuli siuke käsi. Flopi checkisin obv sellepärast, et üsna vähetõenäoline, et tal Ax on ja järele checkimine induceb bluffima jnejne.

Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to fyte: [A:club:, A:heart:]
Poleaxe69 folds
4jollyheart raises to 160
turmapuro folds
fyte raises to 450
dager9_x folds
thecmj folds
4jollyheart calls 290
--- Dealing flop [2:heart:, A:spade:, 4:diamond:]
4jollyheart checks
fyte checks
--- Dealing turn [8:diamond:]
4jollyheart bets 4715 [all in]
fyte calls 3505 [all in]
--- Dealing river [3:diamond:]
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Summary:
Main pot: 8030 won by 4jollyheart (8030)
Rake taken: $0
Seat 8: dager9_x (3800), net: -40
Seat 9: thecmj (3706), net: -80
Seat 10: Poleaxe69 (1940)
Seat 1: 4jollyheart (9240), net: +4075, [5:diamond:, K:diamond:] (FLUSH KING)
Seat 2: turmapuro (8630)
Seat 3: fyte (0), net: -3955, [Ac, Ah] (THREE_OF_A_KIND ACE)

Tegin väikse pausi ja seejärel tegin siis cashi lauad lahti, kokkuvõttes ei tulnud küll palju miinust (-1bi), aga jah...

1. Alles riveril märkasin, et fold to cbet oli 33%, muidu oleks turnil rohkem vajutanud. Aga no jep, midagi ei saa teha kui totaalse sõnnikuga floaditakse flopil ja siis runner-runnerid tahavad kokku tulla. Tegu oli regulariga.

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Hero (SB) ($20.10)
BB ($23.59)
UTG ($22.76)
MP ($13.10)
Button ($29.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.60) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

Turn: ($3.60) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BB calls $1.80

River: ($7.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

Total pot: $15.20

Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Jacks and fives).
BB had 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: BB won $14.44

2. Fold to cbet 70%, sp otsustasin vahelduseks trappida, kuna drawsid väga pole ja ilmselt T9 pole tal range'ski. Riveril ilmselt oleks ez fold, aga kuna A-game'st oli asi kaugel, siis mõtlesin et "äkki on AJ" ja maksin talle kinni selle.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($15.94)
BB ($20.77) 21/16 reg, turn agg 1.4, river 1.7
Hero (UTG) ($37.11)
MP ($19.25)
Button ($20.99)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
Hero bets $0.80, 3 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.70) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.70) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $1.30, Hero raises $4.50, BB calls $3.20

River: ($10.70) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $7, Hero calls $7

Total pot: $24.70

Results:
BB had 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).
Hero had 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: BB won $23.47


Rohkem uploadida ei viitsi, pmst analoogseid oli jaotusi oli veel ja veel.

fyte
28.11.10, 23:56
Otsustasin, et tahaks ikka plusspäeva teha ja seega grindisin veel paar tunnikest ja tulemus norm, kuigi run kesine.

http://www.upload.ee/image/953092/veitssitanerun20.jpg


Siin on fold omal kohal, eks? UTG on agrovaal ja BTN mingi 30/10 vms paarikümne käe peale.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($22.93)
BB ($20.36)
UTG ($23.83)
MP ($7.44)
Button ($51.51)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, Hero raises $1.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.60, Button calls $1.60

Flop: ($6.20) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $3.50, UTG raises $21.83 (All-In), Button calls $21.83, Hero folds


Total pot: $53.36

oohoh
29.11.10, 01:10
Kerge fold jah.
NL30 poole ei kipu veel?

inward
29.11.10, 01:19
Lükka oma alltime ongame nl20 graph üles.

fyte
29.11.10, 06:15
Kerge fold jah.
NL30 poole ei kipu veel?
Ilmselt järgmine nädal, rolli selleks on, aga nl20s omajagu mängijaid märgistatud ja notetud, nii et ses suhtes on lihtsam.


Lükka oma alltime ongame nl20 graph üles.
Kohe saab kuu läbi, siis teen kokkuvõtted.

nomerlot
29.11.10, 10:50
Kui rolli on, siis soovitan NL30-sse liikuda, minu meelest on seal laudu rohkem kui NL20 ja tase ei ole mingilgi määral parem, vähesed head mängijad tunneb kiirelt ära.

NL50-s näeb korralikke TAG mängijaid juba rohkem, kuigi ka seal on võrreldes Starsi/FTP-ga fishe märksa rohkem.

EDIT: aijah, sa oled ju shorthanded mängija, neid laudu ma tegelikult NL30-50 kohta ei tunne.

Tigrano
29.11.10, 12:30
Jah mõistlik oleks juba edasi liikuda selle rolliga, 5maxis samuti fishe ja laudade valikut veelgi rohkem.

Mäksu
29.11.10, 14:34
ma arvan, et 150bi oleks miinimum millega edasi liikuda :rolleyes:

nomerlot
29.11.10, 14:45
ma arvan, et 150BB oleks miinimum millega edasi liikuda :rolleyes:

FYP ;)

fyte
29.11.10, 21:56
Lolz, ma ei hakka tõesti mingi 15bi'ga limiitide vahel liikuma, kui sellised 5-6buyinilised swingid on kerged tulema ühe sessiooni vältel.

Paar stiilinäidet siis sessist, pole võimalik profitit näidata ju nii:

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($21.98)
BB ($22.80)
UTG ($20)
MP ($31.90)
Button ($20.64)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
UTG bets $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises $1.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.40

Flop: ($4.20) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

Turn: ($10.20) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $5.10, Hero raises $16.98 (All-In), UTG calls $9.90 (All-In)

River: ($40.20) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $40.20

Results:
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
UTG had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: UTG won $38.70
::)::)::)::)::)::)::)

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (Button) ($19.80)
SB ($31.75)
BB ($33.45)
UTG ($19.98)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
BB bets $0.80, UTG calls $0.80, Hero raises $2.90, 1 fold, BB raises $6.20, 1 fold, Hero raises $19.80 (All-In), BB calls $12.80

Flop: ($40.60) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($40.60) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($40.60) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $40.60

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (high card, Ace).
BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (flush, King high).
Outcome: BB won $39.10


ja siis veel pre ai AK vs AA jms standard pask, no ühesõnaga - agro BRM korral oleks rollist lihtsalt mingi 1/3 lännu, ja seda just puhtalt variatsiooni tõttu.

Tigrano
29.11.10, 22:00
Jube sess, ega selliste sesside puhul ei oleks isegi Ivey oskustest kasu :)

fyte
30.11.10, 19:19
Eile siis tegin siiski veel ühe paaritunnise sessi ning +60, vähemalt mindseti taga pole asi kinni.

Igatahes november siis siuke:

http://www.upload.ee/image/956486/nov.jpg

+ rb mingi 175$ ning kui turna donkamised maha arvestada, siis kokkuvõttes kuskil +900$ kuu. Mõnes mõttes võib rahule jääda, aga tean, et oleks saanud veelgi paremini tegelt, nende BE stretchide ajal oli küll run pask, aga nii mõneski kohas oleks saanud tegelt parema otsuse teha siiki jne.
Ajaliselt kulus pmst 55h, ehk siis $/hr on üsnagi solid, volüüm oleks võind vb veits suurem olla.

inward
30.11.10, 19:47
Väga okei kuu ju. Hea töö.

Mis järgmise kuu eesmärgid/plaanid ette näevad ?

fyte
02.12.10, 22:54
Väga okei kuu ju. Hea töö.

Mis järgmise kuu eesmärgid/plaanid ette näevad ?
Ty.
Pmst vaikselt tahaks üles liikuda, praegu olen esimesi nl30 shotte võtnud ja paari sessiga miski +1,5bi. Fishe ca sama palju vast kui 20ski, ja tundub, et regid on rohkem nitisemad, mingi 16/12/6 tüüpi jms.


1. Statte pole, aga stacki järgi tundub fish
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($30.67)
BB ($10.20)
UTG ($23.22)
MP ($30.25)
Hero (Button) ($29.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero bets $1.05, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.20) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $9.15 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero ???

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2. No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($36.18)
Hero (BB) ($39.25)
UTG ($37.71)
Button ($26.37) - 20/3, agg flopil 4 ja turnil 5. (200+ kätt)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, Button bets $1.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.55) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero raises $6.70, Button calls $4.70

Turn: ($15.95) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero teeb mida ?!

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3. Kuidas hero liin siin käes on? Riveril bet/fold või mis kõige kasumlikum teha on üldse? Sest riveril ju enam set vm käsi ei 3beti vast.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($57.03) 44/14 fish, agg factor riveril 8 (250+ kätt)
Hero (BB) ($30.65)
UTG ($28.40)
Button ($30.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
[color=#666666]2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.60) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.30, Hero raises $0.90, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.40) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.80) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $4.65, Hero raises $13, SB raises $21.70, Hero calls $8.35

Total pot: $47.50

fyte
04.12.10, 00:19
TRAA kui tilti ajab kuidas mingi 80vpip debiilikud luckivad oma riverisse kogu aeg, FOR FUCK SAKE. Tõmban minema ka sealt ongame'i sitaaugust, nii kettasse ajab siuke pidev ajun*ss, tra. Oleks reedel saand oma ajaga muudki peale hakata, aga mõtlesin et kuna nii fishine on, siis peab ju tühjaks tegema, aga ei saa ju kui kõik drawd riverisse kokku tulevad.


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($34.88)
BB ($27.17)
Hero (UTG) ($42.17)
MP ($50.39)
Button ($37.23)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds, SB bets $1.05, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.70) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.35, Hero calls $1.35

Turn: ($5.40) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $5.40, Hero raises $11.40, SB raises $26.93 (All-In), Hero calls $20.93

River: ($70.06) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $70.06

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (full house, fours over Aces).
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: SB won $68.56




No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($68.12)
BB ($10.50)
UTG ($30.81)
MP ($36.10)
Hero (Button) ($29.14)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
2 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.65) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.05) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4.05, Hero raises $27.19 (All-In), BB calls $4.50 (All-In)

River: ($21.15) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $21.15

Results:
Hero had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, Aces).
BB had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (straight, eight high).
Outcome: BB won $20.10



+ rida coolereid, AKs vs KK pf, 2pr vs 2pr fullbi etc. mõttetu ajaraisk kui ükski donkidega mängitud käsi vastu ei pea.

Tigrano
04.12.10, 07:58
Mindset nõrk lihtsalt ja loogika puudub, ise oled veel valinud mängimiseks 5maxi, kus pidevalt selliseid asju juhtub, teades seda peaksid ju leppima sellega ja need samad mängijad annavad järjepidevalt poole rohkem ära ning sinu suckouditud käte mainimine ei oma tegelikult suuremat tähtsust.

Iga suckoudi pärast tuba vahetada on kindlasti vale otsus :)

Et üldse pokkerit igapäevaselt mängida tuleks mindset korda saada ja mängu olemus selgeks teha, siis edaspidi kergem.

fyte
04.12.10, 13:03
Ei vaidle vastu jap, et mindsetiga probleeme. Viimasel ajal run on suht jube olnud lihtsalt, eilne sess oli lihtsalt asja tipp. Loll tunne on, kui nii aeg kui ka raha läheb nö musta auku, sest fishidel on heater.

Aga jah, peab end käsile võtma, muidu edasi ei jõua.

oohoh
04.12.10, 13:23
Palju 20s suurim - swing on olnud?

fyte
04.12.10, 13:25
Palju 20s suurim - swing on olnud?
miski 10bi

fyte
05.12.10, 16:35
Praegu siis üle mõne aja korralik +4,5bi sess, kuigi imo coolereid oli ikkagi rõvedalt palju, postitan neist mõned.

Küll alles leitakse oddse pre 3beti callimiseks.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($21.88)
Hero (BB) ($39.40)
UTG ($22.67)
MP ($23.92)
Button ($7.77)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
2 folds, Button bets $1, SB calls $0.90, Hero raises $3.50, Button calls $2.50, SB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, Button calls $4.27 (All-In), SB raises $18.38 (All-In), Hero calls $12.38

Turn: ($51.53) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($51.53) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $51.53

Results:
Button had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (one pair, nines).
SB had 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (three of a kind, nines).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and nines).
Outcome: SB won $50.03


Villane oli täiesti solid regulari stattidega, aga kui ikka seitsmes meel ütleb, et flop hitib, siis ju ei saa foldida. :rolleyes:
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($29.04)
BB ($9.72)
UTG ($20) retard
MP ($32.49)
Button ($24.64)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
UTG bets $0.80, MP calls $0.80, Button calls $0.80, Hero raises $3.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.70, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.80) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6.50, UTG raises $16.50 (All-In), Hero calls $10

Turn: ($41.80) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($41.80) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $41.80

Results:
Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
UTG had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (full house, twos over Jacks).
Outcome: UTG won $40.30


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($17.52)
BB ($22.67)
UTG ($23.92)
MP ($8.80)
Button ($50.03)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, MP calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.70, 1 fold, MP raises $1.20, Hero raises $2.80, MP calls $1.40

Flop: ($5.80) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, MP raises $6 (All-In), Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($17.80) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($17.80) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $17.80

Results:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens).
MP had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (full house, Queens over nines).
Outcome: MP won $16.91

Igatahes, siin käes fold on ok?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (3 handed) - Party-Poker (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($63.73)
BB ($23.73) 16/9 weaktight, agg factorid olid kõikidel tänavatel 2-2,5 vahel (600+ kätt)
Button ($20.84)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.20) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80

Turn: ($2.80) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BB raises $3.70, Hero folds

Total pot: $6.30

Results:
BB didn't show
Outcome: BB won $7.94

fyte
07.12.10, 23:39
bump


Ty.

1. Statte pole, aga stacki järgi tundub fish
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($30.67)
BB ($10.20)
UTG ($23.22)
MP ($30.25)
Hero (Button) ($29.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
UTG calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero bets $1.05, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.20) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $9.15 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero ???

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2. No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($36.18)
Hero (BB) ($39.25)
UTG ($37.71)
Button ($26.37) - 20/3, agg flopil 4 ja turnil 5. (200+ kätt)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, Button bets $1.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.55) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero raises $6.70, Button calls $4.70

Turn: ($15.95) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero teeb mida ?!

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3. Kuidas hero liin siin käes on? Riveril bet/fold või mis kõige kasumlikum teha on üldse? Sest riveril ju enam set vm käsi ei 3beti vast.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($57.03) 44/14 fish, agg factor riveril 8 (250+ kätt)
Hero (BB) ($30.65)
UTG ($28.40)
Button ($30.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
[color=#666666]2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.60) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.30, Hero raises $0.90, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.40) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.80) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $4.65, Hero raises $13, SB raises $21.70, Hero calls $8.35

Total pot: $47.50

nomerlot
08.12.10, 09:47
1. ma ei näe mõtet 2xpot shovet callida, on lihtsamaid kohti raha teenimiseks.
2. mina olen vist tavaliselt bet-foldinud taolistes olukordades, ega ma kindel pole, kas see on õige liin...
3. PF raise, riveri calliks, sest ei taha seal ületõstet küll näha.

fyte
08.12.10, 15:01
3. PF raise, riveri calliks, sest ei taha seal ületõstet küll näha.
Pf raise? Päris any2ga imo pole ka mõtet agressiivsust pre näidata, sest enamus ikka ennem limpcallivad kui foldivad. Riveril siuke weird spot imo, kuna fishi liin on nii ebaloogiline lihtsalt - pärast flopi raise'i ikka donkbetib turnil ning riveril on ju mitmeid 2pr combosid, mida ta betiks samamoodi for value.

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Anyway - plaan oleks panna osa rolli kuhugi teisi pokkerituppa ka, olen viimastel päevadel nats uurinud, aga sobivat pole saiti pole leidnud.

nomerlot
08.12.10, 15:42
ma ei oska öelda, suited gapper on Ongames minu jaoks küll piisavalt hea kaart, et SB openlimpijat üle tõsta. Kui koju jõuan, püüan statsi välja võtta, aga arvan, et see on kasumlik tegevus, sest folditakse päris palju sellele ning flopis on sul pf agressori initsiatiiv.

fyte
08.12.10, 20:08
ma ei oska öelda, suited gapper on Ongames minu jaoks küll piisavalt hea kaart, et SB openlimpijat üle tõsta. Kui koju jõuan, püüan statsi välja võtta, aga arvan, et see on kasumlik tegevus, sest folditakse päris palju sellele ning flopis on sul pf agressori initsiatiiv.
Jah, aga kui hiti ja cbetile ei foldita, siis sellel käel puudub pmst igasugune SD value. Minu arust lihtsalt enda elu keeruliseks tegemine on siis mingi 2-3 barrel bluffimine.

Tigrano
08.12.10, 20:23
Isoleerimine on alati kasumlik, isegi oop, kui just mega callingstation ei ole, muidu üldjuhul kaardi eelist pole väga vaja, vältida tuleks ainult madalaid kaarte, millega kehva postflopis mängida.

fyte
09.12.10, 20:01
http://www.upload.ee/image/974551/retardedFISHID.jpg

tilti ajab siuke breakeven nühkimine

fyte
11.12.10, 02:12
http://www.halifaxpersonalinjurylawyerblog.com/space-heater.jpg


http://www.upload.ee/image/977423/kyte228.jpg

Siuke kena hiiter kulus marjaks ära, sest nädala keskel sai 5k kätt BE joostud. Lauad olid kuldsed obv ja ka otsused said korralikult läbi mõeldes tehtud jne. :rolleyes:

Anyway, üks käsi ka:

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

Hero (SB) ($23.66)
BB ($17.17) 55/15 fish 50 käe peale, fold to cbet 33%
UTG ($24.08)
MP ($26.14)
Button ($60.39)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif
1 fold, MP bets $0.60, 1 fold, Hero raises $2, BB calls $1.80, MP calls $1.40

Flop: ($6) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $3.25, BB calls $3.25, 1 fold

Turn: ($12.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero ???

mehumble
11.12.10, 16:33
Ilus graafik. Punane joon ka korralikult pinnal

fyte
12.12.10, 16:42
Ilus graafik. Punane joon ka korralikult pinnal
:)
Aga muidu olen tähele pannud, et selle punase joone käekäik oleneb ikka küllaltki palju luckist - mõnikord ühe sessi jooksul on mitu villainit, kes blufivad sind, nii et võtad c/c liini riverini, kus raised AI ja siis foldivad selle peale oma airi ning punane joon tõuseb kõrgustesse.

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Viimasel ajal läinud alati sessi lõpus perse midagi. :D Pmst praegu ka, 2 lauda 8st alles ja ikka peab 5 prossane dongile ära tulema. Aga noh, vähemalt jäi sess sellele vaatamata +1bi. ::)

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

SB ($16.04)
BB ($5.58)
UTG ($21.48)
Hero (MP) ($25.81)
Button ($20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $0.80, 1 fold, SB calls $0.70, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.80) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB raises $2.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.80) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $3.40, Hero raises $22.51 (All-In), SB calls $9.34 (All-In)

River: ($32.28) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $32.28

Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: SB won $30.78

mehumble
12.12.10, 16:46
Kui natuke pikemalt mõelda, siis punane joon oleneb su enda mängust. Kuidas sa võitled väikeste potide pärast, kuidas sa mängid steali olukordades, kuidas sa kasutad ära vastase nõrkusi. Ma ei jälgi küll seda joont eriti, aga no nii nõrgalt ma ka postflop ei mängi, et see miinuses on. Laudade valik on oluline ja nagu ma juba mainisin, tuleb valida vastaseid, kelle nõrkuseid ära kasutada.

fyte
12.12.10, 16:58
Kui natuke pikemalt mõelda, siis punane joon oleneb su enda mängust. Kuidas sa võitled väikeste potide pärast, kuidas sa mängid steali olukordades, kuidas sa kasutad ära vastase nõrkusi. Ma ei jälgi küll seda joont eriti, aga no nii nõrgalt ma ka postflop ei mängi, et see miinuses on. Laudade valik on oluline ja nagu ma juba mainisin, tuleb valida vastaseid, kelle nõrkuseid ära kasutada.
Eks ta mängustiilist oleneb küll, aga arvan, et nii võib seetõttu SD joon selle arvelt kannatada.

Eelmise kuu graph - wr ju iseenesest norm, aga nonsd joon läheb pmst sügavustesse.




http://www.upload.ee/image/956486/nov.jpg

Tigrano
12.12.10, 17:00
Kõik tip top ;) 8 laual mängides on väga raske varastada igat blindi ja kaitsta rohkem blinde ja barreldada readide kohaselt, jätka sama taktikaga.

inward
12.12.10, 17:01
+1


Jätke see non-sd joon lõpuks rahule.

mehumble
12.12.10, 17:08
Kellelegi polegi see joon ette jäänud. Niikaua kuni kasumit toodad ei ole vaja kuskilt vigu otsida. Ja 8 laual nagu tigrano juba ütles on raskem panna asju tähele. Mina olin/olen impressed selle graafiku üle ja loodan ka sama ilusti mängida.

fyte
14.12.10, 02:15
http://foorum.pokkeriprod.com/entry.php/33-fyte-blog - uus blogi

ranka
22.03.11, 21:48
Arvan, et piisav põhjus: http://foorum.pokkeriprod.com/entry.php/33-fyte-blog

fyte
22.03.11, 23:22
Väga meeldiv, et päevikud on lõpuks avatud.
Aga igatahes, see kuu on siuke keskmine volüüm senimaani olnud ning rushis kulgeb üsna swingiselt - mitmeid kordi on juhtunud nii, et sessi alguspoolel läheb paar bi ära ulme coolerite / beatide nahka ning siis hiljem kannatab enda üldine mäng selle all. Sp olen ka enamjaolt nl25, mitte 50 mänginud.

http://www.upload.ee/image/1214531/23marchrush.jpg

Panen paar suuremat kaotatud potti ka praegusest tunnisest sessist.

1. Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1244245 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1244245)
DeucesCracked Poker Videos (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_phpbb) Hand History Converter (http://www.handconverter.com)

SB: $75.78
BB: $53.67
UTG: $33.19
Hero (MP): $25.10
CO: $25.00
BTN: $26.12

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN folds, BB raises to $52.92 all in, Hero calls $19.85 all in

Turn: ($51.05) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($51.05) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $51.05
BB shows 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (a flush, Ace high)
Hero shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (three of a kind, Aces)
BB wins $48.50
(Rake: $2.55)


2. Siin on ehk pf call küsitav, kuid stackid olid 150bb deep.


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1244247 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1244247)
DeucesCracked Poker Videos (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_phpbb) Hand History Converter (http://www.handconverter.com)

BB: $52.30
UTG: $25.15
MP: $25.71
CO: $36.10
BTN: $26.30
Hero (SB): $39.04

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($10.50) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6.25, Hero raises to $33.79 all in, BB calls $27.54

River: ($78.08) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $78.08
BB shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Hero shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (two pair, Aces and Fives)
BB wins $75.08
(Rake: $3.00)


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Btw - kahju et vanadest siinsetest postitustest mitmetel on pildid ära kadunud. Olen tavaliselt kasutanud upload.ee'd, kuid vb leidub mõnda paremat varianti, kus pildid säilivad?

inward
22.03.11, 23:25
Hea, et 72s ei olnud, aga teeb sama välja nkn. Masendavad tüübid :D. Kusjuures enda osad pildid ka kadunud, samuti kasutasin upload.ee'd

kardaanirist
22.03.11, 23:40
endal ka pildid kadunud. minuarust oli upload.ee'ga selline teema, et kui 30. päeva jooksul keegi seda alla ei lae (loe: vaata), siis vist kustutatakse pilt ära vms. pole kindel tho.

edu! :)

fyte
24.03.11, 22:19
Ty.

Enivei, panen tänasest paar kentsakamat kätt:

1. Kuskil 300k kätt võttis aega, et siukses olukorras (double paired boardil) quadsiga FH ära stackida. :P


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1247328 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1247328)
DeucesCracked Poker Videos (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_phpbb) Hand History Converter (http://www.handconverter.com)

BB: $49.05
UTG: $12.88
MP: $31.48
Hero (CO): $37.33
BTN: $32.13
SB: $43.01

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
UTG raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, UTG folds

Turn: ($5.60) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($11.60) 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $6, Hero raises to $32.08 all in, MP calls $20.23 all in

Final Pot: $64.06
MP mucks Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
Hero shows 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (four of a kind, Eights)
Hero wins $61.06
(Rake: $3.00)

2.
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1247338 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1247338)
DeucesCracked Poker Videos (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_phpbb) Hand History Converter (http://www.handconverter.com)

CO: $78.45
BTN: $46.45
SB: $85.75
BB: $83.90
UTG: $50.75
Hero (MP): $175.95

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, BB raises to $4.75, Hero calls $3.25

Flop: ($9.75) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9.75) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($18.75) 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $9, Hero calls $9

Final Pot: $36.75
BB shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Threes)
Hero mucks Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
BB wins $34.95
(Rake: $1.80)

3. win


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1247344 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1247344)
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BB: $50.00
UTG: $104.15
MP: $49.00
CO: $70.35
Hero (BTN): $72.35
SB: $72.70

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
1 fold, MP raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($6.00) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (3 players)
MP checks, CO bets $32, Hero raises to $70.60 all in, MP folds, CO folds

Final Pot: $70.00
Hero wins $67.00
(Rake: $3.00)

raunsz
24.03.11, 22:59
haha kolmas. Ruffini valuebluff

fyte
24.03.11, 23:02
WTF, see FTP ajas praegu hüdrotilti - lampi hangus just kui olin nutsi flopanud ja tahtsin c-raiseda..


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1247461 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1247461)
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Hero (UTG): $40.51
MP: $33.34
CO: $39.12
BTN: $25.00
SB: $28.74
BB: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, Hero folds, CO calls $0

Turn: ($2.60) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.25, BTN raises to $3.50, CO folds

Final Pot: $3.10
BTN wins $6.27
(Rake: $-3.17)

// converter peksab nüüd segast ka.. ühesõnaga teised 2 villainit hakkasid flopil juba paugutama.

peete82
25.03.11, 07:44
Btw - kahju et vanadest siinsetest postitustest mitmetel on pildid ära kadunud. Olen tavaliselt kasutanud upload.ee'd, kuid vb leidub mõnda paremat varianti, kus pildid säilivad?
Tee konto hot.ee-sse ja uploadi pildid sinna.
Säilivad täpselt nii kaua, kui ise tahad.

pastilaa
25.03.11, 11:46
Ty.

Enivei, panen tänasest paar kentsakamat kätt:

Teise ja kolmanda käe oleks saanud küll paremini mängida minu meelest :). Kui teises käes mingi spetsiifiline resteal read, siis pane see ka ikka juurde - vastasel juhul on pre call spew.

fyte
25.03.11, 13:18
Teise ja kolmanda käe oleks saanud küll paremini mängida minu meelest :). Kui teises käes mingi spetsiifiline resteal read, siis pane see ka ikka juurde - vastasel juhul on pre call spew.
Täiesti tundmatu vastu foldin, aga see sama tüüp oli viimase 5-10min (enamus käsi mängisime nkn erinevates laudades) jooksul ikka 2-3x 3bettinud/squeezinud mind, seega callisin lightimalt maha lihtsalt. Muidu seal rushis on keskmise regi 3bet% kuskil 7-9%, ehk siis kõiksugu suited rämpsu jms tõstetakse pikemalt mõtlemata, ja tavaliselt üle 1 barreli õhuga ei panda OOP.
Aga mis kolmanda käe kohta? Otsutasin lihtsalt shoveda, sest vaevalt ta turnil ülejäänud stacki ka sisse lükkaks õhuga, lootes FE peale.

pastilaa
25.03.11, 14:21
Täiesti tundmatu vastu foldin, aga see sama tüüp oli viimase 5-10min (enamus käsi mängisime nkn erinevates laudades) jooksul ikka 2-3x 3bettinud/squeezinud mind, seega callisin lightimalt maha lihtsalt. Muidu seal rushis on keskmise regi 3bet% kuskil 7-9%, ehk siis kõiksugu suited rämpsu jms tõstetakse pikemalt mõtlemata, ja tavaliselt üle 1 barreli õhuga ei panda OOP.
Aga mis kolmanda käe kohta? Otsutasin lihtsalt shoveda, sest vaevalt ta turnil ülejäänud stacki ka sisse lükkaks õhuga, lootes FE peale.

KJ käes siis ma ise pigem bluff 4betiks sel juhul ja viimases käes - sinule pole ühtegi halba turni sisuliselt, seega maksimaalne +EV on kindlasti call. Kui ta sellise donkamise otsustas juba teha, siis eriti tark ta ju pole ja võib eitea mida veel korraldada eitea millega. Pole ka väga turne mida meie käsi kardab ja fold equityst pole ta ilmselt kuulnudki.

fyte
25.03.11, 14:46
KJ käes siis ma ise pigem bluff 4betiks sel juhul ja viimases käes - sinule pole ühtegi halba turni sisuliselt, seega maksimaalne +EV on kindlasti call. Kui ta sellise donkamise otsustas juba teha, siis eriti tark ta ju pole ja võib eitea mida veel korraldada eitea millega. Pole ka väga turne mida meie käsi kardab ja fold equityst pole ta ilmselt kuulnudki.
Mnja, kui vahel 4bet-blufin, siis teen seda täiesti random kaardiga, mille saab insta-foldida shove peale. KJ tüüpi käed ju mängivad normaalselt laia 3bet rangega villaini vastu ning IP saab tihti ka ilma SD'ta poti maha võtta.
Aga jep, A5s käes oleks vast tõesti pigem pidanud callima, sest kui see misclick tal flopil polnud, siis oleks tõesti reaalne võimalus olnud induce'da teda turnil shovema.

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http:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSBGfSm1x1I&feature=relmfud

fyte
27.03.11, 16:49
No türi küll.. Riveril oligi plaan pisut üle 1/3ps-bet/foldida, aga kui see retarded shove tuli, siis leveldasin end selle fishi vastu ikkagi callima.
Pole eriti skilli taolistes spottides foldida, ilmselt oleks wr märgatavalt kõrgem, kui annaks neile tihedamini respekti ja muckiks.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

BTN: $49.35
SB: $53.20
BB: $50.00
UTG: $43.40
MP: $41.60
Hero (CO): $65.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
1 fold, MP raises to $1, Hero calls $1, BTN calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players)
MP bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, BTN calls $1.50

Turn: ($8.25) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (3 players)
MP bets $1.25, Hero raises to $6.50, BTN folds, MP calls $5.25

River: ($21.25) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $8, MP raises to $32.60 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $24.60

Final Pot: $86.45
MP shows 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (a flush, Jack high)
Hero mucks Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
MP wins $83.45
(Rake: $3.00)

kardaanirist
27.03.11, 16:52
ei mängi sh, aga see shove tundub küll riveris suht standard mitte retarded. mida vastase asemel ise teeksid siis?

fyte
27.03.11, 16:57
ei mängi sh, aga see shove tundub küll riveris suht standard mitte retarded. mida vastase asemel ise teeksid siis?
Loomulikult tema kätt arvestades on standard, aga herol oli turnis endal nuts ja oleks tahtnud siis actionit saada, mitte kui riveril BD flush maha tuleb. :P Retarded selles suhtes, et fish oleks suure tõenäosusega oma 2nd paariga ka kõik kinni maksnud, ilma et tal käe improve'mist vajagi olnud oleks.
Ebamugavasse olukorda pani see shove ühesõnaga.

kardaanirist
27.03.11, 17:00
sellesmõttes küll. sain siis sinust ilmselt valesti aru. sain aru, et sa oleks nagu väitnud, et see on mingi retarded move/ebstandartne betsize vastaselt riveris.

vapsik
27.03.11, 17:26
Elu sees ei foldiks seal. Ma kehv foldija ka, aga IMO fishi range seal laiem kui puhtalt BD kätte saadud mast. Samuti 1/3 liiga väike valuekas sellises kohas. Mingi AJ võiks vast nii mängida. Turnis vist paneks ka tiba suuremalt.

timz0333
27.03.11, 18:30
Riveril kaotad jõhkralt valuet! 17.50 vms totakas summa oleks miinimum mis ma paneks. Turni suurus ok imo.

fyte
31.03.11, 01:12
F off, siuke tunne nagu olekski mingi doomswitch peale pandud, set vs flush, flipid valele poole ja siis kirsiks tordile veel tõmmati 400bb potis runner mast ära. GG.


Obv oleks võinud need viimased 21$ säästa riveri shove peale, sest need nitid ju muuga nuppe ei lükka, kui absolute nutsiga. ffs..

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

CO: $25.10
BTN: $26.71
SB: $64.95
BB: $30.68
Hero (UTG): $60.55
MP: $53.83

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.75, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.10) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.75, Hero raises to $15, MP calls $10.25

River: ($36.10) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $15, MP raises to $36.33 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $21.33

Final Pot: $108.76
Hero mucks 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
MP shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (a flush, Ace high)
MP wins $105.76
(Rake: $3.00)

The_Meer
31.03.11, 11:15
Miks selline liin yldse?

qbj0hn
31.03.11, 13:49
Foldiks riveril kindlalt,sa ei biidi seal midagi.

Sa biidid ainult 33-e seal mis on vähe tõenäoline.

Owner85
31.03.11, 17:41
flopis oleks juba otsa pannud,villeri call on ka huvitav muidugi prf

fyte
31.03.11, 17:53
Miks selline liin yldse?
Nii kuiv flop, et ühegi draw eest kaitsta pole vaja nkn, ja ainus käsi mille vastu stackid sisse saaksime, oleks AQ. Turnil raise'des on villane tunduvalt rohkem investeerinud potti ja kui tal ongi AQ, siis saab ju stackid sisse enivei.


Foldiks riveril kindlalt,sa ei biidi seal midagi.

Sa biidid ainult 33-e seal mis on vähe tõenäoline.
Jah, kirjutasin samas postis ka, et river pmtl sitasti mängitud. Ei ole eriti tõenäoline, et ta BD FD peal oli, seega bettisingi pisut alla poole poti, et saada AK/AQ käest calli.

fyte
31.03.11, 18:07
Märts:


http://www.upload.ee/image/1236875/m2rtsFTP.jpg

Ca 80% kätest on 25nl, ülejäänud 50. Kuu alguses sai ongame's ka paar K kätt mängitud ning sealt tuli koos rb'ga ca 180$. FTP rb oli 135$ ja 1st depo boonusest vabastatud 230$ sai turnade peale magama pandud. Volüümi sai suht tagasihoidlikult (ca 55h kokku), aga vähemalt paremini kui eelmistel kuudel.
Pmtl kokku kuskil 1k$ kuu siis, kuid arvestades volüümi on see ok vast. Samas tean, et oleks saanud palju paremini, kuna paaris suuremas kaotavas sessioonis ei saa kedagi peale iseenda süüdistada (tilt problems).
Koolis nagu suurt midagi ei toimu eriti, aga kohal peab käima ja võtab ikkagi energiat omajagu - koju jõudes pole väsinuna mõtet laudu lahti teha. Sp olengi enamjaolt nl25 mänginud, kuna nl50't lastes tahan teha ikka 100% A-game'i ja see eeldab ju puhanud peaga mängimist ning üleüldse korralikku mindsetti.

fyte
02.04.11, 01:35
Oeh jah, std I guess. Vähemalt jäi sess paar bi plussi sellele vaatamata.
Hand #1
Ongame Network $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1260038 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1260038)
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Hero (BB): $68.29
UTG: $20.50
CO: $23.25
BTN: $49.25
SB: $25.97

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
1 fold, CO raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.50, CO raises to $23.25 all in, Hero calls $16.75

Flop: ($46.75) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($46.75) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($46.75) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $46.75
Hero shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (PAIR ACE)
CO shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (FLUSH ACE)
CO wins $45.25
(Rake: $1.50)

Hand #2
Ongame Network $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1260042 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1260042)
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BTN: $75.12
SB: $50.19
Hero (BB): $49.75
UTG: $26.57
CO: $29.19

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
1 fold, CO raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, CO calls $3

Flop: ($9.25) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, CO raises to $10, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($29.25) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $14.69 all in, Hero calls $14.69

Turn: ($58.63) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($58.63) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $58.63
Hero shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (TWO_PAIR ACE, JACK)
CO shows Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (FULL_HOUSE JACK, EIGHT)
CO wins $57.13
(Rake: $1.50)

Hand #3
Ongame Network $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1260043 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1260043)
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Hero (SB): $71.17
BB: $41.01
UTG: $48.25
CO: $38.92
BTN: $101.02

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, BB raises to $41.01 all in, Hero calls $39.01

Flop: ($82.02) Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($82.02) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($82.02) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $82.02
Hero shows Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (PAIR QUEEN)
BB shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (PAIR ACE)
BB wins $80.52
(Rake: $1.50)

Hand #4
Ongame Network $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1260050 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1260050)
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Hero (SB): $51.38
BB: $19.02
CO: $105.49
BTN: $105.56

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
CO raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises to $20, Hero raises to $46.38 all in, CO calls $26.38

Flop: ($103.26) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($103.26) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($103.26) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $103.26
Hero shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (PAIR KING)
CO shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (FLUSH ACE)
CO wins $101.76
(Rake: $1.50)

The_Meer
02.04.11, 12:54
uurisin just hemist 3 betitud potte.Igakord kui ma saan flopist minraisi ,olen ma beat(tõmbeid väga ei minraisita,on siis kas õhk või nuts)Aga sellise stäkiga venna vastu oleks see fold nõrk jah.

fyte
03.04.11, 01:17
Pfft, enamus ajast sessi vältel võib mindset ju korras olla, aga lõpuks ajab ikka selline sitarahe ketasse küll.

http://www.upload.ee/image/1242370/fuckoff.jpg


Hand #1
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BTN: $8.05
SB: $77.00
BB: $43.45
UTG: $51.30
Hero (MP): $53.40
CO: $53.45

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, 1 fold, BTN raises to $8.05 all in, 2 folds, UTG calls $6.30, Hero raises to $53.40 all in, UTG calls $43.25 all in

Flop: ($111.40) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (3 players - 3 are all in)

Turn: ($111.40) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($111.40) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: $111.40
BTN shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (Ace King high)
UTG shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (a pair of Queens)
UTG wins $84.70
UTG wins $23.70
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #2 - nende nittide vastu kuigi naljalt KK pf sisse ei saa, nii et callivad halvemaga ja lõpuks kui fishi vastu õnnestub saada, siis obv riverdab ära.

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Hero (BB): $50.25
UTG: $51.50
MP: $51.05
CO: $41.25
BTN: $59.45
SB: $35.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
4 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, SB raises to $8.50, Hero raises to $44, SB calls $26.50 all in

Flop: ($70.00) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($70.00) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($70.00) Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $70.00
Hero shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (three of a kind, Kings)
SB shows Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (a straight, Ace high)
SB wins $67.00
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #3
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CO: $44.50
BTN: $14.50
SB: $54.75
BB: $51.35
Hero (UTG): $98.65
MP: $27.10

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
Hero raises to $1.50, MP raises to $4.75, 1 fold, BTN raises to $14.50 all in, 2 folds, Hero raises to $98.65 all in, 1 fold

Flop: ($34.50) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($34.50) 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($34.50) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $34.50
BTN shows Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (a flush, Queen high)
Hero shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (a pair of Nines)
BTN wins $32.80
(Rake: $1.70)

jnejne

inward
03.04.11, 04:55
Päris pahasti hitivad villanid.

oohoh
03.04.11, 11:19
QQ vs KK on paha, aga muud on ju suhteliselt tavaline värk :D?

fyte
03.04.11, 15:52
Ei viitsind kõiki käsi välja otsida lihtsalt, ikka oli veel mingi ~150bb potis turni hititud 3-outer jne.
QQ vs AK käes oli ka suurema stackiga villainil aint 34% equityt, eks ta standard on jap, aga tore oleks kui pmtl kõik suuremad potid ei läheks valele poole. Tahaks siukest mindsetti omada, et siukestele kätele vaatamata ei saaks A-game kannatada. :/

fyte
03.04.11, 23:50
Peaks nendele donkamentidele bloki peale panema kuidagi.. jälle -70$ sai ära põletatud pmst. Igakord pärast mingit rõvedat biiti turna hilises faasis mõtlen, et peaks neist eemale hoidma edaspidi, aga ei võta õppust. :D
Sisuliselt mängi kuitahes hästi, aga lõpuks taandub ikkagi kõik ühele käele, kui mingi donkey crackib nt KK ära ja pot liigub tema poole.
No luckbox, no $$$, i guess.

fyte
04.04.11, 23:58
Mnjah, mõtlesin, et teen pooletunnise sessi enne magaminekut veel, aga järjekordselt imeti semideep stackidega potis riverisse ära.

http://www.upload.ee/image/1247947/ftp58.jpg


Üks fun käsi ka:
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SB: $48.33
Hero (BB): $24.55
UTG: $25.00
MP: $28.42
CO: $25.35
BTN: $99.07

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, BTN calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.10) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.45, BTN raises to $13, Hero raises to $22.55 all in, BTN folds

Final Pot: $30.10
Hero wins $28.60
(Rake: $1.50)

qjet
05.04.11, 06:27
väga jube shove sinu poolt ja veel jubedam fold villainilt.

fyte
05.04.11, 14:11
Ok, qjet, järgmine kord ei arvesta oma reade, vaid küsin hoopis sinult nõu!
Sinu arust on huvitav vaadata ainult ülimalt standartseid jaotusi, kus pole midagi pistmist sellega, kuidas vastane mängib etc?

raunsz
05.04.11, 14:40
väga jube shove sinu poolt ja veel jubedam fold villainilt.

It's called skillpoker!

Wp, fyte.

btw: milline su ajastus oli? Kas shippisid kohe või ootasid natuke?

qjet
05.04.11, 15:04
ma leian selliste liigutuste jaoks parema koha, kui liin, kus villain on pot commited ja sa shoved...lol

inward
05.04.11, 17:28
ma leian selliste liigutuste jaoks parema koha, kui liin, kus villain on pot commited ja sa shoved...lol

Ja sul puudub igasugune ära tõmbamis equity. Selleks peab ikka väga raudkindel read olema. Aga noh seekord tuli välja :D

fyte
06.04.11, 12:56
ma leian selliste liigutuste jaoks parema koha, kui liin, kus villain on pot commited ja sa shoved...lol
Nojah, paraku ei ole vahet, kas ollakse investeerinud 50bb või nt 75bb, sest air folditakse niikuinii 3bet-shove peale.



btw: milline su ajastus oli? Kas shippisid kohe või ootasid natuke?
Mõtlesin ikka veits, mis siis? :P

fyte
11.04.11, 22:56
Teen siis väikse updeidi, aprillis senini 9k kätt rushis mänginud ning paar bi miinuses, run on kehv olnud ja alla EV ka, aga eks jah - ei imesta kui miski 3-4bi on lihtsalt tildi nahka läinud, kui olen mõttetult lightilt maha callinud jne.


Igatahes panen mõningad käed praegusest sessist:

1. Kaalusin riveril veel kerget valueraise'i, kui siukest betti nägin, aga jäin siiski kõhklema - kes krt teab, äkki too reg tegigi sellise beti induce'miseks.
Hand #1
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CO: $51.94
BTN: $6.19
SB: $55.63
Hero (BB): $41.39
UTG: $47.71
MP: $66.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.75, CO calls $2

Flop: ($5.60) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, CO calls $3.50

Turn: ($12.60) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $9.10, Hero calls $9.10

River: ($30.80) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

Final Pot: $41.80
CO shows 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
Hero shows Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero wins $39.71
(Rake: $2.09)


2.
Hand #2
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1273080 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1273080)
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Hero (BTN): $43.19
SB: $29.34
BB: $10.00
UTG: $25.03
MP: $25.00
CO: $26.45

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.85) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
CO bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

River: ($8.35) Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
CO bets $4, Hero raises to $12, CO requests TIME, CO calls $8

Final Pot: $32.35
Hero shows 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (a full house, Threes full of Aces)
CO mucks Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
Hero wins $30.74
(Rake: $1.61)


3. Flopil ehk oleks võinud tsipa rohkem panna, kuid üldiselt sain vast max value kätte.
Hand #3
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MP: $24.92
CO: $37.24
BTN: $19.67
SB: $25.77
Hero (BB): $59.64
UTG: $21.70

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
3 folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.25) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

Turn: ($7.25) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

River: ($14.75) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4

Final Pot: $22.75
SB mucks Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
Hero shows Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (three of a kind, Tens)
Hero wins $21.62
(Rake: $1.13)

4. Nojah, miskipärast jäi paar senti puudu ta täielikust allinist, ja retard ei tulnud ise ka muidugi pf selle peale, et need sisse lükata. Aga jah - mitte et see oleks käekäiku muutnud.
Hand #4
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Hero (SB): $31.71
BB: $14.06
UTG: $25.31
MP: $26.77
CO: $4.13
BTN: $32.11

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $11.75

Flop: ($28.00) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.06 all in

Turn: ($28.12) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($28.12) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $28.12
Hero shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (Ace King high)
BB shows Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (a pair of Kings)
BB wins $26.72
(Rake: $1.40)


5. Kas keegi oleks flopil üle raisinud veel? Imo reg (SB) eriti halvemaga ei calli, parim variant oleks flipata AcQ vastu vm.
Hand #5
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SB: $51.71
BB: $9.30
UTG: $10.26
MP: $38.21
CO: $134.09
Hero (BTN): $55.18

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players)
SB bets $0.75, BB raises to $3.70, Hero calls $3.70, SB folds

Turn: ($10.40) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4.85 all in, Hero calls $4.85

River: ($20.10) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $20.10
BB shows 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (a flush, Queen high)
Hero shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (two pair, Kings and Threes)
BB wins $19.10
(Rake: $1.00)

6. Nii magus, see kuu esimene kord, kui mulle ka lõpuks tuleb mingi taoline 2-outer ära, fag slowrollis ka veel flopil.:biggrin:
Hand #6
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Hero (BB): $38.82
UTG: $25.00
MP: $41.29
CO: $27.84
BTN: $74.28
SB: $20.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
3 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $6.80, 1 fold, SB calls $4.30

Flop: ($14.60) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14.60, SB calls $13.55 all in

Turn: ($41.70) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($41.70) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $41.70
Hero shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (three of a kind, Kings)
SB shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins $39.62
(Rake: $2.08)

View all 6 hands (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1273074-1273086)

The_Meer
12.04.11, 09:28
wtf:D
1käsi.Turn on kindlasti kas bet/c või siis c/r.Riveril ei pane keegi nii õhukeselt sinust parema käega,kas siis 6x või siis mastiga.
3käsi.Limp/c preflop.Callib flopi ja donkab turni ise pool poti on insta märkus,et ta seal raisile maha ei pane.Niiet turni raisin raudselt.Seal on igasuguseid 2 paari combosid või tõmbeid täis.
Ylejäänd käed on minumeelest suht standard.

timz0333
12.04.11, 09:33
Sellise passiivse slowplayega jääb nii mõneski kohas valuet võtmata imo.

fyte
12.04.11, 11:23
wtf:D
1käsi.Turn on kindlasti kas bet/c või siis c/r.Riveril ei pane keegi nii õhukeselt sinust parema käega,kas siis 6x või siis mastiga
100bb'ga on see jah obv check-shove koht turnil, aga ma olin 165bb deep ning villain kattis mind. Turni tuli nii FD kui ka OESD kokku.


3käsi.Limp/c preflop.Callib flopi ja donkab turni ise pool poti on insta märkus,et ta seal raisile maha ei pane.Niiet turni raisin raudselt.Seal on igasuguseid 2 paari combosid või tõmbeid täis.
Ylejäänd käed on minumeelest suht standard.
Olemasolevate stattide põhjal oli ta megapassiivne fish ning open-ender hittis, seega ma arvan, et IP callida on ok.


Sellise passiivse slowplayega jääb nii mõneski kohas valuet võtmata imo.
Eeldan, et pead seda 33 kätt silmas. Pmst board on dry ja too reg oli küllaltki agro barreldaja, kuid samas TPGK'ga stackide peale ei mängita üldiselt - ta ju ei biidi mu valuerange'st midagi. Pealegi niimoodi saab ta ranges ka täielikud bluffid sees hoida.
Saan aru, et oled HU mängija - seal minnakse kahtlemata lightimalt broke', kuid FTP rushis on nittide osakaal märksa suurem..

The_Meer
12.04.11, 12:15
1. käes peaks ikkagi bettima,olenemata sellest et palju asju jõudis kohale.Samas võib see risti talle mingi Ax tõmbe anda.Lisaks sellele on tal setid ka sees.Vb slowtas pre ylepaari,mis iganes.
3.käsi ikkagi ma raisin seda turni 100 prossa.Kui ta rea turnis kokku saab,siis ta paneb poti:D.Turniks on laual iga mastitõmme,iga paar plus reatõmme,ta callib iga T
IMO kaotad sa päris palju valuet mõlemas käes(Ja ma ei räägi seda sellepärast et mõlemas käes sa oleksidki arvatavsti stäkki saand:D)
Olevelat vastasest ma mõnikord seal viimases käes checkin järgi,et anda enesekindlust TT,JJ tüüpi kätele.Pealegi tal nagunii potsize alles.

fyte
12.04.11, 12:42
1. käes peaks ikkagi bettima,olenemata sellest et palju asju jõudis kohale.Samas võib see risti talle mingi Ax tõmbe anda.Lisaks sellele on tal setid ka sees.Vb slowtas pre ylepaari,mis iganes.
3.käsi ikkagi ma raisin seda turni 100 prossa.Kui ta rea turnis kokku saab,siis ta paneb poti:D.Turniks on laual iga mastitõmme,iga paar plus reatõmme,ta callib iga T
IMO kaotad sa päris palju valuet mõlemas käes(Ja ma ei räägi seda sellepärast et mõlemas käes sa oleksidki arvatavsti stäkki saand:D)
Olevelat vastasest ma mõnikord seal viimases käes checkin järgi,et anda enesekindlust TT,JJ tüüpi kätele.Pealegi tal nagunii potsize alles.
Vb prima regid lähevad tõesti lightimalt broke', kuid 90% FTP regularidest ei lähe näiteks QQga nii deepilt bustoks. Turnil barreldades jätkab ta üldiselt palju tugevama range'ga ning võib vabalt foldida nt AJ ilma clubita. Pealegi lisaks sellistele villaini "poolkõvadele" kätele jääb ta range'i sisse ka täielikku õhku, millega ta võib valuetownida ennast.

3ndas käes oleks vb raise tõesti suurema +EVga olnud, aga selliste passiivitaride turni donkbet on vägagi tihti nuts olnud.


// Olles mänginud nii ongames kui ka FTPs samu limiite, siis võin öelda, et mängijate erinevus on vägagi suur. Ilmselt MGs on regid üldiselt märksa loosemad/lähevad lightimalt broke' kui nad on seda FTPs.

fyte
27.04.11, 00:08
http://www.upload.ee/image/1300667/OG2604.jpg

No kurja.. see kuu pole nagu käima saanudki mängu - FTPs kuu alguses jäi ca -300$ ja nüüd ongame's swingib ka. Mänginud olen seal nl30 ca 2/3 ajast, ja ülejäänud nl50, kus on run olnud kehv.

Hand #1
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SB: $48.00
Hero (BB): $50.50
UTG: $48.00
CO: $64.00
BTN: $103.11

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
UTG raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.75, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $4.25

Turn: ($15.25) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10, UTG raises to $40.50 all in, Hero calls $30.50

Turn: ($96.25) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($96.25) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $96.25
Hero shows 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (THREE_OF_A_KIND SIX)
UTG shows Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (FLUSH ACE)
UTG wins $93.25
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #2
Ongame Network $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1290739 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1290739)
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CO: $73.22
BTN: $63.88 - 50/40, 13% 3betiga härra
SB: $117.39
BB: $68.20
Hero (UTG): $47.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $47.75 all in, BTN calls $41.75

Flop: ($96.25) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($96.25) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($96.25) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $96.25
BTN shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (THREE_OF_A_KIND KING)
Hero shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (HIGH_CARD ACE)
BTN wins $93.25
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #3
Ongame Network $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1290740 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1290740)
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BB: $99.36
UTG: $50.00
CO: $11.38
BTN: $27.12
Hero (SB): $52.45

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
1 fold, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, CO calls $2.50, BTN raises to $27.12 all in, Hero calls $24.12, CO calls $8.38 all in

Flop: ($66.12) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($66.12) 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($66.12) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $66.12
CO shows 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (PAIR NINE)
BTN shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (PAIR ACE)
Hero shows Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (PAIR QUEEN)
BTN wins $32.91
BTN wins $30.21
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #4
Ongame Network $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1290741 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1290741)
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SB: $87.70
BB: $71.25
UTG: $61.48
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $52.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
1 fold, CO raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, SB raises to $6, 1 fold, CO calls $4.25, Hero calls $4.25

Flop: ($18.50) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players)
SB bets $9, CO calls $9, Hero raises to $46.30 all in, SB folds, CO calls $35 all in

Flop: ($115.50) 4http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($115.50) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($115.50) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $115.50
CO shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (FLUSH KING)
Hero shows 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (THREE_OF_A_KIND FIVE)
CO wins $112.50
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #5
Ongame Network $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1290742 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1290742)
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SB: $79.25
BB: $48.50
UTG: $32.07
CO: $25.91
Hero (BTN): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, CO calls $2

Flop: ($10.25) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $7, BB folds, UTG folds, CO raises to $23.41 all in, Hero calls $16.41

Flop: ($57.07) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($57.07) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($57.07) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $57.07
CO shows 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (FLUSH JACK)
Hero shows Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (PAIR QUEEN)
CO wins $54.22
(Rake: $2.85)

View all 5 hands (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1290738-1290742)

raunsz
27.04.11, 00:11
Tavaliselt sul non SD hästi kena. Halvad setupid ka jap.

Koolilõpu tõttu volüüm nii väike?

The_Meer
27.04.11, 07:04
kas auto-topupi ple w.

fyte
27.04.11, 13:22
Tavaliselt sul non SD hästi kena. Halvad setupid ka jap.

Koolilõpu tõttu volüüm nii väike?
Nop, nonsd on ikka allapoole suundunud enamjaolt. Eriti palju sellele tähelepanu ei pööra, peaasi et liiga järsult ei läheks lihtsalt.
Volüüm pole tegelt sugugi väike, rushis sai samuti ca 15k käsi lastud.


kas auto-topupi ple w.
Ei.

fyte
01.05.11, 16:50
Aprillikuu siis:

Ongame:http://www.upload.ee/image/1310083/m2rtwr.jpg
+ 120$ rb
FTPs -315$ ja rb oli +130$, seega kokkuvõttes sisuliselt breakeven kuu. Tänu halvale jooksule kaasnes ka tilt, mis vb sõi rohkemgi kasumist ära kui coolerid/suckoudid ise. Enamus käed nl25-30 ja ca kolmandik nl50.
Mais tahan ainult A-mängu teha.

emmimees
01.05.11, 17:28
Mais tahan ainult A-mängu teha.
Tahan kaaaa

fyte
27.05.11, 17:54
Kuu on hetkeseisuga kuskil 400-500$ miinuses ja tundub, et sellel pasal ei tulegi lõppu :/
Panen mõned käed praegusest tunniajasest sessist, polnud mitu päeva mänginud ja mindset oli igati puhanud ja korras, kuid lõpuks ajasid fishide hititud gutshotid ja runner-runner read ikkagi ketasse - no tra, kas ei või need käed vahelduseks vastu pidada??

Hand #1
Ongame Network $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1323347 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1323347)
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Hero (SB): $66.48
BB: $29.55
UTG: $15.47
CO: $31.40
BTN: $58.95

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is SB with Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
1 fold, CO raises to $1.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.90, 1 fold, CO calls $2.70

Flop: ($8.10) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6.50, CO calls $6.50

Turn: ($21.10) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $21.10, CO calls $21 all in

River: ($63.10) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $63.10
Hero shows Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (TWO_PAIR ACE, TEN)
CO shows Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (STRAIGHT ACE)
CO wins $60.10
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #2
Ongame Network $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1323348 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1323348)
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Hero (CO): $35.68
BTN: $27.90
SB: $14.27
BB: $61.78
UTG: $30.45

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is CO with 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.60, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.80) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $3.90, Hero raises to $12, SB raises to $13.52 all in, Hero calls $1.52

Turn: ($28.84) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($28.84) Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $28.84
Hero shows 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 6http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (THREE_OF_A_KIND SIX)
SB shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (STRAIGHT ACE)
SB wins $27.40
(Rake: $1.44)

Hand #3
Ongame Network $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1323349 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1323349)
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CO: $7.13
Hero (BTN): $48.46
SB: $13.80
BB: $30.37
UTG: $15.57

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is BTN with Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif
UTG raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.70, SB raises to $13.80 all in, 2 folds, Hero calls $11.10

Flop: ($28.65) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 5http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($28.65) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($28.65) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $28.65
Hero shows Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (TWO_PAIR JACK, TWO)
SB shows Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (FULL_HOUSE TEN, TWO)
SB wins $27.22
(Rake: $1.43)

Hand #4
Ongame Network $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1323350 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1323350)
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Hero (UTG): $35.59
CO: $10.50
BTN: $13.25
SB: $31.25
BB: $16.61

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is UTG with Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
Hero raises to $0.90, CO raises to $3.15, 3 folds, Hero raises to $9.90, CO raises to $10.50 all in, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($21.45) 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($21.45) 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($21.45) 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $21.45
Hero shows Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (PAIR KING)
CO shows Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (THREE_OF_A_KIND TEN)
CO wins $20.38
(Rake: $1.07)

ja flippe pole mõtet siia eriti toppima hakatagi :/

raunsz
27.05.11, 18:20
Mul sarnane seis (run ja profit), varsti läheb üle ehk. 2. käsi eriti brutal. :

GL

atu1337
27.05.11, 18:28
Aiai. Loodan et pead vastu ikka. Jõudu ja jaksu :)

muruntau
27.05.11, 20:01
Küll valja grindite sellest. Ise sain ka igasse auku see kuu ja vahepeal olin tipust juba 30 BI all, aga viimase ~50 SNG'ga olen 25 BI üles saanud, hakkab minema taas. Obv õppimine ka liiga just ei tee, üritan seda 1-2h päevas teha.

Edu!

bounce
27.05.11, 20:39
ongame pole ka minu vastu see kuu hea olnud, keep your spirit up!

Tigrano
28.05.11, 07:44
Tööd tuleb teha, küll need soovitud tulemused ka lõpuks tulevad. Sul on volüüm ka tihti väike ja mängid suht palju laudu korraga, samuti ei ole sa ju nl50 pikalt mänginud, et kohe kõik peaks sujuma nagu soovid. Nüüd kui väike swing ka veel on, siis sellises tulemuses ei ole midagi ülemõistuse 5maxis veel eriti. Samuti vist olid tubade vahel ringi rännanud, see ei ole ka kohati hea, sest vahepeal rushi mängides vaja jälle kohaneda jne, parem keskendu ühes toas mängimisele on kindlasti tõusam.

fyte
28.05.11, 22:56
Tänud!

Igatahes jah, kuna FTPs ühe boonuse jupi vabastamisest pole kuigi palju puudu ja mingi 100$ kanti seal vedeles, siis sai pisut rushi pelatud.
Sessi algus polnud just meeldivaim, kui järjekordne 90-10 olukord riverisse ära imeti, kuid lõpuks sai ikkagi plussi jäädud:

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

SB: $27.18
BB: $25.32
Hero (UTG): $24.75
MP: $30.10
CO: $19.14
BTN: $25.48

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.85) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($2.85) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, CO raises to $5, Hero raises to $18, CO calls $12.89 all in

River: ($38.63) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $38.63
Hero shows 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (a straight, Jack high)
CO shows Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (a full house, Jacks full of Tens)
CO wins $36.70
(Rake: $1.93)




Ja siis tuli siuke kentsakas käsi veel. Igatahes kes ütleb õigesti ära, mis herol ja villainil siin jaotuses käes oli, sellele võin FTPsse 10$ shippida. Et asi lihtsam oleks, siis igal osalejal on võimalik pakkuda 2 vastusevarianti (ühes postituses). Aega on praegusest kuni homme kella 12ni.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

BTN: $14.25
SB: $17.16
BB: $41.96
Hero (UTG): $57.84
MP: $25.74
CO: $20.34

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with XX
Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($5.25) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4

River: ($17.25) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $8.66 all in, Hero calls $8.66

mikk2468
28.05.11, 23:04
Hero 1)KdTd 2)22
SB 1)K7o 2)77
10 daalast suva, lihtsalt tahan arvata.

raunsz
28.05.11, 23:04
1.hero K:diamond: K:heart:
anti-hero T:diamond:2:diamond:

2.hero Q:club: Q:heart:
anti-hero J:diamond:T:diamond:

con
28.05.11, 23:09
hero KQ, vil KTd

hero 22, vil KTd

petteri
28.05.11, 23:11
1. Hero: Kd Qs SB: Ad 2d
2. Hero: Ad Kc SB: 2d 7s

kardaanirist
28.05.11, 23:11
Hero: Q:heart:Q:club: / K:diamond: K:club:
Villain: J:diamond: T:diamond: / J:spade: T:spade:

Codecci
28.05.11, 23:11
Hero AKo, KK
SB TJo, KJdd

Vandalar
28.05.11, 23:36
Hero AdJd, QQ
Villain Kd2d, Ts9s
Villaini käsi pakkusin vist liiga tugevaid aga midagi pidi pakkuma.

KristjanLaas
28.05.11, 23:43
Tänud!

Igatahes jah, kuna FTPs ühe boonuse jupi vabastamisest pole kuigi palju puudu ja mingi 100$ kanti seal vedeles, siis sai pisut rushi pelatud.
Sessi algus polnud just meeldivaim, kui järjekordne 90-10 olukord riverisse ära imeti, kuid lõpuks sai ikkagi plussi jäädud:

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

SB: $27.18
BB: $25.32
Hero (UTG): $24.75
MP: $30.10
CO: $19.14
BTN: $25.48

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.85) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($2.85) Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, CO raises to $5, Hero raises to $18, CO calls $12.89 all in

River: ($38.63) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $38.63
Hero shows 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif 8http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (a straight, Jack high)
CO shows Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (a full house, Jacks full of Tens)
CO wins $36.70
(Rake: $1.93)




Ja siis tuli siuke kentsakas käsi veel. Igatahes kes ütleb õigesti ära, mis herol ja villainil siin jaotuses käes oli, sellele võin FTPsse 10$ shippida. Et asi lihtsam oleks, siis igal osalejal on võimalik pakkuda 2 vastusevarianti (ühes postituses). Aega on praegusest kuni homme kella 12ni.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

BTN: $14.25
SB: $17.16
BB: $41.96
Hero (UTG): $57.84
MP: $25.74
CO: $20.34

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with XX
Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($5.25) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4

River: ($17.25) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $8.66 all in, Hero calls $8.66


1. Hero AdJd, Villain 9s7s
2. Hero Qs9s, Villain Td8d

con
28.05.11, 23:52
1. Hero AdJd, Villain 9s7s
2. Hero Qs9s, Villain Td8d

Hea teksti analüüs, alles nüüd märkasin:)

fyte
28.05.11, 23:57
Kui offsuit on, siis piisab lihtsalt sellest kui 'o' on lõpus, nagu tavaliselt ;D

I R Baboooon
29.05.11, 01:18
1)Hero AA, villain 27o
2)Hero AA, villain 97o

Madis_89
29.05.11, 08:38
Herol AA , villain KJd
Herol 22, villain q9s

pastilaa
29.05.11, 09:30
1. Hero: J:diamond: T:diamond: Villain: A:diamond: K:diamond:
2. Hero: J:diamond: T:diamond: Villain: any2

jaagup17
29.05.11, 09:31
1) hero TJo, villain K2d
2) hero AJd , villain Q9s

fyte
29.05.11, 12:19
Mnja, Pastilaa ja Jaagup said kõige lähemale, kuid villu käsi oli siiski siuke:


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

BTN: $14.25
SB: $17.16
BB: $41.96
Hero (UTG): $57.84
MP: $25.74
CO: $20.34

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif
Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif Khttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($5.25) 9http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4

River: ($17.25) 7http://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $8.66 all in, Hero calls $8.66

Final Pot: $34.57
SB shows Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (a pair of Queens)
Hero shows Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (a straight, King high)
Hero wins $32.85
(Rake: $1.72)

qbj0hn
29.05.11, 14:54
Vastane mängis käe nii halvasti kui võimalik pmst .
Positsioon on üks tore asi :)

fyte
31.05.11, 23:04
http://www.upload.ee/image/1382922/mai11.jpg
donkamendid -150$, rb + natuke boonust +230$, ehk siis kuu kokku -380$

Mõttetu kuu täis spewimist, kuid run oli ka alla igasuguste arvestuste, setuppide näol siis, mis põhilised leidsid aset nl50s, kuigi enamus käed olid nl30 pmtl. Volüüm oli ka kesine, vb ei saanud asja kuidagi käima sellepärast, et eksamiperiood on - iseenesest küll kuigi palju õppimisele ka aega pole kulutanud, kuid eks alateadlikult ikka mõjutab mindsetti pisut. Esimene miinuskuu :/. Aga jah, eks juunis saab grindiga veits tõsisemalt tegeletud.
BRM nit nagu ma olen, siis no big deal.

fyte
08.06.11, 01:30
Kuna pmtl aasta tagasi alustasin mängimist (täpselt 1a tagasi tegin päeviku), siis mõtlesin panna senise lifetimegraphi siia bb'des.

http://www.upload.ee/image/1400594/lifetime0806.jpg

low-flow
08.06.11, 02:10
Super solid! (Y)
Swinge nagu üldse ei tunnistaks. :P

Pahvak
08.06.11, 10:56
Super solid! (Y)
Swinge nagu üldse ei tunnistaks. :P

+1, kuigi omajagu peavalu on ilmselt 350k käe jooksul ikka olnud - see kolme joone graafik näeb lihtsalt ilusam välja. Muidu wp & roni limiitidest edasi! :)

Veidi ebameeldivatel teemadel...
Kui palju sa kaotanud oled?

fyte
08.06.11, 13:18
Hehe, jep, Pahvakul selles suhtes õigus, et swingid paistavad väiksemana välja graphil, kui SD ja nonSD jooned ka peal.

fyte
09.06.11, 17:14
1. SB 20/15 reg, raise cb 33% (12), 375 kätt. BB oli random 60vpip fish. Kas villaini puhul on sample liiga väike, et talle vastu mängida?

Ongame Network $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players -

CO: $33.74
BTN: $31.23
SB: $29.70
BB: $10.11
Hero (UTG): $34.86

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is UTG with 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.60, BB calls $0.45

Flop: ($2.25) Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif 3http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.05, SB raises to $3.90, BB folds, Hero raises to $8.50

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2. Villain tundmatu, 25/20 ja ~50 kätt. Standard vist? Plaan oli normaalse suurusega bet callida kõigil riveritel peale J.
Ongame Network $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 1336478 (http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1336478)
DeucesCracked Poker Videos (http://www.deucescracked.com/?referrer=converter_phpbb) Hand History Converter (http://www.handconverter.com)

CO: $30.99
BTN: $36.56
SB: $3.03
Hero (BB): $30.00

Pre Flop: ($0.45) Hero is BB with Qhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif
CO raises to $0.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) Ahttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/club.gif 2http://static.deucescracked.com/images/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95

Turn: ($5.85) Thttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($11.85) Jhttp://static.deucescracked.com/images/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $6, Hero folds

Pahvak
10.06.11, 12:33
1. Siin võid c-r stati ka vaadata, aga riidid oleksid head. Erinevalt 633ss boardist, saab ta siin reppida Qx käsi. Üldiselt annaksin respecti.
2. Üsna ok, kuigi riveri kohta ei oska öelda. Kui see 25/20 võiks sinu arust olla regular, siis sa ilmselt tead mida ja kas regularid barreldavad riveril. Ilmselt kehvemat A-d mitte?